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Kyle
4th April 2019, 02:21 PM
Studio Series Optimus Prime (Bumblebee movie)
Series - Generations
Sub-line - Studio Series
Size/class - Voyager
New/remould/redeco - New
Wave - 6
Released here - Not yet (Asia & America APR 2019)
Approximate Retail Price - AU $50-60 (US $33)
Approximate Size - 17 cm
Allegiance - Autobot
Alt-mode - Truck cab
Main Features/Gimmicks - Accuracy to concept arts for the Bumblebee movie
Main Colours - Red, blue, dark grey, black
Main Accessories - Blaster rifle

This is a beautiful toy. The portions and details of the robot mode are not completely accurate to the final on-screen CGI, but IMO a VERY good attempt. Robot mode doesn't feel hollow and feels dense. I managed to transform between robot and truck modes without looking at the instructions. And I didn't have the problems that some fans complained about online. No parts/flaps fell off during transformations - not even the head/neck pieces. I had no problem at all keeping everything in place in truck mode - but your mileage can vary of course. Transformation is involved but never frustrating (I actually had more issues with things getting in the way when transforming the old Evasion mould). Lots of folding, but overall a smooth experience for myself. I really like how the front windows of the truck cab form the robot chest - as a Prime toy should!
Plastics used are a little rubbery - but I understand it's for tolerance issues for the complexity at such a small scale. The rear leg panels near the ankles don't tend to stay in place but I feel they are a relatively minor issue. Ankles can tilt side to side. You can point the feet downward but not upward - losing some scores here! But given how most joints that you can expect are all there - you can still put him in a lot of dynamic poses. Knees are not double jointed but you can fold them more than 90 degrees. Finally a G1 Prime toy done with movie level modern details. I really love this toy!

SharkyMcShark
4th April 2019, 02:49 PM
I am incredibly keen for this. I love how barrel chested the robot mode is.

Any word on if we're getting this at local retail?

Kyle
5th April 2019, 01:54 PM
Any word on if we're getting this at local retail?

No idea. I didn't wish to miss out and got mine (Hasbro version) from Robotkingdom. It seems certain retailers in Hong Kong were able to order two different case packs: (a) Wave 6 Voyager assortment (1 Optimus + 1 Rampage), or (b) Voyager Hero assortment (2 Optimus).

TT is also releasing their version (as well as Shatter) in Japan this weekend (both characters from Bumblebee movie), instead of with the other 3 non-BB movie Studio Series releases at the end of this month. If you preordered from HLJ you would have been charged a few hours ago.

Tober
14th April 2019, 02:38 AM
I've had it for about a week now and have transformed it a few times (no instructions, but the double twisting torso took a bit of figuring out). It's not very intuitive and at times seems too complicated for it's own good. I like the finished bot and vehicle modes, but the typical Studio Series transformation is a bit convoluted. I'm leaning towards the Siege Prims for overall being more intuitive and having better 'play value', but not looking quite as good.

I am kinda miffed that there's no trailer. It's a mostly empty box on wheels, c'mon Hasbro - try harder! I'd have preferred a Leader class size with trailer than the Voyager without.

neomoz
15th April 2019, 12:08 PM
Love this figure except for 2 things.

1. Moving his ankles untabs his leg assembly, making posing him frustrating at times since you're constantly having to retab his legs back in.

2. In vehicle mode, the top of the truck grill doesn't sit flush. I've seen on others and pics here all have the same issue, so just seems like a general design fault where the hinge doesn't fold enough to sit flush.

I hope the eventual OS KO will fix these issues and with a size bump we'll get to appreciate this great design even more.

I also love this design so much I'm seriously thinking about getting the 3A DLX version that was just announced.

reillyd
15th April 2019, 03:54 PM
umm, what is Bumblebee doing to Optimus in this shot? With his legs cocked like that

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=6343&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1554347892

Do I have a dirty mind or does that look a little sus? Pull my smokestacks harder Bumblebee, lol

GoktimusPrime
15th April 2019, 05:06 PM
Got this toy today but it came with two left door ladder panels, with one of them assembled on the right side of the truck and the right panel is missing. This makes it impossible for the panel to tab in. :( Otherwise the rest of this toy seems fine. Haven't had a decent play with either mode as I spent a lot of time trying to get the panel to tab in before realising that it's the wrong side panel that's been put into place.

