MP39+ Spinout (Red Sunstreaker) announced

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Takara-Tomy Mall number (apparently a lot of them have been showing up on Hasbro Pulse as well), accessories seem to be the same as MP Cordon, and the same headsculpt. JPY 13,200.
Link at Seibertron.com, includes images. (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-transformers-masterpiece-spinout-revealed/44767/)

Images from the TakaraTomyMall listing (https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810133506/) - for release late November for 13,200yen.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/043001.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/043002.jpg

I'm in, I've been waiting for this guy for a while. :cool:

EDIT - For those who aren't aware btw, the red Diaclone pre-Sunstreaker is apparently the first car-to-robot transforming toy ever designed (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sunstreaker_(G1)/toys#Notes) (at least, according to Hasbro), and additionally there's pretty plausible speculation that the colours and molds for Sideswipe and Sunstreaker got switched around somewhere in the G1 Diaclone-to-Transformers process. So this guy is a pretty cool homage (IMO), and if you have MP Tigertrack then you'll be able to get a 'what could/would have been' pair of almost-but-not-quite Sideswipe and Sunstreakers. So there's some cool/interesting history behind this redeco. :cool:

[Tha_Phantom]

Haha, was just making a thread for this too. :p
Yeah, I'm in for it 100%. Apparently the name Spinout was in consideration before Hasbro settled on Sunstreaker for the G1 toy (and made it yellow).

[DaptoDog]

Ok we all saw this coming at some point so good to get it confirmed. That car mode is dope.

Now I know we all gave up trying to understand the numbering convention long ago but why is this a "+" version (previously reserved for toon or toy repaints of the original release in the same colour)? Previously they would have called it MP-39R in the same way they did with Red Bumblebee etc.

[Tha_Phantom]

Now I know we all gave up trying to understand the numbering convention long ago but why is this a "+" version (previously reserved for toon or toy repaints of the original release in the same colour)? Previously they would have called it MP-39R in the same way they did with Red Bumblebee etc.

Not sure the + really means anything anymore. Burning Convoy was MP-38+ for instance. So I guess the + simply means alternate deco rather than toy or toon specifically?
It'll probably change again in 12 months. :p

[DaptoDog]

Not sure the + really means anything anymore. Burning Convoy was MP-38+ for instance. So I guess the + simply means alternate deco rather than toy or toon specifically?
It'll probably change again in 12 months. :p

Haha yeh I know. I forgot about MP-38+. So Cordon would probably have been a + but they knew they were doing Red Sunstreaker so reserved the + spot for it. Simples. :p

[Jellico]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

[Deano85]

Nice repaint but it's still not Jazz haha. Waiting till we get some colour pics of Fans Toys Jazz

[Tha_Phantom]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

Heh ;)

https://i.ibb.co/1fPh186/89257746-10158510710497137-2086592350456381440-o.jpg (https://ibb.co/5WStmBF)

[Paulbot]

Haha, was just making a thread for this too. :p
Yeah, I'm in for it 100%. Apparently the name Spinout was in consideration before Hasbro settled on Sunstreaker for the G1 toy (and made it yellow).

Everything I've seen, including two of the colouring & activity books, indicates that Spin-Out was a red version of the Sunstreaker toy with the name and bio change at some point late in the game.

It's this history that makes me want to buy this, but Sunstreaker (in any colour) is an expensive MP. And I thought buying Blue Bluestreak was pricey.

When you think about it the unused names like Spin-Out, Blow-Out, Sprint, Guzzler all names seem odd today but Sunstreaker, Cliffjumper, Windcharger and Trailbreaker would seem odd if we hadn't heard them for 36 years.

[GoktimusPrime]

https://i.ibb.co/f2pXQ0M/meme-shutupandtakemymoney.jpg

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm also going to have to find some decent Shapeways etc launchers for him, assuming he only comes with one.

