New toy reveal Thursday NOV 5th - SS-72 MV6 Starscream

[griffin]

UPDATE - date has changed to November 5th. Details and times to be posted up later.

If everything goes according to plan (does it ever though?), Australia will be revealing a new Transformers toy on Friday, that won't be released until April 2021.

This was originally planned to be done at the Sydney Hasbro office in July as another fan-meet reveal, but Covid prevented that... and then it was moved to October (with a different toy), and once again Covid made it too risky to have it held in their offices... so we might be having the reveal done in Brisbane on that day, if the toy sample arrives in time... posted on our facebook page to keep to Hasbro's exact timeslot.
It won't be a fan-meet reveal, as the exact time that we can post up the images and/or video is during work hours (10am Brisbane, 11am Sydney/Melbourne), and if we did a meet-up before Friday, the toy details or images are likely to be leaked, and we probably wouldn't get any more Australian reveals (it might also get some negative publicity from other parts of the country/world if we have a group of people in close proximity at this time, even if it is allowed in Brisbane).
Instead, fans will be able to come around on the weekend (not as a set time all at once) to explore the toy (be one of the first fans in the world, 5-6 months before it gets released) and post up their own opinions and photos on their websites and socials in the days after the official reveal... but details on that will be posted up on Friday (if the toy arrives).

If the toy sample doesn't show up, or something else unforeseen happens, the new toy will still be revealed later that day by Hasbro America and the various online stores that will be allowed to list their pre-orders that day.

No details will be given before the reveal, as this is one reveal I would like to see surprise everyone, as I haven't seen it listed anywhere on the rumours/leaks listings. (I haven't told anyone what it is either, even my most trusted friends, so don't bother probing any of them either.)
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[valkyrie_76]

Only thing I'm waiting for on this date is "the Mandalorian" :cool:

So this will be interesting then hopefully.

[Felix]

^ new Transformers x The Mandalorian crossover confirmed then? :D

[griffin]

Typical... right after i spread the word about a toy reveal coming on Friday, a last minute change by Hasbro america has pushed back the reveal 1 week to NOV 5th. (This topic will be updated, and on facebook, when the new details are verified.)
They did the same thing with the announcement of CW Devastator being re-released, after spending a few weeks working out the details for the posting.
It now gives more time for it to be leaked before we reveal it.

As I warned in the first posting, nothing ever goes according to plan. :(

[1AZRAEL1]

Bloody hell. I do hope it stays a secret and not some sod who wants to make a name for himself by being the first to announce it.

[griffin]

2 days to go (five hours ago).

Some clues posted up on fb so far - it's a Decepticon Voyager, that is NOT supposed to be a store exclusive... which rules out GEN Selects, Japanese, reissues and anything one-off.

That leaves Kingdom, Studio Series, Cyberverse, Authentics and Rescue Bots (hey, it could happen). :p

[Autocon]

Hmmm rules out any predicons so not fireant inferno :(

[nalops]

Galvatron?

[dirge]

Is it Time Warrior?

[reillyd]

Is it Time Warrior?

It is, isn?t it? I can see a Time Warrior watch with LCD display being marketable compared to say, the iWatch.

[dirge]

It is, isn?t it? I can see a Time Warrior watch with LCD display being marketable compared to say, the iWatch.

Yeah plus he’s an Autobot. This one was for Griffin’s eye. It’s an oblique reference.

[Krayt]

Cyclonus will get his ARMADA!!!!!

[DELTAprime]

I'm going to be shocked if it's something that hasn't been leaked already.

[Swordmaster543]

Clue number 72 - the toy is a new mould... with a very small amount of recycled parts. (You'll see what I mean)

Studio series 72, Decepticon Voyager, new mould, recycled parts

its garbagebot

[reillyd]

Yeah plus he’s an Autobot. This one was for Griffin’s eye. It’s an oblique reference.

