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Dan
2nd December 2018, 02:15 AM
On a whim I decided to run an opinion poll on favourite Transformers G1 toys according to the categories given them in catalogues (using this site as a reference and preferring the catalogues we had in Australia: http://botchthecrab.com/gallery.asp?gallery=10).
I’m limiting this to the first four years (looking at the 1988 catalogue hurts my brain) but if you can manage it feel free to extend (or alter) this in your responses.
I’m also limiting it only to categories of multiple toys, so the likes of Prime or Megatron are absent. And I’m treating a purchase as the unit, so cassettes have to come in pairs.
The intent of this is that you choose favourite toys in the year they debut. However, as there was a lot of continuation of toys into following years, you can take advantage of that. If, for instance, you most love the first three Seekers, then you could choose Skywarp for 1984, Thundercracker for 1985, and the ghost of Starscream for 1986. :)
And, because there were so many of them, you can choose your favourite two 1984 Autobot Cars.
Finally, if you cannot chose a best toy in a category, go the other way and choose a worst one. I for instance, cannot pick between Springer and Sandstorm, but Broadside is definitely the worst Autobot Triple-Changer. :p
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Best Two (2) Autobot Cars (1984):
Best Autobot Car (1985):
Best Autobot Car (1986):
Best Targetmaster Autobot Car (1987):
Best Headmaster Autobot * (1987):
Best Autobot Deluxe Vehicle (1985):
Best Autobot Triple-Changer (1986):
Best Jumpstarter (1985):
Best Autobot Mini-Car (1984):
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1985):
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1986):
Best Throttlebot (1987):
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1986):
Best Aerialbot (1986):
Best Protectobot (1986):
Best Technobot (1987):
Best Dinobot (1985):
Best Monsterbot (1987):
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Best Decepticon Plane (1984):
Best Decepticon Plane (1985):
Best Decepticon Plane (1986):
Best Targetmaster Decepticon Plane (1987):
Best Headmaster Decepticon * (1987):
Best Headmaster Horrorcon * (1987):
Best Decepticon Triple-Changer (1985 and 1986):
Best Duocon (1987):
Best Battlecharger (1986):
Best Stunticon (1986):
Best Combaticon (1986):
Best Terrorcon (1987):
Best Predacon (1986):
Best Insecticon (1985):
Best Deluxe Insecticon (1985):
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1984):
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987):
Best Constructicon (1985):
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* Excludes Headmaster Base
Sorry if the ordering is a bit odd. I felt this would assist in decision-making but admit it’s a little idiosyncratic.
GoktimusPrime
2nd December 2018, 11:35 AM
Gah... need to rearrange in chronological order...
Best Two (2) Autobot Cars (1984): Bluestreak & Mirage
Best Autobot Mini-Car (1984): Windcharger
Best Autobot Car (1985): Inferno
Best Autobot Deluxe Vehicle (1985): Whirl
Best Dinobot (1985): Snarl
Best Jumpstarter (1985): Topspin
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1985): Beachcomber
Best Autobot Car (1986): Hot Rod
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1986): Ramhorn & Eject
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1986): Hubcap
Best Autobot Triple-Changer (1986): Springer
Best Aerialbot (1986): Slingshot
Best Protectobot (1986): Hot Spot
Best Targetmaster Autobot Car (1987): Pointblank
Best Headmaster Autobot * (1987): Hardhead
Best Throttlebot (1987): Rollbar
Best Technobot (1987): Afterburner
Best Monsterbot (1987): Grotusque
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1987): Dile and Saur
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Best Decepticon Plane (1984): Thundercracker
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1984): Frenzy and Laserbeak
Best Decepticon Plane (1985): Ramjet
Best Constructicon (1985): Long Haul
Best Insecticon (1985): Shrapnel
Best Deluxe Insecticon (1985): Barrage
Best Decepticon Triple-Changer (1985 and 1986): Blitzwing
Best Decepticon Plane (1986): Cyclonus
Best Battlecharger (1986): Runamuck
Best Combaticon (1986): Swindle
Best Stunticon (1986): Breakdown
Best Predacon (1986): Divebomb
Best Targetmaster Decepticon Plane (1987): Triggerhappy
Best Headmaster Decepticon * (1987): Mindwipe
Best Headmaster Horrorcon * (1987): Snapdragon
Best Duocon (1987): Battletrap
Best Terrorcon (1987): Hun-Grrr
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987): Overkill and Slugfest
Paulbot
2nd December 2018, 03:25 PM
Ordering is fine Dan, easy to do and does assist in decision-making.
