MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron official pictures

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Plus development interview:

http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/column/interview/20180706

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[Paulbot]

Looks so amazing

Particularly

https://i.imgur.com/mLNg54i.jpg

[DELTAprime]

Looks like I'm eating like a uni student for the next 6 months.....

[Jetfire in the sky]

Looks like I'm eating like a uni student for the next 6 months.....

:D:D

Yeah, they have really gone to town with the detailing on this. Its like you're wasting money by NOT buying it.

I will get it, when, I don't know.... but this is next level MP stuff.

[philby]

That is absolutely stunning

[Autocon]

So is this the show accurate or toy accurate paint job? :p

[DELTAprime]

So is this the show accurate or toy accurate paint job? :p

Show. The original toy looks very different with a grey and green colour scheme.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Megatron_(BW)/toys

[Lord_Zed]

It's going to be really expensive, but it looks so good, can't resist. I feel like these Beast Wars MP's are pushing the envelope even more than some of the really cleaver G1 MP's we've seen of late.


Show. The original toy looks very different with a grey and green colour scheme.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Megatron_(BW)/toys

Of course we know that version of this toy will be out 6 months later.

[Shirokaze]

Pre-orders live on AmiAmi for Y26,670

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-040552&page=top

[Tober]

Preoders are open on HLJ. ( Thanks TinyJazz )

https://hlj.com/product/TKT10926

There are some posed pics with MP BW Convoy as well.

[bowspearer]

Never thought I'd say this, but that price made me feel sick. $356 (which may not even include GST) is a bridge too far. I'll get this thing only if it shelfwarms and the price gets the guts slashed out of it on HLJ.

[DELTAprime]

TLTC's preorder is up. $389. No matter where I get him from I'm going to be having to budget carefully to afford him.

https://www.thelittletoycompany.com.au/transformers-preorders/transformers-takara-tomy-mp-43-masterpiece-megatron-beast-wars-pre-order

[Shirokaze]

Never thought I'd say this, but that price made me feel sick. $356 (which may not even include GST) is a bridge too far. I'll get this thing only if it shelfwarms and the price gets the guts slashed out of it on HLJ.

$353.32 including gst at current rate plus post.

Seems fine, I won't be losing any sleep over it.

[DELTAprime]

$353.32 including gst at current rate plus post.

Seems fine, I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Are you sure that includes GST? I can't see anything that says GST included on that page.

[Shirokaze]

Are you sure that includes GST? I can't see anything that says GST included on that page.

Sorry Delta, I should have clarified - Y26670 + 10% = Y29337 / exchange rate of 83 = Around A$353

[DELTAprime]

Ok, so does AmiAmi charge up front or upon release? I've never used these guys.

[griffin]

Sorry Delta, I should have clarified - Y26670 + 10% = Y29337 / exchange rate of 83 = Around A$353


Just remember that the official exchange rate is mid-way between the two actual exchange rates used by financial institutions (about 2-4% on each side of the official rate)... so if you are using a Credit Card, it would end up being around AU$370.
Shipping on top of that will probably top $400 if sent on its own... and that's from the site that is likely to be the cheapest option.
HLJ looks like it will be about AU$400 (with GST) before shipping. :(

[DELTAprime]

Not to mention that is based on today's exchange rate. We have no idea where it will be in January. But I'm thinking I might try AmiAmi with their price.

[nsm034]

$311 at AE without gst and shipping

[Shirokaze]

Just remember that the official exchange rate is mid-way between the two actual exchange rates used by financial institutions (about 2-4% on each side of the official rate)... so if you are using a Credit Card, it would end up being around AU$370.
Shipping on top of that will probably top $400 if sent on its own... and that's from the site that is likely to be the cheapest option.
HLJ looks like it will be about AU$400 (with GST) before shipping. :(

Fair point!

