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jaydisc
30th January 2009, 09:44 AM
Now, when I was a kid and my Dad bought me TFs, it was from Toys R Us, Child World, or in rare situations, the overprice KB Toys. I never really got into Kmart or Target for anything until I started collecting TFs here, and I was always diametrically opposed to Walmart's business practices. They also had not reached New York in my time, so I had no first hand experience.... until now.

When & Where

These things seem to be strategically placed in 6 mile radiuses of each other in any urban area. It's scary. In two hours, I could hit seven of them.

One of the things I always appreciate when visiting the USA, is that every day, except Sunday, is what Australians would call Late Night Shopping (open till 9pm). I was shocked when I called a Walmart to see if by chance they were open a bit later, only to find out they're all open 24 hours a day, every day.

The Less Fortunate

I am certainly not opposed to Walmart giving less fortunate, mentally handicapped people jobs, but I feel that in their case, they do it because they can pay them nothing and make them work ridiculous hours. Walmarts are basically all open 24 hours. And there is always a Walmart greeter ready and waiting to say hello and goodbye, although there's nothing friendly or genuine about it during the night and graveyard shifts. It's sad and depressing.

Beyond the less fortunate, they also specialize in the less desirable. Going during the day is usually painful enough, but asking someone for help or if you have a question after 9-10pm, you're lucky if they just ignore you, and unlucky if they impose their inferiority complex or expressions of authority on you.

Pricing

When I found my first figure of interest, Animated Swindle, in New York, he was priced at US$7.77. That worked out to be about A$13! I assumed this was the standard pricing. However, once I began my trek to Florida, I stopped at another Walmart in Virginia, where I found truckloads of Cyclonus, Hound and Starscream, and they were priced at US$9.96. I asked someone why it was different from the other store and the website and she said they don't price match (:confused:). Another day later, at another Walmart in North Carolina, I found a bunch more, also priced at US$9.96. I posted a question at the TFW2005 sightings if this was a region-based-pricing thing or a sale. Some thought both. No one knew for sure.

When I finally arrived in Florida, I confirmed it's completely an individual store prerogative. In a 20 mile radius, one store had only Universe Deluxes at $7.77, another had only Animated Deluxe at US$7.77, the third had both at US$7.77 and the last had everything at $9.96.

As I had already purchased about 20 deluxes at the higher price, i started to try to get them to refund the difference. The first time I tried it, I only had about 5-6 figures on me and with only some slight persistence, they refunded the difference. The next day I went back with all the remaining figures, and had them do the same. Bonus!

So, of course, this is the upside of the moral dilemma that is Walmart. They have the best prices and best selection by a long shot, but they're notorious for treating you like shit, taking advantage of staff, censoring content and muscling manufacturers & distributors.

No One Makes You Shop at Walmart

This reminds me of an interview I heard with the author of the above named book describing the the Walmart effect and how it was destroying town's main streets and smaller businesses. And while no one really wanted that end effect, the sum of their collective actions was the obvious cause of it. The analogy he used was: say that you were walking through a field and you just finished a can of soda, and you couldn't find a bin. Of course, you have two simple options. Discard it on the ground or take it to a bin. Now, if this situation and its result is completely isolated to you, there's really not that much harm in you discarding it. However, this is not the way of life. We are not one person on this world. We are many, and if everyone does that, it has a detrimental effect. Same here. Sure, I love Walmart pricing and selection, but what am I causing and effecting?

On one of my midnight, six-store runs, I found a Swindle on a $7.77 peg and grabbed it, only to realize the next day that in my haste, I never confirmed the price at checkout and they charged me $9.96. I went back the next night, left Swindle in the car and had a perusal of the shelves and sure enough, the $7.77 peg tags were still there, although there were also $9.96 tags also saying "TRA Animated Deluxe" with different codes (not UPCs, Walmart codes). I went back to the car, grabbed Swindle and the receipt and went to returns and explained the situation. The lady came from behind the counter and said she would go check. I asked her if I should come and she gave me some snide comment like, "Uh, no. Believe it or not, I work here and no where it came from." I slightly rolled my eyes and patently waited what seemed like 10+ minutes for her to check and come back and she said there were three pegs and they all said $9.96. I said, "You want me to show you now?" and took her to the pegs and next to her three pegs of $9.96 were 6 (empty pegs) at $7.77. She said the code was different. i asked her how she correlated Swindle to EITHER of the codes as it didn't match. She couldn't answer, and I said, well then just give me a full refund. She obliged. As I was leaving, I told her that her position was ridiculous.