That wasn?t (intended as) a dig Dirge. Time Warrior was one of my favourite Transformers growing up, and I?d kill for a replica to be released. I remember a few years ago a sealed one went up on eBay, and I agonised over whether to bid for what would end up an obscene amount.

My mother wrote a handwritten letter to Hasbro as we couldn?t quite afford the money to get enough Robot Points to get it, and some kind hearted admin soul processed it with insufficient points. It kills me that I no longer have it, and that I?m to OCD to deal with a ?used? one.

I just thought it was unlikely to be that if Voyager sized. But a HasLab replica - that I would buy.

[Krayt]

Clue number 72 - the toy is a new mould... with a very small amount of recycled parts. (You'll see what I mean)

72 was eHobby Overcharge (Blitzwing repaint)

D-72 was Octone

[valkyrie_76]

Is it time yet?

[nalops]

Is it time yet?

4 pm Brisbane time.

[valkyrie_76]

4 pm Brisbane time.

Damn, I was reading the first post saying 10am :rolleyes:

[Tha_Phantom]

72 was eHobby Overcharge (Blitzwing repaint)

D-72 was Octone

I suppose since we got a new Astrotrain (who was barely a leader) we could also get a voyager update of Octane.

[DELTAprime]

4pm.

[Jaxius._]

4pm.

4 minutes late, time to riot

[1AZRAEL1]

Getting excited

[SharkyMcShark]

2 06pm. Its the lies that hurt the most.

[valkyrie_76]

Thats it......riot time!!!!

Holding out on us :D

[1AZRAEL1]

Video is taking time to upload according to FB. Give it time. If it takes too long he'll post up the pictures

[Paulbot]

He just never has any luck with technology

[Bidoofdude]

The discussion on TFW has been leaning towards BW Ravage. Guess we’re about to see.

[Ravagecat]

That's it! I'm heading over to bash on his door! :cool:

[Thurmus]

Video is taking time to upload according to FB. Give it time. If it takes too long he'll post up the pictures

Has he tried logging off and back on again?

[Seraphim Prime]

Has he tried logging off and back on again?

He has to find The Internet box first.

[Jaxius._]

its obvious the decepticons don't want their information public

[DELTAprime]

Might I suggest trying something that is NOT Facebook?

[Jaxius._]

its up,

SS tetrajet

[DELTAprime]

Spoilers...



Sigh. It's a Bayformer. :(

[Swordmaster543]

Studio series 72, Decepticon Voyager, new mould, recycled parts

its garbagebot

Almost correct :p

[griffin]

Facebook posting link, of the video (https://www.facebook.com/ozformers/videos/381822676571201/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDj2Prs2O3CSlteKnVJGsamZlviovw peXmEcRIwtoctiAIN315j94SLRhtIZXdaGDAgeqNsw4lIhB6GX NMa62CO-pEs2Nq7h5l31hlQbKnZaLo15HucIau3O5efBjRmcjGs5Akzh9Y W8aGs5l3VO2Yic1DLn9kpItdxRgtUKRUQatYbhpIYs_r4NOSrs NoqcP4sUcGWNeupa1dbSqgtJMNhRxgyHd6j7S3q6OrTjkZ12Fq SzYgvuBTz-V0xyFTKwHa2960S86JPl0eaZORtLElb6rGIT__bQoKUltBkeJm HTuUmyKrP53M1cry0KO-ruduBrjt9Td4z&__tn__=-R).

I had to do it on facebook for convenience... as it is easier for everyone else to share, without me having to do too much extra work.

[Zippo]

Is that Australia's NBN showing how fantastic it is ?

Could have had the video uploaded in 4k on New Zealand's hyperfiber (4 Gigabit up/down).

[nalops]

Huh, not what I expected. I imagine we'll see a few repaints of this mold. Wait, that means there's at least a SS 70 and 72 that we don't know about although 1 of these could easily be that Bumblebee with Sam.

