Star Trek Movie

[TheDirtyDigger]

Whoa!!!!

Trailer makes it look Freaking Awesome!!! This will be a must see!

Star Trek the Awesomeness (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uiHeviygXw8&feature=related)

[loophole]

as long as its better than the last Star Trek movie (although that wouldnt be hard) i'll be happy

[Lord_Zed]

as long as its better than the last Star Trek movie (although that wouldnt be hard) i'll be happy

Hold on is this an odd or even move? Isn't the law of Star Trek every second movie is watchable?

It's and exciting trailer, but I'm not convinced that means a good movie.

[kup]

Hold on is this an odd or even move? Isn't the law of Star Trek every second movie is watchable?

It's and exciting trailer, but I'm not convinced that means a good movie.

It seems packed with 'summer blockbusterness' and dumb humor from what I hear. Its written by the same people who wrote Transformers so expect the same vibe.

(Waits for a joke scene in which Spoke pees on Kirk :) )

[liegeprime]

Meh, I like ST:Voyager instead. But having said that Im not much into ST anyways though I like the Borg concept. Wonder what will happen if the Borg invades Cybertronian space. ooooh Resistance is Futile!

[GoktimusPrime]

As a Star Wars fan (and member of the Jedi religion) Star Trek is Heathen Paganism*. Having said that, I'm really looking forward to the next Trek moofie! :D <lawl> That the beginnin part of the trailer reminded me George Lucas' THX-1138.

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*Tongue-in-cheek. :p No offence intended to anyone of the Star Trek faith. Live long and prosper. :)

[Lint]

trailer be awesome!

[jacksplatt11]

I'm not much of a Star Trek fan, I've only seen a couple of the movies with Patrick Stewart and none of the TV shows, so I'm only gonna be watching it for some action and hopefully a pretty coherent sci-fi plot

[SilverDragon]

As a Doctor Who fan, this is also heathen. Not that I've actually seen any Star Trek save for one really boring tape I got lent once.

Also, my first reaction on seeing that big creature in the trailer was 'Hey, I think I made that on Spore!'.

[Lord_Zed]

As a Star Wars fan (and member of the Jedi religion) Star Trek is Heathen Paganism*. Having said that, I'm really looking forward to the next Trek moofie! :D <lawl> That the beginnin part of the trailer reminded me George Lucas' THX-1138.

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*Tongue-in-cheek. :p No offence intended to anyone of the Star Trek faith. Live long and prosper. :)

Ahh the eternal war of Star Wars vs Star Trek and which one is better, this is about as likely to be solved as the Arab-Israeli conflict.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pQj_bwMf7DM

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, we had a guy in a Starfleet uniform at Fox Studios when I saw Episode III. Everyone rushed him and beat him with plastic lightsabres. :D Hrmmm... tempting to do a Star Wars cosplay if I get the time/motivation. When does this movie come out?

Here was my costume:
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Fox%20Studios%20Premie re/th_rots07.jpghttp://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Fox%20Studios%20Premie re/th_rots06.jpghttp://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Fox%20Studios%20Premie re/th_rots03.jpghttp://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Fox%20Studios%20Premie re/th_rots02.jpg
...not my costume, but an impressive costume of General Grievous - the cosplayer was on stilts attached in a way that re-created Grievous' backward knees!
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Fox%20Studios%20Premie re/th_rots01.jpg

And just for fun: Top 10 Reasons Why Star Wars Is Better Than Star Trek (http://www.eldar.org/~ben/funny/html/300.html) - There ain't no stun on a lightsabre. ;)

And to be fair: Top 5 Reasons Why Star Trek Is Better Than Star Wars (http://cueballcol.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/the-top-five-reasons-star-trek-is-better-than-star-wars/) - I like #2. Even as an avid Star Wars fan I can't argue against that. :p

[roller]

i hope Captain Pike shows up

i would like an updated action figure o him

i agree with Kup, it sounds like a sterotypical M. Bay movie, all action and no plot. Or a typical Bay movie if you sway that way :)

[loophole]

they have to have Capt. Pike you just cant not have him in a prequel movie about the Original Enterprise

[jacksplatt11]

He is being played by Bruce Greenwood and is in the movie, and in the trailer

[GoktimusPrime]

Captain Pike always reminded me of Davros (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Davros)... only way better looking of course. ;)

Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Do you understand the charges?"
Kif Kroker: "One beep for yes, two beeps for no."
Fry: <beep>
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Yes, so noted. Do you plead guilty?"
Fry: <beep><beep>
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Double yes. Guilty."
(Futurama)

[Lord_Zed]

Yeah, we had a guy in a Starfleet uniform at Fox Studios when I saw Episode III. Everyone rushed him and beat him with plastic lightsabres. :D Hrmmm... tempting to do a Star Wars cosplay if I get the time/motivation. When does this movie come out?