As a side note, now that we're all getting slapped with GST, I would encourage anyone who hasn't already to sign up for one of the Citibank international conversion fee-free debit cards. Claw back some of those few precious dollars!

[DaptoDog]

As a side note, now that we're all getting slapped with GST, I would encourage anyone who hasn't already to sign up for one of the Citibank international conversion fee-free debit cards. Claw back some of those few precious dollars!

I second this, I've got one too. Just have to make sure you have enough funds sitting there for when you are ready to pull the trigger on a purchase.

[drifand]

Citibank declines Pc chargeback and refused to entertain my friend. I suggest you guys consider properly. And yes within time frame limits and he is going through financial ombudsman

[Shirokaze]

Citibank declines Pc chargeback and refused to entertain my friend. I suggest you guys consider properly. And yes within time frame limits and he is going through financial ombudsman

Register it to and pay with a Paypal account. Double the chance of protection. :p

[Magnus]

I get the feeling that the size and the paint job, rather than complexity or part count, are the big drivers of the price in this instance. Look at the size difference between Megatron and Optimus Primal in the headline photo: http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/07/09/mp-43-beast-wars-megatron-more-official-images-and-mp-32-primal-reissue-367038#more-367038

[Jetfire in the sky]

Register it to and pay with a Paypal account. Double the chance of protection. :p


I tried double protection once. :D:D

[drifand]

Except anything after six months if you do pay now , you be screwed.
Trust me, Paypal is not as innocent as everyone thinks.

[Galvatran]

Citibank declines Pc chargeback and refused to entertain my friend.
Nowhere in their Product Disclosure Statement does it mention an offer of a lap dance or anything of that nature.

[doublespy]

Man the extra GST makes the price just that much more difficult to justify..

Aaaaaand pre-ordered from amiami.:(

[hYpNoS]

Went with hlj just to save on shipping cost.

Gonna have to really consider my pre-orders carefully, thanks gst

[Autocon]

How much is the gst on a figure like this?

[hYpNoS]

How much is the gst on a figure like this?

Just add 10% to whatever the asking price is of said site shows.

All retailers that comply show the initial price, only during payment phases will they show the added gst value

[FruitBuyer]

Bloody hell, that price. I'd sooner get FlameToys Tarn before this

[Galvatran]

Spread the cost. Skipping one cup of coffee during the work day through to the end of the year will provide the savings + some $$ to spare.

Then again, having a cup of coffee while skipping is asking for trouble...

[Jellico]

Cut back on the smashed avocado.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Looks like Entertainment Earth is going to release MP-43:

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/transformers-masterpiece-edition-mp43-beast-wars-megatron/hse4006

RRP is US$319.99.

[griffin]

Looks like Entertainment Earth is going to release MP-43:

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/transformers-masterpiece-edition-mp43-beast-wars-megatron/hse4006

RRP is US$319.99.


Ouch... and we thought it was going to be bad for us to get it from some Japanese sites for just under AU$400. That's over AU$450. It would be cheaper for Americans to import it.

[griffin]

TakaraTomy have put up a 360 degree look (https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-43) at Beast Megatron in both modes, and some screenshots have been posted here (http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/08/08/takara-tomy-masterpiece-mp-40-beast-wars-megatron-360-view-369807) if you can't get it to work on your device.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

At Tokyo Comic Con 2018 (https://tformers.com/tokyo-comic-con-2018-transformers-masterpiece-display-with-mp-44-convoy-30-beast-wars-megatron-and-more/34464/news.html):

https://i.imgur.com/EbzgiGR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3bFcKRa.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/oReK80L.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/4REyncL.jpg

[micfox001]

Why no one took a close shot on the MP Optimus prime-3.0's price tag in the above pictures?

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Why no one took a close shot on the MP Optimus prime-3.0's price tag in the above pictures?

