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DELTAprime
19th January 2022, 12:09 PM
I just realised we don't have a dedicated Legacy thread, so let's kick off one with Core Class Skywarp and Iguarus official reveals.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-legacy-iguanus-and-skywarp-revealed/46615/

Mods feel free to do the usual mirroring and inserting of images.

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DELTAprime
19th January 2022, 12:12 PM
I'm really happy with Iguarus. While there is no Pretender shell, it still pays homage to the G1 character well. I hope we get more of these.

Tranceblade
19th January 2022, 12:58 PM
Wave 1 core class weapons combine, of which the entire assembled weapon is shown held by Hot Rod on his Kingdom packaging

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/885370735227441170/933159900551475220/Screenshot_20220118-171722_Twitter.png

Skyfire
19th January 2022, 06:16 PM
No null rays for Skywarp. Instead he gets a horseshoe magnet. Geez.

Bidoofdude
19th January 2022, 06:22 PM
What is Iguanus from? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of him.

Sinnertwin
19th January 2022, 07:53 PM
G1 Pretender

Paulbot
19th January 2022, 10:27 PM
Seems odd for Skywarp to not have the weapons presumably part of the molds.

Have a soft spot for Iguanus, one of my childhood Pretenders, and I’m good with shell-into-vehicle-mode approaches to these guys. (A deluxe woulda been nicer though ideally)

Autocon
19th January 2022, 10:36 PM
I like it but was hoping for bw version lil frill neck

Tetsuwan Convoy
19th January 2022, 11:29 PM
Seems odd for Skywarp to not have the weapons presumably part of the molds.

Have a soft spot for Iguanus, one of my childhood Pretenders, and I’m good with shell-into-vehicle-mode approaches to these guys. (A deluxe woulda been nicer though ideally)

I agree with this, I like pretenders and Iguanas with his King 'Con story have a soft spot in my heart.
I also like how his vehicle mode is just a tad lazy and crap. Very G1!

griffin
20th January 2022, 07:45 PM
I really hate it when they compromise the toys (or accessories) for a line-wide gimmick that is only there to appease retailers.
Those accessories look pathetic, looking like spare parts, not weapons.
I don't understand why they didn't include the arm guns from Starscream for Skywarp, in addition to the tuning fork.


What is Iguanus from? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of him.

Iguanus info here (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Iguanus_(G1)).

griffin
5th February 2022, 01:10 AM
Looks like the first wave of Core class will include a re-release of Kingdom Rodimus... which might be useful to some of us here who may not find the Kingdom version at a decent price (if it doesn't come to Australia).
That goes with the re-release of LDR Galvatron and VOY Blaster (which will also be useful if the Kingdom version doesn't come here).


Meanwhile... in a few hours time Hasbro will be officially revealing some new toys, and it is possible that it will include the 2nd wave of Deluxe toys that a UK online store has just leaked a little too early (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/02/04/transformers-legacy-nightprowler-sandstorm-and-buzzsaw-new-packaging-stock-images-449510) (often Hasbro sends out official images to online stores before a reveal so that they have them ready for their pre-order pages as soon as the products are officially announced... so I can't see Hasbro America being too happy with this online store leaking the images first).

The three new toys are the recently leaked beast redecos of Sandstorm (from Scorponok), Buzzsaw (from Waspinator) and Nightprowler (from Cheetor).

(Sandstorm and Buzzsaw are both noted as Predacons on the packaging, but for some reason Nightprowler is noted as an Autobot)

Tranceblade
5th February 2022, 01:13 AM
The original leaks dictated those deluxe figures as being for Fan Channel, which could be almost any specialist retailer

griffin
5th February 2022, 01:27 AM
Mirrored pics...

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griffin
5th February 2022, 01:33 AM
The original leaks dictated those deluxe figures as being for Fan Channel, which could be almost any specialist retailer

It's possible... it is just hard to tell these days from the packaging.
Then again, these characters don't exactly scream "legacy" so being limited exclusives would make more sense.

