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SofaMan
17th October 2008, 08:14 AM
Scary stuff, just in time for Halloween. This would place us in the company of those bastions of freedom China and Syria.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1399635276

Write to your federal MP.

Hereticpoo
17th October 2008, 12:24 PM
Wow that is very scary. The internet is the last bastion of the raving lunatic, and liberal media. You can say anything you like without someone censoring you according to thier political/corporate agenda.

Whats the bet that they'll put some sort of spy software on this filter system? It will be for our own safety no doubt. To stop bad men from doing naughty things in the names of thier gods. IE the excuse we'll use to control you even more.

It was bound to happen, almost every phone call you make is logged and filtered.

Its not fair, I just want to look at 'mens' sites and file 'share' without worrying about the police popping many caps in my oversized rump. :)

i_amtrunks
17th October 2008, 01:02 PM
I wonder how on earth the government think this will pass muster...

And how will all those politicians deal when they can't access all that illegal stuff on their tax payer funded Laptops and PC's?

jaydisc
17th October 2008, 02:32 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's technically impossible and it's going to be an expensive embarrassing mess.

Saintly
17th October 2008, 04:23 PM
it's not technically impossible... like what Sofaman said.. look at China.

have you tried to carry a cisco router into china recently? it's virtually impossible to get it into the country with all those encryptions

EDIT: I know the 2nd sentence doesn't relates to filtered internet. But if China can implement something like this on that scale, there's no stopping our Government.

By that point, aussies might as well be ruled like a communist country.

MV75
17th October 2008, 04:39 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's technically impossible and it's going to be an expensive embarrassing mess.

No it's not, it's very possible and that's what sucks, well, the thing that will suck will be dialup speeds on adsl2+ and being taxed for it.

Rampage
17th October 2008, 05:49 PM
children shouldnt be on the net unsupervised anyways:(

would using a proxy from another country (US,UK etc) defeat the filterings if it gets put in place?

llamatron
17th October 2008, 09:07 PM
If this inane plan goes ahead and is actually implemented I will start making plans to permanently leave this country as quickly as possible.

dirge
17th October 2008, 09:19 PM
This won't actually get up. Bob Carr suggested something similar in the 1990s and it just never happened. Sure, it's technically possible, but it'll be pointless. So they block a site on [say] how to build your own atomic bomb. The thing would just get mirrored. ASCII text is replaced by a GIF of the same text, so the 3 guys scouring the net for "bad" content will take months if not years to find it.

This is as much pie in the sky as the RIAA's attempts at stopping illegal downloading. Site will move and content will get around the system. And the idiots dumb enough to handle Plutonium in their backyard shed will develop acute radiation poisioning either way :D

Soundwarp
17th October 2008, 09:54 PM
Man too much reading for me so i don't get it :(

Pulse
17th October 2008, 10:03 PM
Didn't the Fed Gov try to get an "adult content filter" for kids up & running last year or the year before?

Didn't some teenager crack it almost immediately?

jacksplatt11
17th October 2008, 10:08 PM
Didn't the Fed Gov try to get an "adult content filter" for kids up & running last year or the year before?

Didn't some teenager crack it almost immediately?

Haha yeah I remember something like that, pretty much as soon as it was out it was cracked...

Seriously though, it's a pretty stupid idea

MV75
17th October 2008, 10:22 PM
This won't actually get up. Bob Carr suggested something similar in the 1990s and it just never happened. Sure, it's technically possible, but it'll be pointless. So they block a site on [say] how to build your own atomic bomb. The thing would just get mirrored. ASCII text is replaced by a GIF of the same text, so the 3 guys scouring the net for "bad" content will take months if not years to find it.

This is as much pie in the sky as the RIAA's attempts at stopping illegal downloading. Site will move and content will get around the system. And the idiots dumb enough to handle Plutonium in their backyard shed will develop acute radiation poisioning either way :D

It still might get up and going though as the idiocity of our polititions knows no bounds. :)

But I'd fully expect full and brutal retaliation from corporations and business when it ends up totally stuffing up their network speeds and abilities to offer customers reliable web interfacing to their stores.

jaydisc
17th October 2008, 10:43 PM
This won't actually get up. Bob Carr suggested something similar in the 1990s and it just never happened. Sure, it's technically possible, but it'll be pointless. So they block a site on [say] how to build your own atomic bomb. The thing would just get mirrored. ASCII text is replaced by a GIF of the same text, so the 3 guys scouring the net for "bad" content will take months if not years to find it.

This is as much pie in the sky as the RIAA's attempts at stopping illegal downloading. Site will move and content will get around the system. And the idiots dumb enough to handle Plutonium in their backyard shed will develop acute radiation poisioning either way :D

Agreed.

This stuff never stops the actual people that want to access the naughty stuff. The best they can implement is either HTTP proxies or some variety of unencrypted packet sniffing. This won't affect encrypted torrents, SSH tunnels, something like TOR (http://www.torproject.org/), or anything else that's encrypted.

kurdt_the_goat
17th October 2008, 11:51 PM
When i see crap like this, i'm reminded of the Jurassic Park quote: "life uh... finds a way". No matter what they do, there's always going to be more people, who are more dedicated, who can and will undo it. And it only ever takes one to figure it out, then anyone can do it.

dirge
18th October 2008, 12:01 AM
It still might get up and going though as the idiocity of our polititions knows no bounds. :)


I should clarify. I meant the idea won't actually get up in a practical sense. They may try and implement it, but it wont ultimately succeed.

jaydisc
18th October 2008, 10:06 AM
I should clarify. I meant the idea won't actually get up in a practical sense. They may try and implement it, but it wont ultimately succeed.

My sentiment exactly.

Lint
18th October 2008, 11:32 AM
Urgh, I gigantic websense would be annoying