The insanity of the price would've cracked the lens... :p

Prime's price is not listed on the card but it is on the promo leaflet:

https://i.imgur.com/U5OSWR7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/HU6eRgZ.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

No coin for MP-43 (https://www.facebook.com/168147899870600/posts/2196767883675248/):


Cancellations of MP-43 and MP-20+ exclusives Coins

Dear customers,

Hasbro suddenly informed us that the following items does not come with exclusive coins.

Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp43.html

Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-20+ Wheeljack with Exclusive Coin.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp20plus.html

Please email to info@robotkingdom.com for any enquiry.

Thank you very much.

Robotkingdom Crew

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Why no one took a close shot on the MP Optimus prime-3.0's price tag in the above pictures?

There is no price listed

[DELTAprime]

Amazon JP is saying Megatron is delayed. :(

http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/11/30/masterpiece-mp-43-beast-wars-megatron-delayed-377859

[griffin]

Some people will be happy to have another two months to save up for it (if they didn't pre-pay their pre-order). Release date is now either the last week of March or first week of April.


I wonder why the coins were cancelled again. They stopped for a while, then started up again a few months ago... and now gone again. Surely the profit margin on the new MPs would easily cover it. (it was also the incentive to westerners to buy from Asian sources instead of Japanese sources, as the bonus items and coins were from Hasbro in HK for the more expensive TakaraTomy toys)

[1AZRAEL1]

I need to order one, but need to save for it too

[Shirokaze]

Will be happy to move an expensive purchase further from the holiday period :) Must've needed extra time to fill the number of preorders :p

[DELTAprime]

I got an email from AmiAmi today confirming that the date is being moved and they will update my order as soon as possible.

[Trent]

So no one is talking about how this is being released this month? Nippon Yasan have been hassling me for payment saying it’ll be in stock soon.

[Sinnertwin]

So no one is talking about how this is being released this month? Nippon Yasan have been hassling me for payment saying it’ll be in stock soon.

I was hoping if I closed my eyes the price tag and charges would go away.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Me too excited at him arriving, scared for the damage to my wallet....

[DELTAprime]

I haven't heard anything from AmiAmi about Megatron for a couple of months. I'm getting really anxious now. I love everything I've seen of him.

[doublespy]

That 10% extra GST stings most on a big purchase like this.....:(

[Shirokaze]

I haven't heard anything from AmiAmi about Megatron for a couple of months. I'm getting really anxious now. I love everything I've seen of him.

I wouldn't worry too much, Amiami only asks for payment once they have the product in hand. Nippon Yassan asks for it at a random time anywhere up to 2 weeks before when they think they'll have it.

[Tober]

Don't Takara Masterpieces usually get released on the last Saturday of the month? :confused: If so, it's still a week away.

[Sinnertwin]

HLJ hit me up for Megs today.
Keep an eye out for your retailer to have him in stock soon

[DELTAprime]

I guess I can expect a massive bill from AmiAmi tomorrow.

How much is HLJ charging for EMS on him?

[Tober]

I guess I can expect a massive bill from AmiAmi tomorrow.

How much is HLJ charging for EMS on him?

About $56 inc GST.

Amiami tend to have better shipping options using DHL now, somehow...

[DELTAprime]

Wow, total after Paypal conversion and GST for me was $452. AmiAmi changed my shipping method to DHL as it was cheaper. I'm now having second thoughts on Convoy V3.:eek:

[Trent]

Wow, total after Paypal conversion and GST for me was $452. AmiAmi changed my shipping method to DHL as it was cheaper. I'm now having second thoughts on Convoy V3.:eek:

That’s a bit steep. I paid $375 shipped from NY

[DaptoDog]

Wow, total after Paypal conversion and GST for me was $452. AmiAmi changed my shipping method to DHL as it was cheaper. I'm now having second thoughts on Convoy V3.:eek:


That’s a bit steep. I paid $375 shipped from NY

Yep Nippon-Yasan doesn't charge GST. I'm surprised AmiAmi is. I ordered mine from Nippon-Yasan along with a couple MP-20+ Wheeljacks.