After nearing the exit, I saw her grab another staff member and start walking back to the toy area. I coyly followed and observed in adjacent, parallel aisles. They stopped and started pointing at the pegs and I approached. I asked what they were discussing if this was such a "regular" situation. I asked for a manager and the 2nd lady snidely identified herself as one. I re-explained the situation and could see the pleasure she took in rejecting me. I asked her for her name and the store number and wrote both down in my phone. I then went to take a picture of the pegs and to my absolute shock, they both dived in front of my phone saying it was store policy that NO PICTURES were permitted. I asked them to show me this policy. No. I started discussing the situation again while coyly positioning them away from the pegs and secretly positioning my camera. Then i leaned and snapped the pic and the two of 'em started screaming, and got on their walky talkies, "Call the Sheriff's Department. We got a guy that just took a picture after we gave him a direct order not to." I started laughing and casually walked to the exit while they appeared to be rushing for the phones. While not showing it, I was feeling a combination of eagerness and nervousness at the thought of having a discussion with a policeman about having to take a picture of a price tag so that I'd have proof of a situation when discussing it with the real manager.

Needless to say, no one stopped me, no one took down my number plate. No one called anyone and no one followed anything up. It was all idle threats.

By the 2nd to last day of my trip and my final midnight run, I was do disgusted with the Walmart experience and my willingness to participate and accept it.

Quite differently to Australia, Target's are THE BIG AND UPCOMING THING in the USA. They're potentially a challenger to Walmart's dominance, and their staff and customer service are nothing short of outstanding: Bright, cheerful and helpful. In my last week, Smokescreen, Dinobot, Inferno and Wreck-Gar were all sighted at Targets, so I was hitting those daily and avoiding Walmart as much as possible until that final trip.

I don't know what I'd do if I lived in the USA. Target's Universe Deluxes were on sale for 3 weeks until Feb 9 for $8.99, which was $1.22 higher than Walmart's $7.77 if and when I could find it. Was it worth it? In hindsight, I don't think so.

So, one final parting thought. One of the things that Walmart does is use its size to start to dictate terms to manufacturers, resellers and distributors. As some here have pointed out, it's Walmart that sets the prices of Transformers and it's Walmart that even has gone so far as to insist that figures that were intended for Universe (Fracture, Crankcase, etc.) appear in Movie packaging as that was selling well. Also, naturally, they are able to negotiate a cheaper wholesale price. Does that latter practice sound like any local retailer in Australia? C'mon, even compare their names and logos.

Here are their old logos:

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartlogoold.jpg http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/bigwlogoold.jpg

Here are their new logos:

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartlogonew.gif http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/bigwlogonew.jpg

I just did a quick Google to see if this was as blatantly obvious to anyone else and Wikipedia's Big W article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_W) came out on top with this excerpt:


Many of the techniques used by Big W in promotions are nearly identical to the US chain Wal-Mart, such as the in store "smiley face" and the "price rollback".[citation needed] Indeed, former Woolworths Chief Executive Officer and former Big W Managing Director, Roger Corbett, has a mentor relationship with a former President of Wal-Mart, and has been appointed to the board of the American retailer.[citation needed]

Well, that sounds like a rational explanation, but I'm leaning towards a greater conspiracy theory. Everything about Big W's methods and growth shows a synergy. I believe Big W to be a Walmart global experiment... to see if their winning formula in the USA has legs elsewhere. Be afraid... be afraid.

