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GoktimusPrime
8th July 2020, 01:21 AM
Similar to the How much of G1 would you like to see done as CHUG toys thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/27256-How-much-of-G1-would-you-like-to-see-done-as-CHUG-toys), this thread is asking the same question for MP.

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G1 toys that have already been made as MPs are highlighted in blue.

Early G1 (1984-87)
(Golden Age; 1984-85)
Optimus Prime
Bluestreak
Jazz
Hound
Ironhide
Mirage
Prowl
Ratchet
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker
Wheeljack
Brawn
Bumblebee
"Bumblejumper"/"Bumper"
Cliffjumper
Gears
Huffer
Windcharger
Megatron
Soundwave
Buzzsaw
Laserbeak
Frenzy
Ravage
Rumble
Skywarp
Starscream
Thundercracker
Jetfire
Omega Supreme
Blaster
Grapple
Hoist
Inferno
Red Alert
Skids
Smokescreen
Tracks
Perceptor
Beachcomber
Cosmos
Powerglide
Seaspray
Warpath
Roadbuster
Whirl
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Swoop
Topspin
Twin Twist
Camshaft
Downshift
Overdrive
Powerdasher (Aragon)
Powerdasher (Cromar)
Powerdasher (Zetar)
Shockwave
Dirge
Ramjet
Thrust
Astrotrain
Blitzwing
Bombshell
Kickback
Shrapnel
Barrage
Chop Shop
Ransack
Venom
Bonecrusher
Long Haul
Hook
Mixmaster
Scavenger
Scrapper
Mini Spy (Buggy)
Mini Spy (Porsche)
Mini Spy (Jeep)
Mini Spy (Toyota)

(Silver Age; 1986-87)
Rodimus Prime
Ultra Magnus
Wreck Gar
Blurr
Hot Rod
Kup
Broadside
Sandstorm
Springer
Metroplex
Sky Lynx
Hubcap
Outback
Pipes
Swerve
Tailgate
Wheelie
Eject
Ramhorn
Rewind
Steeljaw
Air Raid
Fireflight
Silverbolt
Skydive
Slingshot
Blades
First Aid
Groove
Hot Spot
Streetwise
Galvatron
Cyclonus
Scourge
Octane
Gnaw
Trypticon
Runabout
Runamuck
Breakdown
Dead End
Drag Strip
Motormaster
Wildrider
Blast-Off
Brawl
Onslaught
Swindle
Vortex
Divebomb
Headstrong
Rampage
Razorclaw
Tantrum
Ratbat
Spectro
Spyglass
Viewfinder
Fortress Maximus
Brainstorm
Chromedome
Hardhead
Highbrow
Blurr (Targetmaster)
Hot Rod (Targetmaster)
Kup (Targetmaster)
Crosshairs
Pointblank
Sureshot
Cloudraker
Fastlane
Punch/Counterpunch
Doublecross
Grotusque
Repugnus
Afterburner
Lightspeed
Nosecone
Scattershot
Strafe
Chase
Freeway
Goldbug
Rollbar
Searchlight
Wideload
Scorponok
Apeface
Mindwipe
Skullcruncher
Snapdragon
Weirdwolf
Cyclonus (Targetmaster)
Scourge (Targetmaster)
Misfire
Slugslinger
Triggerhappy
Sixshot
Overkill
Slugfest
Pounce
Wingspan
Battletrap
Flywheels
Hun-Grrr
Blot
Cutthroat
Rippersnapper
Sinnertwin

