Generations Select Gulf from King Poseidon revealed.

[DELTAprime]

Takara has revealed the second part of what will be a full King Poseidon set. This time they are showing off Gulf. I can't wait to see the rest of the set and get my hands on them.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-transformers-generations-selects-gulf-king-poseidon-revealed/43429/

[Paulbot]

Looks like it is a full six member team.

Would be good if they end up coming out as a box rather individual exclusive releases...

I'm interested and somewhat interested in a God Neptune version too

[Tha_Phantom]

Looks like it is a full six member team.

Would be good if they end up coming out as a box rather individual exclusive releases...

I'm interested and somewhat interested in a God Neptune version too

Hopefully yes on all 3 points. :D

[BigTransformerTrev]

I'm hoping they come with Targetmaster modes as well, though to be honest I don't think we will be that lucky, unless they are pretty average ones like the Siege Autobot Micromasters display

[griffin]

The silhouette at the back behind the part-combiner, has "Nautilator's" legs right where the right hand would be (being held as a weapon), which should mean all 6 members.
I wouldn't be too upset if they didn't have the "targetmaster" modes, as they will already need three modes and have articulation that the original toys didn't... more engineering for a fourth mode will probably spoil the look or lead to a lot of kibble (which Skalor/Gulf) looks to have.

[Paulbot]

Thinking about the CW limbs we have so far - and you could make most of them "guns" as much as the original Targetmaster Seacons were just by having pegs on the guns so you can stick them in where the fist/foot plugs in.

[dirge]

The last square peg combiners getting the Classicsverse upgrade. I'm all in!

[Sutton]

It's a pain that these look to be individual releases rather than a simple (if expensive) giftset. These are going to be a pain to track down in Oz no doubt.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Thinking about the CW limbs we have so far - and you could make most of them "guns" as much as the original Targetmaster Seacons were just by having pegs on the guns so you can stick them in where the fist/foot plugs in.

Well that's quite true, the original Seacons Targetmaster modes were more often than not their limb mode with a gun stuck in the end. I did like the fact they came with individual stands so that Snap Trap could use them as portable gun emplacements.

So yeah, it wouldn't be too hard to do, it's just whether the powers that be bother to do it. I was pretty letdown that CW/UW Scattershot (http://www.bigangrytrev.com/toy-review-unite-warriors-computron-vs-combiner-wars-computron/) didn't come with his gun emplacement mode, instead was just a simple retool of Silverbolt with no 3rd mode besides being combined.

[KELPIE]

OOoh, I am so in!

I actually hope Takara release a giftset, while Hasbro eventually release as individuals. I'd get both sets.

I agree with some here. I don't need their weapon gimmick. Skalors backpack is already huge.

Oh, random question... How do you pronounce it:

Sea cons
or
See a cons

It's the later for me.

[Paulbot]

OOoh, I am so in!

I actually hope Takara release a giftset, while Hasbro eventually release as individuals. I'd get both sets.

I agree with some here. I don't need their weapon gimmick. Skalors backpack is already huge.

Oh, random question... How do you pronounce it:

Sea cons
or
See a cons

It's the later for me.

I've been convinced it Sea Cons, but I still call them See A Cons

If they released God Neptune repaints I hope those are individual as I really only want Scylla - but odds are it will be Seacons individually and Pirates as a box set.

The G2/FunPub colours are pretty unlikely though...

[DELTAprime]

Prices for the Seacons appear to be 3800 Yen for the limbs and 6500 Yen for the torso. So no box set by the looks of it.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-pics-of-2019-tokyo-toy-show-with-siege-mirage-impactor-and-200-price-tag-for-piranacon/43432/

[BigTransformerTrev]

I agree with some here. I don't need their weapon gimmick. Skalors backpack is already huge.



Would you classify it as a gimmick though? For me a gimmick is something like being able to walk, sound effects, shoot sparks - that kind of stuff. I'd more count their gun transformation as one of their modes.

I have zero problems with them leaving gimmicks out. For instance I don't care that the new Monsterbots don't breathe fire or that the upcoming Omega wont walk. But it kinda irritates me when they make a figure decades after the original and have simplified it to the point they have left an entire mode out. Like Sky Lynx not having individual bird and lynx modes and Scattershot not having a gun emplacement mode.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like if these guys lack their Targetmaster modes that I'll chuck a wobbly - I'll still be laying down my bucks to grab them. It would just be nice is all :)

[KELPIE]

Would you classify it as a gimmick though? For me a gimmick is something like being able to walk, sound effects, shoot sparks - that kind of stuff. I'd more count their gun transformation as one of their modes.