[1AZRAEL1]

Reports of fragility with some of the plastic. Doesn't bode well.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/reports-of-breakage-and-easy-stressing-for-masterpiece-mp43-beast-wars-megatron/43157/

[Trent]

Reports of fragility with some of the plastic. Doesn't bode well.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/reports-of-breakage-and-easy-stressing-for-masterpiece-mp43-beast-wars-megatron/43157/

Well that’s disappointing. There shouldn’t really be any excuses for that.

[1AZRAEL1]

For such an expensive figure, if mine breaks whilst breathing on it, I'll be annoyed.

[drifand]

Have a good read before you attemp the transformation.

But that should not be happening. This is the second time on a bw masterpiece and an expensive one.

[1AZRAEL1]

I usually watch someone's reviews to see how to transform it and they usually give a heads up on trouble areas.

[Raider]

I'm just going to hold out hop it is a one off by an idiot who was far too rough with the transformation. If that turns out not to be the case, well in the box you stay Megs!

[griffin]

Some in-hand images of Megatron in both modes (https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/03/27/transformers-masterpiece-mp-43-beast-wars-megatron-in-hand-images-386103).

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I'm just going to hold out hop it is a one off by an idiot who was far too rough with the transformation. If that turns out not to be the case, well in the box you stay Megs!

Kurdt got his yesterday and he says that careful attention is required and that the waist pull is VERY tight, however, following the instructions and g\taking it easy until you get a feel for it results in no problems.

[Sinnertwin]

I'm just going to hold out hop it is a one off by an idiot who was far too rough with the transformation. If that turns out not to be the case, well in the box you stay Megs!


This sort of thing in the fandom snaps me. It was one bloke. There aren't multiple people reporting the same thing. If 50 people report it, sure, it's definitely a QC issue. If only one person reports it, it's a combination of bad luck and/or rough housing. Then people get carried away on the poor QC bandwagon blah blah blah

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Non-English video reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6q1fYXafrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voc5w2IH-oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNukGOgtgI

[DELTAprime]

I just got mine. I'm not opening the clamshell yet because of the breakage issues. Has anyone got a translation of the warnings?

[Trent]

I just got mine. I'm not opening the clamshell yet because of the breakage issues. Has anyone got a translation of the warnings?

I just used google translate

[DELTAprime]

Ok, well I just transformed him with the help of YouTube.

My takeaway is that if you are applying anything more than the most minimal of force to clip his back together you haven't got everything positioned correctly and you should stop trying to force it before you break it and go back a couple of steps. If you have it done correctly there should be very little pressure holding that backpack in place.

But that waist joint is going to be easily broken if people don't apply pressure correctly especially given how incredibly tight mine was.

[Tha_Phantom]

Ben of Ben's Collectables says his hasn't had so much as a stress mark and he isn't super careful either. Either the QC might be hit or miss, or some people are just really careless.

(skip to the 9:45 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6eqW_vj9c

[bowspearer]

This sort of thing in the fandom snaps me. It was one bloke. There aren't multiple people reporting the same thing. If 50 people report it, sure, it's definitely a QC issue. If only one person reports it, it's a combination of bad luck and/or rough housing. Then people get carried away on the poor QC bandwagon blah blah blah

Actually from a value perspective, those issues are entirely reasonable. The fact is that it started with Dinobot, but now we're well and truly at a point where the value isn't there as much on MPs from MP-43 onwards, that was there in the past - with Dinobot again, being right on that demarcation line. When the value is there, people tend to be a lot more forgiving with things, however the public perception with these newer releases has been largely that people are essentially getting the exact same thing, but paying a lot more for it. When that happens, the usual argument is along the lines of "it better be made out of gold at that price" or something to that effect. Just look how divisive an issue the price hikes have been in the fandom. Naturally, people are going to expect the build quality to be a lot better when they pay a lot more; you're more likely to have people saying "see, there are problems" when problems surface, than "it's just one figure" when the value drops - especially if the price dramatically goes up in the process.

