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SharkyMcShark
16th July 2019, 02:15 PM
https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/07/15/war-for-cybertron-siege-g1-raimakers-acid-storm-ion-storm-nova-storm-3-pack-images-391495

These look lazy. I wonder what price they'll go for?

(images from link)

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/071601.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/071602.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/071603.jpg

Tha_Phantom
16th July 2019, 02:17 PM
These look lazy.

To be fair, so is the source material. ;)

https://i.ibb.co/WPSFXm9/300px-Rainmakers.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Omega Metro
16th July 2019, 02:55 PM
These look awesome!

DELTAprime
16th July 2019, 03:07 PM
Bye, Bye Universe Acid Storm.

Bidoofdude
16th July 2019, 03:36 PM
Excited for this.

Gehirn
16th July 2019, 03:48 PM
So we've got 7 seekers now in the range? Didn't expect that.

griffin
16th July 2019, 04:02 PM
So we've got 7 seekers now in the range? Didn't expect that.

All in one year too... which is really pimping out a single mould.
The 2006 Classics Starscream mould at least took a few years to get to 7 different characters, and was still being used 9 years later. I wonder why they are rushing out these different redecos, as if they have another Seeker mould coming in a future WFC chapter, and don't want to be releasing the old mould at the same time.

Bidoofdude
16th July 2019, 04:26 PM
All in one year too... which is really pimping out a single mould.
The 2006 Classics Starscream mould at least took a few years to get to 7 different characters, and was still being used 9 years later. I wonder why they are rushing out these different redecos, as if they have another Seeker mould coming in a future WFC chapter, and don't want to be releasing the old mould at the same time.

The collecting scene is much different. Given that we get even obscure G1 characters in new moulds consistently, most anything is possible now. I can’t speak for being in 2006-2010, as I wasn’t a collector at the time, but it seems what we could get for fans was very limited, and risky for Hasbro in terms of straying from core characters.

It’s a golden age for fans now, so they can keep pumping stuff out fast and instantly sell it out. Greenlight, Lancer, Rainmakers, a Unicron, a titan every year, red Swoop, 3 Reflectors, all so fast but no shortage of interest.

shockNwave
16th July 2019, 05:13 PM
I wonder if these are going to be a Myer exclusive (like the Coneheads from years ago)? Because if these are going to be standing in the way of Siege Jetfire and Omega Supreme being in stock, I hope the answer is no.

Paulbot
16th July 2019, 06:39 PM
So we've got 7 seekers now in the range? Didn't expect that.

Seven and none of them are one of the coneheads? That’s astonishing!

lfpnrg
16th July 2019, 07:36 PM
So pretty!

hYpNoS
16th July 2019, 08:04 PM
Damnit as a seeker seeker I have to get this, but that deco is lazy, source material be damned they all have the same "battle damage" markings all over them


Seven and none of them are one of the coneheads? That’s astonishing!

Gonna be an interesting retool job, considering none of them shown up as tetra jets and the leg...um kibble, where is that gonna go, new legs required to facilitate that, I'd much rather them with earth mode jetforms considering none of them were realistic anyway, could easily pass off as cybetronian despite the main form being based off f15's...but this is all wisheful thinking for something to stand out from these 7

griffin
16th July 2019, 08:13 PM
No doubt they've planned to have coneheads (if a bigger coned head can fit in the transformation)... but it is strange that they have revealed four cannon fodder seekers, and none of the three original series Conehead Seekers.

SDCC in a couple days time will let us know, as we are at the tail end of Siege, so maybe the Coneheads will be a feature of the second series of WFC.

griffin
16th July 2019, 08:24 PM
Gonna be an interesting retool job, considering none of them shown up as tetra jets and the leg...um kibble, where is that gonna go, new legs required to facilitate that, I'd much rather them with earth mode jetforms considering none of them were realistic anyway, could easily pass off as cybetronian despite the main form being based off f15's...but this is all wisheful thinking for something to stand out from these 7

Hmmm... I forgot all about the different wing locations (https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/ee/FFOD1_Dirge_and_Ramjet_shot_down.jpg)... probably because TakaraTomy did such a great job reworking the Masterpiece Seeker mould to give us really great looking Coneheads.
Maybe it won't be as easy to do after all... unless they just cheat and do Conehead colours, like they did with those earlier tetrajet toys from TF-Cybertron (http://tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFURamjet/ramjet.htm) and Titaniums (http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TitThrust/thrust.htm).

