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griffin
14th August 2021, 11:36 AM
Announced at the Fan First Friday live stream by Hasbro is a new licensed item that they are helping design and promote.

A Gen1 Chess set is going through a kickstarter process, by Eaglemoss... who is a well established company of over 20 years that does subscription part-works (things like model kits you get one part at a time, or mini-models & chess sets that each piece comes with a book), so they aren't really a company that needs to do a kickstarter, but I think it would be a way to make a lot more profit from the different price-points, and from only producing the exact amount being pre-paid for (which would be cheaper to produce as the numbers go higher - as the prices are calculated to make a profit from the minimum production numbers, but they don't need to pass on the savings if they produce more than that minimum).

The Kickstarter can be seen here (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eaglemoss/transformers-gen-1-chess-set/), but when it closes, images and details can be seen here (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/08/13/transformers-generation-1-chess-set-kickstarter-campaign-live-439272).

It is very expensive if you want the complete set, but I don't think it ships to Australia.
The site converts to au$, but that might just be a default setting of the Kickstarter site, and not a decision by Eaglemoss with their listing.
The site says that it ships to US, UK, Canada, Russia and Brazil.
If you are interested, perhaps contact them to see if it also ships here. If they don't, you may need to find a friend in one of those countries and trust them with your money and purchase in 15 months time.

The project has a backer period of NOW until September 21st 2021, and is planned to be shipped out December 2022.

The chess board is about 60cm by 60cm, and the pieces are 10 to 15cm tall (including base), and are 32 different Gen1 characters (plus 2 bonus pieces if you back the full amount).
The bonus 272 page book details (just?) the 32 characters in the chess set, and reviews the cartoon episodes and 1986 Movie.

Their total minimum goal is us$300,000, with so far 62 backers pledging a combined us$30,000 with 41 days to go. Plenty of time, but the biggest backing periods are the first day (from the impulsive hardcore fans) and the last week (from those who have budgeted and not rushed into a decision).

The backing levels...

- US$700 (currently converts to au$950 on the site) gets you everything - full Chess set (board & 32 pieces), plus both bonus Kings (Rodimus & Galvatron), plus 272 page info book, and pin.
(as of this posting, there are 36 people who have backed the full set, after 10 hours... I'm not sure if that is a good thing)

- US$650 (currently converts to au$890 on the site) gets you - full Chess set (board & 32 pieces), plus ONE bonus King (Galvatron), plus 272 page info book, and pin.

- US$600 (currently converts to au$820 on the site) gets you - full Chess set (board & 32 pieces), plus 272 page info book, and pin.

- US$50 (currently converts to au$70 on the site) gets you - Optimus Prime chess piece, plus pin.

- US$10 (currently converts to au$15 on the site) gets you - Optimus/Megatron pin.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/081420.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/081421.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/081422.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/081423.jpg

The full package at us$700 is more than the 3rd version of Masterpiece Optimus, more than the Haslab Unicron, and about the same as that remote control Robosen Optimus figure that comes out this year... between those things and the $1000+ statues targeting dedicated fans, the hobby is really getting very expensive lately. I kinda miss the days when it was just a retail toyline with a handful of store exclusives to track down, and maybe some assorted licensed non-toy goodies.

The selection of characters bugs me. The Autobot pieces focus on several 1986 Movie characters, but the Decepticon pieces focus on a range of the first three years of the original cartoon, without Scourge or Cyclonus. Like, why is Brawl included as the sole 1986 combiner when there are other characters that could have better fit the cast of 16 Decepticons on this chess board. I would have had all five 1984 cassettes as pawns, and maybe with the three Insecticons. The eight at the back row are a good selection of mostly first season Decepticons, but then having at the front one Combaticon, one Constructicon and one Conehead doesn't make as much sense (especially when you have 3 seekers at the back, an "equal" seeker at the front conflicts with the point of pawns being smaller and less significant/powerful).
As for the Autobots, to me it would have made more sense to have 8 1984/85 Minibots at the front, and seven of the eleven 1984 Autobot cars in the back row with Optimus, instead of 3 Movie characters (and a 4th at the front) that don't have any Decepticon equivalents (like Cyclonus or Scourge) on the board with them.

The thing that concerns me is that the pieces are noted as being "hand painted"... I would prefer that they are done by machine, as hand painting could result in paint errors or omissions that you wouldn't be able to exchange... and applying all of those tiny paint details on hundreds of small figures is something I wouldn't want to do, so wouldn't want to have people in low paid Asian factories doing it.

DELTAprime
14th August 2021, 11:54 AM
Very cool, but overpriced.

griffin
14th August 2021, 12:05 PM
I agree...
I was really excited to get it when I first saw it revealed, but then the price and character choices (and the 15 month wait) has made me decide against it.