This is why I genuinely believe that the MP line is in the throes of a slow death. It used to be the Classics audience saying "too rich for my blood". Now the price jumps have turned off people who were once avid MP collectors. The next price jump will be a jumping off point for even more people, until eventually the exodus reaches critical mass and the entire line implodes due to lack of demand. At the same time people are going to be less forgiving who are on the cusp of jumping off and so QC issues can be the push which causes them to jump off prior to the next price hike which would have done it.

At the same time, you have figures like Siege Ironhide (ie the forearms) and Siege Jetfire (ie head hatch, hands, etc) which are incorporating Masterpiece level engineering into the transformations, which again, erodes the value of Masterpiece figures again, this time from a bottom up perspetive.

I sympathise that this is the result of Takaratomy drowning and scrambling to stay afloat - in part due to the loss of the Pokemon license, but I really don't see this ending well - I give it maybe 5 years.

[Sinnertwin]

The fandom is being ridiculously sensitive to one person breaking a newly released figure.
Old mate either got a dud (which happens irrespective of the line) or used excessive force.
I'll wait until I see 49 more cases of broken MP43's in the same places before commenting any further in regards to QC.

[Tha_Phantom]

The fandom is being ridiculously sensitive to one person breaking a newly released figure.
Old mate either got a dud (which happens irrespective of the line) or used excessive force.
I'll wait until I see 49 more cases of broken MP43's in the same places before commenting any further in regards to QC.

How dare you react rationally.

[bowspearer]

The fandom is being ridiculously sensitive to one person breaking a newly released figure.
Old mate either got a dud (which happens irrespective of the line) or used excessive force.
I'll wait until I see 49 more cases of broken MP43's in the same places before commenting any further in regards to QC.

That's your subjective opinion; you're clearly still at a point where the value is still there for the Masterpiece line and so naturally you're going to be a lot more forgiving and even defensive of it. That's entirely your prerogative and it's neither right or wrong in and of itself.

However the same is equally true of those for whom the value is no longer there. Because the value has lowered on this line, that means that the closer people get to the threshold of the jumping off point, the less forgiving they're going to be.

Value is always subjective and how you perceive as value will always be different to how others perceive value.

You said that the fandom is being "ridiculously sensitive", but as a hypothetical, let's pretend for a minute that the figure cost 3 times what it did at HLJ; let's pretend in this hypothetical situation that the figure didn't cost $373, but rather $1119. Are you saying if you were "still in" in terms of buying Masterpiece figures at that point, that your expectations wouldn't automatically be higher than they are for the figure at the $373 price-point? Are you saying you wouldn't be less forgiving with issues - particularly QC issues - with the figure if it cost $119 than it costing $373? If your answer to both would be "no", I would find that incredibly hard to believe.

Likewise, $373 for large Masterpiece figures might endear itself to a lot of leeway and forgiveness to you, but "to you" is the operative term here.

If I were a multi-billionaire for example, buying houses might be as insignificant for me as buying a cup of coffee is to the average person; for the average person, they could never dream of experiencing that.

Likewise, while your ceiling in terms of a "walkaway point" might be much higher than $373 here, for others, it's right on the boundaries of it - for others, it's well and truly in "too rich for my blood" territory.

The big problem here has been that to say how the price hike has been handled by TT hasn't been the best is a massive understatement.

When the Masterpiece line's performance was flailing, there was the 2.0 reboot which was a smashing success as we're all aware. Excluding exclusives, and taking it from MP-12 to really give some leeway here (although an argument could be made to take it from MP-10 if you wanted to be strictly accurate), that's 29 mainstream releases at a certain price point, engineering and quality expectation in the space of over half a decade. Overall, people have generally been incredibly happy with it.