KELPIE
17th July 2019, 07:59 AM
All in one year too... which is really pimping out a single mould.
The 2006 Classics Starscream mould at least took a few years to get to 7 different characters, and was still being used 9 years later. I wonder why they are rushing out these different redecos, as if they have another Seeker mould coming in a future WFC chapter, and don't want to be releasing the old mould at the same time.
I'd say it's because they are in Tetrajet form... they really only fit in a Cybertron battle, pre-earth story line. As soon as the direction changes and there's a bunch of earth modes, it'd be difficult to pop in a random Tetrajet.

At least with the '06 mould, they had years of earth modes that they could use to pump up numbers with a random jet.


Seven and none of them are one of the coneheads? That’s astonishing!
There were no Conehead Tetrajets.... wait - what hYpNoS said :)


Gonna be an interesting retool job, considering none of them shown up as tetra jets and the leg...um kibble, where is that gonna go, new legs required to facilitate that, I'd much rather them with earth mode jetforms considering none of them were realistic anyway, could easily pass off as cybetronian despite the main form being based off f15's...but this is all wisheful thinking for something to stand out from these 7

And he said it better than I was ever going to.

As for the set I love it. Buuut.... I do feel that the solid colours really show off the amount of greeble and filler plastic in a negative way :(

Now I'm really upset that the Skywarp box will have the other random battlemasters in it.

Ode to a Grasshopper
17th July 2019, 10:40 AM
I'd like these, they're actually the only versions of the mold/characters I want from the mold, but they'll probably be expensive and exclusive. :(

GoktimusPrime
17th July 2019, 01:45 PM
JUST TAKE MY MONEY!


I have to get this, but that deco is lazy, source material be damned they all have the same "battle damage" markings all over them
^LOL cos true. :D

griffin
18th July 2019, 07:37 PM
And already out at US retail... found at Target for US$80 (https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/07/17/transformers-war-for-cybertron-rain-makers-out-at-us-retail-391541) (they have official images included, but don't say where they were found).

The price is a rarity, in that it is less than what three Voyagers would cost at retail (US$30 in America).

Being a Target exclusive over there improves the chances of it showing up here. (fingers crossed)

hYpNoS
20th July 2019, 05:51 PM
Hmmm... I forgot all about the different wing locations (https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/ee/FFOD1_Dirge_and_Ramjet_shot_down.jpg)... probably because TakaraTomy did such a great job reworking the Masterpiece Seeker mould to give us really great looking Coneheads.
Maybe it won't be as easy to do after all... unless they just cheat and do Conehead colours, like they did with those earlier tetrajet toys from TF-Cybertron (http://tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFURamjet/ramjet.htm) and Titaniums (http://tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TitThrust/thrust.htm).

It depends how they go about it, retooling the main body slightly to fit a slightly taller head, redeco it, and "just maybe" give a few external addons to strap into the 5mm ports on the legs much like the old chug seekers (thinking thrust here), where they go in tetra jet mode NO IDEA but the ports are still accessible, but it would not be a pretty sight.

This way they would match up aesthetically with the existing set while spending less RnD time and also coming off as lazy, I would prefer my idea honestly and do all new molds, plan B would be to totally change the "jet" form shell so the main body is same as before but look closer to the conehead forms we all know (and love).

I do admit I had a chuckle when I read the bit about the mp11 mold but not because of what you said was wrong...but because of all the hassles everyone did have (thanks quality control, I nicknamed my ramjet into nose ram because of the chip on his snoz that was clearly painted over as if nothing was wrong :confused: )

BigTransformerTrev
26th September 2019, 03:13 PM
I just saw a pic of all 7 Seekers from this year together. I would have thought that they would have made the blue of Ion Storm at least a bit different to the blue on Thundercracker, but the hues look exactly the same.

griffin
26th September 2019, 04:38 PM
I kinda forgot how pale the blue is on Thundercracker (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:MainSeekers.gif), making "Ion Storm (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:DivideandCon.gif)" a little bit darker... so if the two Siege toys have the same blue, I think that they will look too similar. Unfortunately, the animation models are fairly similar, with Ion Storm basically just missing some black and grey parts.