Middle G1 (1989-90) Bronze Age
Optimus Prime (Powermaster)
Getaway
Joyride
Slapdash
Hosehead
Nightbeat
Siren
Landfill
Quickmix
Scoop
Catilla
Chainclaw
Cloudburst
Groundbreaker
Gunrunner
Landmine
Sky High (Pretender)
Splashdown
Waverider
Quickswitch
Backstreet
Dogfight
Override
Fizzle
Sizzle
Guzzle
Grand Slam
Raindance
Beastbox
Squawktalk
Darkwing
Dreadwind
Doubledealer
Fangry
Horri-Bull
Squeezeplay
Needlenose
Quake
Spinister
Bomb-Burst
Bugly
Carnivac
Finback
Iguanus
Roadgrabber
Skullgrin
Snarler
Submarauder
Crankcase
Ruckus
Windsweeper
Cindersaur
Flamefeather
Sparkstalker
Snaptrap
Tentakil
Nautilator
Seawing
Skalor
Overbite
Bumblebee (Pretender)
Grimlock (Pretender)
Jazz (Pretender)
Doubleheader
Longtooth
Pincher
Crossblades
Vroom
Skyhammer
Big Shot
Flak
Sidetrack
Sunrunner
High Jump
Mudslinger
Powertrain
Tote
Freewheeler
Roadhandler
Swindler
Tailspin
Fixit
Red Hot
Seawatch
Stakeout
Erector
Overload
Hot House
Ironworks
Countdown
Groundshaker
Thunderwing
Starscream (Pretender)
Bludgeon
Octopunch
Stranglehold
Birdbrain
Bristleback
Icepick
Scowl
Slog
Wildfly
Roadblock
Nightflight
Storm Cloud
Tailwind
Whisper
Blackjack
Detour
Hyperdrive
Roadhugger
Flattop
Roughstuff
Airwave
Greasepit
Skyhopper
Skystalker
Optimus Prime (Action Master)
Blaster (Action Master)
Bumblebee (Action Master)
Grimlock (Action Master)
Inferno (Action Master)
Jackpot
Jazz (Action Master)
Kick-Off
Mainframe
Over-Run
Prowl (Action Master)
Rad
Rollout
Skyfall
Snarl (Action Master)
Sprocket
Wheeljack (Action Master)
Gusher
Pipeline
Retro
Surge
Crumble
Groundpounder
Neutro
Takedown
Blaze Master
Eagle Eye
Sky High (Micromaster)
Tread Bolt
Big Daddy
Greaser
Hubs
Trip-Up
Big Hauler
Heavy Tread
Hydraulic
Slow Poke
Oiler
Power Run
Roadburner
Slide
Strikedown
Wheel Blaze
Barrage (Micromaster)
Blastmaster
Heave
Missilemaster
Moonrock
Phaser
Full-Barrel
Overflow
Axer
Banzai-Tron
Devastator (Action Master)
Gutcruncher
Krok
Megatron (Action Master)
Shockwave (Action Master)
Soundwave (Action Master) w/ Wingthing
Starscream (Action Master)
Treadshot
Bombshock
Dropshot
Growl
Tracer
Barricade
Ground Hog
Motorhead
Roller Force
Blackout
Spaceshot
Meltdown
Half-Track
Direct-Hit
Powerpunch
Fireshot
Vanquish
Excavator
Grit
Hammer
Knockout
Sledge
Stonecruncher
Cement-Head
Terror-Tread

Late G1 (1991-93) Dark Age
Powerflash
Sideswipe (Action Master)
Tracks (Action Master)
Circuit
Rumbler
Omega Spreem
Windmill
Gripper
Flame
Lightspeed (Motorvator)
Bombshell
Charger
Double Punch
Slicer
Take-Off
Thundercracker (Action Master)
Turbo Master
Overlord
Boss
Flash
Hurricane
Rotorstorm
Scorch
Thunder Clash
Rescue Force (jet)
Rescue Force 1 (claw tank)
Rescue Force 2 (dune buggy)
Rescue Force 3 (drill tank)
Falcon
Skydive (Predator)
Skyquake
Snare
Stalker
Talon
"Big Horn" (a.k.a. "Bonecrusher")
"Hooks" (a.k.a. "Hook")
"Heavy Lode" (a.k.a. "Long Haul")
"Eviscerater" (a.k.a. "Mixmaster")
"Desmond" (a.k.a. "Scavenger")
"Ventus Lamina" (a.k.a. "Scrapper")
Pyro/Spark
Deftwing
Ironfist
Aquafend
Deluge
Jetstorm
Speedstream
Rapido
Skram
Turbofire
Windbreaker
Colossus/Clench
Calcar
Fearswoop
Hawk/Eagle Eye
Snipe/Afterburner
Terradive
Tornado/Windrazor
Aquablast
Drench
Hydradread
Rage

※This list is only Hasbro G1, but yes, Star Sabre is the other Middle G1 character who exists as an MP.

