Power of the Primes toyline leaked

[griffin]

The (entire?) PotP toyline has been leaked (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/power-of-the-primes-possible-lineup.1116369/)... check it out while it's up, as I imagine Hasbro will be telling fansites in a matter of hours to take them down.

Source on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ShangjingHong/), with some movie toy leaks as well.

The ones I can read or work out...

Combiner boxset - Predaking

Leader
- Optimus Prime (new mould)
- Rodimus Prime
- Rodimus Unicronus (purple redeco)
- BW Optimus Primal (fan vote winner)

Voyager
- Grimlock
- Starscream
- Inferno (redeco/remould Hotspot)
- Hun-grrr (combiner core for Abominus)
- Elita-1 (jet mode)

Deluxe
- Cutthroat
- Blot
- Rippersnapper
- Sinnertwin
- Jazz
- Blackwing (Darkwing)
- Dreadwind
- Novastar (Firestar) (Cybertronian car)
- Moonracer (redeco Novastar?)
- Dinobot Slug
- Dinobot Swoop
- Dinobot Snarl
- Dinobot Sludge

Legends
- Dinobot Slash (raptor)
- Windcharger (re-release?)
- Shrapnel (re-release)
- Beachcomber
- Battleslash (half of Battletrap?)
- Roadtrap (other half of Battletrap?)
- Tailgate?
- Outback?
- Cindersaur

Prime Masters
- Micronus & Cloudburst
- Liege Maximo & Skullgrin
- Vector Prime & Metalhawk
- Alchemist? Prime & Submarauder
- Alpha Trion & Landmine
- Megatronus & Bombburst
- Solus Prime & Octopunch
- Quintus Prime & Bludgeon

We were told that all 12 (13?) Primes would be released, so the remaining 4 or 5 are either in a fourth wave, or, will be released as exclusives, like the Titanmasters in the two boxsets last month.

The Movie toy leaks look like they might be a tribute or anniversary line, as they look to be old moulds.

[Raider]

The PotP toyline has been leaked (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/power-of-the-primes-possible-lineup.1116369/)... check it out while it's up, as I imagine Hasbro will be telling fansites in a matter of hours to take them down.

OH... My... GOD...

I don't even know where to start...

DINOBOTS!!!! and Abominus and G1 Fembots and Optimal Optimus and... wow... PREDAKING!!!!!

[Vairn]

Take these with a grain of salt, but it does match rumours.

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[Initial_G]

dammit so many things to add to the want list >_<

If it's true, then really want the femmebots moonracer & nova(fire)star, not sure I like the alt mode for elita-1 though ... also no Arcee to be seen (from the other recent possible leaks)

Dinobots!, Terracons! & Predacons! OUCH my poor wallet

[Raider]

Well looks like Hasbro was holding a lot back for Hascon. Someone is going to get in a lot of trouble :eek:

[DarkHyren]

Hmm, if true looks like Predaking will be a mini Titan class box set like CW Devastator was, so that would be a must buy.
Looks like there might be an Abominus as well so that's cool, as is there finally being some other G1 styled Dinobots other then Grimlock

[griffin]

I edited my post above with the list of toys.

[griffin]

As I had expected, the images are now gone from their facebook source... copy them while you can.

(and don't be surprised if this news topic is removed as well, if we are asked to by Hasbro)

[1AZRAEL1]

Wasn't there news that G1 Predaking was being reissued again and this would be it? I hope for a new classics rendition and not a reissue

[Paulbot]

Wowsers

[graza78]

This is amazing!

[Raider]

Wasn't there news that G1 Predaking was being reissued again and this would be it? I hope for a new classics rendition and not a reissue

It's hard to make out the smaller picks of the bots but they look like possible new designs. The blurb also mentions their being room to store the Matrix and Enigma. I'm betting on a new design completely.

[1AZRAEL1]

It's hard to make out the smaller picks of the bots but they look like possible new designs. The blurb also mentions their being room to store the Matrix and Enigma. I'm betting on a new design completely.

They looked like drawings. But I think the reissue was a warehouse find at BBTS and not an actual reissue. Only time will tell. I am thinking new design too

[griffin]

Hmm, if true looks like Predaking will be a mini Titan class box set like CW Devastator was, so that would be a must buy.


