Massdrop - would it work for Transformers

[Sunsurge]

So I've just come across and joined up to the Massdrop website (https://www.massdrop.com/my-communities). For those who don't know, it's a way for members from certain hobbies(i.e. audiophiles) to approach a relevant manufacturer (e.g. Sennheiser) to produce an off-label version of an official product (e.g. HD650 headphones) at a MUCH reduced price. Some of these products may still even come with an official warranty from the manufacturer.

I've been thinking about our wonderful community and wether we could get Massdrop to benefit us as Transformers collectors.

My questions are:

1. Has anybody approached Takara, Hasbro or Hasbro Asia etc with the idea of doing a Transformers-related drop before?

2. Does anybody know if those official companies open to working with Massdrop?

3. How many fellow OTCA members would be interested in joining Massdrop to get a drop going?

[DarkHyren]

I'm not sure how this would work with collectibles honestly, it's easier with things that get used daily like headphones or TVs as with those one doesnt really care about details too much so long as it works.
However when we're talking about things like MPs for example this could be considered the same as factory seconds or high end KOs, at least in my mind.
My two cents anyway

[Borgeman]

Yeah I agree that massdrop and collectibles wont be compatible together.
I've bought from massdrop a few times, it works because they sell functional items for (semi)daily usage without always necessarily having the paint and polish of a retail item. But with collectibles you WANT that polish, so it kinda defeats the purpose.

The only possible thing with this that could work is creating a cut down recolour of an existing mold, for use as an OTCA exclusive for example. But even then HasTak might have too high a minimum quantity.

[GoktimusPrime]

The only possible thing with this that could work is creating a cut down recolour of an existing mold, for use as an OTCA exclusive for example. But even then HasTak might have too high a minimum quantity.
1000 units is the minimum

[Sunsurge]

I'm not sure how this would work with collectibles honestly, it's easier with things that get used daily like headphones or TVs as with those one doesnt really care about details too much so long as it works.
However when we're talking about things like MPs for example this could be considered the same as factory seconds or high end KOs, at least in my mind.
My two cents anyway



Yeah I agree that massdrop and collectibles wont be compatible together.
I've bought from massdrop a few times, it works because they sell functional items for (semi)daily usage without always necessarily having the paint and polish of a retail item. But with collectibles you WANT that polish, so it kinda defeats the purpose.

The only possible thing with this that could work is creating a cut down recolour of an existing mold, for use as an OTCA exclusive for example. But even then HasTak might have too high a minimum quantity.

Thanks for the input, guys. I can see where you're coming from.

I am a little intrigued by your suggestion of an OCTA exclusive, though. What about MP-36 or MP-10 in an OCTA exclusive colour scheme? Or perhaps XTB's upcoming Monolith? Fans Toys' Terminus Giganticus? Lots of possibilities...

[Borgeman]

Thanks for the input, guys. I can see where you're coming from.

I am a little intrigued by your suggestion of an OCTA exclusive, though. What about MP-36 or MP-10 in an OCTA exclusive colour scheme? Or perhaps XTB's upcoming Monolith?

I mentioned that as probably the only angle that could be broached (ie a regional exclusive). And I can't see it working with 3rd party toys, given likely trademark/copyright risks that massdrop would not want to delve into.

Also remember that unlike things like headphones and keyboards, where individual components like cables and keycaps have been produced billions of times over and have a long lifespan, the production cost of a transformer probably wont have much leeway given the comparatively limited lifespan of many molds. and with 1000 units minimum required (as per Gok's post) that would probably be the largest hurdle of them all. Considering how much larger the audiophile and tech communities are than TFs, few drops actually breach the 1000 sale counter. And in reality, in most drops you aren't saving all that much, rather you're obtaining a new/custom/product.

You suggest a custom MP-10 (MP-36 wouldnt work in Aus, guns are bad remember :rolleyes:), lets brainstorm: an Aussie themed massdrop release, so the figure would almost certainly come with no accessories other than say his gun and maybe a matrix. Minimal paint, no chrome. No trailer. No manuals or bio card, no unique mp box (I was gonna say no mp box at all, just a plain packaged box, but I can't see Takara agreeing to that, so perhaps they reuse the MP-10b sized box).