[Deonasis]

Nice one griffin! Good reveal and thorough summary/comparisons :cool:

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Wow, that was a surprise and half. I gotta admit it looks pretty cool! Very impressive retool!

Nice catch there Griff!!

[optimus1]

Oh wow!
Looking much better when in these colours :)

Wouldn't mind getting one of these!

Thanks for the reveal!

[Kyle]

That was a fun video that I enjoyed, and a toy unexpected which I now look forward to getting. Thanks griffin and thanks Hasbro :)

[Sinnertwin]

Congratulations on the reveal
As for the figure, I can't even feign interest in another StarWarpCracker

[griffin]

First of my photos... posted here first of course. :)

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These are two ILM images of the Seeker jets, to show what Hasbro were trying to replicate with this mould, which I expect will be redecoed a few times. These images show that the big chunky robot turns into a very sleek jet with almost no bulk in it, so the actual toy had to put the kibble somewhere... and in all fairness, I think they did the best they could do, with what they had to work with, because you still have the same gun-pod of the ILM image at the front of the toy, in front of the kibble.
If you look at the character models of the bots that had Cybertronian modes, I think they were thrown together in a hurry without any intention of allowing for toys, so we might not see too many of them, and if we do, they will be like Starscream, with kibble to sacrifice.
I also think that the reason why Blitzwing and Starscream look very similar as bots is like in the original 80s cartoon, in that they had different alt-modes, but maintained the same robot mode in the movie (this is despite the claim that Blitzwing was originally meant to be Starscream in the Movie, as it has the same issue of different alt-modes based on the planet they are on).
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Is that Australia's NBN showing how fantastic it is ?

Could have had the video uploaded in 4k on New Zealand's hyperfiber (4 Gigabit up/down).

I don't have NBN... I couldn't get it in the house I'm in, so I have to use my mobile phone data, and I'm in a bit of a black spot, as it cuts out a lot (online and phone calls).
I would have loved to put up a better copy, but that one took ages at a fairly low resolution, which is why I want to do a LOT of photos while I still have the toy (even if official images come out soon, as they are often only from one angle, and often hiding the flaws of the toy).


Wow, that was a surprise and half. I gotta admit it looks pretty cool! Very impressive retool!

It's a completely new mould... not a single re-used part that I can see.
I will post up side-by-side photos of both toys in robot mode (because the jet modes are obviously completely different).

[i_amtrunks]

Thanks for sitting on the secret for so long without trying to be an internet spoiler/attention hog!

It's not a figure that excites me, but I hope all those who enjoy the original can enjoy the repaints as well.

[griffin]

Second lot of photos...

Packaging photos.

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Comparison to Blitzwing's box.

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My collection of Studio Series boxes so far, with SS-72 in there temporarily. (currently missing SS-48 Universal Studios Megatron & SS-69 Devastator)
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/110519.jpg

[DELTAprime]

Oh god, you're collecting the boxes?!? You're a mad man, Griff. :p

[griffin]

Third set of photos, showing that every part of Starscream is different to every part of Blitzwing, even if those parts look similar at first glance...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/110520.jpg

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A closer look at abdomen and the inside panels of the arms and legs.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/110528.jpg

And showing how they have completely different engineering as well, with Blitzwing having the main hinge including the shoulders but not the head, while Starscream only hinges with the panel that has the head, with the shoulders staying still.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/110529.jpg

[Tranceblade]

Can you let Hasbro know that the eyes aren't painted properly?
Referring to the facial structure in the box art, the figure itself has had its lower eyelid painted red.

[griffin]

The fourth and final set of photos for tonight, of the Jet mode.
(tomorrow I'll look at doing comparison photos with Blitzwing in jet mode, but I need to transform it first, and I'm too tired tonight - I also want to do another comparison photo of the jet mode with other "tetra-jets", which would include the two that I forgot in the video)

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[reillyd]

Starscream is just beautiful, and I know this toy is going to hold a very special place in my Starscream collection. I?m really quite surprised, as I had assumed that if we ever did get a movie Starscream from the Bumbleverse, that it would just be a minor repaint or remould of the existing Blitzwing mold.

