JP GEN Selects Volcanicus set for 2021

[griffin]

TakaraTomy have tweeted out a teaser silhouette, telling us that a new reveal is coming soon.

The image looks like the POTP Volcanicus (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/01/generations-selects-next-figure-teaser-418637), but has different kibble on the shoulders and at the back... so it could be the rumoured remould of the POTP Dinobots to homage the Dinoking combiner.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/090201.jpg

The writing on the image apparently says something like "Beast Warrior Returns"... which is just as vague as the image.

If this is another Japanese remoulded combiner team (after two sets of really expensive Seacons), it could end up being a collectors import by Hasbro, and be just as expensive.

[Paulbot]

Exclusives fatigue is a real thing. Slow down!? Or just reveal everything!? I don't know what's better?

I think they'd do a six member team, one voyager torso, and five that become limbs or guns, in the Piranacon style. Why do just five?

And there nothing's to stop them from doing Monstructor too. Why stop at 6 exclusives when you could have 12 with just some paint apps and different colour plastics.

[DELTAprime]

Please tell me this is coming in 2021. I'm a little overwhelmed by how many there are between now and December, and I haven't even ordered my Quint set yet.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I bet this will b a slow show of characters. They didn't drop all the Seacons at the same time, they did drop a set of the OTHER seacons though. I reckon we'll get waves like with the G1 Seacons and I also think it won't be released for a while (judging by the timing on the last batch.)

My Question is (as always) When will they release the awesome Armada Convoy they had?

[Sinnertwin]

Just revealed, animation accurate colour scheme dinobots & extras

https://mobile.twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1302803781671845888

[nalops]

Just revealed, animation accurate colour scheme dinobots & extras

https://mobile.twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1302803781671845888

Oh wow, that looks pretty cool. Makes me glad I didn't chase the PotP version but I have to imagine it'll be quite a bit more expensive than that version.

[Krayt]

$284 straight conversion....

[Tranceblade]

No enigma, but adds two sets of weapons for Grimlock

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

No enigma, but adds two sets of weapons for Grimlock

The Magma Blades look like the swords that came with Fall Of Cybertron Grimlock (x 2)

[DELTAprime]

So it's a cartoon accurate repaint. Given the upcoming 86 movie SS figures I'm not sure that I should invest in repaints of of the POTP toys.

[Seraphim Prime]

It looks like the colours are overall more vibrant and matched more closely to the cartoon rather than the toys.

And there are a couple of extra weapons to fill out the chest and interact with new feet. It also looks to reuse the fists developed for the Seacons.

[Paulbot]

It's basically another Unite Warriors box set but without the nice box (one assumes)!


So it's a cartoon accurate repaint. Given the upcoming 86 movie SS figures I'm not sure that I should invest in repaints of of the POTP toys.

Or perhaps the 86 Movie Studio Series figures will just be these figures, it's just that Hasbro isn't selling them as a box set?

[DELTAprime]

Or perhaps the 86 Movie Studio Series figures will just be these figures, it's just that Hasbro isn't selling them as a box set?

The 2 SS Dinobots we know of so far are Leaders.

[Bidoofdude]

Wow they look absolutely fantastic. I'm guessing this is what Takara had lined up from the beginning, before Hasbro put a stop to their separate releases at the start of PotP. I am however wary with the release of this, as Studio Series may be just around the corner. I'll wait for a look at those (or at least one of them), I don't think this is going to be flying off the shelves anyway.

[reillyd]

I?d be more concerned about it not being released here. That?s an expensive set, and unless Zing/EBGames ponies up, I can?t see it being released at retail.

[griffin]

I don't understand the price... almost AU$300 for five toys that were originally about AU$150 at retail here, and there is no resculpting or remoulding to justify the doubling of price (like we saw with the limited release Seacons, which justified their prices).

The original release of the five individual Dinobots in Japan in 2018 (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=579138&postcount=7) was 15,500yen (which is still high at about AU$200)... but to add another $100 to the price for nothing new, just doesn't make much sense to me.

Since Volcanicus (a Dinobot combiner) isn't something during the original 80s series (comic or cartoon), it doesn't even interest me to want to have a second set just to have the combined mode.
This is an easy pass for me.

Now if TakaraTomy were to do Predaking and Abominus in a slightly different (anime) deco, I'd be keen to jump on those, because I'd love to have the combined forms to display with the other 80s combiners from Combiner Wars that TT released.

[griffin]

From the TakaraTomyMall page (https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810172079/).