For those who aren't aware btw, the red Diaclone pre-Sunstreaker is apparently the first car-to-robot transforming toy ever designed (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sunstreaker_(G1)/toys#Notes) (at least, according to Hasbro), and additionally there's pretty plausible speculation that the colours and molds for Sideswipe and Sunstreaker got switched around somewhere in the G1 Diaclone-to-Transformers process. So this guy is a pretty cool homage (IMO), and if you have MP Tigertrack then you'll be able to get a 'what could/would have been' pair of almost-but-not-quite Sideswipe and Sunstreakers. So there's some cool/interesting history behind this redeco. :cool:
I'll add this to the first post too.

[GoktimusPrime]

Official page for Spin Out is here:
https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-39plus

Yeah, the belief is that the shoulder rockets on Sunstreaker's shoulders were meant to be the rocket pack for Sideswipe, and that the huge piston like arms on Sunstreaker were meant to be Sideswipe's piledriver arms. Huh, in that sense I guess you could head canon Spin-Out as an alternate universe Sideswipe. :)

[griffin]

Everything I've seen, including two of the colouring & activity books, indicates that Spin-Out was a red version of the Sunstreaker toy with the name and bio change at some point late in the game.

I don't remember if it was said why there was a late colour swap of Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, but I remember that is said to be why their bios (and the abilities on the cartoon) didn't make much sense, but did with each other bot.

Since we already have the yellow redeco of MP Sideswipe, it will look interesting pairing it up with a red MP Sunstreaker... and give us an idea of what the main cast would have looked like if we put the redecos on the display shelf with the other 1984 Masterpiece toys.
A red Sunstreaker was something sorely missed during the time of the Japanese Ehobby reissue redecos, as we got the yellow Sideswipe (which they called Tigertrack)... so finally having a red Sunstreaker will be like having the Gen2 coloured Combiner Wars Stunticons... it's not exactly the original, but close enough, for now.

[dirge]

Haha, was just making a thread for this too. :p
Yeah, I'm in for it 100%.

Heh. There's a shock ;)

[griffin]

Now I know we all gave up trying to understand the numbering convention long ago but why is this a "+" version (previously reserved for toon or toy repaints of the original release in the same colour)? Previously they would have called it MP-39R in the same way they did with Red Bumblebee etc.

Considering the TakaraTomyMall listing apparently says that Spinout is a new character, I think it should have a new number... or a letter at least. Delta Magnus and Roadrage had new numbers, but then Tigertrack, Cordon and Clampdown had letters added to an old number.
The plus toys were supposed to just be redecos that are the same characters... so I think this is a mistake, and one that will make it impossible to put much stock in the number system from now on.

[Krayt]

Seeming the + line has been hitting EB/zing... any idea if this is going to be available here?

[griffin]

Seeming the + line has been hitting EB/zing... any idea if this is going to be available here?

I will ask, but it wasn't on Hasbro Australia's most recent "current" imports listing, which is changing quite frequently lately.
EB Games has been pretty good at listing anything they are wanting to stock, about 2 weeks after it has been officially revealed in Japan.

[UltraMarginal]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

I really like the idea of having this as a tribute to the original, first transforming transformer/diaclone. the price stings a lot, but I think I'm going to spring for it anyway.
If they release the sunstreaker again with the toy head sculpt I'll be selling the first release in a heartbeat and replacing it.

[Jellico]

Official page for Spin Out is here:
https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-39plus

Yeah, the belief is that the shoulder rockets on Sunstreaker's shoulders were meant to be the rocket pack for Sideswipe, and that the huge piston like arms on Sunstreaker were meant to be Sideswipe's piledriver arms.

Sunstreaker has a giant jetpack like structure on his back.
And most noticeably those weird red body panels.

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/df/G1-toy_Sunstreaker.jpg

[Tha_Phantom]

And most noticeably those weird red body panels

The red shoulder stickers were left unchanged from the Diaclone toy. They're supposed to cover up the black plastic and match the rest of the deco, which works when they're the right colour. ;)

[GoktimusPrime]

Sunstreaker has a giant jetpack like structure on his back.
And most noticeably those weird red body panels.

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/df/G1-toy_Sunstreaker.jpg
That too :) #supertuning

The red shoulder stickers were left unchanged from the Diaclone toy. They're supposed to cover up the black plastic and match the rest of the deco, which works when they're the right colour. ;)
Most 21st Century Sunstreaker toys have "corrected" this by not having red shoulders, except for Alternators Sunstreaker (but not Binaltech!)

