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Magnus
6th August 2017, 07:39 PM
Series – Masterpiece
Sub-line - Movie Masterpiece
Size/class - N/A
New/remould/redeco - New
Wave - N/A
Released here – N/A
Approximate retail price: USD109.90 (Robot Kingdom)
RRP - JPY15000 (TakaraTOMY version)
Approximate Size - 25.5cm
Allegiance - Autobot
Alt-mode – Peterbilt 379
Main Features/Gimmicks – Masterpiece detail and engineering; changeable face
Main Colours – Red, blue, grey
Main Accessories – Gun, two battle blades

The second figure from the revived Movie Masterpiece line.

This review will have a lot of comparisons to the Revenge of the Fallen leader mould.

Vehicle mode

http://i.imgur.com/2oYSF22.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mBb90S4.jpg

The familiar Peterbilt 379. The red plastic has a slight metallic sparkle.
The flames are pinstriped in silver, but the pinstriping is thicker than on Buster Optimus Prime.

The headlight clusters are now made of die cast metal with clear plastic lenses.

While the overall shape is the same, there are some detail changes that set this version apart: the side-mounted fuel tanks and the sleeper cab guard are smaller, and the yellow paint gradient on the nose is curiously absent, even though it's still present on the front wheel arches.

http://i.imgur.com/BBL8SSg.jpg

Due to its more complex transformation, there are a lot more seams and shutlines than on the old RotF leader-class figure.

http://i.imgur.com/WEb3EYM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wj7tFVW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LM7XZrJ.jpg

The RotF figure is actually larger in vehicle mode than this one, which is something of a surprise.

http://i.imgur.com/0EcAG6S.jpg

An apparently common fault is the gap between the bottom of the windscreen and the bonnet. From what I can tell, this is due to the way the swinging arms that form part of the top of the bonnet are mounted; they're angled a bit further down than they should be relative to the windscreens. This prevents the arms from lining up properly with the cab. That said, it is possible to minimise or even eliminate the gap if you transform the figure a very specific way, as EmGo has found. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ40We6PYyQ)

http://i.imgur.com/e3ikEOX.jpg

Note the narrower gap below the windscreen and the now-flush nose.

There are pipes that are meant to attach to the bottom of the smokestacks, but they don't swing out far enough to line up with the smokestacks, so they can't plug in. Apparently it's possible to cut into the plastic of the storage compartment boxes so they can swing out a bit further and therefore line up.

http://i.imgur.com/kmFvuEn.jpg

While there's no weapon storage, both blades can attach to the gun, which in turn can attach to the trailer hitch. The hitch itself is compatible with MP-10's trailer.

I'm going to give this one to the older figure - not only is the vehicle mode cleaner, with fewer seams and shutlines, but its parts are better proportioned and it doesn't have any misaligned parts.

Transformation

Very complex. Since this figure doesn't have an electronics pack or a Mech-Alive gimmick to accommodate, the torso now has a very involved transformation.

Elements of the transformation of the lower legs and feet are lifted from the older figure, so transforming those parts will be recognisable to anyone who owns or has handled RotF leader Optimus.

Not mentioned in the instructions are steps to flare out panels on the lower legs and forearms. The effect on the legs is subtle, but moving the panels makes the lower legs a bit bigger as well as giving the ankles slightly more room to move. The effect is more pronounced on the forearms, which makes them seem bigger.

There seems to be more 'compacting' of the robot in transformation compared to the RotF mould; the truck is substantially smaller, yet the robot is only marginally smaller.

Robot mode

http://i.imgur.com/VWXlNZV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eEfV9R5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fkrxXmj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/70X7w8t.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0G8WHjU.jpg

This is where the figure really shines.

The new transformation in the torso means that it is far more compact front-to-back, and therefore less deep than the old figure. The arms are leaner, although the red panels on the forearms flare out, and the chest seems more massive and bulky in proportion as a result. Adding to the red and blue are silver and unpainted grey plastic.

Another effect of the new torso transformation is that the red parts on the lower chest, and therefore the headlights, are not faux parts as they were on the previous figure. That is the actual front of the nose of the truck there, with the actual truck headlights.

It seems that some of the aesthetic compromises made in truck mode were for the benefit of robot mode: the lack of the yellow paint gradient on the nose means there isn't any yellow on Prime's lower chest, and the fuel tanks on his back aren't so large and so preserve the figure's silhouette when viewed from the front or side. The more involved transformation means that the remaining panels visible in robot mode are a lot smaller.

http://i.imgur.com/yMxiBCu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eirg82S.jpg

Optimus now has a head with changeable faces, a feature that debuted on Armour Knight Optimus Prime. Previously, one could only have the face plate or the unmasked face, depending on the figure.