JJJ
5th February 2022, 12:25 PM
Well, it was nice to see Sludge (very pretty!), but honestly I'm having a hard time thinking of what design choices they could have made that would have kept it in line with Grimbo and Slag and yet caused me not to buy it :)

Robzy
5th February 2022, 12:29 PM
Meanwhile... in a few hours time Hasbro will be officially revealing some new toys

Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere (I can't find any info) but are we getting any/some of these figures in Aus? For example, the Buzzworthy Kup and CJ figures... are they coming here or should we be sourcing from O/S? I thought they had already been released so was surprised they were "announced" today.

griffin
5th February 2022, 01:21 PM
Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere (I can't find any info) but are we getting any/some of these figures in Aus? For example, the Buzzworthy Kup and CJ figures... are they coming here or should we be sourcing from O/S? I thought they had already been released so was surprised they were "announced" today.

We got the first wave of single SS packs here, and I thought they did fairly well, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get this second wave as well.
You aren't mistaken about thinking that they were already released, as they were out in Asia mid December (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/newly-released-and-upcoming-toys-hasbro-edition.953417/)... so if we are going to get them, I would have thought they would be out soon.

And yes, "official announcement" doesn't mean that the toys aren't yet released, as most of today's reveals were already out somewhere in the world (the RED toys, the Vintage BW toys, the SS Spike toy, and those Buzzworthy toys)... and most of the rest were already seen as official images (the Legacy toys), were officially revealed by Hasbro previously (Arcee), or images leaked (Junkheap). That left only two toys to actually be revealed, Sludge and Ironhide.

Robzy
5th February 2022, 03:13 PM
We got the first wave of single SS packs here, and I thought they did fairly well, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get this second wave as well.
You aren't mistaken about thinking that they were already released, as they were out in Asia mid December (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/newly-released-and-upcoming-toys-hasbro-edition.953417/)... so if we are going to get them, I would have thought they would be out soon.

And yes, "official announcement" doesn't mean that the toys aren't yet released, as most of today's reveals were already out somewhere in the world (the RED toys, the Vintage BW toys, the SS Spike toy, and those Buzzworthy toys)... and most of the rest were already seen as official images (the Legacy toys), were officially revealed by Hasbro previously (Arcee), or images leaked (Junkheap). That left only two toys to actually be revealed, Sludge and Ironhide.

Thanks. I've been undecided whether or not to jump on these figures (and even stuff like Kingdom Blaster or SS86 Perceptor) from O/S or wait until they come here... that's "if" they come here, which I'm worried about.

griffin
5th February 2022, 03:54 PM
Well, the good news about Kingdom Blaster (and Core Hotrod) is that they are both being re-released in Legacy, and we should be getting a decent supply of wave 1 here.
Those two are the only Kingdom toys I haven't been able to find at an affordable price online (like Amazon Australia, who has now had everything else, including the other final wave toys Tigatron, Pipes, Slammer), so I can wait until the Legacy release if the Kingdom versions don't end up getting a good global release (or released here).

Sinnertwin
5th February 2022, 07:27 PM
We got the first wave of single SS packs here, and I thought they did fairly well, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get this second wave as well.
You aren't mistaken about thinking that they were already released, as they were out in Asia mid December (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/newly-released-and-upcoming-toys-hasbro-edition.953417/)... so if we are going to get them, I would have thought they would be out soon.

And yes, "official announcement" doesn't mean that the toys aren't yet released, as most of today's reveals were already out somewhere in the world (the RED toys, the Vintage BW toys, the SS Spike toy, and those Buzzworthy toys)... and most of the rest were already seen as official images (the Legacy toys), were officially revealed by Hasbro previously (Arcee), or images leaked (Junkheap). That left only two toys to actually be revealed, Sludge and Ironhide.

According to the Buzzworthy Bumblebee store listings, Target was the only store that sold the Deluxes & they're currently on clearance for $25

Whether they're just clearing out the old to make way for the new or simply selling them off from the business altogether is a mystery at this point.

morg176
6th February 2022, 12:03 PM
Do the legacy line toys have the plastic sheet in the box cut out? I dont remember seeing one when I saw ss ravage on the shelf. I'm not fond of the idea of having 'open boxes'. Why not just go for a closed box or blister card? Thoughts

Skyfire
6th February 2022, 01:09 PM
I've seen open box for Voyager and Core Legacy, and Core Studio Series. Deluxe and Voyager Studio Series still have the plastic window. Leader Studio Series (Coronation Starscream, Sludge) are closed boxes.