Would you find 1000 people willing to spend ~$180USD on that? Can't say I do. I think you'd have better luck convincing Takara to do a plain old limited release (like MP-10 EVA) without any corner cutting, and possibly use massdrop as the reputable platform with which to obtain the pre-orders (as you have to pay for the item in advance). That way, if its a bona-fide MP release, the worlds MP collectors/completionists would more likely jump on the wagon as well.

[Sunsurge]

You suggest a custom MP-10 (MP-36 wouldnt work in Aus, guns are bad remember :rolleyes:), lets brainstorm: an Aussie themed massdrop release, so the figure would almost certainly come with no accessories other than say his gun and maybe a matrix. Minimal paint, no chrome. No trailer. No manuals or bio card, no unique mp box (I was gonna say no mp box at all, just a plain packaged box, but I can't see Takara agreeing to that, so perhaps they reuse the MP-10b sized box).



I like it! MP-10 in green & gold colours with something Aussie-related like a cricket bat for smashing those Decptipunks :)

I'm gonna see if I can run with this...

[GoktimusPrime]

As I said before, it would require a minimum order of 1000 units.
I asked Hasbro about this when I was organising the Sabretron convention and this was the min. number that I was told. Needless to say that I didn't go with this option, which is why instead we bought a case of Keychain Reissue G1 Mini-Cars (Autobot Chainmasters) and they were hand-repainted. Also, these toys were given away for FREE to convention attendees (and other OzFormer members at subsequent fan meets etc.) since they were unlicensed repaints. BotCon organisers also initially didn't acquire the rights for toys like Tap-Out and Rook, so those toys were also initially given away as free souvenirs to pre-registrants.

I like it! MP-10 in green & gold colours with something Aussie-related like a cricket bat for smashing those Decptipunks :)

We did this with the Autobot Chainmasters.

* SPECTRE (repainted Bumblebee = green and gold
* BREAKER (repainted Cliffjumper) = white, blue & red (AU flag colours)
* MINESWEEPER (repainted Windcharger) = black, yellow & red (Aboriginal flag colours)
* MUCKRAKER (repainted Brawn) = beige & brown (Outback's colours in reverse)

And their background story and personas were all Australian themed.

[Sunsurge]

Thanks Gok, for chiming in with your previous experience and knowledge. I don't quite understand why 1000 units is considered a killer. A firm challenge perhaps, but not a killer.

Anyway I just did a bit more digging and I found a couple of Gundam drops. So that still leaves me with a little bit of hope that something TF-related should be possible:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gundam-msr-04-acguy-mg-1-100th-scale

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gundam-msr-04-acguy-mg-1-100th-scale/pc_p_20170622095910.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gundam-pmx-003-the-o-mg-1-100th-scale

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/gundam-pmx-003-the-o-mg-1-100th-scale/pc_p_20170620095531.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

[DarkHyren]

I cant look without logging in but I'm assuming those are model kits?
Thing is that Gundam model kits are a different kettle of fish to something like an MP as they are something that you have to assemble/paint/sticker yourself.
So while I could see model kit sprues being sold without packaging, stickers, instructions or even completely made from only one coloured plastic that you'd have to paint yourself after assembly, I cant see this happening for Transformers stuff other then maybe those botcon diy assembly kits they had for the customization classes.

[Sunsurge]

Well ok, how 'bout Star Wars Funko Pops? Apparently no assembly required with these...

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200106_f8c4275bc3eb0a3c.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200104_895bbb3b15d7ef8b.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200103_75a66ea0c7412895.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200102_9055d93f56bfc833.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200103_d1c09c85031feea2.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200108_15dd7e91a103bbb5.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200102_6d0be58b4710be96.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200102_50b885cabc45e37c.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-funko-pop-episode-vii-bundle/MD-18677_20160503200102_ef5c1dafa35f0faf.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=313&dpr=1

[Sunsurge]

Star Wars Signature Licenced Steins?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/star-wars-signature-licensed-steins