The problem was what followed; whether it's staples or luxuries, people generally don't like being in a situation where they have a reasonable perception that they're paying more for less - especially when they have an emotional investment in that product. Unfortunately, Takara Tomy simply haven't done enough or approached things in the right way to offset the negative emotions. Don't get me wrong, in the case of MP-44, they've hyped the hell out of it in a reactive move, but I don't think that was the answer.

The upshot of it is that while there are certainly a core group of people who's "jumping off" point is high enough that the price hike has had a minimal impact on how forgiving they are, on the other end of the spectrum are those who are now at that point and have walked away.

In between those you have people who aren't quite at that point yet, but things are close enough to it that their tolerance for issues is all but non-existent. The growth of their patience with issues with the leeway they give the line is inversely proportional to the perceived lowering in value. In fact if the figure was in the mid $200s, I'd almost put money on many of those same voices being a lot more forgiving with issues.

If people are happy paying the higher prices and enjoying what they're getting then more power to them and I'm personally glad they're falling in love with their new figures; it's what you'd expect as the norm when someone buys a luxury item like a premium figure.

However complaining about people complaining, because you see the value here and they don't is simply the counterpart to people who don't see the value in these figures insulting the intelligence of those who bought it, because they don't see the value in the Masterpiece line at this price point.

[Sinnertwin]

I'll be honest, I just scrolled past that huge sea of text.
I'm sure you had some valid points, shame I'm not in the headspace to read it all and continue my discussion with you.

[Tha_Phantom]

Anyway, back on topic. Can't wait to get this beast in a couple of weeks. The deco and attention to detail is just astounding!

[1AZRAEL1]

Where's the like button? (Sinner you cracketh me up :p)

I'll enjoy mine whenever I manage to get one. He'll look glorious on my shelves.

[Trent]

And yet I, who think that anyone that pays full price for the modern CHUG lines basically has rocks in their head, am perfectly happy with my MP-43 and think it’s a great figure for the price.

[Lord_Zed]

And yet I, who think that anyone that pays full price for the modern CHUG lines basically has rocks in their head, am perfectly happy with my MP-43 and think it’s a great figure for the price.

Well I don't really collect CHUG anymore either, however to my mind all collectors are crazy, myself most definitely included. We are all spending money on toys. Sure some may spend less, some may spend more, some may only collect only this line, other that line or everything, it doesn't matter we are still buying silly things we don't need. Sure it gives us pleasure and we can justify it however we want but it's still pretty ridiculous.

[bowspearer]

I'll be honest, I just scrolled past that huge sea of text.

Tl;dr has never been and will never be a valid rebuttal.

[bowspearer]

Well I don't really collect CHUG anymore either, however to my mind all collectors are crazy, myself most definitely included. We are all spending money on toys. Sure some may spend less, some may spend more, some may only collect only this line, other that line or everything, it doesn't matter we are still buying silly things we don't need. Sure it gives us pleasure and we can justify it however we want but it's still pretty ridiculous.

That's just it, value and tastes are completely subjective, however it's also pretty shortsighted to ignore the fact that going 29 mainstream Masterpieces in a row if you take it from Lambor (31 if you take it from MP-10) and then having the massive price jump has affected people's perceptions of value; the fact is that you've now either got people who have completely walked away or are on the verge of it. You'll most likely find that those being far less forgiving with QC issues are those who are on the verge of walking away.

You can argue that people shouldn't be emotionally attached, but that would be pretty shortsighted. You're talking about a product line which is deliberately marketed by playing on the nostalgia factor, which is in turn compounded by the fact that that nostalgia comes from an emotional attachment which has its roots in marketing campaigns which were combined with modern mythology and deliberately intended to create emotional attachments to these characters, and by extension, any and all physical manifestations of them to varying degrees.

The fact is that the outrage is a predictable byproduct of not only that marketing campaign, but the predictable consumer reaction that comes from companies being perceived to charge more for either the same thing or less of it.