Yes, it looks like it might be next year's Titan class toy, as the writing says that it is formed from "5 voyager scale Predacons", so will be similar to Devastator.

[DarkHyren]

It's hard to make out the smaller picks of the bots but they look like possible new designs. The blurb also mentions their being room to store the Matrix and Enigma. I'm betting on a new design completely.It also says 5 Voyager sized figures so if it's true it's definitely a new mold and not another reissue :D

[DarkHyren]

Yes, it looks like it might be next year's Titan class toy, as the writing says that it is formed from "5 voyager scale Predacons", so will be similar to Devastator.I was honestly hoping for Omega Supreme Titan next as I think that will happen eventually, but yes if these leaks are true it's most likely next years Titan. I just hope the pricing isnt as badly inflated as Trypticon's, a mini Titan box set like this would be should only be about $150-200

[Ploughmans Lunch]

female autobots might be a combiner?

[Raider]

female autobots might be a combiner?

You might be right given elita 1 is voyager sized

[Ploughmans Lunch]

also, as boring as this is, i hope that Inferno from Hot Spot might lead to the rest of the 84/85 carbots being done in cw style.

[Megatran]

No Dinobot Slag?

[DarkHyren]

No Dinobot Slag?He's in the picture next to Swoop. It's hard to tell because of how blurry the names are but they might be going with the "Slug" name instead

[MayzaPrime]

Damn you Hasbro... I just wanted to cut back.

[reillyd]

Someone is going to get fired over this leak I think.. surely they were saving all this for Hascon. Not that I am complaining, of course. Bring on the leaks

[Tober]

Very nice! I wonder if the Dinobots combine... :/

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Very nice! I wonder if the Dinobots combine... :/

Part of me wishes they didn't, but I reckon they're gonna be sharing molds w/ Terrorcons so probably yes.


surely they were saving all this for Hascon

This was literally all Hascon had going for it haha.

[kurdt_the_goat]

That TF1 Blackout looks new... I wonder if it's a movie MP or just a leader class figure? Not sure about the Grimlock he's pictured with though, unfamiliar with his toys...

[ampoldj]

Where is legends Frenzy :confused: maybe last wave ???

[griffin]

I would imagine that all five of the new voyagers will be combiner compatible. Two have a full set of deluxe limbs in this line while Inferno could use Skyreigns limbs.

[DaptoDog]

That Predaking! Only fitting that he'll be Titan Class. And I'll finally have an Abominus and G1 style Dinobots (that combne no less). :D

[Jellico]

You might be right given elita 1 is voyager sized

Which leaves 2 limbs to go?


Honestly I am surprised that there wasn't 4 Deluxe Seekers.

[Gouki]

Sorry guys, but if this is a real leak and I see one of you try preventing me from getting Hun-Gurrr off the shelf in the future I will cut you. :p

[OptimusNerd]

Best versions (upscaled/interpolated) I've seen here (http://imgur.com/a/QcLYN)

With placeholders for Moonracer/Novastar... I question whether they might be working on a new fembot mold (including the teased Arcee) that integrates combiner ports.

[Deonasis]

SO. MUCH. COOL. STUFF!


Also, poor Raffy.R who's screen these appear to be leaked from :(

[Raider]

More leaks! Time to call it a flood me thinks :p

http://i.imgur.com/m1UC50L.jpg

http://imgur.com/whiHSfv.jpg

http://imgur.com/rgkuHgK.jpg

http://imgur.com/GeuMYWc.jpg

http://imgur.com/4dHkNQI.jpg

http://imgur.com/UW2IkMz.jpg

http://imgur.com/AHu9mr9.jpg

[FruitBuyer]

Photobucket? Please. Use Imgur

In regards to the spoilers. I'm a bit disappointed because I was really hoping that G1 Grimlock would be leader sized though Voyager was the more likely. Still he does look sweet and I get a new movie Grimlock figure as leader instead which looks pretty awesome.

[Raider]

Photobucket? Please.

Use Imgur

I've been meaning to change it over for ages, just a matter of finding time as I set up photobucket when it was actually decent...