And now some gratuitous pics taken during my Walmart Adventures:

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb1.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart1.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb2.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart2.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb3.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart3.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb4.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart4.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb5.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart5.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb6.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart6.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb7.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart7.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb8.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart8.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb9.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart9.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb10.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart10.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb11.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart11.jpg) http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmartthumb12.jpg (http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart12.jpg)

roller
30th January 2009, 10:29 AM
yeah i heard bad experiences from friends regarding customer interaction from this shoppe

Thats hilarious that they were screaming and threatening to call the sheriff, yeeha!!! Can you upload the photo that you werrn't supposed to take? Or tare those it below your typin?

Sam
30th January 2009, 10:31 AM
A very interesting post. I think it's like this with many larger stores, they get stuff in for cheaper because they buy bulk, end up cutting out the competition, then some time in the future they decide to raise the prices because there's no other rivals around.

I am told that HobbyCo did that for a bit (at least I know they charge $2.95 for the LEGO catalogues, when all other stores would just let people take free copies, because LEGO didn't charge for them either).

Kyle
30th January 2009, 11:21 AM
I begin to wonder if Hasbro is not getting as much profit as they'd like in the USA so they charge us more over here? :confused:

Anyway, a very very nice read. Love the photos! Compared to our crappy TF shelves at local retail it does feel like Toy heaven over there. Love the pics with the cars. :p

Paulbot
30th January 2009, 11:26 AM
I've only visited one Wal-Mart, in the outer suburbs of San Franscico, and I immediately noticed those very familar looking smiley face and rollback price signs. Since Big W is a Woolworths company I always took it that the W was for Woolworths so that intrigued me.

I also had some rude customer service. I was there in the afternoon and it seemed very empty too (maybe because it was so big the customers were just spread out?).

I also visited a huge Target in LA earlier in my trip, which was much bigger than our stores and pretty much inline with what I was expecting Wal-Mart to be.

This time I am planning a shopping day as part of my trip and will probably check out Wal-Mart's for the cheaper prices, but if I do buy from their Target or Toys R Us I'm still going to save on buying locally.

1orion2many
30th January 2009, 11:27 AM
That sounds like an experience I could do without. I actually pay extra for a lot of my loacal figures because I get such good service from my local Toyworld:). I know a lot of people wouldn't do this but I prefer to deal with a pleasant person and pay slightly higher prices than pay less and get treated like dirt.:cool:

jacksplatt11
30th January 2009, 11:35 AM
My favourite episode of South Park is the WalMart one

Kyle
30th January 2009, 11:44 AM
but I prefer to deal with a pleasant person and pay slightly higher prices than pay less and get treated like dirt.:cool:

You aren't the only one. ;)

sifun
30th January 2009, 01:33 PM
sounds like quite the adventure. Why were those women being so unhelpful? Is that just the way it is? Its clearly their mistake. You should post on consumerist.com :)

jaydisc
30th January 2009, 05:33 PM
Can you upload the photo that you werrn't supposed to take?

You can see the $7.77, but it's quite blurry

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/IMG_0248.jpg

Wheel-J
30th January 2009, 05:37 PM
Is that the check out price or you pay for additional tax?

jaydisc
30th January 2009, 05:42 PM
Tax is calculated at checkout, and differs per state, sometimes even per county. Most of my purchases were at 6.5%.

Wheel-J
30th January 2009, 06:01 PM
I see. I just asked coz somewhere in New Jersey they say the price in the store is the price you pay. Though I'm not sure if there's a catch (e.g., higher tag prices??) coz I've never been in there. :o

Lint
30th January 2009, 07:53 PM
Interesting insight for those of us who've never been to the states jaydisc, cheers!

Autocon
31st January 2009, 01:08 AM
yes BIG W stands for big woolworths they are the same company

like coles and target kmart myer use to be

sh-t i hope nothing like that happens over here...
imagine how hasbro feels about it being man handled like that lol

Stompy
31st January 2009, 02:55 AM
sh-t i hope nothing like that happens over here...
imagine how hasbro feels about it being man handled like that lol

They retaliate with repaints. ;)

Great read jay. Very interesting. I still find 24 hour open times sheer madness.

MV75
31st January 2009, 06:45 AM
What are your thoughts on costco? We are getting those here soon.