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-signature-licensed-steins/MD-23341_20160720125611_9707bc3c8aa3a362.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-signature-licensed-steins/MD-23341_20160720125610_06833648f477aaaf.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/star-wars-signature-licensed-steins/MD-23341_20160720125612_90cda3a664a7253c.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

[Sunsurge]

Toynami Voltron Super Possible Action Figure

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/toynami-voltron-super-poseable-action-figure

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/toynami-voltron-super-poseable-action-figure/MD-18245_20160420192736_39ccc3b74567b2ee.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/toynami-voltron-super-poseable-action-figure/MD-18245_20160420192735_dc0c65f83aad0895.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/toynami-voltron-super-poseable-action-figure/MD-18245_20160420192735_14829079864b5a5e.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/toynami-voltron-super-poseable-action-figure/MD-18245_20160420192736_ef02d482e20c8492.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

[Sunsurge]

And finally! Transformers Series 1 Blind Box Vinyl Figures

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transformers-blind-box-series-1-vinyl-figures

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140425_5ce86024822bd778.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140424_9baaabca22cabb0e.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140424_6f70437ceaec1ad0.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140424_43f28b0df8763b98.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140426_3aadc5edcab37f76.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/transformers-blind-box-series-2/MD-15130_20160114140427_3d46351ed933836f.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1

[DarkHyren]

Not saying it's not possible to get something made up given the right numbers, just that it's likely to be along the same lines as the items you've shown, that is low quality merchandise or diy model kits rather then actual collectible Transformers.
It all depends on what you want out of the drop, if you just want TF funko's, cups or kits like the botcon customization class ones then yes I think it's possible you could get something like that going, but if you are really keen on that "MP-10 in green & gold colours with something Aussie-related like a cricket bat" I dont think it's going to happen via a massdrop, sorry

[Sunsurge]

Well it's certainly a tough crowd in here, shooting down just about everything that gets suggested. What about this next lot? They appear adequately detailed and pre-assembled.


https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kotobukiya-ani-anime-statue

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103841_7082d0a36899afbd.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103841_39529bc718235f5b.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103842_ec7a2b0202797b96.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103841_de96235c837ab4fb.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103843_1132a61530843e95.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/ladies-of-anime-figures/MD-27408_20161005103845_eae4c5b8bb2ff645.jpg?auto=for mat&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

[Borgeman]

The largest point of difference here is the part count.
Excluding DIY model kits (which allow you to do as you please) everything here is not custom. Theyre pre existing items that MD have secured a limited batch/re-release of. A reissue of an existing MP could be possible. A new redeco? Not so sure.

The other things is massdrop is a US based site, many of uts items are not available to ship internationally. Not sure if thats their limitation or part of the agreemenr with the manufacturers of those items.

[Trent]

I think that it'd be difficult, but if you're willing to put in the work to send a few emails and ask a few questions, then go for it Sunsurge! Worst case is Hasbro say no.

If Gok's quote of 1000 units is still current, then you would want to look a something that has as broad appeal as possible. Maybe look at it on an international level as opposed to just an Australian level. As for the deco, well that's easy: an animation accurate colour scheme on MP-10! Figure only. Run it as a preorder and I reckon you'd have little trouble shifting 1000 units. Also have An OTCA tampo somewhere inconspicuous ;) Maybe run it as a Kickstarter to garner the preorders but limit it to 1000 units with individually numbered boxes.

It's worth a shot :)

[Raider]

I think that it'd be difficult, but if you're willing to put in the work to send a few emails and ask a few questions, then go for it Sunsurge! Worst case is Hasbro say no.

If Gok's quote of 1000 units is still current, then you would want to look a something that has as broad appeal as possible. Maybe look at it on an international level as opposed to just an Australian level. As for the deco, well that's easy: an animation accurate colour scheme on MP-10! Figure only. Run it as a preorder and I reckon you'd have little trouble shifting 1000 units. Also have An OTCA tampo somewhere inconspicuous ;) Maybe run it as a Kickstarter to garner the preorders but limit it to 1000 units with individually numbered boxes.

It's worth a shot :)

I think it's a great idea if it can work. All you can do is try right? As Trent says, worst case I'd that it won't work. Best case you cause something awesome to be made.