Optimus now has superior articulation: the elbows have a deeper bend, the waist can rotate to a limited degree, and the knees have double joints. The fingers are articulated, with the thumb having a single joint and the index finger having two. The other three fingers are moulded together and have a single joint. The only loss of articulation is in the ankles: they are no longer a ball-and-socket joint, so the feet cannot rotate side-to-side anymore.

http://i.imgur.com/bVQaLK0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SukpMYP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PxpLt98.jpg

As mentioned before, the weapons consist of a single gun and two battle blades. The gun is based on one he wielded in RotF. The blades look virtually identical, but are specific to each arm.

The blades are slightly oversized and the gun seems a tad small; ideally, I would have preferred the blades be a bit smaller and the gun a bit bigger.

http://i.imgur.com/TzNFZkO.jpg

The combined weapons are capable of being stowed on the back, as the gun's attachment point at the trailer hitch is still accessible.

As with MPM-3, there is die cast metal visible on the robot mode: the abdomen, shins and parts of the feet are made of unpainted metal. The added weight due to the die cast metal may make the figure feel more satisfying to hold to some collectors.

http://i.imgur.com/QD9wlFC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4q2R7lq.jpg

Optimus now has a Matrix chamber in his upper abdomen, even though he wasn't seen to carry the Matrix of Leadership until Dark of the Moon and this figure represents Optimus as he appeared in the first two movies - could this be 'future-proofing' for a possible Dark of the Moon remould, as some have suggested?

http://i.imgur.com/GGBkTrj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VfabVDH.jpg

The Matrix itself is a small metal item which is mounted in its chamber by way of two pegs which slot into two holes in the Matrix. Unfortunately, it has these slots on both sides.

The figure certainly isn't short on detail, although there are a few areas that could have used paint.

Verdict

The fact that the RotF figure holds up so well eight years later, despite having an electronics pack and a Mech-Alive gimmick, goes to show how well it was designed. It's sometimes considered a masterpiece in its own right, and rightly so. However, this new figure represents a substantial step forward in engineering from the RotF leader-class figure.

Is it good enough to replace the RotF leader figure? Possibly, but I'm certainly not doing so. Each does something better than the other.

Although it looks great as a whole, elements of the vehicle mode and transformation seem to come up short. I would have preferred slightly larger fuel tanks for the benefit of the vehicle mode, and the slightly misaligned lower exhaust pipes are a (minor) gripe that should have ideally been caught before mass production.

Whether or not your figure will have the misaligned truck nose and therefore the gap beneath the windscreen seems to be a case of 'your mileage may vary'; some examples supposedly don't have this fault. The transformation 'fix' that EmGo found goes towards correcting this fault, but if this issue is a deal-breaker, it might be worth waiting for a second production run, or to see if the upcoming TakaraTOMY version will have resolved the issue.

Flawed it may be, but I'm still certainly happy to have this figure.

christalcase
6th August 2017, 07:49 PM
Your review reflects my opinion perfectly! I got very frustrated when I first transformed him into vehicle mode and didn't know that he had the common misaligned panels design flaw (thought it was my transformation skills, even though I followed the instructions step by step). It really soured my experience.

Other than that, the robot mode is pretty good although I prefer the proportions of the ROTF Leader. The transformation shares some similarities to the Leader class figure so this Masterpiece didn't blow me away as much as MPM3 Bumblebee did. Overall, I think he is a tad bit pricey but is a solid rendition of the character.

A few more photos since he is nice in robot mode.

http://i.imgur.com/IFdM913.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mjimsGC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5nAIQzn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/S5erwcL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vN9PJCD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UwcjY28.jpg

Trent
6th August 2017, 08:44 PM
Great write up Magnus. I'm gettin the Takara version so I have to wait until September to give it a go.

drifand
8th August 2017, 09:22 AM
I thought for a MP, this should have chrome finishes. But yes I can see people agreeing and disagreeing with this. I can see a price increase lately for masterpieces and is to a point I am thinking whether I really want to vote with my wallet for the quality I am paying.

Good review btw.

Magnus
13th August 2017, 07:24 PM
Your review reflects my opinion perfectly! I got very frustrated when I first transformed him into vehicle mode and didn't know that he had the common misaligned panels design flaw (thought it was my transformation skills, even though I followed the instructions step by step). It really soured my experience.

Other than that, the robot mode is pretty good although I prefer the proportions of the ROTF Leader. The transformation shares some similarities to the Leader class figure so this Masterpiece didn't blow me away as much as MPM3 Bumblebee did. Overall, I think he is a tad bit pricey but is a solid rendition of the character.


I knew about the potentially misaligned nose going in, but since some units didn't have it, I decided to risk it anyway.