Best Two (2) Autobot Cars (1984): Sideswipe and Prowl
Best Autobot Car (1985): Inferno
Best Autobot Car (1986): Hot Rod
Best Targetmaster Autobot Car (1987): Sureshot
Best Headmaster Autobot * (1987): Highbrow
Best Autobot Deluxe Vehicle (1985): Whirl
Best Autobot Triple-Changer (1986): Sandstorm
Best Jumpstarter (1985): Topspin
Best Autobot Mini-Car (1984): Bumblebee
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1985): Powerglide
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1986): Swerve
Best Throttlebot (1987): Chase
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1986): Eject and Ramhorn
Best Aerialbot (1986): Air Raid
Best Protectobot (1986): First Aid
Best Technobot (1987): Afterburner
Best Dinobot (1985): Grimlock
Best Monsterbot (1987): Grotusque
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Best Decepticon Plane (1984): Skywarp
Best Decepticon Plane (1985): Dirge
Best Decepticon Plane (1986): Cyclonus
Best Targetmaster Decepticon Plane (1987): Slugslinger
Best Headmaster Decepticon * (1987): Skullcruncher
Best Headmaster Horrorcon * (1987): Snapdragon
Best Decepticon Triple-Changer (1985 and 1986): Astrotrain
Best Duocon (1987): Flywheels
Best Battlecharger (1986): Runabout
Best Stunticon (1986): Breakdown
Best Combaticon (1986): Brawl
Best Terrorcon (1987): Sinnertwin
Best Predacon (1986): Divebomb
Best Insecticon (1985): Kickback
Best Deluxe Insecticon (1985): Barrage
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1984): Rumble and Ravage
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987): Frenzy and Ratbat
Best Constructicon (1985): Bonecrusher
GoktimusPrime
2nd December 2018, 09:37 PM
Some categories left out from before...
Best Omnibot (1985): Overdrive
Best Powerdasher (1985): "Drilldasher"
Best Time Warrior (1985): Time Warrior
Best Reflector (1986): Spectro
Okay, let's do the rest of Hasbro G1...
Best Autobot Power other than Optimus Prime (1988): Getaway
Best Autobot Headmaster (1988): Nightbeat
Best Autobot Targetmaster (1988): Scoop
Best Autobot Pretender (1988): Gunrunner^Landmine
Best Triggerbot (1988): Backstreet
Best Sparkabot (1988): Fizzle
Best Pair of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1988): Grand Slam and Raindance
Best Decepticon Powermaster (1988): Dreadwind
Best Decepticon Headmaster (1988): Fangry
Best Decepticon Targetmaster (1988): Quake
Best Decepticon Pretender (1988): Submarauder
Best Triggercon (1988): Windsweeper
Best Firecon (1988): None of them. Oh, okay... Flamefeather.
Best Pair of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1988): Beastbox and Squawktalk
Best Targetmaster Seacon (1988): Nautilator
Best Autobot Pretender (1989): Bumblebee
Best Autobot Micromaster (1989): Swindler
Best Decepticon Pretender (1989): Bludgeon
Best Monster Pretender (1989): Wildfly
Best Decepticon Micromaster (1989): Whisper
Best Autobot Action Master (1990): None of them^Optimus Prime
Best Autobot Micromaster (1990): Sky High
Best Decepticon Action Master (1990): Devastator
Best Decepticon Micromaster (1990): Barricade
Best Autobot Action Master (1991): Sideswipe
Best Autobot Motorvator (1991): Gripper
Best Decepticon Action Master (1991): Thundercracker
Best Autobot Turbomaster other than Thunder Clash (1992): Hurricane
Best Autobot Rescue Force (1992): Rescue Force 2 ("Jallguar")
Best Decepticon Predator other than Skyquake (1992): Talon
Best Constructicon (1992): "Bonecrusher"
Best Autobot/Decepticon Obliterator (1993): Clench
Best Autobot Lightformer (1993): Deftwing
Best Autobot Aquaspeeder (1993): Jetstorm
Best Autobot Axelerator (1993): Skram
Best Decepticon Trakkon (1993): Calcar
Best Decepticon Skyscorcher (1993): Tornado
Best Decepticon Stormtrooper (1993): Drench
TaZZerath
4th December 2018, 04:57 PM
Best Lister of Extending On an Existing Best Transformers By Year And Category (2018): Goktimus Prime
In all seriousness these lists are actually fantastic reference material and gives me some good tfwiki reading when I'm bored :)
Dan
4th December 2018, 05:08 PM
Ordering is fine Dan, easy to do and does assist in decision-making.