Also bigw is nothing (as severe), like what you've described, woolworths is, and yea, bigw is part of that group, but woolworths is more prolific, but I shop at coles, WW can suck the big one.

I guess their laws on photography must be close to ours then? I know that here they can't do squat, you can even photograph the employees if you wanted here.

TheDirtyDigger
31st January 2009, 07:32 AM
you can even photograph the employees if you wanted here.

You realise you've just given me free rein to commence some heavy stalking there don't you.


Great read Jd. Wish I was there when those Walmart b*tches started with the 'NO CAMERAS, NO CAMERAs' crap. Opportunity for some top fun there.

As for the moral dilemma, personally I abhor poor customer service and that attitude has helped me save cash through the years, especially with fast food and other restaurants as I wont go back there if treated badly.
I would spend the little bit extra for the friendly service as you want to feel good after buying. Think of it as a 'pleasant experience tax'.
Also f*** Walmart, evil *** bastards.

MV75
31st January 2009, 08:54 AM
Nope, I didn't say you can stalk anyone. Back in your cage.

autobreadticon
31st January 2009, 09:58 AM
great read, haha loved you got all up on her face!

jaydisc
31st January 2009, 07:54 PM
Walmart the Virus (http://projects.flowingdata.com/walmart/)

TheDirtyDigger
31st January 2009, 08:46 PM
Walmart the Virus (http://projects.flowingdata.com/walmart/)

:eek::eek::eek::(

I'd be heading to the centre of Nevada to live.

iceburn
2nd February 2009, 09:05 AM
jay...see what your report made Wal-mart do :D!!!!! *lol*

http://tformers.com/transformers-wal-mart-increases-prices-on-deluxe-class-transformers-again/10889/news.html

jaydisc
2nd February 2009, 10:36 AM
Ha ha... nice.

More proof of Walmart's evilness:

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/walmart666.png

i_amtrunks
2nd February 2009, 10:39 AM
Nice write up Jay, kinda backed up what I had been told about Walmart by friends and family who had visited the states.

I believe that Woolworths and Big W want to trial a combined store, similar to Walmart, and there were stories in the local paper last September about Wesfarmers wanting to trial a combined coles/kmart store in Eastern Creek, (in the business park/industrial area on the old Wonderland site), but I don't think it got the go ahead.

Anyone else have a Kmart that is extending it's opening hours? Kmart Mt Druitt is now open till midnight on weekdays...

griffin
2nd February 2009, 02:29 PM
Coles Group already have the combined concept, at least up here, for 15-20 years, with 2 'Hypermarkets'. If they or Woolworths wanted to see if the concept could work, they just have to see how effective these Hypermarkets are.

i_amtrunks
2nd February 2009, 03:39 PM
Coles Group already have the combined concept, at least up here, for 15-20 years, with 2 'Hypermarkets'. If they or Woolworths wanted to see if the concept could work, they just have to see how effective these Hypermarkets are.

Could you explain more?

We have had Coles and Kmart stores that sit alongside one another and are the only stores on their block, but they are two separate stores. Are these Hypermarkets altogether in the one building, under the same roof?

jaydisc
2nd February 2009, 04:22 PM
In America, There are Walmarts and Walmart "Supercenters". There are also Targets and "Super" Targets. The "Supers" both contain at supermarket additions under the same roof. I think both types of both already have pharmacies, garden centers, and all sorts of bonus sh1t.

STL
2nd February 2009, 11:59 PM
Great write up.

I'm not a fan of Walmart type vnetures not b/c of their customer service but more b/c of their business structure. As profitable as it is, it creates an unhealthy market position in the long run.

But who is to blame really? Regulators for not ensuring that such market power's not concentrated. Or ourselves for the pursuing the savings w/out a sense of business morality?

Golden Phoenix
3rd February 2009, 12:10 AM
In America, There are Walmarts and Walmart "Supercenters". There are also Targets and "Super" Targets. The "Supers" both contain at supermarket additions under the same roof. I think both types of both already have pharmacies, garden centers, and all sorts of bonus sh1t.

They have sort of been doing that with Big W
The one at Doncaster has an optometrist

griffin
3rd February 2009, 01:59 AM
Could you explain more?