I'd rather do a Babylon 5 costume and say nerts to them both. :D

"Looks like your about to go, where everyone has gone before"

[Paulbot]

Aww, where's the Star Trek love? I guess the Star Wars fans are more vocal (when they aren't imagining making out with their sisters :p ) so c'mon, Trekkers represent!

I've heard good things about the film for non-Trek fans, but there's also a rumour(?) that spoiler villains from the normal/current Star Trek universe travel back in time and create a new timeline where Kirk and his crew get together earlier thus setting the majority of this movie and any sequels in a new alternate universe. end spoiler. It makes sense in the context of the Star Trek universe and doesn't retcon a lot of stuff out of being, but I'm still a bit unsure what I think about that.

But if you're keeping track, this is yet another hollywood film coming out this year with a former Home and Away cast member. (But if you've got to have a Home and Away member I'd take Kim over Tash anyday :rolleyes: )

[blackie]

i was hoping for a voyager style movie, something in the time the last few episodes skipped, but i guess thats too far gone now, but then agian, they got the majority of the enterprise crew together again for the last one :P

[loophole]

My favourite series of Star Trek is the original series so im very happy to see this movie come out and yes Star Trek is better than Star Wars :p not that i dont like SW, ST is just better

[roller]

i would like a series that is not le crap like the finale of Voyager, and the touchy feely out of continuity half the time 'Enterprise'

I think they should get new writers then Brannon and Braga or watever there called

and make it appeal to a massive audience, First Contact style

and enough of the same old tired story lines!!!!

Its always the same with Star trek

"we gotta have a black, an asian, a white man and a alien on the bridge"

look at every series, im not wrong

Pike 4 ever!!!! :D

[Lord_Zed]

i would like a series that is not le crap like the finale of Voyager, and the touchy feely out of continuity half the time 'Enterprise'

I think they should get new writers then Brannon and Braga or watever there called

and make it appeal to a massive audience, First Contact style

and enough of the same old tired story lines!!!!

Its always the same with Star trek

"we gotta have a black, an asian, a white man and a alien on the bridge"

look at every series, im not wrong

Pike 4 ever!!!! :D

That's the Star Trek formula in a nutshell, that and exploring strange new worlds and banging alien girls (If your Kirk).

Instead of making Enterprise they should have gone further into the future with the time police or what not.

And this Star Trek has new writters so maybe it will have the mass appeal of First Contact, I dunno the thing about Star Trek is it's a serial TV show, it works well as a serial but on the bigscreen it often winds up looking like a long Tv episode with slightly fancier effects.

But your right about them needing to do something new, Deep Space Nine is my favourte Star Trek simply because it broke more Star Trek rules than the others.

[GoktimusPrime]

There was a former Home and Away star in Star Wars too! (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elan_Sleazebaggano) He was in The (http://www.thedailyenlightenment.com/The%20Matrix-Buddhism%20Connection_files/mat11.jpg) Matrix (http://www.madogre.com/images/mousegun1.jpg) too. :) I don't watch Home & Away but I only know about this guy because he used to co-star with an ex-classmate (http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/07/dieter_narrowweb__300x438,0.jpg) of mine. (-_-)

[Paulbot]

Enough with the Star Wars talk in a Star Trek thread :rolleyes:

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm personally not a big fan of the Universal Translator... I would prefer it if non-human species just spoke their own languages with subtitles and folks just had to learn to be multilingual, like in Star Wars, Lord of the Rings etc. Heck... even humans have multiple languages! I find it difficult to imagine that the entire Vulcan or Klingon races would have just one language. In Middle Earth there are various different dialects of each language, e.g.: there are various kinds of Elvish tongues such as Quenya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBq2a7-k7LA) and Sindarin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFvG41htPkc).