There are plenty of ways of mentally sorting things and I guess this worked for two of us. :)
Some categories left out from before...
Thanks for expanding into mail order and later catalogues. It drives home just how much variety there was, even back then.
In all seriousness these lists are actually fantastic reference material and gives me some good tfwiki reading when I'm bored :)
I agree. There are kinds of TF I’m barely aware of, worth delving into.
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I should decide on my own responses soon, and might be influenced by the choices of others…
Dan
5th December 2018, 07:46 PM
Best Two (2) Autobot Cars (1984): Mirage and Hound
Best Autobot Car (1985): Tracks
Best Autobot Car (1986): Hot Rod
Best Targetmaster Autobot Car (1987): Sureshot
Best Headmaster Autobot (1987): Hardhead
Best Autobot Deluxe Vehicle (1985): Whirl
Worst Autobot Triple-Changer (1986): Broadside
Best Jumpstarter (1985): Twin Twist
Best Autobot Mini-Car (1984): Bumper (abandoning my own rules here)
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1985): Beachcomber
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1986): Outback
Best Throttlebot (1987): Goldbug
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1986): Steeljaw & Rewind
Best Aerialbot (1986): Skydive
Best Protectobot (1986): Hotspot
Best Technobot (1987): Afterburner
Best Dinobot (1985): Swoop
Best Monsterbot (1987): Grotesque
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Best Decepticon Plane (1984): Starscream
Best Decepticon Plane (1985): Thrust
Best Decepticon Plane (1986): Scourge
Best Targetmaster Decepticon Plane (1987): Triggerhappy
Best Headmaster Decepticon (1987): Skullcruncher
Worst Headmaster Horrorcon (1987): Both! (more rule-bending)
Best Decepticon Triple-Changer (1985 and 1986): Octane
Best Duocon (1987): Flywheels
Best Battlecharger (1986): Runamuck
Best Stunticon (1986): Dead End
Best Combaticon (1986): Onslaught
Best Terrorcon (1987): Rippersnapper
Best Predacon (1986): Rampage
Best Insecticon (1985): Bombshell
Best Deluxe Insecticon (1985): Venom
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1984): Ravage & Rumble
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987): Ratbat & Frenzy
Best Constructicon (1985): Bonecrusher
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The factors that I resorted to in close contests varied greatly. Sometimes it was the novelty of not owning it (Swoop won over Grimlock for this reason). Sometimes it was the nostalgia of having owned it for the longest time (hence Bombshell won over the other two Insecticons). Sometimes it was a very personal thing (I find cicadas cute so chose the poorly named Venom). Sometimes it was the cartoon character that won me over (for instance Octane).
Three voters is a small number. Nonetheless it's interesting to note which toys got chosen by all of us - Hot Rod, Whirl, Afterburner, Grotesque. In some cases I suspect this says more about the competition than the winners.
If nothing else, I'm thinking this exercise might help me decide a wish-list for future second-hand purchases. :)
GoktimusPrime
5th December 2018, 11:21 PM
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987): Ratbat & Frenzy
Ratbat and Frenzy was 1986.