Transformers Generations Selects Volcanicus.
Contains - Grimlock, Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slag. (cartoon colours)
Plus 3 new weapons and alternative combiner hands/feet (possibly from Seacons).
February 2021 - 22,000yen (AU$280-300)

Product page already has two pages of mini-comic featuring the Dinobots.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/090701.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/090702.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/090703.jpg

[Tha_Phantom]

Given the upcoming 86 movie SS figures I'm not sure that I should invest in repaints of of the POTP toys.

Good point! I wasn't really interested in these, but now I'm definitely not.

[Sol_Bad]

I'll wait and see what the SS versions look like. I don't collect the SS figures at all but I'm curious to see what these 86 figures will look like.
:)

[SharkyMcShark]

Too pricey for me, but that looks absolutely amazing.

[nalops]

If you consider that some places have Deluxe for $40 and Voyager $60, you could've (but shouldn't have) paid $220 for the full set of Volcanicus.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I don't understand the price... almost AU$300 for five toys that were originally about AU$150 at retail here, and there is no resculpting or remoulding to justify the doubling of price (like we saw with the limited release Seacons, which justified their prices).

The original release of the five individual Dinobots in Japan in 2018 (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=579138&postcount=7) was 15,500yen (which is still high at about AU$200)... but to add another $100 to the price for nothing new, just doesn't make much sense to me.

Maybe they adjusted to siege pricing? Siege deluxes are now 3500 and voyager is 5500, bringing him closer to 19500 for the set. But it hasn't been that long. Cheeky buggers

Are the feet ripped from the Seacons as well?

[nalops]

Nah, Seacon feet were quite a bit different. Toes are more pointy and no toe spikes on top. They definitely took the design from the current Volcanicus feet and upgraded it. Notably you only get one pair of hands

[Skyfire]

Everything's going anime "plus" version now. I love the anime colours but feel like I'm getting suckered in - buy the G1 toy version then buy the G1 anime version for much more as a surprise release :mad:. At least this time you get Grimlock's double barrelled gun and don't have to look under every damn rock for Sludge and Snarl. Still, too pricey for me. I see what you're doing Takara Tomy...

[reillyd]

I can?t interpret the story. But the comic looks *excellent* with many cameos.
And *spoiler alert* Grimlock can now fly with wings.

[Krayt]

The comic are NOT pages... they are full on stories!

GRIMLOCK flies using the swords as wings.

Invasion on dinobot island.

Looks like powercore Grimstone needs help and enigma-ups the dinobots!

[Bidoofdude]

They look so rad, I wish we had gotten them from the start in Unite Warriors before Hasbro reaching in and stopped them. As lovestruck as I am, I shall wait patiently to see what the Studio Series versions look like (hopefully cartoon accurate too).

Maybe Snarl could’ve got a dino head retool from the really narrow G1 toy head to something more flat wedge-shaped, a bit part of his look in my opinion.

[Deano85]

Need to see him with some of the POTP hands plugged into his waist section like the original to fill out it out.

[Paulbot]

I can?t interpret the story. But the comic looks *excellent* with many cameos.
And *spoiler alert* Grimlock can now fly with wings.

A translation here: https://mohairtranslations.wordpress.com/2020/09/07/translation-volcanicus-comic-1-and-2/

[Seraphim Prime]

Reading the comic a second time, it basically then also places all the toys post PotP, including Siege and Earthrise in the 2050 future that they have set up.

Prime is in his Earthrise form, Megatron looks to be Earthrise too, and then there are plenty of Siege and Earthrise cameos in the background, including PotP Jazz.

[Sinnertwin]

$210 + post from OMP
That price makes it slightly more appealing

[griffin]

TakaraTomy have released a couple of images (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/16/takara-tomy-genenerations-selects-volcanicus-pack-voyager-grimlock-production-sample-images-419656), showing the differences between Grimlock in this set and the original POTP version.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

TakaraTomy have released a couple of images (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/16/takara-tomy-genenerations-selects-volcanicus-pack-voyager-grimlock-production-sample-images-419656), showing the differences between Grimlock in this set and the original POTP version.

Relly nice colours. but the tail is fat n chunky.

Here is a link to a Swoop comparison
https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1306503156805832705?s=20

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Did the comic
https://tetstoys.blogspot.com/2020/09/volcanicus-dinobots-manga-translation_19.html

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Tak Tom Tweeted a comparison of SLudge
https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1307227929626259457?s=20

[griffin]

I'm just not feeling the minor redecos enough to spend a significant amount of money for these.
I don't know what they were thinking, charging so much more for such insignificant redecos of toys that they just had released in Japan 2 years ago.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I'm just not feeling the minor redecos enough to spend a significant amount of money for these.
I don't know what they were thinking, charging so much more for such insignificant redecos of toys that they just had released in Japan 2 years ago.