I don't like open boxes due to people stealing things as shown here (https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/comments/slilyb/psa_about_ss_ravage_hunting_make_sure_he_is/). It's more work for me to check that the toy has not been abused. I rely on the tapes being intact (or double/triple-taped with original factory tape) but that will become less useful for open boxes. I guess we'll see how this plays out. It might not be a big problem. Then again, retailers might get annoyed at all the returns and damaged stock and put pressure back on Hasbro. I understand the environmental concerns but buying plastic toys is ultimately not about environmental concern and the bottom line for Hasbro is money.

Sinnertwin
6th February 2022, 02:14 PM
Do the legacy line toys have the plastic sheet in the box cut out? I dont remember seeing one when I saw ss ravage on the shelf. I'm not fond of the idea of having 'open boxes'. Why not just go for a closed box or blister card? Thoughts

I just watched Prime v Prime's review of Legacy Bulkhead that he got from the Iacon store & it has no plastic. He was sure to point it out.

JJJ
6th February 2022, 02:14 PM
I honestly do not think that open boxes are the problem that they are being made out to be elsewhere, because plenty of other toys are sold in similarly open boxes. If this were a big problem, then surely the retailers would have pressed for an end to it ages ago, or the manufacturers would have changed to stop their losses.

The horror stories seem, from what I can see, almost always to come from one particular country that has enormous economic disparity and a devil-take-the-hindmost national ethos.

griffin
6th February 2022, 05:53 PM
A lot of toys aren't completely encased in plastic or cardboard, so they have always been at risk of damage or interference.... and even though all toys at a retail store will be at risk to curious little fingers, if it is a collector-targeted toy product, that demographic doesn't want those little fingers unintentionally damaging it or intentionally removing something.

However, the small number of toys at retail stores that are aimed at collectors will also be a target for thieves, and unlike other toys that are also exposed to window shoppers (little fingers), the collector toys are twice at risk in a retail store of damage or theft.

KELPIE
7th February 2022, 12:30 PM
Windowless boxes are fine. Plastic free windows are bad, especially with weird jagged cardboard edges.

Makes it very difficult for MISB collectors. Both in finding one minty fresh but also in keeping dust free and clean.

kovert
7th February 2022, 09:06 PM
Without the clear plastic, there'll be damaged or missing parts and accessories. Dust, grime and germs on the figure will be problem even for non-MISB collectors. And there is a virus going around at the moment. Bad idea.

1AZRAEL1
7th February 2022, 09:28 PM
Having windows was a nice way to decide on which figure to grab when I see them in store. Guess that I buy most online these days because retail here is garbage it should be fine.

griffin
7th February 2022, 10:55 PM
I'm also one who likes to check the quality and paint on the toys in the store before choosing one... but considering the amount of toys that are bought online sight-unseen, it probably wouldn't be so bad to have them packaging in sealed boxes (like Takara used to do).

Ultimately, it comes down to what the Retailers want, and how well the distributors can make the products look to the Retailers.
But if Retailers start writing off too many products from a Brand due to theft or damages in-store, they will demand better packaging or stop buying the Brand completely.

Skyfire
8th February 2022, 12:46 AM
I'm also one who likes to check the quality and paint on the toys in the store before choosing one... but considering the amount of toys that are bought online sight-unseen, it probably wouldn't be so bad to have them packaging in sealed boxes (like Takara used to do).

This is actually one the major reasons I buy in-store, and as someone who has keen eye, I can say that the quality of paint application for WFC and SS is highly variable. Some paint/tampo jobs (and chipping) are just atrocious, while some are done by a freakin' robot! It's almost a coin toss which you'll get. It's also more fun to see shelves stocked with goodies - all that childhood stuff. So I'm in bind... more paint issues or more standing in the toy aisle like Mr Burns choosing ketchup or catsup ;).

Did some scouting around the Internet (https://collecticontoys.com/search?q=Transformers+Legacy). Legacy Deluxes are also open box and Leaders are closed box. I would think this means Studio Series will eventually follow suit and go plastic window-free for all classes.

morg176
8th February 2022, 02:45 AM
Not intending to whinge, but I think the open box packaging for almost every size class of legacy is perhaps the worst idea for tf packaging in the last 37 years. Seriously, how much does a simple, square corner cardboard box with a windows cost.
It makes it very difficult to buy any of the toys...