[Jellico]

Best versions (upscaled/interpolated) I've seen here (http://imgur.com/a/QcLYN)

With placeholders for Moonracer/Novastar... I question whether they might be working on a new fembot mold (including the teased Arcee) that integrates combiner ports.

They look like Chromedome. Wasn't he a retooled Combiner Wars figure? ( l don't have him)

[OptimusNerd]

They look like Chromedome. Wasn't he a retooled Combiner Wars figure? ( l don't have him)

Well those images are just animation placeholders... the actual mold could be anything we have/haven't seen yet. If you look hard enough everything can be called re-tooled from something else. But if they need combiner ports, and curvy bits/backpacks for the fembots... we might see something largely new.

Here's hoping that we might see a HasCon "exclusive" Arcee in September to tell us what the others are going to look like.

[MrTrick]

is the Optimus Prime figures another retool of the TR/Ginrai mould?

[Raider]

is the Optimus Prime figures another retool of the TR/Ginrai mould?

Looks brand new to me, more like the original powermaster OP.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Combining Terrorcons? Fembots? Legends-class Duocon/s? Titan-class combining Predacons?!!

Goddammit Hasbro, I'm trying to budget here!:(

Also, that Cindersaur looks a lot like a remold/redeco of that Dinobot Slash.

[DELTAprime]

Assuming this is true, my budget just got 0wned.

[Trent]

As cool as these all are. I'm kinda against the idea of leaking an entire line and then having that leak promoted throughout the fandom.

[Raider]

As cool as these all are. I'm kinda against the idea of leaking an entire line and then having that leak promoted throughout the fandom.

I understand your point as it does remove the surprise a little bit but I am more a fan of them mapping out in advance, even if no picks are available, where they are taking the line so that it gives me time to consider well in advance what I plan on purchasing. This mostly is because I would not purchase some 3P items if I knew that HasTak had in the pipeline well in advance.

[griffin]

The rest of the slideshow package (https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/posts/493300904353675)...

It looks like a slideshow presentation for retailers... so for it to leak some high up people at Hasbro are gonna be pissed.

[Jellico]

There are good leaks and bad leaks.

Good leaks encourage you to want more. Eg in this case some have said it may have screwed over Hascon. OTOH it has created excitement and people will want more than just some grainy pics. I wonder what Hasbro event that you might see those at.

Bad leaks cause problems. Eg photos of a product that is never produced causing frustration among the fans.

Ultimately it is how the leak gets spun.

[DELTAprime]

The rest of the slideshow package...
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=493300904353675&id=100402350310201

It looks like a slideshow presentation for retailers... so for it to leak some high up people at Hasbro are gonna be pissed.

For us fans there are two ways they can handle it from here if the leaks are true. They can ignore the leaks and reveal these toys at the same time they were originally going to. Or they can put out their own images/renders of the toys and try to get on top of this. I find it amazing how many companies will go with the first option, it's like sticking your head in the sand.:p

[OptimusNerd]

The rest of the slideshow package...
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=493300904353675&id=100402350310201

It looks like a slideshow presentation for retailers... so for it to leak some high up people at Hasbro are gonna be pissed.

Gone already.

[Starscream77]

That TF1 Blackout looks new... I wonder if it's a movie MP or just a leader class figure? Not sure about the Grimlock he's pictured with though, unfamiliar with his toys...

Really hope its an MP Blackout but not holding my breath

[doublespy]

Absolutely love most of these reveals.

The new Leader Optimus looks absolutely fantastic. The way these leaders figure are designed I won't be surprised that Optimus Primal will be a core figure with a jet armor attached to "evolve" into Optimal Optimus.

And it's really nice of Hasbro to work all these classic pretenders into the gimmick.

Looks like aside from the Prime Masters, Leader Prime, Slag, Swoop, Grimlock, and the reveals at SDCC, everything is placeholder image. (Elita-One looks like a CAD drawing/prototype, and a Starscream re-mold. Not too sure what to think of that.)

Grimlock looks like he has combiner connectors too.

Titan class Predaking is great news and I have no doubt Takara would knock it out of the park like Devastator.

[hYpNoS]

So...if the leaders have an evolution gimmick does that mean...PMOP SHOULD of replaced optimus prime here?