Meanwhile everyone's concept of value and disposable income is going to be different, which is going to predictably affect their jump off points and how forgiving they are when price shifts like this happen.

At the end of the day though, there is no "wrong" or "ridiculously sensitive" reaction here.

The people who see the new prices as a rip-off could call those who still think it's good value shills, fools, idiots etc, while those who think it's great value could equally call those who feel there's too little value whiners, ridiculously sensitive, fanboys etc.

A case could be made for each extreme but to what end?

If you love MP-43 so much, then what does it matter if someone doesn't see the value or has unforgiving QC standards? How do their issues ake your enjoyment any less valid?

Likewise, if you think MP-43 is a rip-off of that the QC issues are unacceptable given the price rise, then how does someone thinking it's great value and loving the figure affect you personally? How does their enjoyment make your issues any less valid?

Why can't people take a mature and rational approach to this issue, recognise that value is subjective, the price rise is divisive, that there will be a range of opinions on it and live and let live?

[Raider]

Tl;dr has never been and will never be a valid rebuttal.

Actually it is. It points out that if a response is not concise and to the point, no matter its content, it may be overlooked and disregarded. Most people will not spend the time reading a wall of text so an effective argument needs brevity.

NB I read the quoted post but not the one after. https://i.imgur.com/XYeOIBU.jpg

Back on topic, any other members have in hand yet? Thoughts?

[DaptoDog]

Ok I'll try to break the cycle. My MP-43 has shipped along with MP-20+ Wheeljack from Nippon-Yasan.

Mine will stay in the box since I only collect the BW ones to give to my son later on. :cool:

[Trent]

And in keeping in the spirit of the thread, I got my Megs a few days ago and it is glorious!

My feelings summed up pretty appropriately here (https://youtu.be/E2t4MBhGAg8)

[The Letter M]

Mine arrived earlier this week. Despite being nervous about it shattering into a million plastically pieces, it was fairly easy to transform even if it did require being "firm" with it. Very happy. It looks fantastic.

[Tha_Phantom]

You're all making me jelly. :p

https://i.ibb.co/rdD933n/megatron.jpg (https://ibb.co/5KbZkkq)

[Wormz]

Mine is still coming.. I don't think I have been this excited to receive a transformer in a long time.. For me beast wars was a huge part of my childhood and although I find myself skipping a lot of the more recent MPs due to either price or lack of interest, The Beast wars have really gotten me bank into the MP line.. If the engineering keep going the direction it then I can only get more keen haha

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Back on topic, any other members have in hand yet? Thoughts?

Yes. He's absolutely magnificent and beautiful. I love him. The only way it could be better would be if it had David Kaye's sexy voice coming out of instead of some Japanese dude's voice.

To counter this, I leave the sound option on the Pew Pew pew

[Raider]

Yes. He's absolutely magnificent and beautiful. I love him. The only way it could be better would be if it had David Kaye's sexy voice coming out of instead of some Japanese dude's voice.

To counter this, I leave the sound option on the Pew Pew pew

Perhaps I third party will provide a kit for such a mod. Thanks for the feedback. Looking forward to getting mine :D

[Shirokaze]

Mine arrived today. He's not that fragile, just don't tug on bits of the shell without knowing which way they go. The internet overreacts again :p

Also TL;DR is a valid argument.

[DaptoDog]

I hate to say it but crotchgate has struck. The story has everything that would make a collector cringe, swirly plastic, gold plastic syndrome etc...

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-reports-of-broken-crotches-on-the-300-masterpiece-mp43-beast-wars-megatron-figure/43188/

[BigTransformerTrev]

I hate to say it but crotchgate has struck. The story has everything that would make a collector cringe, swirly plastic, gold plastic syndrome etc...

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-reports-of-broken-crotches-on-the-300-masterpiece-mp43-beast-wars-megatron-figure/43188/

I knew this would happen. I totally KNEW this would happen. But did anyone listen? No. It’s exactly 100% why I didn’t buy the figure.