I vividly remember passing up on this set many times because I already had Laserbeak and Frenzy. Thankfully this set was kind of a pegwarmer, and months later I eventually caved and got it. This was the first time that I bought a variant of a toy I already owned, and also my earliest memory of deciding not to get a toy only to later renege and get it. ;)
DaptoDog
6th December 2018, 08:30 AM
Ok I'll have a turn.
Best Two (2) Autobot Cars (1984): Jazz* and Hound
Best Autobot Car (1985): Skids* (sentimental being my first Transformer, Smokescreen objectively)
Best Autobot Car (1986): Hot Rod*
Best Targetmaster Autobot Car (1987): Sureshot
Best Headmaster Autobot * (1987): Hardhead
Best Autobot Deluxe Vehicle (1985): Roadbuster*
Best Autobot Triple-Changer (1986): Sandstorm
Best Jumpstarter (1985): Twintwist (never realised these were so early in the line)
Best Autobot Mini-Car (1984): Windcharger
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1985): Warpath
Best Autobot Mini-Vehicle (1986): Pipes
Best Throttlebot (1987): Searchlight*
Best Pair Of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1986): Eject/Ramhorn
Best Aerialbot (1986): Air Raid*
Best Protectobot (1986): Groove*
Best Technobot (1987): Scattershot*
Best Dinobot (1985): Sludge
Best Monsterbot (1987): Grotesque*
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Best Decepticon Plane (1984): Skywarp
Best Decepticon Plane (1985): Thrust*
Best Decepticon Plane (1986): Cyclonus*
Best Targetmaster Decepticon Plane (1987): Triggerhappy
Best Headmaster Decepticon * (1987): Skullcruncher
Best Headmaster Horrorcon * (1987): Apeface
Best Decepticon Triple-Changer (1985 and 1986): Octane*
Best Duocon (1987): Flywheels
Best Battlecharger (1986): Runabout
Best Stunticon (1986): Wildrider
Best Combaticon (1986): Swindle*
Best Terrorcon (1987): Hun-Gurrr
Best Predacon (1986): Razorclaw*
Best Insecticon (1985): Shrapnel
Best Deluxe Insecticon (1985): Chopshop
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1984): Frenzy/Laserbeak*
Best Pair Of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1987): Ratbat/Slugfest
Best Constructicon (1985): Hook*
* Denotes I own it
Dan
7th December 2018, 05:03 AM
Ratbat and Frenzy was 1986.
I vividly remember passing up on this set many times because I already had Laserbeak and Frenzy. Thankfully this set was kind of a pegwarmer, and months later I eventually caved and got it. This was the first time that I bought a variant of a toy I already owned, and also my earliest memory of deciding not to get a toy only to later renege and get it. ;)
I've had that indecision (or rather a sequence of different decisions approximating indecision) even in adulthood. :)
The re-packaging of Frenzy with Ratbat always seemed annoying. Mind you Ratbat did look amazing with his minute level of articulation. It was as if he was moving forward while much of the line was moving backwards.
I also remember wondering why bats are always evil. Ratbat would have been a cool Autobot.
Oh, and I listed that pair as 1987 to prevent them from competing with the original two pairs. :)
Ok I'll have a turn... Best Autobot Car (1985): Skids * (sentimental being my first Transformer, Smokescreen objectively)...
Skids was almost my first boxed (rather than blister packed) Transformer. Or at any rate that was my intention after a classmate showed him off at school. However on getting to the local toy store with sufficient cash for an Autobot Car, I was faced with only Prowl, and got him instead.
I feel Prowl is the better toy, as well as having nostalgia value for me, but Skids always had a lingering charm, and I eventually got a recentish re-issue. All his working doors and hatches are damned nifty. :)
GoktimusPrime
7th December 2018, 09:20 AM
Btw, will you be doing the rest of G1? Cos seeing your list is like looking at a 40% complete progress bar. :p ;) :p
The re-packaging of Frenzy with Ratbat always seemed annoying. Mind you Ratbat did look amazing with his minute level of articulation. It was as if he was moving forward while much of the line was moving backwards.