Because ginrai bulks up to become super ginrai via the trailer, sure orion pax to prime is nice but its a much better fit personally.

All I know is the decoy suits I want each and everyone while the rest I need to think long and hard about

[griffin]

Gone already.

The facebook posting is still there, but that link I posted before isn't working anymore... so I've changed it to one that should work (https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/posts/493300904353675).

Those additional eight slides detail the gimmicks/play-pattern for each of the size classes, plus reveal more Cyber series toys (reissuing two old Commanders, and releasing two new Battalions in wave 3 - Sideswipe and Shockwave), and a new "iconic character" toyline of four figures (Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron and Starscream), done in very simplistic, cheap styles (even simpler looking than Cyber Battalion toys), of about Deluxe size.

The play-pattern info on each size class notes things Hasbro announced at SDCC, with a few more added bits of info...

Prime Masters
- 13 Prime Masters (12 plus matrix), but only 8 will be released at regular retail (as I suspected earlier). The remaining 5 either have a limited release, like store exclusives... Or, maybe the 4 Leader Class toys and Predaking are packed with a Prime Master each.
- their pretender shells become weapons for the Prime Masters to ride/use.

Legends
- 9 toys (see first post).
- Prime Masters fit inside each toys' alt-mode (the reissued Shrapnel and recoloured Brawn as Outback have hollowed out spot, but CW Windcharger doesn't, so this one is now most likely a new mould)
- It says "fan favorite characters" for this range... I wouldn't exactly call any of these 9 characters as major fan favourites.

Deluxe
- 13 toys (see first post)
- Prime Masters attach to the Deluxe toy in both of their modes, with it attaching to the chest of the robot mode.

Voyager
- 5 toys (see first post)
- Armour accessories that the Prime Masters plug onto.

Leader (no individual slide)
- A Prime Master can fit into the chest.

Titan Class
- Predaking is noted as being Titan Class, confirming it will be in the same "size class" as Devastator, Metroplex, Trypticon and Fort Max.
- To be released in the Fall in America, which is our Spring, and that's the usual "scheduled" release date for Titans in America, showing up in stores around August... we just get ours a month or two earlier here.
- Predaking can hold two Prime Masters inside it's chest (Leaders only hold one)

Those Movie toy slides are puzzling though, as the dates for the first two waves have already passed... so maybe the line was cancelled due to lack of retailer interest, and this slide show is at least 6 months old (which would explain why several later wave images are stand-in images of old toys or basic art).
Blackout does look like a new mould, or a reworked TF1 Voyager, but Grimlock looks like the TF4 mould.

Sometimes when there has been a one-off leak, Hasbro would promptly release official images or press-release to get on top of it... but if this was the key feature of their Transformers presentation in September at HasCon, I wonder if they will just sit on it for the next 6 weeks, or start drip-feeding us official images or artwork, and then use HasCon to reveal the actual toys.

[Jellico]

Is it too much to hope for somewhere to store Clobber and Pterro on Grimlock and Swoop? I have been having an illogical amount of fun with Brawn and Brawn.

[Lord_Zed]

Not sure I want more Combiner Wars style toys, but boy do I want new Pretender toys.

Hope they add Iguanus to the lineup.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

If those Prime Master Decoys turn into weapons, I'd love to see an Abominus/combiner-compatible gun-mode Sixshot in there as well. It's probably too much to ask, but it'd be cool.

Either way, stellar work from Hasbro here. Usually there'll only be a handful of TFs that get my interest from new lines, with a few maybes as well, but this time I'm really looking forward to a lot of it. A good third of the line is must-haves for me. Especially that Predaking - if it's the same situation as the Combiner Wars Devastator then this is the closest we'll ever come to a Masterpiece Predacons set, and I'm a huge sucker for the G1 Predacons/Predaking.