Tha_Phantom
8th February 2022, 08:12 AM
Seriously, how much does a simple, square corner cardboard box with a windows cost.
It makes it very difficult to buy any of the toys...

I think it's more about environmental reasons than the cost. Although Hasbro would be happy about bringing that down too.

Sinnertwin
8th February 2022, 10:11 AM
Am I being cynical, or is Hasbro's price increase and new environmental packaging incentive part & parcel of saving costs while still maintaining their profit margins?

DELTAprime
8th February 2022, 12:57 PM
^ The removal of plastics probably has more to do with cost than the environment, but they won't admit that. After all, they did say they were jumping on the NFT train, and at this point, we have good evidence that NFTs are an environmental disaster.

Jaxius._
8th February 2022, 06:44 PM
Windowless boxes are an issue, seen several cyberverse deluxes with no heads and a bumblebee half torn out of the box

Bidoofdude
8th February 2022, 11:23 PM
Half the windowed boxes I see anyway seem to be quite roughly put together, it’s not a good look half the time. As nice as the packaging has been since Combiner Wars, I’d rather just not bother caring about it now.

Windowless might give a decent reason to cut off the front art, but still the whole box is probably going in the bin.

KELPIE
9th February 2022, 05:48 PM
This is actually one the major reasons I buy in-store, and as someone who has keen eye, I can say that the quality of paint application for WFC and SS is highly variable. Some paint/tampo jobs (and chipping) are just atrocious, while some are done by a freakin' robot! It's almost a coin toss which you'll get. It's also more fun to see shelves stocked with goodies - all that childhood stuff. So I'm in bind... more paint issues or more standing in the toy aisle like Mr Burns choosing ketchup or catsup ;).

If I'm buying a figure I care about online I go through BBTS' collector grade. I know many would balk at the extra couple of bucks, however I've found the service to be quite good.

griffin
24th February 2022, 01:24 AM
Earlier today (Tuesday) Hasbro officially announced/revealed on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/transformers/photos/a.153259298077606/6976101675793300/?__tn__=%2CO*F) a toy that we already knew about from one of their earlier Legacy presentations - the re-release of Kingdom Leader Galvatron in wave 1 of Legacy, but confirming that it won't have the "battle damage" scuffing paint of the Kingdom version.


Here comes another #TransformersTuesday reveal! Galvatron is back, and this time he’s facing off with Laser Optimus Prime! And we’re happy to announce that we listened to your feedback and removed the battle damage deco! Both Transformers: Legacy Leader Galvatron and Laser Optimus Prime are launching this Spring.

The fb posting has a single image that isn't really clear, but shows that Galvatron is indeed clean.

griffin
24th February 2022, 01:32 AM
One of the regular sources of unreleased toys has "obtained" the unreleased Legacy Skywarp, and some screenshots can be seen here (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/02/21/transformers-legacy-core-class-skywarp-in-hand-images-450482). (nothing fancy, as it is just a redeco of Starscream)

Meanwhile, an official source has posted up a youtube video turnaround of both modes of Legacy Deluxe Arcee....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH_uRhKNoVI

DELTAprime
24th February 2022, 12:03 PM
The fb posting has a single image that isn't really clear, but shows that Galvatron is indeed clean.

I guess I'm buying Galvatron again...

Paulbot
24th February 2022, 04:40 PM
I guess I'm buying Galvatron again...

For added fun, this time you can't tell if the shoulders are correct until you open him!

(I joke, as I assume that the shoulder issue is completely fixed on this new production run...)

Tranceblade
26th February 2022, 11:15 PM
Photos of Bulkhead in hand are showing up from fans in the UK
Seems to be that Pulse UK actually has it in stock now, as does In Demand Toys

Skyfire
13th March 2022, 04:35 PM
I was watching this youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYlqITm7dsk) of Legacy Blaster unboxing. The window opening allows a hand reach Eject, which is held by a single horizontal plastic tie, and yank it out. I have this bad feeling people are going to steal Eject to make Rewind customs.

Jaxius._
13th March 2022, 10:18 PM
I was watching this youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYlqITm7dsk) of Legacy Blaster unboxing. The window opening allows a hand reach Eject, which is held by a single horizontal plastic tie, and yank it out. I have this bad feeling people are going to steal Eject to make Rewind customs.