Unlike CHUG where I want to see every G1 TF made, my desire is predominantly Early G1 for MPs. Yeah, I own Star Sabre but that's because it's cheaper/easier than getting a G1 Star Sabre toy (which I personally dislike) from the secondary market. Plus it was free for me. :p I got Wingthing because I didn't get MP Ratbat and it was an easy way to at least own the same mould. But yeah, I'm generally more interested in Early G1 for Masterpiece - especially the remaining first year Autobot Cars.

But What About BW MPs and MPMs?

Yes, these are welcome to be discussed in this thread too. How much of the original BW and Movieverse toys would you like to see made as MPs? The great thing about BW MPs is that there'll never be an issue with licensing. ;) And Movieverse licences are pretty easy to get, with rare exceptions like Dino/Mirage.

These mostly don't personally interest me, but I do own an MPM Bumblebee movie Bumblebee, as well as MP Optimus Primal, Cheetor and Blackarachnia (although Cheetor was a freebie). I skipped Megatron and Dinobot for BW (although I'd seriously consider getting an MP BW Grimlock) and I skipped every other MPM. Even keep on skipping MPM Barricade even though he's massively shelfwarming at half price at ToyMate. I guess Studio Series is good enough for me when it comes to newer versions of Movieverse (and even though I'm a tad selective). Optimus Primal I got for sentimental reasons (he was the very first BW toy that I got back in '96) and I bought Blackarachnia since that toy is drastically different from the original toy. Hooray for not being a Tarantulas repaint. But for the most part I'm not much of a collector for post-BW TFs.

Interestingly enough all MP lines have focused on the early years for each series. G1 MPs are mostly from Early G1. BW MPs are currently all from Season 1, and MPMs are currently all from the first live action movie (except for the one I own ;) ). This isn't at all meant to be criticism about MPs - MP has always been a very small/limited line that's meant to focus on quality over quantity.

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"Hello there, I'm a non Early BW MP!"

Okay, fine. Except for Lio Convoy (whose name is frequently mispronounced* by a lot of Anglophone fans anyway :rolleyes: ), most BW MPs so far have come from Early BW.

(*Say "Lye-Oh" Convoy, not "Lee-Oh" Convoy)

Paulbot
8th July 2020, 09:27 AM
Other: just 1984 and I’m done. All the cars from 1985 as a bonus.

Krayt
8th July 2020, 09:57 AM
I'd take any MP's NOT seperated into Gold, Silver, Bronze and Dark ages.... Just say Series 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Anything NOT combiner or Jetfire/Omega/City sized up to series 4 for me. 5 is where the cartoon nostalgia wears off (Seeing them in action with personalities) so anything Series 4 onwards is just a toy.

If they really wanted to push into 5, I'd take the Masterforce characters, but not the entire range. MP is a Japanese line anyway. Victory/Zone similar, but skip the Micromasters.

Tha_Phantom
8th July 2020, 10:04 AM
I voted 1984-1987. I'm hardly expecting anything beyond that from G1 to get done (Star Saber aside) and I don't really care personally, happy to get those in CHUG. All I desperately want from early G1 is Jazz, Mirage and Cliffjumper, anything else from that era I would buy depending on how well it was done as well as price.

GoktimusPrime
9th July 2020, 12:47 PM
I voted 1984-1987. I'm hardly expecting anything beyond that from G1 to get done (Star Saber aside) and I don't really care personally, happy to get those in CHUG.
I concur. I think that Star Sabre is a special exception because he was won the fans choice poll. Raiden is going to be the next outlier and it will be interesting to see how well that sells. I haven't accessed TakaraTOMY's online MP poll since 2017 so I don't know if subsequent surveys have included Raiden as an option, or if a sufficient number of fans have explicitly nominated the Trainbots as future MPs that they want to see made (as manual nominations is an option on the survey). But yeah, Star Sabre and the Trainbots are certainly the exception rather than the rule.

Having said that, I fully intend on buying the MP Trainbots. :p But that's because I don't own the G1 Trainbots and a full set of CHUG Trainbots don't exist (only Shouki as a redeco of Classics Astrotrain). And I'm happy to have MP Star Sabre because I don't own G1 Star Sabre.