But Hasbro has done something completely different here- there?s too many differences for it to be a retool. Rather I think they?ve either gone for a similar aesthetic, or they?ve reused elements at the design level rather than retooling parts. The Tetra-jet looks breathtaking from above (less so from below with the kibble) but I still really love it. But so long to wait before we see it on shelves....... first world problems, right?

[Thurmus]

Hey Griffin, I wanted to thank you for handling this reveal professionally and following the rules laid down by Hasbro. I also liked the touch of making sure you distanced your comments as your own.

Hopefully this goes as a massive tick in the trust box against your name with Hasbro and could lead to further interaction between them and the Australian fan base.

[Zippo]

Seibertron notes it was Entertainment Earth that broke the news: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-studio-series-72-starscream-from-the-bumblebee-movie-revealed/45399/

[reillyd]

I watched the video a second time, as I wanted to have a real detailed look at this toy. That plus the extra photos has me wanting it even more. So cool that that you got an exclusive to reveal Griffin, and I think you did an excellent and fair job of reviewing it (e.g. not an employee of Hasbro, comments my own). Well done!

If I could just ask, as I think they might be molded but could just be really well done stickers: in robot mode, Starscream G1 had his classic red shoulders where you?d put a sticker, and this effect is replicated in the Bumblebee Starscream. But are those etchings actually molded into the figure? They looked like they were, which would be a first for a Starscream figure and is a nice innovation.

[MayzaPrime]

Such an awesome reveal... Nice work Grif!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Nice work on the reveal Griff.

Re the toy itself, it's not really doing it for me...I like the Blitzwing take (not super-keen on the jet mode but it's alright) but the alt-mode on this one is pretty weak IMO.

[griffin]

Seibertron notes it was Entertainment Earth that broke the news: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-studio-series-72-starscream-from-the-bumblebee-movie-revealed/45399/

Considering our reveal had 8 hours of global sharing before Hasbro and online stores were posting up alerts for the pre-orders, I find it hard to believe that none of their news staff knew about our reveal first, or made it known on their news page that my photos and video were the first reveal.
It has been a while since they used my images or info without credit, but this "oversight" and lack of correction is almost as bad.


I wanted the images and video shared, to make sure Hasbro didn't think I was capitalising off their generosity (by limiting its access to paid members or making money off it by putting it on youtube to be monetised), I'm more concerned about people sharing the images without any credit or link to the source.

[griffin]

If I could just ask, as I think they might be molded but could just be really well done stickers: in robot mode, Starscream G1 had his classic red shoulders where you?d put a sticker, and this effect is replicated in the Bumblebee Starscream. But are those etchings actually molded into the figure? They looked like they were, which would be a first for a Starscream figure and is a nice innovation.

Those are indeed moulded.

[Bidoofdude]

Considering our reveal had 8 hours of global sharing before Hasbro and online stores were posting up alerts for the pre-orders, I find it hard to believe that none of their news staff knew about our reveal first, or made it known on their news page that my photos and video were the first reveal.
It has been a while since they used my images or info without credit, but this "oversight" and lack of correction is almost as bad.


I wanted the images and video shared, to make sure Hasbro didn't think I was capitalising off their generosity (by limiting its access to paid members or making money off it by putting it on youtube to be monetised), I'm more concerned about people sharing the images without any credit or link to the source.

The Seibertron article also claims that Starscream shares parts with Blitzwing, which seems to be untrue from the reveal.

[griffin]

The Seibertron article also claims that Starscream shares parts with Blitzwing, which seems to be untrue from the reveal.

If they had seen our reveal (first) they would have known that it has zero shared parts.

[Bidoofdude]

If they had seen our reveal (first) they would have known that it has zero shared parts.

Hard to say, possibly just an understandable mistake. For example, a lot of the folks on TFW (where your reveal is the topic of discussion) are acting under the assumption still that it is a Blitzwing retool.