Good thing i got mine online from amazon then
It’s going to be an interesting year or so until stores make some adjustments

griffin
17th March 2022, 11:07 AM
Apparently the QR codes on the Legacy packaging are now working (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/15/transformers-legacy-qr-codes-active-451894), sending you to a character page.

(for anyone who has managed to get their hands on one that has already been released overseas, as we are still waiting for the toys to be released in Australia) Looks like the nine toys from wave 1 that are Deluxe and higher.

Tetsuwan Convoy
17th March 2022, 01:50 PM
Ooh that's cool. Nice to see some Bios and stuff coming back into play somehow. Also nice to see them acknowledge the original "era." Nice to see they classed Galvatron as "City Commander" and his sub group as Herald of Unicron.
Although oddly, Arcee is a Motorcycle and Iguanas is a Motorbike. Something tells me that SKids isn't a "Turbo" car by any means. Although I know very little about the car itself. <-Never mind, I just found out its a Honda City Turbo. #imanidiot

griffin
17th March 2022, 09:20 PM
Just posting up the bio links, for people to check out the toy "animations".


Voyager - Bulkhead (https://legacy.transformers.com/code/Bk6jrJj2) - Blaster (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-au/bios/blopsrfk#scyexb)

Leader - Optimus (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-au/bios/opejvqul#gzwsba) - Galvatron

(https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-au/bios/gazyelfo#ialkui)Deluxe - Arcee (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/bios/arlpqavu#picbhd) - Kickback (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/bios/kiwbhsftd#aphhmo) - Skids (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/bios/skipmnch#oumpwo) - Dragstrip (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/bios/drqrinld#viwgvd)

Core - Iguanus (https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/bios/ihtwqghl#pyacbc)

Deano85
17th March 2022, 11:08 PM
Cant wait for Optimus and Dragstrip. Waiting to find out about wave 2 of Legacy

valkyrie_76
19th March 2022, 10:00 AM
Primevsprime apparantly has Blitzwing from Legacy and has teased the sword/gun.

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griffin
22nd March 2022, 01:50 PM
Related to Legacy, it looks like we might not see another cartoon based on Generations toys... at least on Netflix.
According to the showrunner for the WFC series who was at the recent TFCon in Los Angeles (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/netflix-was-offered-a-transformers-legacy-series-and-declined-to-take-it/46758/), a Legacy cartoon was offered to Netflix, but they declined to be involved.
This doesn't mean that we won't see one in some form on some other format (like Hasbro's own youtube channel), but it sounds like Netflix was the only suitable outlet that was being considered and no other options were being explored (at that time - don't forget that the first Prime Wars cartoon came out a year after the toyline).


Recently, TFcon held its springtime convention, and during that convention F.J. DeSanto, who was the showrunner for the recent War for Cybertron Series on Netflix offered up some new information. He put forth that they did have a series based on Transformers Legacy lined up, and the show was offered to Netflix, but ultimately the streaming service declined to pick it up.

SharkyMcShark
22nd March 2022, 05:17 PM
If I'm being harsh, that's not really a big loss. The NetFlix shows veered into unwatchably bad territory pretty quickly.

Paulbot
22nd March 2022, 09:58 PM
Probably says something about the Netflix "ratings" for the previous shows.

Bemblebuu
26th March 2022, 06:00 PM
Watched PrimeVsPrime's vid review of Legacy Blitzwing; bot mode aside, the alt modes are arguably, a mess. Jet mode looks good from above, but the kibble underneath is horrible. Tank mode is let down by the faux cockpit jutting out; cartoon accuracy or not, a more sensible design would let the user have the option of having it out or not.

DELTAprime
26th March 2022, 06:49 PM
Watched PrimeVsPrime's vid review of Legacy Blitzwing; bot mode aside, the alt modes are arguably, a mess. Jet mode looks good from above, but the kibble underneath is horrible. Tank mode is let down by the faux cockpit jutting out; cartoon accuracy or not, a more sensible design would let the user have the option of having it out or not.