I guess it's a gimmick in the sense that a triple changer has a gimmick of a third mode. Likewise the ability to combine would be another gimmick.

Just because it's part of a figures core function, doesn't make it any less of a gimmick. I mean, the ability of Transformers transforming was originally a gimmick.

[griffin]

Oh, random question... How do you pronounce it:

Sea cons
or
See a cons

It's the later for me.


I've never heard it having an alternative pronunciation before, so this is news to me.
I'm not sure what "See a Cons" would be referring to as a name, since they are creatures from the Sea (or Water), so "Sea Cons" would be where the name comes from and be how I always thought it was pronounced (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nF4m8wtJwY).
(do a youtube search for 1980s Transformers commercials... it's a lot of retro fun)



Would you classify it as a gimmick though? For me a gimmick is something like being able to walk, sound effects, shoot sparks - that kind of stuff. I'd more count their gun transformation as one of their modes.



When it comes to Transformers, a gimmick is anything that a group or series of figures is marketed as being unique at doing... from something really specific like sparks or a spring-loaded feature, to how many modes it has... or even transforming at all (or lack of, like Actionmasters - their gimmick was that they *didn't* transform, but were (at the time) had better sculpting and joints for action play).
And a Transformers toy can have more than one gimmick - The Seacons have combining as a gimmick, AND, the ability to turn into a weapon as an extra mode (which other combiner limbs don't).
Since there appears to be all six in this set, and the silhouette looked to have the Lobster Con being held as a weapon, it should be safe to say that these will have the extra gimmick of having a fourth "gun" mode... but if it is just their limb mode with guns attached to one end, these newer combiners have Piranacon "elbow" and "knee" joints when in limb mode, which the original Seacons didn't have, so the gun modes may not be as stable this time around. (probably the one advantage of "brick" toys back in the 80s... the gun modes weren't a floppy mess with too many joints).

[BigTransformerTrev]

I guess it's a gimmick in the sense that a triple changer has a gimmick of a third mode. Likewise the ability to combine would be another gimmick.

Just because it's part of a figures core function, doesn't make it any less of a gimmick. I mean, the ability of Transformers transforming was originally a gimmick.



When it comes to Transformers, a gimmick is anything that a group or series of figures is marketed as being unique at doing... from something really specific like sparks or a spring-loaded feature, to how many modes it has... or even transforming at all (or lack of, like Actionmasters - their gimmick was that they *didn't* transform, but were (at the time) had better sculpting and joints for action play).
And a Transformers toy can have more than one gimmick - The Seacons have combining as a gimmick, AND, the ability to turn into a weapon as an extra mode (which other combiner limbs don't).
Since there appears to be all six in this set, and the silhouette looked to have the Lobster Con being held as a weapon, it should be safe to say that these will have the extra gimmick of having a fourth "gun" mode... but if it is just their limb mode with guns attached to one end, these newer combiners have Piranacon "elbow" and "knee" joints when in limb mode, which the original Seacons didn't have, so the gun modes may not be as stable this time around. (probably the one advantage of "brick" toys back in the 80s... the gun modes weren't a floppy mess with too many joints).

Well there ya go. Sounds like my idea of a gimmick differs to others. Fair enough, agree to sorta disagree (since I can see you guys point of view and kinda agree with it :p)

[Paulbot]

I've never heard it having an alternative pronunciation before, so this is news to me.
I'm not sure what "See a Cons" would be referring to as a name, since they are creatures from the Sea (or Water), so "Sea Cons" would be where the name comes from and be how I always thought it was pronounced (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nF4m8wtJwY).
(do a youtube search for 1980s Transformers commercials... it's a lot of retro fun)

We’ve debated it here before :)

It’s a naming pattern thing, they are from the Sea of course, but:

Decept-A-con, Insect-a-con, Stunt-a-con, Combat-a-con, Pred-a-con, Horr-a-con, Tear-a-con, Trigg-a-con... therefore: sea-a-con

No need for anyone to correct me on English grammar and pronunciation and Latin roots, thankyou :) .

[BigTransformerTrev]

Ah hahaha! This is textbook geekdom discourse at its best! :D

Between myself, Kelpie, Paulbot and Griffin we’ve taken a news report about an unpainted overseas prototype of an extremely obscure character and turned it into a discussion about semantics and pronounciaton :p


Well done gents, I’m proud of us all :D