[griffin]

Some more photos, showing how these two look very similar in robot mode, but have completely different alt-modes and engineering (transformations).

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And after having it pointed out that there were two more Cybertronian Tetrajets, this pic shows all five (Siege, Titanium, Studio Series, the first WFC, Cybertron).
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/110804.jpg

[griffin]

Hard to say, possibly just an understandable mistake. For example, a lot of the folks on TFW (where your reveal is the topic of discussion) are acting under the assumption still that it is a Blitzwing retool.


I was just scrolling back on seibertron, and they even announced the upcoming toy reveal as a new posting the week before (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/ozformers-will-have-a-tf-reveal-nov-5th-more-info-on-netflix-tf-toys-in-australia/45388/)... so someone knew about it.
And no matter how many times I say it, and no matter how many pictures I post up, the similar looking robot mode just screams retool/remould. Even I thought it at least had recycled parts until a few days before the reveal.

[griffin]

Not sure if the official images and info was noted here (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/11/05/cybertron-starscream-transformers-studio-series-72-official-pics-pre-orders-live-423526).


This Studio Series 72 Voyager Class Transformers: Bumblebee-inspired Starscream figure converts from robot to tetrajet mode in 31 steps. Remove backdrop to showcase Starscream in the Cybertron Falls scene. In the Cybertron Falls scene from Transformers: Bumblebee, the Autobot resistance retreats to escape the planet as Cybertron falls under Decepticon control. Starscream and the seekers destroy the Autobot launchpad in an effort the prevent their escape. Pose the figure out with the included Null Ray accessories and imagine recreating this classic movie moment!
Includes: figure, 2 accessories, removable backdrop, and instructions.


Voyager Class figures are 6.5-inch collectible action figures inspired by iconic movie scenes and designed with specs and details to reflect the Transformers movie universe, now including The Transformers: The Movie!
Figure features vivid, movie-inspired deco, is highly articulated for posability, and comes with 2 Null Ray accessories inspired by the film
Figure scale reflects the character’s size in the world of The Transformers: The Movie. Figure and packaging are inspired by the iconic Cybertron Falls scene
Figure features classic conversion between robot and tetrajet modes in 31 steps. Perfect for fans looking for a more advanced converting figure. For kids and adults ages 8 and up
Removable backdrop displays Starscream figure in the Cybertron Falls scene. Fans can use the backdrop and pose their figures in the scene with their own style



It is saying that this toy is due out in July 2021... which is 8 months away... a really long time for pre-ordering a regular release item.

[Krayt]

He just listed on Zing with a May date....

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/product/toys-gadgets/269109-transformers-studio-series-72-voyager-starscream

[Tha_Phantom]

One thing that bugs me about this is the colour of the cockpit. That yellow is very bright and not clear enough for my liking.
Otherwise, a great looking figure in both modes. Look forward to grabbing as many variants of these as they make.

[griffin]

Ravagecat has posted up some additional photos of Starscream on his Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/soundwavescat/).

The Starscream Samples are now on their way back to America.
I ended up having three people coming around to play with them over the weekend. (I thought there would be more interest... I guess it didn't end up being a toy that fans were too interested in. On the plus side, one person from our facebook page was here for about 3 hours, naming most of my toys despite only being 19 and having a much smaller collection... it was fun for both of us.)

[griffin]

Some final photos from Studio Series Starscream... since the toy samples are already on their way back to America.

The instructions sheet!

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And one last group shot of Starscream with other Cybertronian Tetrajet (styled) toys. (I'd already posted up the jet mode photo, but including it here again with this one)

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/111401.jpg

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[griffin]

New official toy images have been released (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/13/transformers-studio-series-ss-72-starscream-bumblebee-movie-packaging-stock-images-427266), which show a Starscream toy that isn't broken. (the images they released in November were done with a broken toy, which was what they sent to me)