[Tha_Phantom]

Most 21st Century Sunstreaker toys have "corrected" this by not having red shoulders, except for Alternators Sunstreaker (but not Binaltech!)

Combiner Wars too.

https://i.ibb.co/g4pcLvF/Combiner-Wars-Sunstreaker-04.jpg (https://ibb.co/41G0nsg)

[danny-boy]

Pre-ordered without hesitation.

I'm not sure why I'm so eager to add this repaint to my collection but I'm still on the fence with MP-49 Nemesis Prime.

[Demonac]

Combiner Wars too.



Also the 2003 OTFCC, and the 2008 universe (& henkei) also had red shoulders in some way.

[Omega Metro]

Never heard of it so an easy pass. And considering how much I hate MP Sunstreaker, definitely not adding another.

[shockNwave]

Sideswipe is the one and only red Countach. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.

[Autocon]

I dig it. The head seems off to me proportion wise.

[griffin]

Some more official images have been found (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/01/hot-pre-order-alert-mp-39-autobot-spin-out-410874), now that it has been listed at other online stores.

The toy comes with the two guns that the yellow Sunstreaker came with, plus a missile for the wrist that came with Cordon. Aside from spare side mirrors, it looks to be the only accessories with this "redeco" (no new parts, but has Cordon's head on Sunstreaker's body).

The comparative prices of this mould...
2017 - Sunstreaker - 12,000yen (several accessories including both guns and Chip Chase, but no missile)
2018 - Cordon - 14,000yen (three remoulded panels, new head, and less accessories)
2020 - Spinout - 13,200yen (redeco Cordon without roof lights, and less accessories)

Based on the differences for each of the three toys, the pricing difference looks to make sense... it's just that the original mould was VERY expensive for a regular sized Masterpiece Autobot car (which were all 7000-8000yen in the two years before Sunstreaker came out).

[UltraMarginal]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

nope, I do too. with the more detailed leg panels. I literally want Spinout in Sunstreaker colours, which is the original toy I guess.

I think the Spinout leg panels are the same as Cordon, on Sunstreaker they are flat, on cordon and Spinout they are griebly.

[1AZRAEL1]

Even though I have BC version, I'll likely buy this one too. Can't have too many lol

[Seraphim Prime]

Preorders are now up on Zing Popculture.

I have started a news thread with the link in the Australian News section here: http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/27145-MP-Spinout-for-PreOrder-on-Zing

[DaptoDog]

Preorders are now up on Zing Popculture.

I have started a news thread with the link in the Australian News section here: http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/27145-MP-Spinout-for-PreOrder-on-Zing

Good news that there is a local option. For those happy to import, Robot Kingdom has it for $170 (US$109) shipped by Registered Air Mail small packet.

https://www.robotkingdom.com/mp39plus.html

Works out much cheaper than Zing (or Takara Tomy Mall) and you will get it far quicker assuming air freight has returned to more normal levels by November. RK usually keeps their pre-orders open till release so I'm just going to wait to order it rather than pay it all upfront now.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

SGD$130 (~AU$143) before shipping at Oh My Primus right now. https://ohmyprimus.com/tmp39p.html Savier's Toys also has it up for pre-order, but no estimated final price. https://www.tftoys.com.au/shop/takara-tomy/masterpiece-series/takaratomy-masterpiece-mp-39-spinout/

[griffin]

EB Games have always been hit and miss with the pricing... after we had a great price for Super Megatron, this one is on the expensive side.

The price in Japan is 13,200yen (about AU$205, depending on your bank's exchange rate), so if RK is selling it for AU$170 (would be closer to $180 at the bank/paypal exchange rate) including shipping, that's very cheap.
Just looking at OMP (https://ohmyprimus.com/tmp39p.html), they have it for AU$141 plus postage... which would easily be less than AU$100, making it also cheaper than EB.

