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FatalityPitt
29th June 2017, 11:34 PM
Link: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-wingspan-and-cloudraker-revealed-as-a-2pack/38728/

My thoughts:
- I would have been happier if these were regular single-carded releases, but it's still better than having to fork out for a big expensive box-set containing a leader, a voyager and a deluxe that I may not want.
- I hope this isn't a store/con exclusive and it's easy enough to obtain.

Omega Metro
30th June 2017, 12:10 AM
Please let this be easy to obtain!:(

FatalityPitt
30th June 2017, 12:27 AM
More pics from Planet Iacon FB (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/) page:

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19601225_1428295073903095_1670966930815500086_n.jp g?oh=923176e199a238b17826d52a5115235b&oe=59C31AD4

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19437480_1428294767236459_2327920128866024713_n.jp g?oh=3b03608dc523c2559d60fa30e82869f9&oe=59C7CD17

FatalityPitt
30th June 2017, 12:31 AM
Please let this be easy to obtain!:(

I hope the clones get re-packed and sold as regular releases one day. The first Transformers I got as a child were the Decepticon clones. Right now, it looks like the only way I can get them is via box-sets. :(

DarkHyren
30th June 2017, 12:36 AM
Good news that, I just hope there is more good news in the form of Fastlane and Pounce being in another 2-pack, because I still havent been able to find the 2 box sets for a good price :/

Ploughmans Lunch
30th June 2017, 01:46 AM
Fingers crossed this encourages a reissue (or whatever) of the Velocitron set :/

DELTAprime
30th June 2017, 07:22 AM
Since we now know moulds exist for all the Twins hopefully we get a Legends release of them so I don't have to buy two box sets plus this two pack.

bowspearer
30th June 2017, 10:17 AM
Not a fan of wingspan - it would have worked better had the legs formed the side of the bird torso rather than the wings and the wings had been 2 separate pieces, as per the G1 version.

Initial_G
30th June 2017, 10:29 AM
Cool news! Glad they decided to do this and not place them into the next 2 exclusive sets.

I am surprised it's a 2 pack, that was something I thought TT would do with their versions.

UltraMarginal
30th June 2017, 10:47 AM
With one half of each pair only being available in the large Box sets that I don't have enough interest in to warrant purchasing I'm going to be holding my breath for a Takara release.

llamatron
30th June 2017, 11:36 AM
Don't let me down, takara. Hoping for separate autobot / decepticon sets.

Initial_G
5th July 2017, 03:32 PM
RK has this up for pre-order here (http://www.robotkingdom.com/c2030h060.html) US$ 23.90 ... and need to factor in shipping still ... which will about double that @.@

reillyd
5th July 2017, 05:23 PM
RK has this up for pre-order here (http://www.robotkingdom.com/c2030h060.html) US$ 23.90 ... and need to factor in shipping still ... which will about double that @.@

Well that's fast, start shipping next month

1AZRAEL1
5th July 2017, 07:01 PM
Takara will release them as 2 packs eventually

Zippo
5th July 2017, 07:09 PM
Takara will release them as 2 packs eventually

I hope this is true
I've been buying Hasbro TR toys "just in case" but don't like spending extra money when not needed

Sinnertwin
5th July 2017, 07:12 PM
4 pack would've been ideal

1AZRAEL1
5th July 2017, 07:38 PM
4 pack would've been ideal

This lol. It'll only be a matter of time I reckon. They've done there own of everything else so far. Gets more out of the molds too

DarkHyren
6th July 2017, 08:47 AM
Since it hasnt been mentioned, there seems that there are two 2 packs coming out.
One has Cloudraker and Wingspan and is a Walgreens exclusive (source) (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-clone-twopack-image-revealed-as-walgreens-exclusive/38811/)
The other has Pounce and Fastlane (from the Chaos/Siege box sets) and is an Amazon exclusive (source) (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-fastlane-and-pounce-to-be-released-as-amazon-twopack/38812/)