I don't yet have the 3-pack, but those are the ones I'm most interested in, just because they are like Refaktor, in that they look like they've just jumped out of the TV... particularly their colours.


How much fun would it be to have a small cheap Seeker toy, redecoed into all of the various colour versions (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Seeker_(body-type))... particularly the cartoon ones. I'd certainly want to collect them all.

BigTransformerTrev
27th September 2019, 10:11 AM
How much fun would it be to have a small cheap Seeker toy, redecoed into all of the various colour versions (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Seeker_(body-type))... particularly the cartoon ones. I'd certainly want to collect them all.

It's what I've always wanted - all the Seekers using the same mould, with slight variations for the Coneheads and Slipstream of course. The closest I've personally come is having 8 different MP Seeker characters, 7 different Classics/Universe Seeker Characters and 7 different G1 characters. If I manage to source Redwing at a half decent price it might persuade me to pick up Thundercracker and Skywarp from this particular mould.

In the meantime, I reckon I will display the Rainmakers with the Classics and LG Slipstream, which really only leaves Sunstorm out of the better known characters missing. Not sure my G1 or War Within versions would suit the rest of the display but my WW version might have to do, though it means he wont be MISB anymore.

Ode to a Grasshopper
27th September 2019, 11:28 AM
How much fun would it be to have a small cheap Seeker toy, redecoed into all of the various colour versions (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Seeker_(body-type))... particularly the cartoon ones. I'd certainly want to collect them all.See, what I want is to get as many Seekers as I can, but using different molds. So, say, MP-11 for Starscream, CHUG for Skywarp and/or Thundercracker, G1 reissue for the coneheads, the Siege rainmakers for...the rainmakers, but then start doing up the other new and existing seeker molds as the 'other' Seekers. They'd all look kind of the same, but also kind of different, which I think would be cool.

BigTransformerTrev
27th September 2019, 05:56 PM
See, what I want is to get as many Seekers as I can, but using different molds. So, say, MP-11 for Starscream, CHUG for Skywarp and/or Thundercracker, G1 reissue for the coneheads, the Siege rainmakers for...the rainmakers, but then start doing up the other new and existing seeker molds as the 'other' Seekers. They'd all look kind of the same, but also kind of different, which I think would be cool.

That actually would be pretty cool if they were all the same scale

Raider
27th September 2019, 07:37 PM
It's what I've always wanted - all the Seekers using the same mould, with slight variations for the Coneheads and Slipstream of course. The closest I've personally come is having 8 different MP Seeker characters, 7 different Classics/Universe Seeker Characters and 7 different G1 characters. If I manage to source Redwing at a half decent price it might persuade me to pick up Thundercracker and Skywarp from this particular mould.

In the meantime, I reckon I will display the Rainmakers with the Classics and LG Slipstream, which really only leaves Sunstorm out of the better known characters missing. Not sure my G1 or War Within versions would suit the rest of the display but my WW version might have to do, though it means he wont be MISB anymore.

And this is why I have been doing custom G1 versions of all the various seekers! I cannot get enough of these redecos. Just need to figure out how to get my hands on this 3 pack without it costing an arm and a leg.

Omega Metro
27th September 2019, 08:12 PM
It would be a dream come true if we could get Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust out of this mould. With some slight retools of course. They are long overdue.

Sinnertwin
27th September 2019, 09:43 PM
It would be a dream come true if we could get Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust out of this mould. With some slight retools of course. They are long overdue.

I suspect with the rumoured release of Earth Mode Starscream, we may very well see them. Not as Tetras, but a uniform release at least

Jellico
27th September 2019, 09:44 PM
And just to add some Hasbro evil there is a rumor of a " Starscream Earth".

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/possible-listings-for-2020-war-for-cybertron-line-show-wheeljack-cliffjumper-hoist-and-more/43991/

Edit

pipped at the post demit.