AU$240 at EB Games is a bit high, but people should go with the source they trust, if they prefer to import to save money, or prefer to buy locally to make it easier to get a refund or exchange.

[Tha_Phantom]

By sharing shipping with two friends and applying a 7% discount I was able to get mine for $162aud from Robotoyz. I'm happy with that.

[griffin]

I still haven't found where it was noted (at one of the BotCons I think) by someone official about the colours of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker being swapped late, but I did manage to find the Bob Budiansky panel at BotCon 2010 (http://toycollectors.com.au/bc10/bc10bb.html) that noted the original names of various first year toys, including Sunstreaker originally being called Spinout...

Stalker was changed to Ravage
Fireball was changed to Jetfire
Blowout was changed to Cliffjumper
Guzzle was changed to Trailbreaker
Sprint was changed to Windcharger
Spinout was changed to Sunstreaker
Slazer was changed to Laserbeak
Jazzz was modified to Jazz

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/bc10/p22.jpg

[DaptoDog]

Stalker was changed to Ravage
Fireball was changed to Jetfire
Blowout was changed to Cliffjumper
Guzzle was changed to Trailbreaker
Sprint was changed to Windcharger
Spinout was changed to Sunstreaker
Slazer was changed to Laserbeak
Jazzz was modified to Jazz



There's not one name there I wish wasn't changed.

[Paulbot]

I still haven't found where it was noted (at one of the BotCons I think) by someone official about the colours of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker being swapped late, but I did manage to find the Bob Budiansky panel at BotCon 2010 (http://toycollectors.com.au/bc10/bc10bb.html) that noted the original names of various first year toys, including Sunstreaker originally being called Spinout...

Stalker was changed to Ravage
Fireball was changed to Jetfire
Blowout was changed to Cliffjumper
Guzzle was changed to Trailbreaker
Sprint was changed to Windcharger
Spinout was changed to Sunstreaker
Slazer was changed to Laserbeak
Jazzz was modified to Jazz

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/bc10/p22.jpg

I'm pulling together some content trying to get as possible a best guess as to what happened back in 1984 and this is another piece of the puzzle.

Of all the name changes Spinout seems to be one of the very late ones, I believe it was printed in more materials than any of the other abandoned names.

[griffin]

I just found this one on ebay, with Sunstreaker being called Sideswipe...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/f648.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/f649.jpg

[Paulbot]

Yes I have the book those pages are from and took similar photos for my case file. :)

On another page Buster says “Spin-out” has been hit but pages later says they’ve finished fixing “Sunstreaker” and another puzzle calls Sunstreaker by that name.

https://imgur.com/a/qHfrOak

The cover above is a different book. The pages are from The Deadly Fuel Shortage. Decepticon Patrol is the book where nearly everyone is off model to a ridiculous degree.

[griffin]

Typical...
The ebay listing was selling two colouring books, with just a couple of sample images of what is inside, and since this image was next to the image of Decepticon Patrol (instead of The Deadly Fuel Shortage), I saved the image of that cover at a guess.

Here... this was the other one, from where that image was *actually* from, and was the one that actually caught my attention because of how Sideswipe is drawn in robot mode...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/f650.jpg

[Paulbot]

You were close. This particular cover always confused me as it’s a page out of the Bumblebee’s Dangerous Mission colouring book. The other cover is actually more appropriate for the story within.

I sometimes wonder why so many others don’t have a copy of all these still in their collection. I think the answer is I’m a hoarder.

So far the two in print references to Spin-Out as a name are this book and the Marvel Age article that previewed the original mini-series. Still looking for more.

[Autocon]

Do we know who the second prime truck is in the back?

[Paulbot]

Do we know who the second prime truck is in the back?

If you start asking questions like that about the colouring books you'll be here all day. I think I coloured that truck as Huffer once. On another page I coloured one of multiple Brawns as Outback.

[griffin]

The listing for Spinout on TakaraTomyMall (https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810133506/), has been updated with some character art and a bio.... which someone on TFW has translated into this (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/12/takara-tomy-masterpiece-mp-39-spinout-official-art-bio-411227)...