For transparency the second article does say that the product code RK was using for the "Amazon pack" is the same as the code for the "Walgreens pack" so it isnt conclusive evidence that Pounce/Fastlane are being released separately, but it would make sense that they are being

griffin
6th July 2017, 10:10 AM
Since it hasnt been mentioned, there seems that there are two 2 packs coming out.
One has Cloudraker and Wingspan and is a Walgreens exclusive (source) (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-clone-twopack-image-revealed-as-walgreens-exclusive/38811/)
The other has Pounce and Fastlane (from the Chaos/Siege box sets) and is an Amazon exclusive (source) (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-fastlane-and-pounce-to-be-released-as-amazon-twopack/38812/)

For transparency the second article does say that the product code RK was using for the "Amazon pack" is the same as the code for the "Walgreens pack" so it isnt conclusive evidence that Pounce/Fastlane are being released separately, but it would make sense that they are being

Yep, the Seibertron news article has been edited to note that it may just be an error on the part of Robotkingdom as the product numbers are the same (and that is very unlikely, as the need to be unique for different products)... but to be honest, I don't see why there wouldn't be a second 2-pack eventually (and you just know that TakaraTomy will release all four as well), for those people not wanting to shell out for the box sets just for the two new moulds.

griffin
6th July 2017, 10:18 AM
Seeing the photos of Cloudraker, it now makes sense why Fastlane's groin splits apart, as the core and legs are shared parts, and Fastlane doesn't have the groin separate when transforming to car mode... Cloudraker does, to form the wings in jet mode.
And having a second look at Pounce and Wingspan, they have the same parts, with the separating legs/groin being redundant in Pounce.

Omega Metro
6th July 2017, 10:32 AM
It's a bit confusing as I wanted to preorder that RK 2 pack but the descriptions too vague and has pics of both sets so I don't know which 2 pack it's for. I only wanted the Wingspan/Cloudraker set. Sold out now anyway so hope everyone gets the set they actually wanted.

Sinnertwin
6th July 2017, 10:34 AM
This lol. It'll only be a matter of time I reckon. They've done there own of everything else so far. Gets more out of the molds too

Yep. Just going to kick back, relax & bang down my pre-order once the 4 pack or 2 x 2 packs from TT are announced. CBF chasing down scraps from across multiple sets.

Ploughmans Lunch
6th July 2017, 10:42 AM
I dunno what it is, but the bullshit around getting clones is really kinda putting me off collecting. Should've just been two sets and have done with it (or make them a bit smaller and do them as Legends sized and then regular retail blahblahblah).

Initial_G
6th July 2017, 10:43 AM
yeh very confusing, I sent an email to RK to clarify as well (want to place an order) ... but I also just saw that the Wingspan/Cloudraker 2 pack has been found in the US as a Walgreens exclusive

ref: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/titans-return-clone-twopack-image-revealed-as-walgreens-exclusive/38811/

Omega Metro
6th July 2017, 11:01 AM
I dunno what it is, but the bullshit around getting clones is really kinda putting me off collecting. Should've just been two sets and have done with it (or make them a bit smaller and do them as Legends sized and then regular retail blahblahblah).

Yep. I find it quite stressful at times trying to secure a TF I like. Sometimes I wonder wether it's worth the bother. :confused:

Ploughmans Lunch
6th July 2017, 11:05 AM
Yep. I find it quite stressful at times trying to secure a TF I like. Sometimes I wonder wether it's worth the bother. :confused:

I mean I guess the best thing to do is to wait for TakaraTomy to do a thing but there's no guarantee I guess. Bit of a shit really.

Initial_G
6th July 2017, 11:06 AM
adding to the confusion lol:

UPDATE: Walgreens Exclusive Cloudraker And Wingspan 2-Pack Up For Preorder At RobotKingdom
http://tformers.com/another-clones-2-pack-amazon-exclusive-fastlane-pounce-2-pack-up-for-preorder-at-robotkingdom/31990/news.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

FatalityPitt
6th July 2017, 12:01 PM
I see you guys have read the news about Pounce & Fastlane being Amazon exclusives, and Wingspan & Cloudraker as Walgreens exclusives.