Going to ask for a replacement part but until then I'm stuck with an SS38 that cannot fully transform into truck mode.
Update: the online dealer has offered to send me a replacement panel :)

Also, here are some pics:

In box
https://i.ibb.co/GtNzM0Y/studioseries38-01.jpg

Robot mode, front
https://i.ibb.co/LQj3QjV/studioseries38-02.jpg

Robot mode, back
https://i.ibb.co/C9BcnW9/studioseries38-03.jpg

My two left side panels
https://i.ibb.co/tCB3wbp/studioseries38-03b.jpg

My main criticism (albeit a small one) about this toy...
https://i.ibb.co/JRpR6Xp/studioseries38-03a.jpg
It bugs me whenever any toy doesn't have a faction logo, but with some other Studio Series figures I get that it's because the original screen model didn't have it and that they're trying to screen accurate. But in this case Optimus Prime does have Autobot logos on his shoulders, so I see no reason why they were omitted.

It's more complex than one might think, but the transformation is fairly intuitive and doable (it was just impossible for me until I realised that mine was misassembled :p). A more major criticism are the gaps on the rear on the vehicle. I think that making the thigh panels able to swing in and cover that gap would've helped, but I suspect that it would've blown the budget as the rest of the toy has soooo many different moving parts and panels. It's something that they would be able to do on a Leader Class figure, but given that this is a Voyager it's something that I can overlook. And there is a trade off; while it does have that gap, it does bring some new features which are absent on previous COE Optimus Prime trucks, including:
* the sleeper cabin
* a slimmer rear section of the truck which attempts to better hide the robot legs rather than just having a pair of chunky robot legs tucked up
So I think this is where much of the budget was also absorbed into - having the legs transform to try to make it look as realistic as possible.

While this isn't a flawless toy I do think it is a very good one and I would absolutely recommend it. :)

GoktimusPrime
16th April 2019, 10:51 AM
Took some pics in truck mode (left side only until I get that replacement panel :p)

https://i.ibb.co/mB7wpVB/studioseries38-06.jpg
You can see the unsightly gap beneath the sleeper cabin, but you can also see that this rear section is rather thin, trying to hide the fact that they're a pair of robot legs.

Dark of the Moon Deluxe OP's trailer fits in quite well with SS38
https://i.ibb.co/P1zfqrG/studioseries38-05.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/5Mrvt6r/studioseries38-05a.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/KDB9t0J/studioseries38-05b.jpg

G2 Laser OP's trailer also fits this toy. I don't own Ultimate OP anymore and I've never owned Voyager DOTM OP so I can't try those trailers. If you're looking for a trailer to fit this toy what you're looking for are:
1. a trailer with a 5mm post hitch
2. the proportions of the trailer and length of hitch needs to be right to plug into SS38 and still have both the cab and trailer stand properly

GoktimusPrime
17th April 2019, 10:47 PM
Made a thread comparing SS38 with G1 and other Movie Optimus Primes here (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=609739#post609739)
https://i.ibb.co/NLTtpyb/studioseries38-11a.jpg

Tetsuwan Convoy
5th May 2019, 12:02 PM
Got mine int he post the other day after giving up the hunt in shops for one since its release here in Japan. Serious, 4 shop hunts going to at least 3 shops each time and being unable to find one... He's a popular boy.

I like him a lot. Very good pose options and lots of moulded details have made him a nice "every-series" Prime. Great head sculpt and greeble details, but not too many IMO.

Transformation is pretty simple, but I find the panels a bit fiddly to deal with. I like the way the back panels fold up and cover the wheels and lock in, it's pretty nifty. I also like the G1-esque arm motion when going between forms, a nice little TFing touch. The the way the head locks in the vehicle mode is very tight and as a result I have a tendency to pull his head off first, over unlocking the panel.