1AZRAEL1
14th August 2021, 12:36 PM
The price killed it for me. Really cool, but way outta my price range

Trent
14th August 2021, 08:34 PM
Those prices are insane. I know there are expensive chess sets out there, but they generally look like they are worth the money. This looks like it should be available at Kmart.

Bladestorm
15th August 2021, 12:06 PM
It's very cool and very tempting but the price makes it hard to commit to without seeing the in-hand detail on them. Maybe I'm spoilt by all the shows I've been to where they had the prototypes on display to give comfort in what you're backing. The other thing that surprises me about this is Eaglemoss not simply committing to it like they do with other franchises or is their new marketing model? I'd be more likely to take it seriously if the company didn't have to tease it as a kickstarter.

I also find the Decepticon lineup a bit odd and agree with Griff that they could have made better use of the minibots as pawns.

I guess we'll see what comes of it

SarhBear
15th August 2021, 01:42 PM
Was definitely taken aback when I saw the price, but it also looks like a pretty sizeable thing compared to other licensed chess sets I've seen so maybe it justifies it?

Definitely well above my grade tho lol

Seraphim Prime
16th August 2021, 01:36 PM
Has anyone looked into the DC and Marvel chess sets that they did?

Just running some quick numbers from their American DC chess set - https://en-us.eaglemoss.com/hero-collector/dc-comics/dc-chess

The standard price of $17 + $2.50 P&H (USD) means that a full set of 32 runs you $630 USD or $680 USD for a premium set (2 alternate pieces).


So basically the price is equivalent to their other sets, just in a different delivery module because they're less certain they could make the minimum threshold (noting people often don't complete whole sets of the single issue releases).

1AZRAEL1
16th August 2021, 02:38 PM
I did get the buy the Batman set from newsagents, probably cost about as much as this. But paying each fortnight/month was easier to handle. But also note, some pieces were less than stellar paint jobs. For a premium product and price, I would expect better.

High_Q
16th August 2021, 03:53 PM
So basically the price is equivalent to their other sets, just in a different delivery module because they're less certain they could make the minimum threshold (noting people often don't complete whole sets of the single issue releases).

As someone who doesn't play chess and who isn't interested in the chess board, but who's interested in getting one or two of the pieces here, i wish they also offered the single issues option.

griffin
5th September 2021, 08:52 PM
After 4 weeks they still only have 101 backers of the full set, and still about 25% of the way to their goal total dollar amount.... and only 3 weeks left to go.

They have announced (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eaglemoss/transformers-gen-1-chess-set/) an "unlock", of a third bonus piece - Wreckgar as a replacement Knight.
I didn't realise or notice before that there were going to be any bonus unlocked items, but the thing that I find strange is that it is NOT a bonus after they reach its minimum target amount... it is a bonus on the way to the target amount, which means that everyone buying the full set will get it anyway, along with the other two bonus pieces.

They need us$300,000 for the project to go ahead, but this bonus unlock is when they reach us$100,000... so I wonder if it was originally planned to be a bonus unlock after they reached us$300,000, but had to offer it as an added incentive right now, because they are struggling to get to a third of the way.

Tetsuwan Convoy
7th September 2021, 09:31 AM
I don't mind chess and when I first saw the news, I was interested. But looking at this set, I just really find it ugly to look at. There's no cohesion to the pieces and it just comes across looking somewhat tacky. I'll be very surprised if it makes it through.

DELTAprime
25th September 2021, 11:21 AM
TFW said the set didn't get funded.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/09/24/checkmate-transformers-generation-1-chess-set-not-funded-441754

Jaxius._
25th September 2021, 02:49 PM
Surprising no one

It was only announced a few months ago and had an absurd price not to mention it was beyond niche

Seraphim Prime
28th September 2021, 08:46 PM
It's an interesting one to see as those who wanted it jumped in early and then it went no where.

They really only realised at the end that they might get people interested in just the statues or the book, but that didn't appear to help the overall total.

The set was also strangely set up with the pieces - the Decepticon value pieces were pretty cohesive S1 cast, but the Autobots were much more of a mish mash

I did a quick list of what a S1 set (with 2 S2 intruders) would look like and it felt much more cohesive




Autobot
Decepticon


Knight
Optimus Prime
Megatron


Queen
Elita-1
Starscream


Bishop (k)
Jazz
Skywarp


Bishop (q)
Alpha Trion
Thundercracker


Knight (k)
Prowl
Soundwave


Knight (q)
Wheeljack
Shockwave


Rook (k)
Ironhide
Astrotrain


Rook (q)
Ratchet
Blitzwing


Pawns
Bumblebee
Rumble



Hound
Frenzy



Bluestreak
Laserbeak



Sideswipe
Ravage



Sunstreaker
Reflector



Cliffjumper
Shrapnel



Mirage
Bombshell



Windcharger
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