In terms of proportions, I think the RotF mould's big advantage is its bigger arms. The chest wouldn't be so big in proportion if MPM-4 had bigger arms, and MPM-4 has smaller panels on its arms as well as concealing the storage boxes on the lower legs.

Regarding the transformation, I know what you mean. The legs being so familiar means that the transformation doesn't seem to be very 'novel', but it show how 'right' the designers got RotF Optimus.


Great write up Magnus. I'm gettin the Takara version so I have to wait until September to give it a go.

Please let us know what you think, especially if you find something different to what I've written or photographed.


I thought for a MP, this should have chrome finishes. But yes I can see people agreeing and disagreeing with this. I can see a price increase lately for masterpieces and is to a point I am thinking whether I really want to vote with my wallet for the quality I am paying.

Good review btw.

I'm glad it doesn't have chrome - the finish is liable to rub or flake off, especially on the grille and bumper, which forms the soles of the feet. Silver paint doesn't look quite as nice, but it's a lot more durable.

Price rises in general would be due to the ever-increasing cost of R&D, tooling, raw materials, and factory costs. I suspect that the movie masterpieces in particular are pricey due to their more intricate sculpting and tooling, a potentially higher part count, and the use of die-cast metal (the metal parts themselves have detailed shapes and details, too).

KingGrimlock
28th August 2017, 01:08 PM
Got this guy yesterday and I really like him. the transformation is involved but still enjoyable for me. However I too have the issues with the cab gap, sometimes it will stay and other times it won't, maybe a better fix will come around in the future. Robot mode is fantastic with all its detailing and looks great next to mpm3.

GoktimusPrime
28th August 2017, 09:16 PM
RRP - N/A
Correction: RRP = 15000JPY (≈$180), or 16200JPY (≈$195) after tax.
(Source (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mpm-4))

Magnus
28th August 2017, 10:59 PM
Correction: RRP = 15000JPY (≈$180), or 16200JPY (≈$195) after tax.
(Source (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mpm-4))

Thanks for the tip. With Bumblebee, I was able to use Zing's price, but obviously didn't have a local price for Optimus, so I left it blank.

For Calibur Optimus, I just did a quick search of common online stores, picked the cheapest in-stock price, and specified the retailer.

I've updated the pricing section accordingly.

hYpNoS
29th August 2017, 02:11 AM
I'd say the lack of chrome would be because of the joint venture between hasbro and takara, I reckon with time they could of had a better foot transformation that left the truck grille alone.

I'm curious to see if the Japanese version retains the stock imagery differences they keep showing it off with and any differences with the qc, if I manage to get one (due to me missing out on that one) I'll let you guys know the changes.

Could just be like bumblebee where its just small tiny things that don't matter though, anyway solid review, will keep these in mind if I cave to the hasbro international version (which is cheaper to get as a whole)

DaptoDog
29th September 2017, 09:29 PM
Opened and transformed my Takara version tonight. Damn transforming from truck to robot mode was not enjoyable. Body sprawled everywhere. Making sure everything was tabbed in properly was tedious.

Perhaps I'll appreciate the transformation more after giving it a few more attempts. Still, MPM-3 Bumblebee was so much more enjoyable and didn't feel like work.

But hey, in the end it looks great. It looks like Movie Prime.

Trent
4th October 2017, 09:54 PM
So mine had a pretty hideous hood gap. I've spent quite a few hours trying to figure out what was wrong and on mine at least, I've found it. I was able to eliminate my gap very easily by leaving the grey tabs that connect both forearms together untabbed in truck mode. This twisted the forearm sections of the hood up toward the outside of the windshield giving it enough extra movement to close the gaps. The hood sections are now only held together by the tabs that go into the front grill. Mine now has negligible gap under the windshield.

I'm keen for someone else to give this a go and see what they find.

I'd post photos but I no longer have an image sharing account.

FruitBuyer
5th October 2017, 08:17 AM
So mine had a pretty hideous hood gap. I've spent quite a few hours trying to figure out what was wrong and on mine at least, I've found it. I was able to eliminate my gap very easily by leaving the grey tabs that connect both forearms together untabbed in truck mode. This twisted the forearm sections of the hood up toward the outside of the windshield giving it enough extra movement to close the gaps. The hood sections are now only held together by the tabs that go into the front grill. Mine now has negligible gap under the windshield.

I'm keen for someone else to give this a go and see what they find.

I'd post photos but I no longer have an image sharing account.

imgur.com

Unlimited image hosting with no restrictions. Photobucket is what your grandparents use.

Trent
5th October 2017, 12:13 PM
imgur.com

Unlimited image hosting with no restrictions. Photobucket is what your grandparents use.

