Essential Comics

[Hot Rodimus]

What would everyones opinions on the 'must have' comics be?

Which storylines your favourite(s) or considered great due the importance of the story contained within?

As a long time comic collector it is suprising that I really don't have much in the way of Transformer comics. What I do have I enjoy and would like to add to, especially considering some of the artwork and stories I have seen in previews.

My only concern is that there is a fair bit out there and to begin with I would like to concentrate on the more 'essential' to continueum (sp?) or mind blowingly good stuff.

Oh and this is in reference to the more recent stuff as I am not so interested in the older stuff since I have or have read alot of that stuff already.

[Paulbot]

Essential:
War Within Volume 1
More Than Meets The Eye (not a comic story but worth it)

Other comments:
War Within Vol 2 is not as good IMHO, and Vol 3 ended when the series got cancelled.

Dreamwave's first G1 series was pretty rubbish, the second improved, and I think the third was excellent (but it built on the first two so if you went there first it might not make much sense, and it ended with cliffhangers when the comic got axed so it's a little harder to recommend)

Micromasters was a skippable mess.

Armada/Energon was enjoyable, better than the cartoon, but also got cancelled midstory. The "Worlds Collide" four parter was the pick.

IDW's series are very complicated that it's hard to read just some of it, but I think people might recommend Stormbringer, which is not bad. The Devastation series is my favourite.

However, some of the spotlights are worth picking up by themselves: Kup, Ultra Magnus, Shockwave, Ramjet, Soundwave (and Wheelie but I know most people hate the character and that might put you off too).

Hearts of Steel had a good idea (TFs wake up in the 1800s) but was poorly executed.

The Beast Wars comics might appeal to you f you like the Beast Wars toys.

In the Movie comics The Reign of Starscream Movie series was probably the best.

[Sky Shadow]

What would everyones opinions on the 'must have' comics be?

Which storylines your favourite(s) or considered great due the importance of the story contained within?

As a long time comic collector it is suprising that I really don't have much in the way of Transformer comics. What I do have I enjoy and would like to add to, especially considering some of the artwork and stories I have seen in previews.

My only concern is that there is a fair bit out there and to begin with I would like to concentrate on the more 'essential' to continueum (sp?) or mind blowingly good stuff.

Oh and this is in reference to the more recent stuff as I am not so interested in the older stuff since I have or have read alot of that stuff already.

The question is somewhat limiting - you've asked for:

a.) must-have comics
b.) that are favourites or important
c.) essential to continuum or mind-blowingly good and
d.) recent.

Depending on your definition of recent, there are two main 'recent' comics continuities - Dreamwave and IDW. None of the Dreamwave material is canonical within the current comics' continuity, so it's no longer important or essential to continuum. However, 'The War Within', 'The War Within: The Dark Ages' and the three completed issues of 'The War Within: The Age Of Wrath' are Dreamwave Transformers comics that are great enough that they just about fulfil your criteria (plus, they've recently had some Universe toys based on them, so I'd say that makes the comics relevant.) I also think they're the only modern G1 comics that are as good as the best of Marvel G1 (like 'Target: 2006' or the last thirty-odd issues of the US run.) Armada #14 to 18 and the very beginning of Energon were other highlights of the Dreamwave era.

IDW have just 'rebooted' their G1 comics with All Hail Megatron, rendering most of its previous offerings somewhat inessential. Spotlight: Kup is a labour of love from its creator, Nick Roche (Kup even has his own MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/lostkup ). The Beast Wars and Transformers Animated comics are all good too.

[i_amtrunks]

Mostly backing Paulbot up here.
DW
War Within Volume #1 was fantastic, but the other 1 and a half were not so great. I'd wait for the War Within omnibus coming out later this year (IDW reprinting DW material) and pick that up. Skip the G1 based ongoing comic, the first two trades are more or less horrible, but they did get better just before the series was cancelled.
Skip Micromasters to save your brain.

More than Meets the Eye volumes 1 &2 are certainly worth it, and with IDW just releasing re-prints, they are a good price now.

Armada and Energon are interesting but far from worth hunting down and paying for, unless you truly loved the Armada and Energon characters in the shows. Even then the comics are radically different.

IDW
It's tough to recommend IDW's main story stuff, purely because it is very much an all or nothing.