[Ironprime3089]

Personally I am really excited to see all this stuff. I missed out on alot of items from cw onwards and thankfully while all these new reveals look great it isn't a line where I must have everything, I will get predaking anx the dinos for sure, most likely abominus and then mayyybe leader rodimus. I am more excited to see what else comes from this line, it is supposed to run through 2019 so I am hoping for some army builders for each faction (bring on vehicons or generic seekers) and I am hoping for a new ratchet/ironhide. I was also surprised that predaking was the next titan, I thought unicron would be a more appropriate way to end the 'prime wars' trilogy

[prjkt]

There is a lot of "yes please" here forme

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Where are Starscreams arm combiner ports?

[Gouki]

Where are Starscreams arm combiner ports?

Because he's a combiner torso. Look's like this year will be cumlination of the last few years of toy engineering (and Hasbro have hinted now they've developed modern, great, combiners and Headmasters and the like, they can offer a greater range of products than ever before so don't expect them to go away forever at any point). I'm excited.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Because he's a combiner torso. Look's like this year will be cumlination of the last few years of toy engineering (and Hasbro have hinted now they've developed modern, great, combiners and Headmasters and the like, they can offer a greater range of products than ever before so don't expect them to go away forever at any point). I'm excited.

nono, I know hes a combiner torso, I'm just wondering where the arm ports are? The leg (I assume?) ports are on the bottom of the robot mode legs, but idk where the arm ports are?

[Other]

Where are Starscreams arm combiner ports?

On the inside of his forearms, they looks like normal cavitys for storing his fists in altmode at first but if you look closely you can see the clip. It's a bit clearer on the official photo where you can just see the grey coloured clip but the angle on the render isn't very helpful
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/07/20/power-primes-initial-official-images-345162

[Verno]

I shared this idea with Tober and he thought I was crazy, but I'll share it here nonetheless:

Thunderwing and Star Saber will get Leader class figures in POTP. Like Rodimus Prime, they are made up of a Deluxe-sized figure (in this instance a jet) that plugs into the front of a larger jet-like trailer, akin to the original Thunderwing and Star Saber figures.

Apeface will get a Deluxe class triple-changer figure in POTP, transforming from ape, to jet, to robot.

The Deluxe portion of the Leader class Optimus Primal will be a retool/redeco of the Deluxe triple-changer Apeface.

The jet-mode of the Deluxe Primal figure will plug into the front of the jet-like trailer.

Thus, Primal won't be a gorilla hauling a trailer.

[UltraMarginal]

I've heard crazier ideas. that's for sure

[Gouki]

nono, I know hes a combiner torso, I'm just wondering where the arm ports are? The leg (I assume?) ports are on the bottom of the robot mode legs, but idk where the arm ports are?

I'm so sorry, I read that as 'why'. I'm... having a really shit day.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I shared this idea with Tober and he thought I was crazy, but I'll share it here nonetheless:

Thunderwing and Star Saber will get Leader class figures in POTP. Like Rodimus Prime, they are made up of a Deluxe-sized figure (in this instance a jet) that plugs into the front of a larger jet-like trailer, akin to the original Thunderwing and Star Saber figures.

Apeface will get a Deluxe class triple-changer figure in POTP, transforming from ape, to jet, to robot.

The Deluxe portion of the Leader class Optimus Primal will be a retool/redeco of the Deluxe triple-changer Apeface.

The jet-mode of the Deluxe Primal figure will plug into the front of the jet-like trailer.

Thus, Primal won't be a gorilla hauling a trailer.Plausible (and pretty cool if it happens), but I'm not totally convinced that the Leader-class smaller components are Deluxe-class sized (they look a bit smaller to me so far), plus I suspect (and again could well be wrong) that the rumoured Apeface and Snapdragon molds would be Voyager size.
I like your ideas though, and they definitely sound like something that could happen.:) And then I'd have to update my Thunderwing and replace my teeny-tiny Takara deluxe.

[davieanix]

Those Dinobots will 100% totally combine.

Super happy to see Abominus!

[Raider]

Those Dinobots will 100% totally combine.



That will annoy some people but I honestly don't mind if they do. I know they are not combiners but neither was Prime or Cyclonus and they got their own set. It would be fun to see it happen imho.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

I'm so sorry, I read that as 'why'. I'm... having a really shit day.

<3 know the feeling, stay strong <3

[reillyd]

I am so glad Cyber Batallion toys are continuing. I know a lot of collectors don't like the line, but these are massive toys compared to a deluxe class, and really quite fun for kids. Shock wave is going to be awesome.