Golden Age Early G1 MPs are near-certainties (w/ some exceptions like variants and MP45). With post-Golden Age G1 MPs I'm more selective. I skipped MP9 Rodimus Convoy but I got the cheaper MP Rodimus Prime on sale at TRU. I also got MP22 and MP28 - although both being freebies didn't hurt ;) ). I am also planning on pre-ordering MP Arcee as soon as I can. But on the other hand I did skip MP Soundblaster and MP40 Targetmaster Hot Rod, so admittedly I am more selective with post-Golden Age Early G1 MPs.


All I desperately want from early G1 is Jazz, Mirage and Cliffjumper, anything else from that era I would buy depending on how well it was done as well as price.
Yeah, if they release any new MPs on any of the Golden Age Early G1 TFs then I will just throw my money at them.
e.g. when MP Hound was out for pre-order, even as the most expensive MP Autobot Car, I just threw my money at it. I don't care. If it's a Golden Age Early G1 MP then I will buy it. My most fervent wish is for the remainder of the first year Autobot Cars to be done as MPs - Meister, Trailbreaker, Ligier, Cliff, Drag, Gong, Gears and Charger. If either of these come out then I will happily throw my money at them. I can wait for Meister and Cliff because we know that TakaraTOMY still need to work around the Porsche licensing thing, but also because I'm fine with continuing to use my BT Meister and Alternity Cliff as stand-ins for MP Jazz and Cliffjumper until they can actually exist. I can even wait on Ligier since I have Alternators Mirage (and BT Ligier). But I more desperately want Trailbreaker, Drag, Gong Gears and Charger as I don't have any BT/ALT/Alt'y versions of them (and no, my BT Overdrive doesn't count as Charger).

And naturally these outstanding G1 MPs have redeco potential too...
* Meister ---> G2 Meister, Stepper
* Trailbreaker ---> Hoist, Diaclone decos as new characters
* Ligier ---> Diaclone deco as new character
* Cliff ---> Hubcap
* Drag ---> Pipes
* Gong ---> Outback
* Charger ---> Tailgate
* Gears ---> Wave

I wish I could still access the online survey so that I could vote on or nominate these characters. I hope that those of you in Japan or with VPNs are still doing so. :)

Tha_Phantom
9th July 2020, 01:02 PM
Raiden is going to be the next outlier

I didn't mention him as an exception since he is from 1987, but he is an outlier in that he will be the first MP combiner. Really looking forward to seeing how they tackle this one.


And naturally these outstanding G1 MPs have redeco potential too...
* Meister ---> G2 Meister, Stepper
* Trailbreaker ---> Hoist, Diaclone decos as new characters
* Ligier ---> Diaclone deco as new character
* Cliff ---> Hubcap
* Drag ---> Pipes
* Gong ---> Outback
* Charger ---> Tailgate
* Gears ---> Wave

Out of those I would definitely buy:
Jazz
Diaclone Trailbreaker
Diaclone Hoist
Mirage
Diaclone Mirage
Cliffjumper
Hubcap
Pipes
Outback

I would consider buying:
Swerve
Tailgate
Stepper

I would probably not buy:
G2 Jazz
Trailbreaker
Hoist
Windcharger
Huffer
Brawn
Gears

GoktimusPrime
9th July 2020, 04:27 PM
I didn't mention him as an exception since he is from 1987, but he is an outlier in that he will be the first MP combiner. Really looking forward to seeing how they tackle this one.
Just an outlier for me as my sights are focused more on the Golden Age of Early G1, but yes, as far as Early G1 is concerned he's absolutely within that range. And there are certainly other Silver Age Early G1 TFs in MP (e.g. Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, Hot Rod). :) Devastator is the only Golden Age Early G1 gestalt, all other Early G1 gestalts are from the Silver Age, so Raiden is really no different from say Abominus or Computron. I wonder if they're also deliberately avoiding gestalts already done in CHUG. Still, if Raiden proves successful then it may prompt TakaraTOMY to make more MP gestalts in the future. Especially more Middle G1 gestalts not done in CHUG. King Poseidon is done but they could go for say MP Landcross or Dinoking (which Hasbro could redeco as Monstructor). Would also love an MP Liokaiser.

dirge
9th July 2020, 09:06 PM
I voted Golden Age. Which includes (for me) the season 1-2 cartoon bots. But I don't expect we'll ever see the Aerialbots, etc...