Okay - so even if one were to suspend disbelief and accept the notion of a circuit that conveniently translates languages... why would their lips move as if they're speaking English? Even the Star Trek Wiki entry on the Universal Translator (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Universal_translator) states, "Were the device real, it would more likely have an effect similar to watching a movie dubbed into another language (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCYxKni5DNw)."

[Paulbot]

I'm personally not a big fan of the Universal Translator... I would prefer it if non-human species just spoke their own languages with subtitles and folks just had to learn to be multilingual, like in Star Wars, Lord of the Rings etc. Heck... even humans have multiple languages! I find it difficult to imagine that the entire Vulcan or Klingon races would have just one language. In Middle Earth there are various different dialects of each language, e.g.: there are various kinds of Elvish tongues such as Quenya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBq2a7-k7LA) and Sindarin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFvG41htPkc).

Okay - so even if one were to suspend disbelief and accept the notion of a circuit that conveniently translates languages... why would their lips move as if they're speaking English? Even the Star Trek Wiki entry on the Universal Translator (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Universal_translator) states, "Were the device real, it would more likely have an effect similar to watching a movie dubbed into another language (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCYxKni5DNw)."

Yes it would look like a dubbed movie and in Enterprise (where the technology was new) we saw this. The people of the 24th Century probably learn major alien languages at school anyway.

As for your examples it would not be logical for the Vulcan's to have multiple dialects and the Klingon's are united under a line of Emperors who have probably enforced a single language on their people by force since Kahless.

If you can believe that Han Solo can understand the big bear* that's following him around I don't see why you can't handle this. *(How I Met Your Mother reference)

If you don't like Star Trek fine, but no need to keep complaining about it in a thread which is about Star Trek. Any more and it's trolling.

[roller]

i hope Lord zeds favorite captain, Captain Archer shows up in the movie:)

he does live to over 120

and i assume this movie will feature the Enterprise launch

and 'in a mirror Darkly' it states that he attended the launch

fan boying is fun :D

[Lord_Zed]

That's just Gok being a language teacher, We could all poke holes in both the Star Wars and Star Trek universe all day, but that would be better on a thread of its own.

And just for the record the universal translator failed in the TNG episode Darmok where the aliens spoke in a metehorical langauge. Spotlight Wheelie reminded me of that episode a lot.


i hope Lord zeds favorite captain, Captain Archer shows up in the movie

he does live to over 120

and i assume this movie will feature the Enterprise launch

and 'in a mirror Darkly' it states that he attended the launch

fan boying is fun

I hear you Roller, I'm sure Captain Sisko will be in the film to, once again saving that fool Kirk from badguys from the future just like he did in the tv series. I know you'd enjoy that Roller. ;)

[kup]

I never understood the Star Trek vs Star Wars thing.

Its like being against of Bananas because you like Apples and vice versa. They are both considerably different with the only commonality being that its Sci-Fi and in space.

BTW: Star Trek has been in a steep declined due to bad mismanagement of the franchise in the past decade. Voyager became ridiculously stupid in its latter half and the Next Generation movies (the ones with Patrick Stewart) were pathetically bad minus the first one which was good but far from perfect as it pretty much made the Borg into a 'sexy alien' race.

[roller]

yeah i agree with Kup

who in their right mind greenlighted Star Trek nemesis?!!!

im sure i could write a better plot, c'mon- a clone of picard living on Romulus for 20yrs, blatant rip off of spocks sacrifice involving Data, whoopi goldberg with a hat?!! need i go on :D

i like voyager, but i still find it hard to believe they got magiced away and turn a 80yr journey into a comfty 7yr flight and arrive home unscathed.

I still dont understand Endgame, one minute they are about to return to the Delta quadrant, next i see a green torpedo launch, someone says "Where right were we want to be" then explosion, they are home, roll credits.

I hope the new filum doesn't screw up and attracts a decent crowd, but i wont hold my breath

[Lord_Zed]

I never understood the Star Trek vs Star Wars thing.

Its like being against of Bananas because you like Apples and vice versa. They are both considerably different with the only commonality being that its Sci-Fi and in space.