I feel exactly the same. Sure they look nicer, but I already forked out for most of them during POTP. They don't look good enough for me to want to buy them again. And it'll be easier and cheaper for me to do so than many other people.

Plus the biggest flaw I think is wide Grimlock, who is still wide in Dino mode.

[griffin]

Tweeted comparison of Slug (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1306865546378579970?s=09) (Slag).

[Bidoofdude]

I'm just not feeling the minor redecos enough to spend a significant amount of money for these.
I don't know what they were thinking, charging so much more for such insignificant redecos of toys that they just had released in Japan 2 years ago.

This set really should have come out when the mould were new. I would not have bought the PotP versions had Takara put out their own release for Unite Warriors at the time. I absolutely love the decos, but it’s a little too late, especially with new voyager ones coming potentially very soon anyway.

[Krayt]

Welp....

Zing just listed this... for $500 :mad:

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/product/collectibles/267893-transformers-takara-tomy-generations-selects-tt-gs11-volcanicus-figure

[Sinnertwin]

Welp....

Zing just listed this... for $500 :mad:

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/product/collectibles/267893-transformers-takara-tomy-generations-selects-tt-gs11-volcanicus-figure

Hahahahahahahaha

[SharkyMcShark]

For that price you're like 80-90% of the way to a Third Party combiner anyway lol

[BruiseLee]

Welp....

Zing just listed this... for $500 :mad:

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/product/collectibles/267893-transformers-takara-tomy-generations-selects-tt-gs11-volcanicus-figure

Ouch...so US$200 = AU$500 now? :(

[reillyd]

It may be even worse than that. Robot kingdom has it prices for US $159, so even if you double it with the exchange rate it should come out around 318. $400 would be extravagant. I don?t know what price they were offered the set, but it really seems overly expensive. I get that its a TakaraTomyMall exclusive, but still.

[Sinnertwin]

It may be even worse than that. Robot kingdom has it prices for US $159, so even if you double it with the exchange rate it should come out around 318. $400 would be extravagant. I don?t know what price they were offered the set, but it really seems overly expensive. I get that its a TakaraTomyMall exclusive, but still.

If OMP with a single retail outlet can get them in for $210 + post & still turn a profit, & EBGames/Zing with multiple stores across Australia charges $499, there is something seriously wrong with this equation.

I could buy 20 myself, put a $100 margin on top and still come out $150 cheaper each than EB.

[Tha_Phantom]

If OMP with a single retail outlet can get them in for $210 + post & still turn a profit, & EBGames/Zing with multiple stores across Australia charges $499, there is something seriously wrong with this equation.

Agreed. It also hurts the Transformers brand as well, as many people think $500 is the actual price for the set full stop and won't go looking anywhere else.

[Bidoofdude]

Agreed. It also hurts the Transformers brand as well, as many people think $500 is the actual price for the set full stop and won't go looking anywhere else.

Besides the usual EB markup, I do think a lot of products like this at retailers like EB are very much preying upon people who recognise Transformers from their childhood but have no in depth grasp on general prices or products. Its status as a collector item as well will probably convince a disproportionate amount of people, given that many collectables in such stores are in a similar price range for genres with a lot of overlap such as superhero prop replicas, lightsabers, statues and figurines, etc.

I think the logic is quite similar for the pretty needlessly expensive reissues. Most who recognise them at a glance as toys from their childhood have no idea what price range to look for.

[griffin]

The pricing still makes no sense because we've seen how cheap items can be at eb, based on what hasbro sells them at.
Sometimes I think that someone at hasbro Asia gets the currency converter wrong from time to time.

[griffin]

The rest of the comparison photos by TakaraTomy (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/21/takara-tomy-genenerations-selects-volcanicus-pack-sludge-snarl-volcanicus-production-sample-images-419965), of Snarl and the combined mode.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Finished my Translation of the second part of the Volcanicus comic.

https://tetstoys.blogspot.com/2020/10/volcanicus-dinobots-comic-translation.html

[reillyd]

Finished my Translation of the second part of the Volcanicus comic.

https://tetstoys.blogspot.com/2020/10/volcanicus-dinobots-comic-translation.html

Many thanks Tetsuwan for another beautiful translation

[Lint]

Just got an email from Ohmyprimus saying it's now in stock.