Rescue Assault Spinout, a homage from Diaclone, the precursor of Transformers, joins the MP series!
The color palette, dimensions, and specifications are modeled directly after Car Robot NO.1 Countach LP500S type from Diaclone.
A completely new Masterpiece branded character transforms from the Lamborghini “Supercar” LP500S to Rescue Assault team member, Spinout!
The specific variations of the original Diaclone figure have been faithfully reproduced, while maintaining the excellent articulation and vehicle mode features that were already exhibited by Sunstreaker and Cordon.
The concept of the original Car Robot NO.1 Countach LP500S type has been made into a reality with a product that strongly adheres to the modernization of Transformers.


MP-39+ Autobot Rescue Assault Spinout
CYBERTRON ASSAULT & RESCUE SPINOUT

Role: Assault Rescuer
Motto: “Trivial details aren’t suitable for extended history.”


Profile: Spinout was originally an unconscious existence as a combat machine (Car Robot) in another dimension, but was given life by an ancient computer on Cybertron and became a cognizant lifeform. Although Spinout is passionate and zealous for his fellow Autobots, he shows strong loyalty and obedience to humans. He clearly remembers his previous life as a war machine dependent on humans and has internal anxiety about fighting without a pilot.
Spinout’s vehicle form, the Lamborghini Countach LP500S, is strongly reminiscent of his mysterious and paradoxical origin.


Extended Bio: [Private recordings of Delta Magnus]: Our rushed operation to secure the remote space facility of Diadem saved vast amounts of data recordings of ancient Cybertron, but it couldn’t have come at worse costs. The facility was severely damaged by the fierce battle between Decepticons and Quintessons, and much valuable information was lost. Fortunately, I was able to recover Cordon’s memory files, but he refused to reinstall them. So, that aside, ultimately what we got… was something so completely unexpected that shakes the very history of Cybertron! A bot by the name of Spinout was discovered in the depths of Diadem. He was found in a cryo-chamber and must have been resting for the past 10 million years. In simpler terms, we found an Autobot, that has an Earth alt mode from millions of years ago! What the hell is that?!? According to the data files of Anterior Zeta on Diadem, Spinout was originally nothing more than an unwitting machine from a different Earth dimension. Nothing more than some detritus cast into our spacetime continuum. Hmm. Diaclone… That is the name of the force that Spinout belonged to. Zeta, who analyzed the anomaly, seemed to have been fascinated by the battles between the Diaclone and their enemies, the Waruders. Was Zeta losing his mind by this time? Perhaps he was infected by some alien force? I can’t be certain… Anyway, Zeta took extreme measures to lead the Autobots to Dialcone’s missions in hopes of taking command. Upon discovering the true threat of the Waruders, he created a team of professionals whose highest priority was the extermination of the Waruders, and he programmed them to infiltrate a vast array of systems via a repair network. It’s hard to believe there was such meddling in our people’s ancestry, but there are already examples. I’m speaking of the Blue Bluestreak incident, in which Bluestreak had a run in with the Waruder Insectorobos. We must take extreme measures to halt their infiltration!


If the threat of an evil Waruder invasion was immediate I know that Spinout would fight on our side. But I think it should be done out of a sense of personal freedom; not one of controlled obedience.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I prefer the Collector's Club characterisation.

[Tha_Phantom]

I prefer the Collector's Club characterisation.

Got a pic, link or copy/paste of that?

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Got a pic, link or copy/paste of that?TFWiki article (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Spin-Out_(G1)). :)

Basically he's a 'fuel preparation specialist' with some pretty bad luck. A mildly-depressed Autobot cook works way better for the (not very serious) Odieverse than a dimensionally-misplaced Diaclone-come-to-life.

[Tha_Phantom]

Basically he's a 'fuel preparation specialist' with some pretty bad luck. A mildly-depressed Autobot cook works way better for the (not very serious) Odieverse than a dimensionally-misplaced Diaclone-come-to-life.

I do like that he started out as a battle machine and doesn't feel confident fighting without a pilot, but I feel they could have somehow worked that in without making him from Earth in another dimension. Maybe he could have been built by humans (in this dimension) and given sentience later.