It only makes sense for those who have had exposure to predominatly one franchise, those of us who know both fairly well tend to see the upside and downside in both.

In the spirit of co-operation sure wish I'd bought that toy gun shaped like the Millenium Enterpise years back.


i like voyager, but i still find it hard to believe they got magiced away and turn a 80yr journey into a comfty 7yr flight and arrive home unscathed.

Voyager is one of my least favourte Star Trek series, mainly becuase there was so much rehash, but also becuase of the reasons you point out. It annoys me that Voyager was always perfectly clean and happy even in hostile teritory in the middle of nowhere. it should have been more like the Year of Hell episode. I think the new Battlestar has done a better take on the whole space wanderers thing, I love the way the Galactica just gets more dirty and scarred as the series goes on.

Star Trek Nemesis's only upside was that the movie before was even worse, I mean come on the galactic fountain of youth and face stretchy aliens the only good points that movie had was inflatable Data, and the backdrop of the Dominion War.

So what's the count now 10 Star Trek movies 4 watchable ones, maybe this new movie will make 5?

[kup]

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Very much an acquired taste more than a movie that can be enjoyed by the mainstream.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Excellent and a cult classic.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock - An ok movie but nothing special

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - A great movie which the mainstream really dug due to a good mix of clever humor and action as well as an environmental theme.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - A WTF? movie which just went to the way weird and over the top.

Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country - One of my favorites, it showed the Fedaration as a not so 'We are all happy and tolerant' society and it had a good mix of action and political intrigue.

Next Generation Movies

Star Trek: Generations - WTF? Dull and 'out there' plot and a really crappy return and demise of Kirk.

Star Trek: First Contact - Overall a good movie but nothing special but several bad 'dumb down' retcons were made to the Borg and some of the Trek Earth history. It's biggest crime was the introduction of the 'Sexy Borg queen' which made the borg from an unstoppable and inhuman cybernetic force to something laughable as a clear attempt at making them more appealing to the general audience through sex appeal.

Star Trek: Insurrection - Was stupidly crap and barely remember it due to this.

Star Trek: Nemeis - A clear attempt at trying to mainstream the franchise by incorporating ridiculously stupid crap such as 'Picard does donuts with the dune buggy' and overall a lame plot but not as bad as Insurrection.

[GoktimusPrime]

The Borg Queen is a hottie. ;)

I'm looking forward to this movie... a lot of the technology, cosmetics, costumes on the original Enterprise looks/feels outdated by today's sensibilities (e.g.: mini-skirts for female officers, huge chunky buttons etc.)... it'll be interesting to see how they deal with these things as the trailer makes it look more "gritty" as we've come to expect from more contemporary movies. :)

[loophole]

I have only seen Nemesis once and have since removed from my memory.

I only watched the motion picture the other day, and my dad was saying when it came out it was momentues ocasion because it was the first time the original cast members were together again since the show other than that now a bad movie overall it was almost just a movie to "show off" what they could do with special effects.

STII is pretty cool but my two favourites would have to be Voyage Home and First Contact havent watched any of the others in awhile hmmmm.... i think i know now what i must do this weekend WATCH STAR TREK MOVIES!!!! :D

[roller]

costumes on the original Enterprise looks/feels outdated by today's sensibilities (e.g.: mini-skirts for female officers)...


i dont know, look at all those people who play with 'Bratz' girls

I think i heard some PC looney, possibly the official star trek website, saying that they change 'to bodly go where no MAN has gone b4" to "...where no one has gone b4" for the Next Generation to be more PC, talk about being touchy feely, its not sexist, man, in that context means humanity.

miniskirts rock ask twiggy :)

Nemesis i believe was trying to appeal to car hoons, there was no story at all, they show up on Romulus have dinner and shoot a bit, then try to tie up the star trek universe by having the romulans becoming friends, its like World peace but for the entire Star trek galaxy

[Lord_Zed]

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Very much an acquired taste more than a movie that can be enjoyed by the mainstream.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Excellent and a cult classic.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock - An ok movie but nothing special

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - A great movie which the mainstream really dug due to a good mix of clever humor and action as well as an environmental theme.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - A WTF? movie which just went to the way weird and over the top.

Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country - One of my favorites, it showed the Fedaration as a not so 'We are all happy and tolerant' society and it had a good mix of action and political intrigue.