I'd suggest Stormbringer as it is easy enough to follow along, the Infiltration, Escalation, Devastation and revelation books are great reads, but not only will you be wanting those four trades, but the 3 Spotlight Trades that tie into the larger story.

It is easier to find trades than the single issues, but if you want to track down some fantastic stand alone Spotlights, Kup, Shockwave, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Blaster, Wheelie and Arcee stand up very well.
If you do get into the main IDW story I do suggest getting all the spotlight Trades, as only Spotlight Kup, Ramjet, Mirage, Wheelie and Blaster do not tie directly into the main story.

If you want to skip the previous main story of IDW (Infiltration through Revelation) and start fresh with Maximum Dinobots (a great starting point) you would benefit reading Spotlights: Shockwave, Soundwave, Grimlock, and Ultra Magnus.

Hearts of Steel was as Paulbot suggested, a great concept executed badly, same for Megatron: Origins.
Only nab Beast Wars if you liked the Cartoon, and you may also be interested in the Beast Wars sourcebook too.

Avoid the first movie comics, Reign of Starscream is passable, but far from necessary reading.

Leave issues 1-6 of All Hail Megatron for now, a trade will be out in April or so, and I think AHM might be best read in Trade format.

[Hot Rodimus]

I did not mean for the criteria to be limiting Sky Shadow as they are not all meant to apply. Each of these are meant to be separate (apart from them being recent) so in effect could possibly create multiple titles for various reasons, eg comic x is good because of the story line and comic y is good because it has awesome art or the story line is really important to the cannon of TF.

Once again I may have not explained myself all to well though so I apologise for that and thanks for the suggestions so far.

[STL]

I don't think that you really need to think about "essentials". I think its more important to approach it from what you like and what you're looking for as while continuity's nice and all, there's a lot of TF continuity out there.

My personal recommendations:

1.) Dreamwave's Transformers G1 vol.2: War & Peace: one of my favourite stories of all time. Brings together so many G1 elements and gives us some strong and distinct characters with a new touch. Loved the pace at which it went, was totally break neck and to this day is my favourite all time comic.
2.) Dreamwave's War Within vol.1: the epitome of all TF comics. Great production values, great story, exceptional artwork and it sparks your imagination to take off
3.) IDW's Stormbringer: Excellent story and lots of fun but feels like its too much a part of something larger so you're not completely fulfilled with it by the time you reach the end.
4.) IDW's Escalation: the pick of the IDW series in my opinion. The pace was just right between issues, it felt like an "escalation" in the Transformers war and lots of great character moments that actually fit within the story without being jarring. There's the best comic fight between Megatron and Optimus Prime too in this story.
5.) Dreamwave's War Within vol. 2: Not flash but it gives us a lot of cool concepts about life on Cybertron without Prime and Megatron. The factions I find to be fascinating and the art is awesome.
6.) IDW's Spotlights Wheelie, Blaster, Ultra Magnus and Kup were all very good stories that could be read on their own. Strong art in all of those too except Kup which has a differnet flavour.
7.) IDW's Beast Wars: the Ascending: very, very heavy and relies on your knowledge of the toys otherwise I'd highly recommend against it. I only enjoyed it b/c I knew of a lot of the toys existence and already watched the show. Otherwise its way too heavy to enjoy and poorly written from the perspective of the uncommitted BWs fan. There's just too much nuance to it.
8.) Devil's Due GIJOE/Transformers vol.3: Excellent art and great moments but the overall story is very questionable.

Keep in mind, I'm a very G1 centric person with my roots in the US G1 cartoon. Its from there that I broadened my horizons and its always my starting point (though not always) as to what I like

[Hot Rodimus]

Thanks for the suggestions STL, very informative and from the sounds of things I would enjoy reading at least the first 5 or 6 of you suggestions.

War within sounds like a must have so will hopefully pick that up first or one of the others that has been suggested.