We are discussing Blitzwing in the rumours section. Come join the Blitzwing discussion there until Hasbro formally announces him. :)

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/24350-Transformers-Toy-Rumours-(must-note-a-source)/page77

KELPIE
28th March 2022, 12:10 PM
If I'm being harsh, that's not really a big loss. The NetFlix shows veered into unwatchably bad territory pretty quickly.

Aren't we still waiting on the final half of the final season?

JJJ
28th March 2022, 12:41 PM
Aren't we still waiting on the final half of the final season?

No, we've had all three seasons of WFC on Netflix (it ended with a set-up for another show that now seems unlikely to be made). It wasn't great, but I really don't think it deserves much of the criticism is has received (but I won't attempt to defend the direction of the voice actors - even allowing for instructions to make the diction slow and clear for children, the delivery was pretty damned sucky).

KELPIE
30th March 2022, 08:33 AM
No, we've had all three seasons of WFC on Netflix (it ended with a set-up for another show that now seems unlikely to be made).

Well that's a shame. I was sure I read somewhere that they had split the season into two, sometimes Netfilx does that. Production company gives them x episodes and they decide when and how to release... Kiko for example Netflix got the whole thing... they then split it into 3 "seasons" and released them separately over the course of a year.

Given there was the precedence I pretty much believed what I read. To think that's the ending they left us with... wow. What a pile of, from start to finish. Deserves all the criticism and more in my opinion. But then, I also think I could have done a better job, so maybe I'm just delusional.

Skyfire
31st March 2022, 04:31 PM
I've been following the Reddit Transformers forum lately looking at how the new Legacy packaging is fairing. There have been a few reports of missing accessories - Legacy Bulkhead's spherical mace seems like another easily stolen item. But the main and common gripe has been the flimsiness/thinness of the cardboard. That and the lack of plastic window and especially the plastic insert that reinforces the box (removed with Kingdom) and perhaps the angular box shape/crease has meant boxes are getting crushed and torn when sent in satchel mailers (many complaints about Amazon US as it often uses satchels instead of boxes). Be aware if you care about box condition.

So here's an interesting thing - Legacy Nightprowler/Sandstorm/Buzzsaw have the plastic window back (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/taiwan-transformers-sightings.155110/page-11#post-20089881). I wonder if Hasbro saw too many complaints about plastic-free windows.

griffin
31st March 2022, 05:25 PM
I've been following the Reddit Transformers forum lately looking at how the new Legacy packaging is fairing. There have been a few reports of missing accessories - Legacy Bulkhead's spherical mace seems like another easily stolen item. But the main and common gripe has been the flimsiness/thinness of the cardboard. That and the lack of plastic window and especially the plastic insert that reinforces the box (removed with Kingdom) and perhaps the angular box shape/crease has meant boxes are getting crushed and torn when sent in satchel mailers (many complaints about Amazon US as it often uses satchels instead of boxes). Be aware if you care about box condition.

So here's an interesting thing - Legacy Nightprowler/Sandstorm/Buzzsaw have the plastic window back (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/taiwan-transformers-sightings.155110/page-11#post-20089881). I wonder if Hasbro saw too many complaints about plastic-free windows.

They are out already! (in Taiwan)
The release date for them in America on the Hasbro Pulse website is December... so something strange is going on there. Unless Walmart is getting them in the next month or so and Hasbro Pulse isn't selling it until the end of the year?

It is indeed strange to see windows on them, after all the fuss of removing all plastic from the regular Legacy toys.
And I do expect that the boxes are less stable without the plastic insert and window to reinforce it, so a thinner cardboard (like the Vintage Beast Wars toys had) would certainly make the boxes very fragile.
I just got KD Blaster in the mail today from Amazon America in a satchel, and it certainly got a fair bit squashed, so I don't like the chances of these newer toys that don't have any plastic reinforcing them, and thinner cardboard.
(and of course, the theft of bits and pieces from inside the box will make shopping from a store more risky - as it will require us to do a bit of research to make sure that nothing is missing, by knowing first what should be showing inside the cavity of the box)

DELTAprime
6th April 2022, 06:39 AM
Hasbro has announced the next Fan First Tuesday is coming on the 12th of April (early morning on the 13th Australian time). Hopefully, more Legacy toys will be shown.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/04/05/transformers-power-rangers-fan-first-tuesday-announced-for-april-12th-453089

griffin
7th April 2022, 07:25 PM
The Legacy version of Galvatron (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/04/04/transformers-legacy-leader-galvatron-in-hand-images-comparison-shots-453061), next to the Kingdom version, to show what it looks like without the paint apps, and to see that the orange cannon is also missing its paint.

The Legacy version of Blaster looks to have a new face (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/04/04/possible-transformers-legacy-blaster-variant-head-found-453079), but I guess they still had Kingdom faces left over, and it will look like a running change.
The new face has a smirk, while the old face is very serious.

DELTAprime
8th April 2022, 11:18 AM
The Legacy version of Blaster looks to have a new face (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/04/04/possible-transformers-legacy-blaster-variant-head-found-453079), but I guess they still had Kingdom faces left over, and it will look like a running change.
The new face has a smirk, while the old face is very serious.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I like the new face. I hope when I get my hands on a Blaster he has a fun smirk.

Skyfire
25th April 2022, 12:18 PM
I was watching this youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYlqITm7dsk) of Legacy Blaster unboxing. The window opening allows a hand reach Eject, which is held by a single horizontal plastic tie, and yank it out. I have this bad feeling people are going to steal Eject to make Rewind customs.

When buying Blaster in-store, check that the accessories are there as they can indeed be pulled out, as shown by this Reddit user (https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/comments/ub5s1n/the_problem_with_windowless_packaging/).

KELPIE
26th April 2022, 12:35 PM
I've been following the Reddit Transformers forum lately looking at how the new Legacy packaging is fairing. There have been a few reports of missing accessories - Legacy Bulkhead's spherical mace seems like another easily stolen item. But the main and common gripe has been the flimsiness/thinness of the cardboard. That and the lack of plastic window and especially the plastic insert that reinforces the box (removed with Kingdom) and perhaps the angular box shape/crease has meant boxes are getting crushed and torn when sent in satchel mailers (many complaints about Amazon US as it often uses satchels instead of boxes). Be aware if you care about box condition.

So here's an interesting thing - Legacy Nightprowler/Sandstorm/Buzzsaw have the plastic window back (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/taiwan-transformers-sightings.155110/page-11#post-20089881). I wonder if Hasbro saw too many complaints about plastic-free windows.

This was mentioned in that silly influencer round table thing: "Open box ? issues with heads removed, crushed boxes from shipping. ? Most likely not going back to plastic. Closed box an option. Balance out seeing figure and how important. Kids testing likes the open box."

I'd be curious to be a fly on the wall on this kids testing session. How old were the kids, what figures/toys were tested on them, what did they like about the open box...?

griffin
8th June 2022, 09:29 PM
One of the Hasbro designers has posted up concept images and info on instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CefEjqbMojG/) on the wave 1 Deluxe Legacy toy, Dragstrip, giving us some insight on how much effort was put into its appearance for the fans, and it's combiner ability.



Between the hardwork of @artguy101 (https://www.instagram.com/artguy101/) and Takio Ejima, Dragstrip ended up being a real beauty! Dan Khana absolutely crushed the concept work done for this stunticon henchman. Its a real treat whenever I get to work with Dan, such a talented guy and he really lives for the brand, diehard fan! We talked alot about how the arm would break apart for Menasor and you can see there was a couple ideas thrown around in the up front.
Once these ideas were all sent over to Takara’s team, we all got together and discussed over voice conference calls on direction and aesthetics of the combiner. Ejima san’s engineering mind to situate the smooth locking mechanism which would then become the final Menasor arm is just a stroke of absolute genius.
You can also see me applying details at block model stage to really try to get as close to Dan’s initial art as possible, but, there were some sacrifices made to some ideas to ensure his combining ability could be the best it could be.
Also, you can see some red line drawings for adjustments throughout the process. I thought showing you how much thought and detail went into the process it’d be cool to see. There is all sorts of production limitations and parts of the process that are hard to capture here. Pulling plastics out of molds is definitely an artform of its own and a very interesting world at that.
Funny thing on the last slide is how I was thinking of maybe giving Dragstrip a sort of evil smirk, somtimes those sculpt programs run away from your idea so its good to realign and focus on alotta other aspects of the character that can help amp it up to be the best Dragstrip evahhhh!
I hope yall enjoy the insight and I hope this guy fits into you collection!