Next Generation Movies

Star Trek: Generations - WTF? Dull and 'out there' plot and a really crappy return and demise of Kirk.

Star Trek: First Contact - Overall a good movie but nothing special but several bad 'dumb down' retcons were made to the Borg and some of the Trek Earth history. It's biggest crime was the introduction of the 'Sexy Borg queen' which made the borg from an unstoppable and inhuman cybernetic force to something laughable as a clear attempt at making them more appealing to the general audience through sex appeal.

Star Trek: Insurrection - Was stupidly crap and barely remember it due to this.

Star Trek: Nemeis - A clear attempt at trying to mainstream the franchise by incorporating ridiculously stupid crap such as 'Picard does donuts with the dune buggy' and overall a lame plot but not as bad as Insurrection.

So by your account movies 2,4,6,8, and 10 where each better than the movie that preceded them, so the odds and evens law of Star Trek movies is still in full effect then, unfortunately that means this next movie will suck. :(

But Star Trek 12 should rock! :D

For the record I kinda like Generations because it was like the last episode of Nexrt Gen, and that jerk Kirk got killed of! Pretty so-so as a movie though.

And sadly for those who didn't know Ricardo Montalbán passed away last month.

RIP Khan.

[GoktimusPrime]

STII is pretty cool but my two favourites would have to be Voyage Home and First Contact
+1 Those are also my favourite Trek films. :)


i dont know, look at all those people who play with 'Bratz' girls
By that logic all male Starfleet officers should look like G.I. Joe with Kung Fu grip. Okay, some of them do have Kung Fu Grip (http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/treknobabble29.jpg). ;)

Dang that Borg Queen is hawt. I'd so assimilate her. ;)

[roller]

+1 Those are also my favourite Trek films. :)


By that logic all male Starfleet officers should look like G.I. Joe with Kung Fu grip. Okay, some of them do have Kung Fu Grip (http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/treknobabble29.jpg). ;)


Exactly! in space you have to be all muscly or your muscles die

Does anyone remember the first episode of Next Gen? They had guys walking around in dresses:D id rather have a woman in a dress then Captain picard

[GoktimusPrime]

Or Zap Brannigan in a mini-skirt. ;)


in space you have to be all muscly or your muscles die
Only in a weightless environment. Star Trek ships have artificial gravity so that's not a problem. I liked how the Enterprise NX-01 (as captained by your beloved Jonathan Archer) didn't have fully functioning artificial gravity in some parts of the ship and was sometimes offline due to problems. (reference (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Artificial_gravity))

[griffin]

The Enterprise series is a must see series, to lead right into the original series (explains so much of the Federation, why it exists, and how it started). Hopefully this new movie doesn't contradict anything in Enterprise, to still have me recommend seeing it. Every other Star Trek series makes more sense after seeing Enterprise.

[kup]

The Enterprise series is a must see series, to lead right into the original series (explains so much of the Federation, why it exists, and how it started). Hopefully this new movie doesn't contradict anything in Enterprise, to still have me recommend seeing it. Every other Star Trek series makes more sense after seeing Enterprise.

Without any spoilers there are already considerable continuity discrepancies based on the trailer alone and other official release nitpick material.

So its either:

- Alternate timeline (strongest possibility given the franchise history and other rumors floating around)
- In practice a reboot but officially it isn't (like AHM)
- Total retcon

[Paulbot]

Without any spoilers there are already considerable continuity discrepancies based on the trailer alone and other official release nitpick material.

So its either:

- Alternate timeline (strongest possibility given the franchise history and other rumors floating around)
- In practice a reboot but officially it isn't (like AHM)
- Total retcon

The rumour I heard (based on previews of the prequel comic) is that it's spoiler a new timeline created by people from the TNG/DS9/VOY era travelling back to a pre-TOS era and by their actions creating a new alternate timeline that the rest of the movie (and its sequels) takes place in. end spoiler

[roller]

its so tempting to read spoilers:eek: fortunately i have enough self control- i have almost succeeded in forgeting the name of the new tf movie too :)

Pike pike pike pike !!!!

[roller]

i saw an IDW prequel comic the other day in comic shop

it had someone on the cover, spock i assume, they had black hair, just a face