Thank god I have a birthday coming up real soon as there is so much stuff I want.:)

[GoktimusPrime]

IDW also reprint G1 issues - I believe they're currently reprinting the Time Wars (YEAH!). I've already pre-ordered the TPB. :D :)

[roller]

all you need is a slab of G2 a couple of Dreamwaves and your good to go

[GoktimusPrime]

all you need is a slab of G2
I don't know if Hot Rodimus would consider the Titan reprints to be "recent"... Hot Rodimus you might want to give us a more clear definition of what you mean to avoid ambiguity. :)

Click here (http://tfarchive.com/comics/titan/reprints/) if you're interested in ordering any of the G1 and/or G2 reprints from Titan Books - there are links for each book from Amazon and Amazon UK. You can also check out your local (comic) book store and see if they can order them in for you - book stores like Kinokuniya (http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/indexohb.cgi?AREA=06) claim that they can order in any book for you so long as you can give them enough details to track it down (title, author, publisher - even better if you know the ISBN). Sorry, I'm not familiar with comic book and book stores in Brisbane. :(

[STL]

Thanks for the suggestions STL, very informative and from the sounds of things I would enjoy reading at least the first 5 or 6 of you suggestions.

War within sounds like a must have so will hopefully pick that up first or one of the others that has been suggested.

Thank god I have a birthday coming up real soon as there is so much stuff I want.:)

And there's great news too b/c the War Within (the first two series ie. Vol 1 + vol.2 the Dark Ages) is being collected into a Hardcover in the next two months at a great price of $19.99USD IIRC and that should equate to about $30 AUD.

Here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Within-Omnibus-Simon-Furman/dp/1600103731/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231761440&sr=8-1

I have both individual trades but will be picking that up for sure too. Maybe even in doubles. :)

[Paulbot]

It's not a hardcover like Marvel Omnibus. It's a paperback (in the Amazon description) and I think it's smaller sized like those Buffy (http://www.amazon.com/Buffy-Vampire-Slayer-Omnibus-Vol/dp/159307784X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231762485&sr=1-1) and Star Wars (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Omnibus-Rise-Sith/dp/1595822283/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231762519&sr=1-2) Omnibus trades you see in the stores.

[STL]

It's not a hardcover like Marvel Omnibus. It's a paperback (in the Amazon description) and I think it's smaller sized like those Buffy (http://www.amazon.com/Buffy-Vampire-Slayer-Omnibus-Vol/dp/159307784X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231762485&sr=1-1) and Star Wars (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Omnibus-Rise-Sith/dp/1595822283/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231762519&sr=1-2) Omnibus trades you see in the stores.

Noooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uhm, oh yeah... I'm a bit disappointed.

[griffin]

Thanks for the suggestions STL, very informative and from the sounds of things I would enjoy reading at least the first 5 or 6 of you suggestions.

War within sounds like a must have so will hopefully pick that up first or one of the others that has been suggested.

Thank god I have a birthday coming up real soon as there is so much stuff I want.:)

I have most of the comics prior to 2008 (I usually by the compilations, and get a few at a time, so can end up buying a whole years worth of comics at once), and can lend them to you if you want. Or at least, let you have a browse through them to see which ones you want to buy.

[Hot Rodimus]

Hi, yeah Gok is right I don't really consider the Titan reprints to be recent though I do own a couple and have read them many times as they are stories I am familiar with as a kid and love. Time Wars!!!! Oh yeah, I read most of that one as a kid too so might be interested in picking that up.

STL thanks for the link, I am not so picky about the size and format of this trade so will definitely be picking one up along with some of the other suggestions everyone has so kindly made.

Griffin that is an awesome offer mate and I can assure you that your comics would be handled with loving care from a long time comic collector who is extremely pedantic about the condition and care of his own collection:D (which you would have free reign to read if your interested in Wolverine and stuff of that veign lol You might enjoy one I have called We3 though). Can you Pm me your location and stuff. Would also be nice to meet a fellow Brissy TF fan.

[Hot Rodimus]

Also I am not to sure of the Comic shops in Brisbane. Used to be a regular at Comics Etc and Daily planet and get my picks reserved behind the counter every month but when I stopped working in the city I kind of fell out of the comic collecting game. Haven't been in there in a long time.

I also have (thanks to my wife for valentines day years ago) the first issue Dream wave ever brought out in the 4 different covers and the 4 posters that were realeased (op,megs,autobots,decepticons - been meaning to get em block mounted for ages) It was some special first release pack she bought for me from some supplier, so apart from that and the Titan reprints I have very little.

[griffin]

Not sure about the Comic shops in Brisbane, as I don't get into the CBD much, so rarely buy comics domestically. I usually import or catch up every year I go to BotCon (cheaper, as it saves on shipping).

I'll send a PM when I get home from work tonight - have to head off right now....