We have had Coles and Kmart stores that sit alongside one another and are the only stores on their block, but they are two separate stores. Are these Hypermarkets altogether in the one building, under the same roof?

A hypermarket is a single store that is supposed to be a step up from supermarket - in that it covers pretty much everything a grocery and a department store has. Think of it as a Coles and a Kmart next to each other, with the dividing wall knocked down. They are really huge stores.
The only drawback is that their toy sections are pretty pathetic. I never go there to check out their toy stock, because they rarely have any TFs in stock.
Not sure if they are a successful concept though, as the two stores are still operating, but no others have been opened during that 15-20 year period. I had heard rumours that they were going to be reverted to Kmarts or Coles a few years ago when Coles Group was going through a huge restructure (which saw the end of the Bi-Lo brand in most states), but it never happened, so maybe wasn't true.

griffin
3rd February 2009, 02:31 AM
This article talks a little about Hypermarkets:
http://enc.slider.com/Enc/Hypermarket

And this article details quite nicely about what Hypermarkets are, and how the Coles Group have tried it in the 80s without success, and almost tried them again 2 years ago, but shelved the plan when Wesfarmers bought them out.
http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2008/09/11/hypermarkets-in-demand-overseas-but-will-the-concept-ever-take-off-in-australia.html
It does omit the existence of the two Hypermarkets that have existed up here in Brisbane for the last 20 years, which undermines the purpose of the article.

I also came across this 'newspaper' article:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/04/12/1018333423981.html
It claims that Australia has no Hypermarkets, but this is a Sydney 'paper', so the writer probably didn't know about the ones in Brisbane.

But don't worry, you guys in Sydney and Melbourne will once again have a taste of hypermarket goodlines...
http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2008/10/22/costcos-australian-plans-not-impacted-by-economic-turbulence.html
As mentioned in the first link above, it could be claimed that Costco isn't really a true Hypermarket. It does cover all the product types a Hypermarket covers, but has a limited range on each product type (like in Aldi stores).

TheDirtyDigger
3rd February 2009, 07:43 AM
But who is to blame really? Regulators for not ensuring that such market power's not concentrated. Or ourselves for the pursuing the savings w/out a sense of business morality?

Well you can never trust the people to do the right thing concerning the greater good. Regulators need to be given teeth by the government. In the supermarket industry in Australia the big 2 are capped by the govt. at 80% market share. The greedy bastards try to get around this any way they can though.
I think a move to fascism is needed for a while to iron out all the kinks in society.

i_amtrunks
3rd February 2009, 09:10 AM
Thanks Griffin.

When you have a coles and a Kmart next to each other, and no other shops on the block anyway, I can't really see the difference to knocking the wall down.

Or am i the only one who does not like the idea of having meat, vegies, cereal and cat food in the same trolley as toys and t-shirts?

jaydisc
3rd February 2009, 09:23 AM
Costco, at least in the USA, is another departure from what we've been discussing here so far. Costco is what I refer to as membership-based wholesale. Basically, there is a yearly membership fee (e.g. US$50) which is required simply to gain entry to the store. The store is very warehouse-y in feel, and everything is sold in large quantities. For example, you can't buy a bag of chips, you buy a BOX of bags of chips. These stores have branched out to electronics and toys and naturally, don't apply the large quantity requirement there.

In the USA, this is the same as BJs and Sams Club (Walmart's wholesaler)

MV75
3rd February 2009, 05:41 PM
Jay, as I asked earlier, what are your thoughts on costco? How are they in comparison in the states? We will be getting them here at some stage soon.

And the hypermarket, it's great. I like the Aspley one. It's sort of a store lost in time, or how they used to be. As follows below.....




Thanks Griffin.

When you have a coles and a Kmart next to each other, and no other shops on the block anyway, I can't really see the difference to knocking the wall down.

Or am i the only one who does not like the idea of having meat, vegies, cereal and cat food in the same trolley as toys and t-shirts?

Mate, back in the day, a coles used to, as standard, have groceries, clothes, big toy aisle, etc. They used to all be in one. They often used to have cafe type resturants up the back of the store as well. They were more of a department store as standard.