[DELTAprime]

I shared this idea with Tober and he thought I was crazy, but I'll share it here nonetheless:

Thunderwing and Star Saber will get Leader class figures in POTP. Like Rodimus Prime, they are made up of a Deluxe-sized figure (in this instance a jet) that plugs into the front of a larger jet-like trailer, akin to the original Thunderwing and Star Saber figures.


I feel like if we get a Thunderwing they will just do a retool to the Black Shadow/Overlord mould.:( That said if we do get a Leader Thunderwing I will so be replacing both my Deluxe Black Shadow and Thunderwing.:p

[Raider]

Not as solid as the above leaks but another potential one, Deluxe Wreck-gar as a Walgreens exclusive:

http://i.imgur.com/KYZXuxZl.jpg

Source: TFW2005

[Jellico]

This one is stretching it a bit but the preview of IDWs Till All Are One had Starscream in his PotP body fighting a emissary of a Prime in Windblade's mind.

With all the talk of merging and stealing minds you can sort of see all the dots start to connect to where PotP is headed. After all Hasbro has been talking up a big game about easter eggs for Starscream.

[Verno]

Remember how some Bus Stops were adorned with enormous Titans Return posters? I know some resourceful members here got their hands on a couple of them. I'm hoping POTP might get some similar advertising, in which case I might be asking exactly how those previous posters were acquired...

[griffin]

This could be a leaked mock-up of the upcoming Titan Predaking combiner (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/02/power-primes-predaking-mockup-new-toyline-megatron-prototype-347722)... a VERY rough preliminary mock-up.
In case it is true, I didn't want to risk hosting a copy here.

It also includes a white mock-up figure next to it, that is being claimed to be a new Megatron toy... but I'm not so sure.

[Jellico]

I have been waiting for someone to post this to ask if the little white guy is Megatron. The back end of the vehicle in front screams tank. And the lines match that Cyberverse Megs whose photos keep showing up.

[techx]

Just saw Robot kingdom posted the details in their Facebook page. Looks great. Collectively named as Volcanius.

[shockNwave]

This could be a leaked mock-up of the upcoming Titan Predaking combiner (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/02/power-primes-predaking-mockup-new-toyline-megatron-prototype-347722)... a VERY rough preliminary mock-up.
In case it is true, I didn't want to risk hosting a copy here.

It also includes a white mock-up figure next to it, that is being claimed to be a new Megatron toy... but I'm not so sure.

A considerable improvement over the silhouette image of Predaking.

There's more bang for your buck in having a titan class combiner (see Devastator) than a stand alone like Metroplex or Trypticon.

[philby]

Ok I feel a little dumb asking but what exactly is the prime master gimmick supposed to do? Titans Returns/Headmasters has the little guys be the head and you can swap heads around and stuff. Targetmasters had little guys turn into the gun. So what do these do? Anything? They just sit on the chest of some figures?

[Paulbot]

Yep, they just sit inside the chests of Leaders, on the chests/arms of Voyagers and Deluxes, ride inside Legends, and you can plug them in as (rather featureless) heads on TR figures...

[Jellico]

And they seem to fit in the feet and hands of the PotP combiners.

Think of them as power-ups.

Really I don't know how a kid is supposed to keep track of all the overlapping power-ups from Titan Masters, Primes, and combiner configurations without a spreadsheet.

[SMHFConvoy]

And they seem to fit in the feet and hands of the PotP combiners.

Think of them as power-ups.

Really I don't know how a kid is supposed to keep track of all the overlapping power-ups from Titan Masters, Primes, and combiner configurations without a spreadsheet.

They'll probably just make their own story up.

[griffin]

More leaks from Asia, with character artwork (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/13/power-primes-characters-art-348982)... not showing us any new characters, but I wonder if the artwork is to cross-sell, or planned mult-packs?