Nice paint, but I dislike the lack of Auto insignias, like Gok. and I wonder how much different he'd look with blue hands.

A nice dynamic Optimus, and the first Optimus I've bought in at least 4 years.

GoktimusPrime
5th May 2019, 11:47 PM
I wonder how much different he'd look with blue hands.
https://i.ibb.co/Qn1G2KC/temp.jpg

Paulbot
7th May 2019, 09:31 PM
Quite a nice Optimus toy. He’s got a complicated transformation, and a bunch of tabs to line up, but it flows logically.

He doesn’t seem to want to stand well in a neutral pose and the feet transformation was a bit tight for me. That’s about my only issue.

Second voyager Prime for me this year (after Siege) and both are great.

Deano85
8th May 2019, 12:56 AM
Second voyager Prime for me this year (after Siege) and both are great.

Same for me. Two great figures.

BigTransformerTrev
8th May 2019, 10:33 AM
I would have got this figure if he came with a trailer. The fact he had a trailer in the movie but not with the toy just edges him out of my want list. If ever the toy is heavily discounted or re-released with a trailer I may pick it up.

GoktimusPrime
8th May 2019, 11:15 AM
I would have got this figure if he came with a trailer. The fact he had a trailer in the movie but not with the toy just edges him out of my want list. If ever the toy is heavily discounted or re-released with a trailer I may pick it up.
DOTM OP's trailer works with this toy :)
https://i.ibb.co/5Mrvt6r/studioseries38-05a.jpg

BigTransformerTrev
8th May 2019, 05:15 PM
DOTM OP's trailer works with this toy

Yeah so a few people have said, but then my DOTM Op will be the one lacking his trailer

Soundwarp
22nd May 2019, 08:53 AM
I’m dying to get this guy.
I’m also hoping that it’s not too difficult because my son (I’ve brain washed the crap out of him) because he wants one.

GoktimusPrime
22nd May 2019, 09:46 AM
It's pretty tricky and your son will need an assist. Maybe have a look at a video review and see if you think the transformation is within his current range of capability.

Sutton
15th June 2019, 07:23 AM
The transformation on this guy is great - right up there with some of the best movie-toy transformations. Going from a hyper-detailed robot to a minimalist, smooth boxy truck, really clever...

And it's really doable, despite how complex it looks, everything slots in pretty nicely and as long as you follow the sequence it all comes together. Being able to do the top and bottom half separately makes it a little simpler too, whereas lots of movie primes end up with arms and legs all over the place by the end of the process. This guy at heart still follows the classic G1 Prime transformation.

One of the best figures I've picked up this year (so far).

Tabias Prime
16th July 2019, 08:23 PM
This guy has been my current fiddle toy for the last few days....I love the figure, great model but I have a couple of grips, one Gok already mentioned, the loose back leg panels, which comes down to poor tooling and a simple would be to have a step tab to lock it place, fixed with a small dremel bit. Mine had very loose hips, fixed with a bit of superglue...and the ball joint for the head was so tight that I feared I'd snap it off, it was easier to replace with a leftover ball joint from a Gundam kit, as I have a habit of modding Transformers.. these were easy fixes but could of been seen too prior to production..

SharkyMcShark
26th August 2019, 06:17 PM
This is an amazing figure.

Transformation is fun and intricate. The mid torso swivel reminds me really pleasantly of Striker Manus.

The robot mode legs could hold together slightly better, but in the grand scheme of things its not a big deal.

The only flaws on mine are as follows

1. The right pectoral hinge for the windshield is slightly malformed. It presses the joint out of the socket as its swiveled. I've tried a bit of hot water treatment and it has slightly helped.
2. Left leg is a bit loose.

I would love to see other characters from G1 given this style of update!

Keidatron
14th September 2019, 10:30 PM
This is easily THE best Optimus figure to come out of any of the movies. Absolutely fantastic, I love him!

Bemblebuu
18th September 2019, 10:49 AM
This design is a near perfect combination of G1 aesthetics and Bayverse-movie hyper detail. I wish more modern designs were like it.