I remember when they used to have the kmart/coles next to each other at Aspley as well. Back in the days where you could buy computer games, shot guns, clothes, christmas gifts, and do your shopping.

Years ago we did used to have this shopping nirvana. :)

Just yesterday I was wondering (on the size of northlakes, where you have to pack a lunch to trek from myer to target), at what point will people go, "nah stuff this, it's all too big". ?

I think that is coming. Shopping centres really are getting too large to be bothered going to every store. There are too many specialty shops inbetween.

I welcome the change back to department stores.

jaydisc
3rd February 2009, 05:52 PM
Jay, as I asked earlier, what are your thoughts on costco? How are they in comparison in the states? We will be getting them here at some stage soon.

Sorry, I must have missed the question. My partner does most of our grocery shopping and my mother does most of my clothes shopping (to this day ;)), so all I really shop for at retail are toys, and they don't seem to carry much. Everything else I buy online, so I don't really have much of an opinion.

If you're down with saving money by buying in bulk, it's a good deal. If you're the type who buys what you need as you need it, I doubt it'd be cost effective.

MV75
3rd February 2009, 06:16 PM
So they don't have the "monopoly" vibe that walmart does?

jaydisc
3rd February 2009, 06:49 PM
No, definitely not. They have 2 or 3 major competitors and are not in all areas of the USA.

i_amtrunks
4th February 2009, 10:23 AM
Mate, back in the day, a coles used to, as standard, have groceries, clothes, big toy aisle, etc. They used to all be in one. They often used to have cafe type resturants up the back of the store as well. They were more of a department store as standard.

The local Coles/Kmart near me were separated by a wall, but there was a dodgy restaurant at the back of the Kmart store for years, then in the mid 90's it was shut down. Always thought it was strange when I was a kid, but I guess it's no different to the larger complexes having 3 or 4 food courts in them! :D

blackie
4th February 2009, 10:30 AM
The local Coles/Kmart near me were separated by a wall, but there was a dodgy restaurant at the back of the Kmart store for years, then in the mid 90's it was shut down. Always thought it was strange when I was a kid, but I guess it's no different to the larger complexes having 3 or 4 food courts in them! :D

i remember those resturants.
everytime i went shopping with my grandma we would go there and get pancakes :D

jaydisc
9th March 2009, 09:27 PM
My favourite episode of South Park is the WalMart one

This was just on. Awesome.

jacksplatt11
9th March 2009, 09:31 PM
This was just on. Awesome.

Haha, yeah it's a classic

STL
10th March 2009, 12:19 AM
I just noticed that BigW has an optometrist section now. Not liking BigW much and I find myself avoiding them frequently enough.

Tetsuwan Convoy
18th March 2009, 08:35 PM
AN optometrist hey? I wouldn't go to an optometrist in Big W, they have enough trouble making sure the proces that scan on the register are right compared to the shelf, I wouldn't trust them with my eyes....:rolleyes:

i_amtrunks
19th March 2009, 09:33 AM
AN optometrist hey? I wouldn't go to an optometrist in Big W, they have enough trouble making sure the proces that scan on the register are right compared to the shelf, I wouldn't trust them with my eyes....:rolleyes:

Their "laser vision surgery" is just them pointing a portable scanner into your eyes! :p

fatbot
21st March 2009, 09:14 PM
The local Coles/Kmart near me were separated by a wall, but there was a dodgy restaurant at the back of the Kmart store for years, then in the mid 90's it was shut down. Always thought it was strange when I was a kid, but I guess it's no different to the larger complexes having 3 or 4 food courts in them! :D


Trunksy, if the kmart\coles is the one i'm thinking of, up until around 15 years ago it was one store, SUPERKMART The only place where you had to put a coin into the trolleys to be able to use one. It was great, you'd go round helping little old ladies with their trolleys, and get the coin for returning the trolley.

when i worked for coles 5 years ago, they sent me out there for a few weeks to cover someone and they still had the one staff meal room, the one stock area etc.just a flimsy wall seperating the two stores