Actually, my grandparents use photo albums.

I am aware of the alternatives thanks.

doublespy
1st January 2018, 11:58 PM
I got one from the “better batch” recently. The cab gap is now virtually non-existent, which makes the whole experience so much better.

I completely agree with Magnus’ point that the truck mode has been compromised for the sake of robot mode. I’m no truck expert but the proportions definitely look off compared to the rotf Leader mold. The cab section is too short, overall width too narrow (judging by the nose and grill section) and even the tires are unrealistically narrow to make the ‘bot mode look better.

I also wholeheartedly echo Magnus’ opinion that the rotf Leader mold not only beats mpm04 on truck mode but also still looks good in its own right all these years later. It blew my mind when it came out and for me it’s hands down the best mass-release toy in the past two decades. Imagine what it could’ve achieved without having to accommodate electrics, mech-alive, AND combining with Jetfire!

But with its imperfection and compromise, MPM04 is by far the definitive movie Optimus imho.

GoktimusPrime
2nd January 2018, 02:03 PM
Saw and handled this toy about a month ago... the one that I handled had shoulders that wouldn't lock into position. I asked the owner if there was a way for the shoulders to lock in and he said no - they just sit there. It's a nuisance because the shoulders dislodge every time you move them, which makes it a minor irritant when posing and a significant frustration during play! :eek: :(

Now I don't know if it was just this one toy or if this is a common problem. Please let me know if other people's MPM OPs have this issue or not... don't leave me in the lurch thinking it's a common issue like I did with MP Lambor! :o But just to ensure that I don't fall into making that mistake again, I will disclaim that I have only ever seen/handled one figure. Awaiting confirmation from others to see if this is common or if my friend just lucked out by getting one with loose-as-goose shoulders. Much like the shoulders on my old MP Lambor, they stay in position just fine if you don't touch them or move them veeery carefully/gently, but they're otherwise highly prone to coming out even with moderate force. And for a post MP Lambor toy you'd think that they'd include some basic way for the shoulders to lock in, even something as simple as a tab (like the way that MP28 Hot Rod's shoulders tab onto the body - it does the job well enough).

doublespy
2nd January 2018, 06:13 PM
Am not aware of this as a common issue and mine tab in very securely. Could be that the chest wasn’t transformered properly?

Magnus
2nd January 2018, 09:14 PM
Saw and handled this toy about a month ago... the one that I handled had shoulders that wouldn't lock into position. I asked the owner if there was a way for the shoulders to lock in and he said no - they just sit there. It's a nuisance because the shoulders dislodge every time you move them, which makes it a minor irritant when posing and a significant frustration during play! :eek: :(

Now I don't know if it was just this one toy or if this is a common problem. Please let me know if other people's MPM OPs have this issue or not... don't leave me in the lurch thinking it's a common issue like I did with MP Lambor! :o But just to ensure that I don't fall into making that mistake again, I will disclaim that I have only ever seen/handled one figure. Awaiting confirmation from others to see if this is common or if my friend just lucked out by getting one with loose-as-goose shoulders. Much like the shoulders on my old MP Lambor, they stay in position just fine if you don't touch them or move them veeery carefully/gently, but they're otherwise highly prone to coming out even with moderate force. And for a post MP Lambor toy you'd think that they'd include some basic way for the shoulders to lock in, even something as simple as a tab (like the way that MP28 Hot Rod's shoulders tab onto the body - it does the job well enough).

Mine definitely doesn't have this problem.

It's possible that you and the owner weren't pushing the shoulder in far enough, because it does click into place and is held quite solidly.

I didn't push the shoulders in far enough for the joints to click the first time I transformed Optimus back into robot mode, so I can understand why someone might think the shoulders didn't lock.

Ralph Wiggum
27th January 2018, 12:58 PM
I ended up folding and getting one to match my MPM-03 Bumblebee. They both now sit proudly on the hallway table to welcome guests as they walk in.

It replaced my Leader Class DOTM Jetwing Optimus and having the smaller backpack and smaller arms definitely makes MPM-04 a better looking toy in bot mode. From a transformation perspective, I feel this is a bit of a let down as it doesn't feel as refined as MPM-03 or what I expect from the Masterpiece line. I similarly had issues with keeping the windscreen/bonnet flush, and it felt like pieces were harder to keep tabbed together, like a badly cut jigsaw puzzle.

Still no regrets in purchasing, but with the movie Masterpiece line I'm more inclined to buy after reviews and release, rather than pre-order like I do with the G1 line.

GoktimusPrime
28th January 2018, 09:21 PM
Handled someone else's MPM OP and it had the same problem with the shoulders. They do tab in but they don't lock firmly and very easily pop out of place. :o