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DELTAprime
30th March 2018, 12:11 PM
A leaked image of MPM prototypes appeared on Baidu and includes the unannounced but somewhat expected MPM VW Bumblebee.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/bumblebee-the-movie-masterpiece-movie-vw-beetle-bumblebee-prototype-figure-leaked/40982/

Shirokaze
30th March 2018, 02:27 PM
Oh this is intriguing! It probably should've clicked for me earlier, but I guess with this movie it means Volkswagen Group is over their fighting war robots on screen phobia. Can't wait to see what bot mode looks like.

FruitBuyer
30th March 2018, 02:28 PM
Oh this is intriguing! It probably should've clicked for me earlier, but I guess with this movie it means Volkswagen Group is over their fighting war robots on screen phobia. Can't wait to see what bot mode looks like.

Well there was the G1 MP Bumblebee

DELTAprime
30th March 2018, 04:52 PM
Oh this is intriguing! It probably should've clicked for me earlier, but I guess with this movie it means Volkswagen Group is over their fighting war robots on screen phobia. Can't wait to see what bot mode looks like.

Thing is it's never been the VW organisation as a whole, just the VW brand. We've had licensed Audis, Lambos, Bugattis, etc for some time.

The whole "war toys" thing probably has something to do with Hitler's role in the creation of the VW bug.

Shirokaze
30th March 2018, 11:33 PM
Well there was the G1 MP Bumblebee
Yeah, I vaguely remember talk about how even though they permitted the license for the figure that they still didn't want him represented on screen. Could be wrong but...


Thing is it's never been the VW organisation as a whole, just the VW brand. We've had licensed Audis, Lambos, Bugattis, etc for some time.

The whole "war toys" thing probably has something to do with Hitler's role in the creation of the VW bug.
Ohh good point!

Magnus
30th March 2018, 11:33 PM
Thing is it's never been the VW organisation as a whole, just the VW brand. We've had licensed Audis, Lambos, Bugattis, etc for some time.

The whole "war toys" thing probably has something to do with Hitler's role in the creation of the VW bug.

Have there been any sources confirming Volkswagen's position? The TF Wiki page on licensed vehicles (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Licensed_vehicle_alternate_modes) cites a TF Archive forum post (http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24622) wherein someone claimed to have contacted Porsche's licensing department and got the 'war machines' response, but they didn't cite VW. This article (http://www.collecticon.org/2013/06/transformers-porsche-volkswagen-nazis-and-world-war-ii-the-myth-that-keeps-on-mything/) claims that there was actually no solid information from Volkswagen either way, and that there isn't any evidence for the Volkswagen 'war toys' claim. This kind of reminds me of how

If Volkswagen really were initially opposed, they likely changed their minds after seeing that an association with the Transformers franchise was beneficial for General Motors and that other manufacturers (Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari) were jumping on board.

DELTAprime
31st March 2018, 08:51 PM
Have there been any sources confirming Volkswagen's position? The TF Wiki page on licensed vehicles (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Licensed_vehicle_alternate_modes) cites a TF Archive forum post (http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24622) wherein someone claimed to have contacted Porsche's licensing department and got the 'war machines' response, but they didn't cite VW. This article (http://www.collecticon.org/2013/06/transformers-porsche-volkswagen-nazis-and-world-war-ii-the-myth-that-keeps-on-mything/) claims that there was actually no solid information from Volkswagen either way, and that there isn't any evidence for the Volkswagen 'war toys' claim. This kind of reminds me of how

If Volkswagen really were initially opposed, they likely changed their minds after seeing that an association with the Transformers franchise was beneficial for General Motors and that other manufacturers (Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari) were jumping on board.

Wouldn't surprise me if Porsche were against it because of the "war toys" thing but I've always heard it in relation to VW. Porsche is incredibly stupid when it comes to their licensing. While other VW brands like Lamborghini will licence to practically anyone because they understand how important it is to get the brand in front of the public, Porsche on the other hand is highly selective and the cost of the license is very high.