[DarkHyren]

More leaks from Asia, with character artwork (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/13/power-primes-characters-art-348982)... not showing us any new characters, but I wonder if the artwork is to cross-sell, or planned mult-packs?Some of those are pretty good and I'd print them out if we can get access like we did for the TR posters :)
Remember how some Bus Stops were adorned with enormous Titans Return posters? I know some resourceful members here got their hands on a couple of them. I'm hoping POTP might get some similar advertising, in which case I might be asking exactly how those previous posters were acquired...I think this one might interest you lol
https://i.imgur.com/lMWTSLml.jpg

[FruitBuyer]

I'm looking forward to the Prime Masters more than I am for the Titan Masters. While the Titan Masters look to be much better individual toys, their weapon form wasn't as good. On the other hand the Prime Masters have less transformation gimmicks so their weapon mode looks less ridiculous.

Definitely keen on some for my Dinobots

[griffin]

The Leader Optimus toy has been shown off by the usual Asian leaker (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/14/power-primes-leader-class-optimus-prime-hand-photos-349080), with the Masterpiece Optimus, to show off how much it was designed to look like the MP's robot mode.

[Gouki]

Seriously though, is Hun-Gurrr backwards? What did they do to him? Do not ruin him Hasbro.

[Jellico]

Did you see the reposed Scattershot pic?

Hun-gurrr is a modified Silverbolt with the legs forming the beast necks. The arms form the back legs and some dinky fold up fore legs are attached to the back of his hips.
What intrigues me is the kibble on the beast's tummy (bot's back). It is almost down to the ground. The gesalt's chest would be stored on the necks/legs and the back should be clean. So what is it? It looks like the tail mis transformed. It is where I would expect it to be on a Silverbolt (aircraft nose) but how does it get over the head to rest on the bot's chest in bot mode.

[Zommael]

Is it too much to hope we might somehow get an Ultra Magnus whose cab combines with his trailer out of POTP - probably an Optimus retool - or does the CW Leader preclude that completely?

[philby]

Remember how some Bus Stops were adorned with enormous Titans Return posters? I know some resourceful members here got their hands on a couple of them. I'm hoping POTP might get some similar advertising, in which case I might be asking exactly how those previous posters were acquired...

Didn't Hasbro provide the art for those posters to Griffin? You could download them and get it printed.

[griffin]

Yep, which I sent to the major fansites to share to fans... and the resolution was good enough to do full sized posters quite nicely...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/collections/griffinofoz/1610b.jpg

[Gouki]

Did you see the reposed Scattershot pic?

Hun-gurrr is a modified Silverbolt with the legs forming the beast necks. The arms form the back legs and some dinky fold up fore legs are attached to the back of his hips.
What intrigues me is the kibble on the beast's tummy (bot's back). It is almost down to the ground. The gesalt's chest would be stored on the necks/legs and the back should be clean. So what is it? It looks like the tail mis transformed. It is where I would expect it to be on a Silverbolt (aircraft nose) but how does it get over the head to rest on the bot's chest in bot mode.

Yeah I've seen the conspiracy theory that he's Silverbolt (I personally think if he's not a new mould he'll be a Sky Lynx heavy heavy retool.), but that really doesn't excuse it. I have that attachment to Hun-Gurrr, that others have for the Predacons or the Seekers, or what have you. And especially since his original toy is absolutely one that could haves followed Hasbro and TakaraTomys current 'Take the G1 toy, add some modern engineering/joints and go'

[Jellico]

Well Sky Lynx is a Silverbolt mod too ;)

https://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1505009720-screenshot-20170909-215241.png

Just after seeing this I don't like your chances.

It is a bit like the guys questioning the combining Dinobots. They don't combine because someone wanted combining Dinobots. They combine so the base engineering can be used across a bunch of beasts that people do expect to combine. Eg Rippersnapper/Slag. Once you make your peace with that the rest is easier to accept.

[Gouki]

Honestly, it might be that stupid tail in the chest I'm having the most problem with.

[bowspearer]

It looks like the tail mis transformed.

It's more likely looking at the arm post locations that it's been misassembled with the torso back to front.

Wouldn't be the first time a test shot or proto has been put together wrongly.

[griffin]

Confirmation from the leaked Hasbro images, of the third wave of Cyber Battalion toys (http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/01/13/even-2018-transformers-toy-listings-bumblebee-movie-cyber-battalion-356756) - Shockwave and Sideswipe - listed at a wholesaler.