I guess because he was engineered to be compatible with Microman whereas other figures were uniquely made for Transformers and thus severed their direct ties with Diaclone, Microman and other pre-TF lines
(i.e. greater influence from Hasbro over Takara)
Oh, and I listed that pair as 1987 to prevent them from competing with the original two pairs. :)
The original Decepticon Cassettes were 1984. Frenzy/Laserbeak was no longer available in 1986.
Another factor that helped push me into getting Frenzy/Laserbeak was that my original Frenzy was really worn out. Heh, my first taste of a reissue. ;)
DaptoDog
7th December 2018, 03:25 PM
Skids was almost my first boxed (rather than blister packed) Transformer. Or at any rate that was my intention after a classmate showed him off at school. However on getting to the local toy store with sufficient cash for an Autobot Car, I was faced with only Prowl, and got him instead.
I feel Prowl is the better toy, as well as having nostalgia value for me, but Skids always had a lingering charm, and I eventually got a recentish re-issue. All his working doors and hatches are damned nifty. :)
So nifty. I used to remove his rubber wheels and store them in his boot. That toy had so much play value. At some point it broke (probably thanks to my brother). I recently opened my reissue of him and it brought back fond memories.
Dan
9th December 2018, 02:19 AM
So nifty. I used to remove his rubber wheels and store them in his boot. That toy had so much play value. At some point it broke (probably thanks to my brother). I recently opened my reissue of him and it brought back fond memories.
His wheels came off (and went back on again)?
I'm having more specific recollections to do with the Skid toy a classmate showed off. Everyone was impressed and yet, some of the boys referred to his alt-mode as a 'jap crap' car, showing that even at the age of 12 they had been inculcated into some kind of car-based prejudice.
Dan
9th December 2018, 02:28 AM
Btw, will you be doing the rest of G1? Cos seeing your list is like looking at a 40% complete progress bar. :p ;) :p
This took some research, as I'm barely familiar with the latter part of G1, and my energy flagged by 1990, but that's still a lot more than I originally listed, so here I go...
Best Autobot Powermaster (1988): Getaway
Best Autobot Headmaster (1988): Hosehead (and as a result I would possibly change my Protectobot from Hotspot to Groove)
Best Autobot Targetmaster (1988): Quickmix
Best Autobot Pretender (1988): Sky High
Best Autobot Pretender Beast (1988): Catilla
Best Triggerbot (1988): Override
Best Sparkabot (1988): Guzzle
Best Pair of Autobot Mini-Cassettes (1988): Grand Slam and Raindance
Best Decepticon Powermaster (1988): Dreadwind
Best Decepticon Headmaster (1988): Squeezeplay
Best Decepticon Targetmaster (1988): Spinister (mostly for that name)
Best Decepticon Pretender (1988): Bugly
Best Decepticon Pretender Beast (1988): Snarler
Best Triggercon (1988): Crankcase
Worst Firecon (1988): Cindersaur
Best Pair of Decepticon Mini-Cassettes (1988): Beastbox and Squawktalk
Worst Seacon (1988): Tentakil
Worst Autobot Pretender (1989): Doubleheader
Best Autobot Micromaster (1989): Erector
Worst Decepticon Pretender (1989): Stranglehold
Best Decepticon Monster Pretender (1989): Sorry I gotta pass on this…
Best Decepticon Micromaster (1989): Flattop
Best Autobot Action Master (1990): Rad
Best Autobot Micromaster (1990): Autobot Astro Squad
Best Decepticon Action Master (1990): Treadshot
Best Decepticon Micromaster (1990): Decepticon Battle Squad
One thing this has driven home for me is how cool Micromasters were. They were more nicely detailed than many larger Transformers of the time. They had some cool playsets (something lacking from the Transformers brand overall). And you could get a bunch of them quickly. Had I been younger (while still being discerning) I can see an alternate past version of me collecting Micromasters exclusively. :)
DaptoDog
11th December 2018, 06:27 AM
His wheels came off (and went back on again)?
Actually I should have said tyres rather than the whole wheel.
I can't be bothered doing the rest of G1 since I also didn't get much past the 86 topline except for some Micromasters.
Dan
11th December 2018, 09:06 PM
Actually I should have said tyres rather than the whole wheel.
I guessed at tyers. Still, that's dedication to play features. :)
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