Man! There was a time when I said to myself 'I'd give anything to have updated versions of Pounce & Wingspan'... but now I feel like giving up on them and just be content with what's available to me. I could probably get these off eBay in the future, but they'll likely be sold at hyper-inflated scalper prices, and it's just not worth it. I was gonna get a TR Brainstorm off eBay, but AUD70 (cheapest I can find) is not a price for a deluxe figure.

I hope Hasbro someday realises that US store exclusives won't help them earn extra coin, but instead give scalpers in the US an opportunity to rip-off other collectors who want these figures but have no access.

1AZRAEL1
6th July 2017, 03:51 PM
This is the reason why I get annoyed. When they make it exclusives in America, we get shafted. And the exclusives they give us, no one wants (the overpriced Prime and Megatron reprint 2 pack Myer tried to flog) In recent years, we get the short end of the stick

Sinnertwin
6th July 2017, 08:43 PM
$40 US at TFSource if you're that keen :rolleyes:
https://tfsource.com/titans-return/wingspan-cloudraker/

DarkHyren
7th July 2017, 06:23 AM
When Walgreens put them up on their website I'll probably just work out how much it will be to forward a few to Aus, the TR Brainstorm ended up being cheaper this way then most online stores were selling him for so I expect it will be the same with this one.
I could probably get these off eBay in the future, but they'll likely be sold at hyper-inflated scalper prices, and it's just not worth it. I was gonna get a TR Brainstorm off eBay, but AUD70 (cheapest I can find) is not a price for a deluxe figure.

I hope Hasbro someday realises that US store exclusives won't help them earn extra coin, but instead give scalpers in the US an opportunity to rip-off other collectors who want these figures but have no access.I know what you mean, I was in the same boat which is why I did as I mentioned above, was able to get two Brainstorms for the price one would have cost from a scalper. Granted I still think $40 each is too much for a deluxe but it's better then $70+

As for Hasbro, I honestly think they dont care so long as they make money. It's not so much that exclusives make Hasbro more money but that contracts with US stores that want exclusives end up making them more money. Aus stores just dont care enough to make those sorts of deals, though they are happy enough to get given as regular stock any exclusives that are spare and charge us 2-3 times more then they're worth (for example see the TRU exclusive TLK figures)

Ploughmans Lunch
7th July 2017, 12:04 PM
littletoycompany said they're looking into it so idk hey

Omega Metro
8th July 2017, 10:39 PM
I just bought mine from EBay. Toy story world. $55au shipped with 10% off voucher. Got sick of waiting for a new RK preorder (its been sold out for days now) or a BBTS preorder. I think it works out cheaper than RK anyway:)

griffin
12th August 2017, 10:03 PM
This Walgreens exclusive in America (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/08/02/titans-return-cloudraker-wingspan-release-price-details-revealed-346187) will be US$18 (before tax), and should be released some time this month.

FatalityPitt
13th August 2017, 04:14 PM
Bought the set on eBay for $38. Good deal, works out to be $19 per figure; which is cheaper than a normal legends.

Get it before it's gone! - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hasbro-Transformers-Titans-Return-Walgreens-Set-Wingspan-Cloudraker-Fast-Ship-/232350868211?hash=item361930e2f3:g:mCYAAOSwo4tZj8A n

shockNwave
13th August 2017, 08:37 PM
BBTS has a reliable reputation. So I'll wait for these guys.

Ploughmans Lunch
14th August 2017, 11:05 AM
Bought the set on eBay for $38. Good deal, works out to be $19 per figure; which is cheaper than a normal legends.

Get it before it's gone! - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hasbro-Transformers-Titans-Return-Walgreens-Set-Wingspan-Cloudraker-Fast-Ship-/232350868211?hash=item361930e2f3:g:mCYAAOSwo4tZj8A n

Thanks! Ordered one for a friend, hopefully turns out alright.

Sinnertwin
14th August 2017, 09:51 PM
Thanks! Ordered one for a friend, hopefully turns out alright.

Lets hope it does.
They've had more than 30 units. Some exclusive :rolleyes: