Retro G1 Reissues - 1986 Movie anime editions

[Trent]

Look what showed up on Hasbro Pulse.

Hot Rod (https://hasbropulse.com/collections/partner-exclusives/products/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-autobot-hot-rod)

Starscream (https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-starscream)

It's about time we got a Hot Rod in the right colours. I want them just for the boxes.

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[Paulbot]

Boxes look fantastic, the colour schemes on the toys are great.

They are going hard on the TFTM nostalgia!

[danny-boy]

Nice. Reissues based on Transformers the movie. I wonder what else they can release in this line. Based off previous reissues maybe;

Purple Galvatron
Rodimus Prime
Ultra Magnus
Kup and Wheelie
Grey and Purple Astrotrain
Blitzwing
Optimus Prime
Soundwave
Blaster
Perceptor
Jazz
Insecticons

[Tha_Phantom]

Nice. Reissues based on Transformers the movie. I wonder what else they can release in this line. Based off previous reissues maybe;

Purple Galvatron
Rodimus Prime
Ultra Magnus
Kup and Wheelie
Grey and Purple Astrotrain
Blitzwing
Optimus Prime
Soundwave
Blaster
Perceptor
Jazz
Insecticons

I'm here for a toon-coloured Ultra Magnus. I've already got the Ehobby Astrotrain but won't say no to another version, even if only slightly different.

[KELPIE]

Oh I want very much.

Where would they show up in Australia? I haven't had much luck with the recent re-issues.

[reillyd]

Oh thank goodness they’re continuing G1 reissues. I’d dearly love to have seen them continue the Encore line, and still have hope that they will reconstruct the mould for the Dinobots. Even if it were just Grimlock, I could see him flying off the shelves.

[GoktimusPrime]

Oh thank goodness they’re continuing G1 reissues. I’d dearly love to have seen them continue the Encore line, and still have hope that they will reconstruct the mould for the Dinobots. Even if it were just Grimlock, I could see him flying off the shelves.
I would jump onto any reconstructed G1 reissues (e.g. Dinobots, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack etc.). I don't think we've seen any reconstructed reissues since Encore Devastator. Did that sell well? It would be nice if Hasbro and Harmony Gold did a Transformers x Robotech Collab and gave us a reissue Jetfire (even if it's in a two pack with a reissue of the original VF-1S Macross Valkyrie)

[Bidoofdude]

I like the colour schemes on both, there's something about the G1 toy look melded with cartoon colours that evokes a weird special type of nostalgia, even though I only have it for the cartoon myself. If not absurdly expensive, Starscream is seemingly a good way to get the 5mm Megatron gun accessory without jumping through massive hoops, even if it sticks out the bottom.


I would jump onto any reconstructed G1 reissues (e.g. Dinobots, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack etc.). I don't think we've seen any reconstructed reissues since Encore Devastator. Did that sell well? It would be nice if Hasbro and Harmony Gold did a Transformers x Robotech Collab and gave us a reissue Jetfire (even if it's in a two pack with a reissue of the original VF-1S Macross Valkyrie)

It seems like it sold well enough for them to consider and come through with the Encore 20A cartoon colours reissue. I bought that release but had some breakage issues with Hook's waist/sliding mechanism, seemed really fragile. I know the regular G1 reissues are important people, but the cartoon versions like with Galvatron, Devastator and Starscream are nice bonuses to spice it up.

[DELTAprime]

The Dino Cassette reissues had a new mould made out of the original 1980s prototypes. Also, Beast Wars Rat Trap likely was a new mould given Hasbro confirmed the original mould was lost.

That said, I don't think Encore Devastator was a new mould. There were significant signs of mould degradation on both my Encore 20 and 20A figures.

[Trent]

I seem to recall Hasbro stating that both OP and Soundwave have had moulds remade in the past to accomodate reissues.

[griffin]

It is strange that they are still cashing in on the 1986 movie (I know, the Studio Series continues to pump out 1986 movie toys), it's just that there is no anniversary for these to make sense coming out now (these two will be released in the 37th year after the movie came out).
After all, because of the Studio Series 1986 toys being done at the moment, I feel like these are being released at a bad time, as they are sorta competing with the Studio Series re-interpretation of these exact toy characters, and most in animation decos.

The colours on Hotrod looks really nice, and the packaging on both looks nice, but Starscream is probably going to be very similar to the previously released animation deco, done by eHobby I think about 15 years ago.

[Trent]

but Starscream is probably going to be very similar to the previously released animation deco, done by eHobby I think about 15 years ago.

Yeah but I don’t have that one so it’s ok ;)

[High_Q]

This retro Hot Rod has really nice colours. I like the packaging too, but would have preferred at least a bit of window to show the toy inside.


It is strange that they are still cashing in on the 1986 movie (I know, the Studio Series continues to pump out 1986 movie toys), it's just that there is no anniversary for these to make sense coming out now (these two will be released in the 37th year after the movie came out).

// rant
It's the 35th anniversary of Headmasters.
Hasbro gives us nothing.
Takara: gives us 6 MP's of secondary characters from the series who aren't actually Headmasters.

[Tha_Phantom]

It is strange that they are still cashing in on the 1986 movie (I know, the Studio Series continues to pump out 1986 movie toys), it's just that there is no anniversary for these to make sense coming out now (these two will be released in the 37th year after the movie came out).
After all, because of the Studio Series 1986 toys being done at the moment, I feel like these are being released at a bad time, as they are sorta competing with the Studio Series re-interpretation of these exact toy characters, and most in animation decos.

Maybe because the movie stuff is selling well they're seeing how far they can push it? Also it might appeal the the G1 collectors who don't touch CHUG?

[Bumblebee2000]

Starscream may be similar to the Ehobby deco, but it appears to be an improvement on its cartoon aims so I am sure some will double dip
And I have been hunting that Ehobby deco on eBay for the past year as a Starscream collecter who was a toddler not living in Japan when that figure came out. I think it has been long enough for a new one.

Aside from that, I suppose both the G1 reissues and Studio 86 have been selling well enough to get these. Especially considering they just put out a G1 Starscream reissue, that they have went for a character that may even still be available tells me it must be doing well

[jimoinj]

Does anyone have any idea where/if we'll be able to get these in Australia, short of ebay yet?

[KELPIE]

I seem to recall Hasbro stating that both OP and Soundwave have had moulds remade in the past to accomodate reissues.
Yup, I back up the Soundwave mould being remade. Didn't hear about Prime, however that would make sense.


It is strange that they are still cashing in on the 1986 movie (I know, the Studio Series continues to pump out 1986 movie toys), it's just that there is no anniversary for these to make sense coming out now (these two will be released in the 37th year after the movie came out).
Makes sense to me. It's probably the most bankable media to make merch for. Thanks to the remasters and availability, a lot of people have been exposed to this movie, not to mention all the original G1 fans would have had their kids grow up on this movie.

[janda the red]

Starscream's an easy "yes" for me... another seeker to add to the squadron. :)
Feels like an eternity since i've bought a new G1 re issue... i think the last would've been that Starscream in G1 style box.

[griffin]

Added mirrored images to the first post.
The release in America for these two is in January... us$34 for each.

Also a comparison image with the original Hotrod toy, posted on instagram by one of the Hasbro designers (https://www.instagram.com/p/CjZKj3Cs6Td/)...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/101009.jpg

[High_Q]

Also a comparison image with the original Hotrod toy, posted on instagram by one of the Hasbro designers (https://www.instagram.com/p/CjZKj3Cs6Td/)...
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/101009.jpg

I already have multiples of the G1 Hot Rod mold, but this is so tempting since IIRC, this is the first animation colour accurate G1 Hot Rod toy, ever. Even the MP-09 and MP-28 molds never had the correct colours for Movie 86 Roddy. The lack of decals really suits this toy too. The OG stickers just make the bot mode look too 'busy'.

[KELPIE]

I love it. Totally.

It's weird getting the nostalgia feels for the original but also having this new one giving the feels of just being right.

[KELPIE]

These guys have popped up for pre-order at tfsource.

Anyone seen them anywhere else?

[janda the red]

These guys have popped up for pre-order at tfsource.

Anyone seen them anywhere else?

I've pre ordered mine from Robot Kingdom... they were $39.90 USD. just checked, they're still available

I've bought a few times from RK... can't fault them.

:)

[reillyd]

Yes, Retro Starscream is US$62.32 with airmail small packet……. And if I wait, its sure to sell out tomorrow.
But if I order, its sure to hit Zing for half the price, lol.

But I’ll have peace of mind. What price sanity?

[Skyfire]

I reckon there's a chance Popcultcha will get them, as they already have G1 Astrotrain in stock and G1 Optimus Prime on preorder. They've been getting in so many specialised figures lately - Gen Selects (inc Magnificus), Holiday Optimus Prime, Masterpieces, Shattered Glass, Legacy Hero is Born, Origins Bumblebee etc.

Edit: Preorder for Screamer now up at TFH (https://www.tfh.com.sg/product-details.php?p=32450) and Robo Robo (https://roborobo.com.sg/shop/hasbro/hasbro-transformers-the-movie-retro-starscream/) for $SGD54.

[KELPIE]

I've pre ordered mine from Robot Kingdom... they were $39.90 USD. just checked, they're still available

I've bought a few times from RK... can't fault them.

:)
I love RK, however since the pandemic they stopped shipping to Australia then when they brought it back, the pricing was through the roof. Has that settled down a bit, I'd love to start using them again.


I reckon there's a chance Popcultcha will get them, as they already have G1 Astrotrain in stock and G1 Optimus Prime on preorder. They've been getting in so many specialised figures lately - Gen Selects (inc Magnificus), Holiday Optimus Prime, Masterpieces, Shattered Glass, Legacy Hero is Born, Origins Bumblebee etc.
Good tip, thanks very much. I didn't know they were getting in the reissues. I just imported Prime :rolleyes:

[janda the red]

@Kelpie

yeah it's settled down a bit, still shipping everywhere is up though.

[danny-boy]

Mine shipped from Robot Kingdom. I hope they release them here so I can pick up extra copies.

[griffin]

Some in-hand images of the two toys (https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/12/02/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-starscream-in-hand-images-471347), from facebook.

[Trent]

Mine shipped from Robot Kingdom. I hope they release them here so I can pick up extra copies.

I was gonna get them from robot kingdom but could treat the wife to a night out for what the postage alone cost

[reillyd]

I was gonna get them from robot kingdom but could treat the wife to a night out for what the postage alone cost

Yes, but which would leave you happier - a momentary and fleeting night of happiness that you won’t remember in a years time, or a freaking G1 toy you probably already have in a slightly different colour scheme?!? Priorities, right?

[danny-boy]

I was gonna get them from robot kingdom but could treat the wife to a night out for what the postage alone cost

huh? I paid $30 USD shipping which is about $44 AUD. That doesn’t get you far these days.

Just did a dummy order, looks like the cheapest shipping has gone up to $37 USD.

Edit: Received my package from RK.

[danny-boy]

The packaging is cheap and nasty. The only good thing about it is the artwork.

Starscream is beautiful. I pulled the Takara book collection reissue out of storage and compared the two. It’s very close but I have to give the edge to this new reissue. The colours are more toon accurate and the painted face looks much better.

The real star of the show is Hot Rod. It’s a thing of beauty in hand. The colours are absolutely gorgeous.

I don’t know who’s next (if any) but Starscream has got me excited for anime accurate Skywarp and Thundercracker.

[Skyfire]

Starscream comes with the missiles that are way too long for the launchers. When inserted, the missile sticks out by about 5.5cm, instead of the cone sitting flush against the launcher. In fact, the length of the missile is, stupidly, longer than the length of the launcher by about 1.5cm - what Hasbro fool missed that? This Starscream is the same as the Walmart G1 toy colour reissue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpvI-Phsj7w) from a few years ago, which also had the uselessly long missiles (but minus the stickers as tampographs are used now). Part of me feels like chopping out a section of the missile rod and reattaching the ends.

[Autocon]

Could it be a safety issue to make the missiles longer??🤔

[DELTAprime]

Starscream comes with the missiles that are way too long for the launchers. When inserted, the missile sticks out by about 5.5cm, instead of the cone sitting flush against the launcher. In fact, the length of the missile is, stupidly, longer than the length of the launcher by about 1.5cm - what Hasbro fool missed that? This Starscream is the same as the Walmart G1 toy colour reissue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpvI-Phsj7w) from a few years ago, which also had the uselessly long missiles (but minus the stickers as tampographs are used now). Part of me feels like chopping out a section of the missile rod and reattaching the ends.

Outside Japan, those elongated missiles have been standard issue on the G1 Seeker mould for a couple of decades. They were designed to meet modern safety requirements in the US and other Hasbro territories.

[Skyfire]

100% safety coz the lawyers know that nobody would use them, hahaahahha. Even if they were small, they wouldn't shoot with much speed (less than those Lego flat disc or long missile shooters). Meanwhile, over at Hasbro Nerf...

The Takara book collection Starscream has the same accessories except for having the original G1 small missiles and small null rays. Less strict Japanese law I suppose.

[danny-boy]

Rumours are Hound is the 3rd release along with a 4th release not yet known.

[KELPIE]

Have we had confirmation if these are coming to Australia or not?

[danny-boy]

4th release is Retro G1 Thundercracker in animation accurate powder blue.

[griffin]

The first one is now available in Australia, from BigW... but only for Delivery - NOT even pickup at a store. :(

It is $69 plus shipping (either $8 or $10, depending on where you live).

https://www.bigw.com.au/product/the-transformers-the-movie-starscream-transformers-retro/p/256480

Price seems like a lot, but Asian sources were about au$55-60 before shipping, so this one is comparatively priced.

[High_Q]

The first one is now available in Australia, from BigW... but only for Delivery - NOT even pickup at a store. :(.

Any board member got toys from Big W delivered recently? Do they pack them well from rough handling?

[Skyfire]

Any board member got toys from Big W delivered recently? Do they pack them well from rough handling?

I'd say Big W's packaging is the usual standard - somewhat larger boxes of fairly good carton quality, fairly well padded with Sealed Air packets. I've gotten toys from over east and Perth delivered. As someone who cares somewhat about box quality, I don't have any particular complaints.

I posted another source for Starscream in the online sightings thread, but I'll also post it here:
Mighty Ape (https://www.mightyape.com.au/product/transformers-retro-series-g1-starscream/36507440) has it on preorder for 31 Mar release. When it first came up, it was $67.99 but they've since added a dollar (shipping is $5.99).

[Paulbot]

My order is on the way from Big W. Can report when it arrives.

I ordered books from them two weeks back, one book had some bent pages from moving around the box

[High_Q]

I'd say Big W's packaging is the usual standard - somewhat larger boxes of fairly good carton quality, fairly well padded with Sealed Air packets. I've gotten toys from over east and Perth delivered. As someone who cares somewhat about box quality, I don't have any particular complaints.


My order is on the way from Big W. Can report when it arrives. I ordered books from them two weeks back, one book had some bent pages from moving around the box

Thanks, guys. So, at least the toys are packed in boxes. I was worried they'd pack them in unpadded mailing satchels.

[Trent]

Got mine today. The box was huge but comically poorly dimensioned to fit the Starscream box so the result was that the flap was bent.

I am disappoint.

[reillyd]

I wish I’d seen this sooner. It’s showing as not available for delivery.

[Paulbot]

I wish I�d seen this sooner. It�s showing as not available for delivery.

Showing as available for delivery for me to a Victoria address still. I ordered earlier in the week and it was packed from a NSW address. Odd that QLD wouldnt be available?

[Tha_Phantom]

Got mine today. The box was huge but comically poorly dimensioned to fit the Starscream box so the result was that the flap was bent.

I am disappoint.

Just got mine. Ironically the flap wasn't bent (although had a slight curve to it) but there was a ding in one corner of the box.

It doesn't bother me personally as I'm not a MISB collector most of the time, but it's worth noting for those who are I guess.

[Skyfire]

Big W now has online (only) The Transformers: The Movie Retro G1, releasing 5/4/23, each $69:

Thundercracker (https://www.bigw.com.au/product/the-transformers-the-movie-retro-g1-thundercracker/p/256483).
Hound (https://www.bigw.com.au/product/the-transformers-the-movie-retro-g1-autobot-hound/p/256481).

Free shipping at $100.

So now that Big W has further G1 retros available at $69, and how that seems exorbitant, I went back to my 1980s scrapbook of shopping catalogue clippings to see what the orginal cars and planes cost.

The major retailers back then (Target, Kmart, Big W, Myer) were selling them for $13-20 (lower pricing from sales) around 1984. As per the Reserve Bank of Australia inflation calculator, that's $45-69 in 2022 money (the calculator only goes to the last financial year), or 3.3% inflation (which is less than inflation at the moment).

[danny-boy]

Thanks Skyfire. Pre-ordered Thundercracker and Hound. Big W are getting them in pretty quick. Saves me from ordering from RK.

[Deano85]

Pre-ordered Thundercracker. The price is ok considering I hadn't bought Starscream before him.

[GoktimusPrime]

You may find the pegs on Thundercracker to be a bit loose and prone to easily falling off, so be prepared to use clear nail polish or Fix-Loose-Joints Action Figure to thicken some of the posts up. I really do wish that Hasbro would stop using the Comm. Series oversized missiles; just use normal sized missiles and gut the launchers. That's what they've done for Hound (and many other reissues). I get that they can't have small missiles that can shoot for child safety reasons... so just don't have them shoot?

The deco on this Thundercracker looks really nice, particularly the separately painted face and black grills on the sides of the head... but the missiles are a dealbreaker for me (which is why I never got any of the Comm. Series Jets).

[Metallikato]

So now that Big W has further G1 retros available at $69, and how that seems exorbitant, I went back to my 1980s scrapbook of shopping catalogue clippings to see what the orginal cars and planes cost.

The major retailers back then (Target, Kmart, Big W, Myer) were selling them for $13-20 (lower pricing from sales) around 1984. As per the Reserve Bank of Australia inflation calculator, that's $45-69 in 2022 money (the calculator only goes to the last financial year), or 3.3% inflation (which is less than inflation at the moment).

Is there a known reason why they've missed Hot Rod?

[Skyfire]

I don't know why Big W missed Hot Rod but I've not seen it from any Aus retailer. Mighty Ape had Starscream for preorder but never Hot Rod. My guess is Hasbro Australia didn't get any. Robot Kingdom (https://www.robotkingdom.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=transformers+retro) in Hong Kong still has Hot Rod and will be getting Thundercracker and Hound. Shipping is expensive but averaged over the three might not be too bad.

Big W is promoting their G1 exclusivity in a banner on the website today, including a video presentation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMGmXgpIu3Q). I wonder who they leased those G1s in the background from.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52767458315_fb9075a4f9_b.jpg

[janda the red]

Just ordered 2 Thundercrackers... :)

i went with RK though... costs $20ish dollars more including shipping than just getting through Big W, but RK pack really well and i want pristine boxes.

I'm realy hoping they do Skywarp too...

[Tha_Phantom]

i went with RK though... costs $20ish dollars more including shipping than just getting through Big W, but RK pack really well and i want pristine boxes.

This is something really worth considering for MISB collectors. The extra financial hit for peace of mind beats having to chase up refunds/exchanges or sourcing another one elsewhere.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Just ordered 2 Thundercrackers... :)

i went with RK though... costs $20ish dollars more including shipping than just getting through Big W, but RK pack really well and i want pristine boxes.

I'm realy hoping they do Skywarp too...

I was quite happy my Starscream box from Big W arrived relatively unscathed. Hoping for similar with Hound & Thundercracker

[Omega Metro]

My Starscream arrived today in a massive box. Undamaged.

[GoktimusPrime]

I wonder who they leased those G1s in the background from.
I did! :)

This video took a whole day to shoot. Here's what I added to the background:
https://i.ibb.co/pz5csvt/hasbro-bigwvid-G1retro.jpg
* 1986 movie toys (Hot Rod is behind the presenter so he's obscured; but he's there!)
* a 1985 hardcover copy of issue 1 of the Transformers Marvel comics
* the 1986 Marvel Transformers Universe book

Easter Egg: I set the time on the clock in the background to 12:26, representing December 26, which was the date that The Transformers The Movie was released in Australian cinemas in 1986.

Other contributions:
Hound's Role
The original script was based on the text that you can see on the Big W website. So for Hound it read "He fights bravely to defend Autobot City form the attacking Decepticons." - but of course, we never see Hound actually "fight bravely to defend Autobot City." He was seen helping Kup establish a roadblock on the path to Lookout Mountain, and then later appeared as part of Optimus Prime's shuttle crew... we see him disembarking the shuttle but we never see him do any fighting. For this reason, I had the script amended to what you can hear in the video: (0:35) "Appearing in the Battle of Autobot City against the Decepticons in the '86 movie."
Thundercracker's Function and weapons description
I had the word "Warrior" added into the description of Thundercracker, a reference to his Function. The original script and the text on the Big W website describes Thundercracker's weapons as "null rays," which is inaccurate; those are Starscream's weapons. Thundercracker has drone rockets and incendiary guns... "incendiary" proved to be too much of a mouthful (bear in mind that this presenter is speaking very quickly, and 'incendiary' is probably not part of her regular vocabulary), so it was decided to just stick with "drone rockets." :) FWIW she did try to say "incendiary" in a couple of takes. :cool:
https://i.ibb.co/ZKJHy2j/hasbro-bigwvid-G1retro-TC.jpg
Thundercracker's launcher positions
I posed Thundercracker's launchers to have one pointing up and the other pointing down, as a reference to how Thundercracker's weapons were positioned in the 1984 catalogue. :) I decided not to invert the wings though... that might've been too much. :p[/u]

We also made a similar promo video for upcoming Rise of the Beasts toys (not sure if I can say what they are). But I also added toys and other Easter Eggs to the background of that video too. :)

[MayzaPrime]

Very cool mate! must have been a lot of fun to setup

[janda the red]

very cool Gok!

:)

[Skyfire]

Big W sent me an email today saying the retro G1 preorder release date has been delayed by up to 2 more weeks.

[griffin]

I got the email too, saying it will be shipped before April 19.

[Deano85]

I ordered the G1 Thundercracker stickers from Toyhax yesterday. So no rush for Thundercracker, plus still getting a bunch of other Legacy figures anyways.

[danny-boy]

Got an email from Big W saying items have shipped. I definitely won’t get it today it’ll be after the Easter weekend break.

[Skyfire]

My Hound and Thundercracker have dispatched from Hoxton Park, NSW.

[danny-boy]

Got Thundercracker and Hound from Big W today. They weren’t well packaged but boxes were pretty much flawless. I bought Starscream and Hot Rod from Robot Kingdom a few months ago and they were better packaged but boxes were worse. Make of that what you will.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, the packaging by Hasbro is pure garbage. The outer package feels like thin cardboard, the figures are tied down to a cheap cardboard box, and the accessories come wrapped in fish and chips paper.

The figures though are what I’ve always wanted, G1 with anime accurate colours and no stickers. In alt mode they look like mini masterpieces. Absolutely love them I don’t know why they didn’t think of doing this sooner.

Keep them coming Hasbro.

[griffin]

Got an email from Big W saying items have shipped. I definitely won't get it today it'll be after the Easter weekend break.

I got the email too, which was weird, because just a few days earlier they were saying it would be delayed a couple weeks, but then managed to send it out only a day late (it was originally listed for April 5th).

[valkyrie_76]

My Hound and Thundercracker have dispatched from Hoxton Park, NSW.

We can have a race on who gets their parcel first :p

[MayzaPrime]

We can have a race on who gets their parcel first :p

Got mine yesterday

[Deano85]

Thudercracker arrived this morning. Just waiting on toyhax stickers now.

[valkyrie_76]

Got mine yesterday

You are slightly closer than us ;)

[MayzaPrime]

You are slightly closer than us ;)

It is an unfair advantage ;)

[Skyfire]

We can have a race on who gets their parcel first :p

You're on v76! :)

[Jay-Tron]

Just recieved Hound this morning. Have to say I'm pretty excited about this one.

[KELPIE]

Keep them coming Hasbro.

Agreed.

Hoping for Skywarp to round out the set... seems like a no brainer...

Also, Blitzwing and Astrotrain.

Outside of that, I don't know who they have the mould for, who was also in the animated movie, that would also make sense (i.e. not Ironhide/Ratchet).

Rodimus maybe?

[Paulbot]

Seen rumours of Perceptor and the Insecticons, both of which make sense for being in the movie and have been reissued in recent years. Blaster too? The Kup toy might be inline for a movie-colour reissue too

[valkyrie_76]

Seen rumours of Perceptor and the Insecticons, both of which make sense for being in the movie and have been reissued in recent years. Blaster too? The Kup toy might be inline for a movie-colour reissue too

I like those rumours.........let it all be true.

[Skyfire]

Got Hound and Thundercracker from Big W. They used a medium-sized, standard quality Big W carton (with good amount of brown sheet paper stuffing) that needed Thundercracker angled to fit inside, so the flap was slightly bent and very slightly creased at the back. Not unhappy. The rest of the box was fine and Hound was mint.

You beat me by the weekend v76.

[Cat]

I may as well try asking here. The last time Hound was reissued, his head wouldn't pop up the whole way. Is that still the case with this reissue, or has the problem been fixed?

[valkyrie_76]

Got Hound and Thundercracker from Big W. They used a medium-sized, standard quality Big W carton (with good amount of brown sheet paper stuffing) that needed Thundercracker angled to fit inside, so the flap was slightly bent and very slightly creased at the back. Not unhappy. The rest of the box was fine and Hound was mint.

You beat me by the weekend v76.

Mine was packed the same way and very little damage if any.

And no, we both picked up the parcel on the same day :cool:

[Deano85]

My Thundercracker was packed by itself with a bit of brown packing paper. Was slightly wedged towards the bottom which curved the top of the card slightly. Was able to straighten it out.

[valkyrie_76]

I may as well try asking here. The last time Hound was reissued, his head wouldn't pop up the whole way. Is that still the case with this reissue, or has the problem been fixed?

It looks like it has been fixed as it appears the head fully comes out but someone else can confirm as I dont have the reissue..

[griffin]

Mine was packed the same way, with Thundercracker on the bottom, with the flap bent up. If they used some sense, they should have been putting the Hound in first in the orders of both toys, allowing Thundercracker to sit at an angle on top of it, so that it would remain un-bent.

These are items that are targeting collectors, who by definition, are mostly going to want the packaging to be as undamaged as the toy, as it is likely to be kept or left sealed.

[Skyfire]

Mine was packed the same way, with Thundercracker on the bottom, with the flap bent up. If they used some sense, they should have been putting the Hound in first in the orders of both toys, allowing Thundercracker to sit at an angle on top of it, so that it would remain un-bent.

These are items that are targeting collectors, who by definition, are mostly going to want the packaging to be as undamaged as the toy, as it is likely to be kept or left sealed.

Mine was packed as you suggested, with Hound first then TC in the middle of the carton at a semi-vertical angle with the front facing angled upwards, and the top flap was still slightly bent toward the front of the box. But they used a lot of brown paper on top, so maybe that, and/or a forceful hand, pushed my box down a little. The shipping carton needed to be a bit larger, which often Big W does to the other extreme.

[Skyfire]

Hound's head seems fine. I also don't have the reissue but here are some pics. As for the seekers, both Starscream and Thundercracker have the legs angled a bit towards the feet, which is not present on my original TC. Looks like the newer moulds all have this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52828558266_c885f003ae_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827979312_dc7eb90a3a_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52828558146_0a38988a04_h.jpg

[Kranix]

I have the Hound reissue (TF Collection, purchased from Japan), and the head seems to pop all thexway out. Was this an issue for all of these releases or just some?

[Cat]

Hound's head seems fine. I also don't have the reissue but here are some pics. As for the seekers, both Starscream and Thundercracker have the legs angled a bit towards the feet, which is not present on my original TC. Looks like the newer moulds all have this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52828558266_c885f003ae_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827979312_dc7eb90a3a_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52828558146_0a38988a04_h.jpg

Yeah, that's definitely fixed. Thanks! I know what I'm ordering today.

[Skyfire]

Cat, Big W has free shipping over $35 for today only. Use code THURSDAY.

[Cat]

Cat, Big W has free shipping over $35 for today only. Use code THURSDAY.

You legend! Thank you!

[Paulbot]

Cat, Big W has free shipping over $35 for today only. Use code THURSDAY.

Thanks, that convinced me to make the purchase too

[valkyrie_76]

Cat, Big W has free shipping over $35 for today only. Use code THURSDAY.

Glad Im not the only sucker using this today.

[KELPIE]

I had two Starscreams delivered together. both squashed, however in alternating fashion. So on had its flap ben forward, the other had its flap bent backward. Wasn't happy about the situation. Going to be a bit of a risk with two TC's and two Hounds... and depending on when I order, two Hot Rods...


As for the seekers, both Starscream and Thundercracker have the legs angled a bit towards the feet, which is not present on my original TC.
I think there was a discussion earlier on of the other forums, that this is bending due to the way they are packed.

[Cat]

Mine arrived today, boxes in perfect nick, no bending on Thundercracker's legs either, so I got really lucky. It's amazing what a difference it makes having a Hound that can actually have its head pop all the way up. Now I want to buy a true vintage specimen just for that, as it feels like a completely different toy. Amazing.

Very happy with both of them, I can't stop smiling.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's amazing what a difference it makes having a Hound that can actually have its head pop all the way up. Now I want to buy a true vintage specimen just for that, as it feels like a completely different toy. Amazing.
G1 Hound's head pops up just as much as this Retro reissue. The only significant physical change they made is in the disabled missile launcher, otherwise this reissue is pretty much physically identical to the G1 toy.

Refer to comparison photos on the Retro Hound toy review thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/29612-Toy-Review-HOUND-(Retro-reissue)).

[Cat]

G1 Hound's head pops up just as much as this Retro reissue. The only significant physical change they made is in the disabled missile launcher, otherwise this reissue is pretty much physically identical to the G1 toy.

Refer to comparison photos on the Retro Hound toy review thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php/29612-Toy-Review-HOUND-(Retro-reissue)).

My reissue's head doesn't come up all the way, unfortunately, and I recall that was a VERY common complaint with that reissue. I hadn't realised any got out that worked, I assumed all were like that. I remember it very clearly, as I was extremely disappointed at the time, as it was my first experience with the G1 Hound mold, and it was such a let-down to have that happen, and then to find out it wasn't just me, but what seemed to be the majority of the run. Very disappointing, and it really damaged my view of Takara as a maker of fine wares. I'll be the first to admit I have a bad memory in general, but my memories on this are crystal clear.

[Skyfire]

Big W has G1 retro TFTM Hot Rod (https://www.bigw.com.au/product/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-autobot-hot-rod/p/256479) online now, $69 plus shipping.

[KELPIE]

Excellent - Time to put my BigW order in.

TC, Hound and HotRod here I come :)

[Trent]

Got my Hot Rod delivered on Friday. It’s glorious.

[Jay-Tron]

Hot Rod arrived today, the flap was bent forward a little to fit in the package box but I straightened it back up easily enough so no big deal.
Does anyone know why Hot Rod has only just been released now by Big W instead of being the first?

[DELTAprime]

Hot Rod arrived today, the flap was bent forward a little to fit in the package box but I straightened it back up easily enough so no big deal.
Does anyone know why Hot Rod has only just been released now by Big W instead of being the first?

I believe there was some sort of a delay issue with Hot Rod in multiple regions, not just Australia.

[KELPIE]

Well getting six all at once was quite expensive.

However, it might have helped, because they came in a bigger box and in pristine condition. not even a bent flap anywhere.

Agree - Hot Rod is the jewel in the crown but I'm pretty happy with all of them.

Hopefully the Insecticons aren't at that $69 price point.

[Fungal Infection]

Does anyone know whether Skywarp has been confirmed for release?

[Skyfire]

Retro TFTM Skywarp has not even been rumoured or leaked, let alone made official, I believe. But I'd bet my last dollar it will come - maybe #6 after Perceptor:

Tra Gen Retro 5 Perceptor
Product Number: F6946
EAN:5010996137920

Tra Gen Retro 7 Shrapnel
Product Number: F6948
EAN: 5010996152879

[reillyd]

Well getting six all at once was quite expensive.

However, it might have helped, because they came in a bigger box and in pristine condition. not even a bent flap anywhere.

Agree - Hot Rod is the jewel in the crown but I'm pretty happy with all of them.

Hopefully the Insecticons aren't at that $69 price point.

Wait, are Insecticons confirmed? That’s awesome if they’re being released. I’d gladly pay $69 for a bombshell

[janda the red]

Does anyone know whether Skywarp has been confirmed for release?

This is the news I'm waiting for too....

I agree with Skyfire, it's gonna happen.... hopefully just a case of when. :)

[KELPIE]

Wait, are Insecticons confirmed? That’s awesome if they’re being released. I’d gladly pay $69 for a bombshell

Well, Shrapnel has. Look at the post just above yours :)

You'd assume they'll get to the rest.

[Skyfire]

Interesting listing from The Falcon's Hangar in Singapore showing Kickback (https://www.tfh.com.sg/product-details.php?p=34903) as the insecticon, not the Shrapnel leak, but no picture. Perhaps an error - wait and see.

Rumour of Skywarp (https://tformers.com/50202) coming (F6952).

[reillyd]

Interesting listing from The Falcon's Hangar in Singapore showing Kickback (https://www.tfh.com.sg/product-details.php?p=34903) as the insecticon, not the Shrapnel leak, but no picture. Perhaps an error - wait and see.

Rumour of Skywarp (https://tformers.com/50202) coming (F6952).

Rumour confirmed by Hasbro rep in an interview https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-g1-reissue-line-news-skywarp-coming-interview-with-hasbro-about-that-lines-future/47797/

[Skyfire]

Kickback (https://www.pulps.fr/?v=item&id=356424) it is then.

[KELPIE]

I'm in for a set of Insecticons.

Throw in anime Galvatron and triple changers and we're on track to making this a really good subline.

Would love a Gnaw but I don't know if we've ever got a reissue of him... so perhaps they don't have the mould?

[DELTAprime]

I'm in for a set of Insecticons.

Throw in anime Galvatron and triple changers and we're on track to making this a really good subline.

Would love a Gnaw but I don't know if we've ever got a reissue of him... so perhaps they don't have the mould?

It would be cool to get a G1-accurate Galvatron again since ebay prices for the previous G1-accurate run were insane the last time I looked.

[reillyd]

I'm in for a set of Insecticons.

Throw in anime Galvatron and triple changers and we're on track to making this a really good subline.

Would love a Gnaw but I don't know if we've ever got a reissue of him... so perhaps they don't have the mould?

There was a recent interview with two Hasbro reps (one marketing I believe, one design) where they discussed the future of the retro line. The principle reason for their character selection is a VERY LIMITED selection of moulds that have survived the 40-odd years. Moulds back then were never designed to be used after such long periods, and so they mentioned severe mold segregation, and that many molds were scrapped, stolen, etc. So for example, despite the huge sales they’d generate, we’re not seeing dinobots any time soon.

The second factor they noted was the use of die-cast parts, which are now cost prohibitive.

One of the interviewers raised the issue of creating whole entire molds, as was done for the Japanese G1 cassette tapes. They were a bit coy about that, and acknowledged it has been done in the past. They then went on to note that they would require a copy of the original toy (and this was also linked to the mention of the 3D cad designs for classic G1 characters. Then they got really, really excited about this, noting that Takara Tony has the most comprehensive and exhaustive collection and archive of *every* product the company has ever produced, including multiple copies. That they can ask them for literally anything and that they have someone in the archive who can provide them with samples.

This has me filled with some hope, but it’s tempered with what they said about die-cast parts. So Grimlock isn’t coming anytime soon. And honestly, I’d prefer a battle-weary banged up one with die cast metal chest than some cheap flimsy plastic. I think this is a strong factor why they haven’t just reconstructed a mould and cranked them out.

For the record, G1 Gnaw was reissued as part of the Chinese reissues up until 1995 I believe https://www.highendtfs.com/90sreleases, but not since (e.g. Encore). Furthermore there’s a cheap KO version as well, in original G1 packaging, so it means there are a LOT of that character floating around out there. I can’t see it being a high priority to ‘reconstruct’ the mould for - sorry.

On a more likely note, Galvatron was reissued in a purple deco, and an ehobby version in original G1 deco. I have that one, and it came with a matrix chain necklace, but the Japanese sound effects not the English version. Still pretty cool to look at though.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

On a more likely note, Galvatron was reissued in a purple deco, and an ehobby version in original G1 deco. I have that one, and it came with a matrix chain necklace, but the Japanese sound effects not the English version. Still pretty cool to look at though.
That reissued Galvatron also came with a different battery set up too and I think a slightly remoulded, squinty face.

[KELPIE]

There was a recent interview with two Hasbro reps (one marketing I believe, one design) where they discussed the future of the retro line.
If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've had that in my to watch list for the past week :/


The principle reason for their character selection is a VERY LIMITED selection of moulds that have survived the 40-odd years. Moulds back then were never designed to be used after such long periods, and so they mentioned severe mold segregation, and that many molds were scrapped, stolen, etc. So for example, despite the huge sales they’d generate, we’re not seeing dinobots any time soon.
Yeah, it's kind of why I keep to moulds we know have been used and re-issued recently. Triple changers (the 'cons anyway) have come out a few times. So "anime" accurate versions, especially Astrotrain would be excellent.

It's also been long known that the Dinobots are off the table, no moulds for them. Likewise Mirage, Wheeljack and I think Sunstreaker.


One of the interviewers raised the issue of creating whole entire molds, as was done for the Japanese G1 cassette tapes. They were a bit coy about that, and acknowledged it has been done in the past. They then went on to note that they would require a copy of the original toy (and this was also linked to the mention of the 3D cad designs for classic G1 characters. Then they got really, really excited about this, noting that Takara Tony has the most comprehensive and exhaustive collection and archive of *every* product the company has ever produced, including multiple copies. That they can ask them for literally anything and that they have someone in the archive who can provide them with samples.

This has me filled with some hope, but it’s tempered with what they said about die-cast parts. So Grimlock isn’t coming anytime soon. And honestly, I’d prefer a battle-weary banged up one with die cast metal chest than some cheap flimsy plastic. I think this is a strong factor why they haven’t just reconstructed a mould and cranked them out.
Well that does provide some hope doesn't it. There's the assumption that latest Soundwaves have been from a recreation of the mould also. So I guess where there's a demand there's a way.


For the record, G1 Gnaw was reissued as part of the Chinese reissues up until 1995 I believe https://www.highendtfs.com/90sreleases, but not since (e.g. Encore). Furthermore there’s a cheap KO version as well, in original G1 packaging, so it means there are a LOT of that character floating around out there. I can’t see it being a high priority to ‘reconstruct’ the mould for - sorry.
I wonder if the KO's are from a stolen mould? If so then yeah, no Gnaws for us :(


On a more likely note, Galvatron was reissued in a purple deco, and an ehobby version in original G1 deco. I have that one, and it came with a matrix chain necklace, but the Japanese sound effects not the English version. Still pretty cool to look at though.
Also, plenty have argued that the colour is off and they could do a much better "anime" match if they wanted/tried.

If we get Galvatron, no reason why we couldn't also get Rodimus?

[griffin]

A bit of a twist in the tale...
Despite the packaging sample of Kickback showing up a couple weeks ago, this year's Walmart "Collector Con" exclusives are Skywarp and Shrapnel, complete with official images.
https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/07/12/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-shrapnel-skywarp-official-stock-images-489444

Maybe Kickback is for later, or it is being released with the other two but isn't listed on the Walmart site yet.

[griffin]

I just remembered, Kickback is with Perceptor... Shrapnel is with Skywarp.

[griffin]

Some in-hand pics of Kickback, with 6 Energon cubes... which will be a lot of Energon cubes if all 3 Insecticons gete released and they all have 6 with them.
I'm thinking that these smaller toys are being padded out a little, as their retail price in America is a little high at $30 (which is about Voyager class pricing, so if it comes here, it could well be around au$60... for a little Insecticon).
https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/07/15/transformers-retro-the-transformers-the-movie-kickback-in-hand-images-489595

I do like the cartoony yellow coloured chest... and at least these ones won't lose the silver on the wings and gun like the originals did.

[KELPIE]

That is pricy for a set of Insecticons.

How off putting is the yellow chest... I mean, they look good but wow you need to do a double take.

[kovert]

That is pricy for a set of Insecticons.

The Platinum Edition set of all three Insecticons (and three energon cubes) was only A$69.99 back in 2017.

[Skyfire]

Kickback and Perceptor have hit retail shelves in Singapore (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/singapore-transformers-sightings.155093/page-1058#post-21511770) at Toys R Us. Kickback is the same price as all the other reissues at SGD$59.99, so my guess is we will be paying $69 from Big W (plus delivery if under $100), which would be exhorbitant.

[GoktimusPrime]

How off putting is the yellow chest... I mean, they look good but wow you need to do a double take.
This is how I feel about all cartoon-coloured reissues. ;)

[Skyfire]

AIE Games has listed TFTM G1 Perceptor (https://www.aiegames.com.au/product/transformers-the-movie-perceptor-retro--15471.html), Kickback (https://www.aiegames.com.au/product/transformers-the-movie-kickback-retro--15472.html) and Shrapnel (https://www.aiegames.com.au/product/transformers-the-movie-shrapnel-retro--15852.html), for 1/9/23 release.

So, in addition to Big W probably getting these, I anticipate other local retailers too will stock them (as is the case for the previous TFTM G1 reissues) e.g. Gamesmen, Mighty Ape, Ozzie Collectables.

[griffin]

AIE Games appears to be a wholesaler... so these could really show up anywhere that isn't a major franchise, making it difficult to know where to find them, and difficult to know who will have the best price (as independent outlets will have larger markups).

[griffin]

Thanks to member Skyfire for pointing out that JBHifi have just listed all 4 waves of 1986 Movie Anime reissues, for release over the next three months (wave 1&2 for August, wave 3 for September, wave 4 for October).
That probably means BigW won't be releasing anymore after they did the first two waves late last year, for $69 each.

The JB prices are $65 each (a little cheaper than BigW), while the two smaller Insecticons are a little cheaper at $60 each (still very hefty).

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/search?page=1&query=transformers+retro

That makes it a little easier for tracking down the later four, even if it is a bit expensive... it is probably still cheaper than importing them from Asian or American outlets.

[Other]

I've already seen Starscream, Thundercracker, Hound and Hot Rod in store today so if you look around you might just find them locally real soon

[Skyfire]

Perceptor and Kickback are waiting for me to collect at JB Hi-Fi, says the email today, but the SMS today says the release date is 1 Sep. Skywarp and Shrapnel are due for 31 Oct release.

[Skyfire]

Ozzie Collectables has Skywarp (https://www.ozziecollectables.com/products/transformers-the-movie-skywarp-retro) for preorder, $69.99, releasing 1/10/23.

[KELPIE]

So I guess with 4, 40th retro reissues planned who do we think they'll be?

Who knows if we should take the "40th" aspect of it seriously, or if it'll just be a continuation of the line?

[Skyfire]

40th anniversary reissues will include anime-coloured Soundwave with Ravage and Laserbeak, and Blaster with Steeljaw (https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/10/05/transformers-40th-anniversary-retro-reissues-blaster-and-soundwave-official-images-495996#more-495996). Both are in G1 style boxes instead of the 1986 movie themed boxes. I don't know if these are officially part of the TFTM line after seeing the following entries (if not then someone start a new thread):

Tra Gen Retro 40th 1
Product Number: F8619

Tra Gen Retro 40th 2
Product Number: F8620

Tra Gen Retro 40th 3
Product Number: G0153

Tra Gen Retro 40th 4
Product Number: G0243

[danny-boy]

They keep reissuing the same figures. Give us something to get excited for Hasbro like a combiner gift set that’s not Devastator.

[GoktimusPrime]

They keep reissuing the same figures. Give us something to get excited for Hasbro like a combiner gift set that’s not Devastator.
Odds are the moulds for other G1 toys probably no longer exist, or are no longer in sufficient condition to be reissued, and creating whole new moulds is very expensive. One idea, which I must credit DrLockdown (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/member.php/4259-DrLockdown) for, is for HasTak to crowdfund new reissue moulds. Yes, this would mean that the reissues would become more expensive, but let's face it, a lot of collectors aren't price sensitive. They will pay big bucks for toys.

Because even a more expensive crowdfunded reissue would probably still only cost a fraction of what collectors are already paying for MISB G1 toys.
For example, let's say TakaraTOMY were to make new moulds based on the original G1 Dinobot toys, and let's say they sold for $200 each. Now considering that a MISB G1 Snarl recently sold for $460 (and that box is badly scratched), paying $200 for a MISB official reissue Dinobot is a bargain.
https://i.ibb.co/1zMpvkk/temp.jpg
The advantage of crowdfunding is obviously that collectors have to literally put their monies where their mouths are.

I'm curious to see how well Missing Link Convoy will sell. If that toy does well enough, will TakaraTOMY make more Missing Link toys, allowing us to have G1-accurate figures with full poseability?

[danny-boy]

I'm curious to see how well Missing Link Convoy will sell. If that toy does well enough, will TakaraTOMY make more Missing Link toys, allowing us to have G1-accurate figures with full poseability?

Takara have confirmed OP is the first of a new line so expect more announcements.

Too many reissues in different styles at the moment.

Hasbro:
1. Retro: Toon deco / New packaging.
2. 40th anniversary: Toon deco / Classic packaging.

Takara:
3. Missing Link: Toon deco / Toy Deco - Articulated - Classic packaging.

[KELPIE]

Takara have confirmed OP is the first of a new line so expect more announcements.

Great news! - I hadn't seen that.

[reillyd]

Damn, if I’d seen that MISB Snarl, I’d have probably made a bid myself. MISB toys are the best, but so very very rare.
I don’t think there’s a price we wouldn’t pay to recapture our childhood, and play with new minty fresh toys. I know lots of people are happy with mib, or even loose, but if you’re neurotic and eccentric like me (OCD), you want new pristine toys. I’d gladly crowdfund five or six hundred dollar dinobots, even if they would eventually be released at a lower price-point for the masses.

[janda the red]

Damn, if I’d seen that MISB Snarl, I’d have probably made a bid myself. MISB toys are the best, but so very very rare.
I don’t think there’s a price we wouldn’t pay to recapture our childhood, and play with new minty fresh toys. I know lots of people are happy with mib, or even loose, but if you’re neurotic and eccentric like me (OCD), you want new pristine toys. I’d gladly crowdfund five or six hundred dollar dinobots, even if they would eventually be released at a lower price-point for the masses.

Don't sweat mate.... that dinobot wasn't sealed, states in the ad it has a repro bubble.
Sealed it would've gone for 3-4 times that price.... even with the crappy box.

Crazy the price of sealed stuff these days...

[KELPIE]

As an MISB collector, I cry over the price change over the last... 20 years.

I always thought to myself the collectors will move onto other things or have other priorities and I'll be left to snap up all the cheap deals... but no, not the case.

... now here I am, on the edge of the cliff of other priorities and realising my vintage collection is probably where it's at... even for Go-Bots.

[janda the red]

@kelpie... yeah, I cry too! lol

I was trying to be just misb as well, but some things are just so out of reach.
Now I do mib as well.... means I can hopefully have at least an example of the things I want in my collection.

What's your focus?

[Fungal Infection]

Does anyone know whether a Retro 86 movie Bombshell has been announced? Would like to complete the trio if possible.

[Onslaught]

Does anyone know whether a Retro 86 movie Bombshell has been announced? Would like to complete the trio if possible.

There was a listing/leak of Retro Bombshell with Ramhorn earlier this year – so there's a good chance it'll be released.