It’s why I stuck with my Robot Heroes BW Megatron. Not only does he scale appropriately with my G1 MPs (and the whole idea these days is that the figures shoud be in approximate scale to each other like they were represented in the cartoons) but I’ve had it well over 10 years and his crotch is as hard as ever.

[Chewbs]

Just checked mine and found a small hairline crack on the crotch :(

[Tha_Phantom]

That lack of Pokemon license has taken its toll. :eek:

When I get mine I'll loosen the screws around that area and see if that makes a difference. I can't not transform the thing, it's against my religion. I'll just have to be super careful.

[DELTAprime]

Ok, well I guess my MP43 can join my vintage Optimal Optimus as a GPS figure in my collection with zero breakage.

Takara doesn't seem to be having much luck with their super expensive toys. God Fire Convoy was so bad he was recalled. Dinobot had breakage on his shoulders. Now Megatron has GPS, an issue Hasbro said they resolved about a decade ago.

Fingers crossed that MP44 turns out fine.

[hYpNoS]

To those who got their megatron's who have YET to get a crack.

Anyone willing to loosen the screws near the crotch to see if that avoids the cracks, otherwise mine will remain in t-rex mode to avoid being a crotch-rex until I can display him in all his glory

[drifand]

Anyone still want to justify this isn't an issue band wagon?

I think we can be all reasonable here, The issue was the design of how the centre piece was holding this figure and you need a consider amount of effort to release to perform the transformation.

IMO it looks great, but the design certainly could be better.
I hope Mp-44 is done properly as thats really a huge sum of money.

There isn't much point arguing over the current issue, but we should know and take precaution when playing this figure.

[Tha_Phantom]

Saw this and had to share. :p
https://i.ibb.co/q19X5kM/56732756-427993031079563-3016195445664776192-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/Ky7RwFj)

[doublespy]

I've had him for a couple of days and am still trying to form a fully objective opinion on him.

After multiple transformations, my crotch..I mean Megatron's crotch still looks okay with no sign of cracking, and loosening the screw to make the thigh ratchets looser would help I assume if you're concerned. However mine has a loose waist, and it could've definitely been a better design than merely a pinned mushroom peg/socket. The main back panel hinge where everyone's has stress marks, could've maybe been done in a slightly different way; but after the whole transformation process had sunk in in my head, I can start to see why they went this way, so the pinned hinge is almost strong enough to hold half of the folded dino skin backpack in place by friction alone. Don't think the stress mark will worsen if you apply force at the right place when moving the high.

I'm actually more bummed by the lack of thigh articulation in T-rex mode than anything else. The dino mode sculpt is so expressive it just begs for more leg articulation. Megs just feels that much easier to work in that articulation than Dinobot.

Subjectively he's very impressive in accuracy and I'm thrilled to have him. Would've paid any kind of money, just so that TT can keep going with this line. But even without taking into consideration a couple of questionable design choices, he's still a bit underwhelming to me as an MP transformer. Maybe in part it's because it came out after Dinobot. Then you factor in the design issues, and the price, objectively I can see he's not a great buy at all for a lot of people.

I'll maybe do a full write-up after I've had more time with him.

[1AZRAEL1]

Back on topic...

I can't wait to get my figure whenever that may be

[hYpNoS]

Back on topic...

I can't wait to get my figure whenever that may be

This response worries me, LTC ?

HLJ is beeping me for another large shipment so mine is inbound within the next 2 weeks

[1AZRAEL1]

This response worries me, LTC ?

HLJ is beeping me for another large shipment so mine is inbound within the next 2 weeks

Nah I haven't personally ordered one. But I believe my friend did for me :)

[hYpNoS]

Nah I haven't personally ordered one. But I believe my friend did for me :)
Oh nice nice, and here I am thinking if hlj will let me wait the whole 60 days before I hit MAIL so I can line it up with my next paycheck lol