Wolverine Movie // Wolverine and X-Men cartoon [Archive] - Ozformers Transformers Club of Australia (otca.com.au)

i_amtrunks

2nd February 2009, 04:22 PM

equal parts cool effects to equal part "Twilight effects" make me hesitant about this film...

And yes by Twilight I mean that abomination that every female under 30 years of age seems to go as crazy about as if I lit their favourite pair of shoes on fire.

orionpax1

2nd February 2009, 06:15 PM

This looks bloody awesome can not wait for this, i just hope they have not shown the best parts in the trailer as they do with most movies. And did i mention Deadpool and Gambit woo hoo.

Lint

2nd February 2009, 07:08 PM

Looks like a watch for me

Paulbot

2nd February 2009, 07:09 PM

In related news I just found out that "Wolverine and the X-Men", the latest X-Men cartoon, is screening at 8.15 Sunday mornings on Channel 2.

jacksplatt11

2nd February 2009, 07:13 PM

In related news I just found out that "Wolverine and the X-Men", the latest X-Men cartoon, is screening at 8.15 Sunday mornings on Channel 2.

Yeah I saw the ad for that before, might have to set the VCR, do you know if it's starting this week, Paul? Or has it been on for a few weeks now...

EDIT: Looks like it's the 2nd part of the first episode, it's a 3 parter, shouldn't be too hard to catch up

Robzy

2nd February 2009, 07:39 PM

Gutsman Heavy

2nd February 2009, 07:56 PM

In more related news, the original cartoon is being released on dvd (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/804452) (FINALLY!!! :rolleyes:) This cartoon was brilliant!!!

HOLY SH*T!

I've been waiting FOREVER!

roller

2nd February 2009, 08:11 PM

Yeah, apart from the Dark Knight himself, X-Men have always been one of my favourites! Can't wait for this one either!

In more related news, the original cartoon is being released on dvd (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/804452) (FINALLY!!! :rolleyes:) This cartoon was brilliant!!!

wait wait wait :eek:

is this the one with the intro that goes

ner ner ner ner ner ner ner

nah nah nah nah nah

ner ner ner ner ner ner

ner ner ner

etc etc

Lord_Zed

2nd February 2009, 09:07 PM

So which continuity is this film in?

TheDirtyDigger

2nd February 2009, 10:05 PM

Same as the Xmen films although it's looking like they retconned Sabretooth.

In more related news, the original cartoon is being released on dvd (FINALLY!!! ) This cartoon was brilliant!!!

Ive got all these on VHS. About 16 or so tapes I reckon. I should sell them before word gets out about the DVD release....:o

GoktimusPrime

2nd February 2009, 10:05 PM

I've heard it's in the same continuity as the X-Men movies but is like prequel or something, explaining Wolverine's origins.

SNIKT-SNIKT!!

Didn't Wolverine live in feudal Japan at one stage? I'd love to see that in the movie.

TheDirtyDigger

2nd February 2009, 10:15 PM

Didn't Wolverine live in feudal Japan at one stage? I'd love to see that in the movie.

Wolverine's apparently a fully fledged Samurai although I don't know how that works. Must be similar to how Tom cruise was the last Samurai......:rolleyes:

GoktimusPrime

2nd February 2009, 10:45 PM

Must be similar to how Tom cruise was the last Samurai.....
lawl! I know what you mean. :)

Robzy

2nd February 2009, 11:35 PM

Ive got all these on VHS. About 16 or so tapes I reckon. I should sell them before word gets out about the DVD release....:o:D Lol - I remember hunting these videos down too (I think they were released around 2001)

Golden Phoenix

2nd February 2009, 11:45 PM

Wolverine's apparently a fully fledged Samurai although I don't know how that works. Must be similar to how Tom cruise was the last Samurai......:rolleyes:

From what I know, he is incredibly old due the his healing ability.
He is known to have fought alongside Captain America in WWII.
He was in Japan at one point and if I remember correctly, he did train in a village for people who had been turned into human weapons. He had a wife and kid and everything.
But during his final test where he had to not defend himself from some attackers something happened, like an explosion on a near by mountain or something (I read this a long time ago) and he unsheathed his claws, failing the test.
Bucky had something to do with it I think.
Can't remember, only read it once, and I was pressed for time.

That trailer looks good anyway. I'm certainly up for it.

iceburn

3rd February 2009, 12:09 AM

i'm definitely after this movie after realising it last year that it will be out in May this year! can't wait....

i_amtrunks

3rd February 2009, 09:25 AM

In related news I just found out that "Wolverine and the X-Men", the latest X-Men cartoon, is screening at 8.15 Sunday mornings on Channel 2.

It's pretty good, I've seen the first dozen or so episodes, animation is reminiscent of the Spectacular Spiderman (which is on Saturdays before Tf:Animated.) Season 2 has just started airing in the US.

And of course the 90's cartoon version of Xmen had to go and be released, I just went and 'researched' it over the weekend. :rolleyes:

kup

3rd February 2009, 02:43 PM

It's pretty good, I've seen the first dozen or so episodes, animation is reminiscent of the Spectacular Spiderman (which is on Saturdays before Tf:Animated.) Season 2 has just started airing in the US.

And of course the 90's cartoon version of Xmen had to go and be released, I just went and 'researched' it over the weekend. :rolleyes:

I have been watching Wolverine and The X-Men and it is indeed surprisingly good. Not as good as 90s X-men because this time things such as discrimination and public violence against 'racial' groups is much more toned down due to modern sensibilities but the stories are still well written. Bob Forward from Beast Wars also wrote a few episodes.

I have seen all the episodes released so far (16). They are still in Season 1 not 2.

Tetsuwan Convoy

3rd February 2009, 03:18 PM

. Must be similar to how Tom cruise was the last Samurai......:rolleyes:

Slightly off-topic, but I interpreted the other guy (name has been forgotten for now) as the last Samurai, Not Tom. Thats how I managed to get through that one.

i_amtrunks

3rd February 2009, 03:44 PM

I have seen all the episodes released so far (16). They are still in Season 1 not 2.

My bad typing, I meant that Spectacular Spiderman has just started Season 2.

Got some catching up to do with Wolverine and the Xmen.

Paulbot

3rd February 2009, 03:59 PM

Not as good as 90s X-men because this time things such as discrimination and public violence against 'racial' groups is much more toned down due to modern sensibilities

Yeahbutwha? :confused:

I don't get what you mean by that statement. I think there's still the same amount of prejudice these days against minority groups, and some groups have it worse now than ever.

Or do you mean that the writers have left it out because Americans have (until recently?) been much more xenophobic and if they included acknowledging people who are different are actually okay, viewers would have turned off?

I liked the 90s cartoon but mostly I was despairingly noticing all the places it interpreted the "real" X-Men stories wrong. Nowadays I can see it like the movies or Ultimate X-Men as a retelling. But I still cringe when people refer to the X-Men Animated Series cartoon as canon (I have over 800 comic books that say it isn't! :p ).

The new Wolverine movie should be alright and I'm glad it's a prequel to the other movies. I hope they do the Magneto prequel too.

TheDirtyDigger

3rd February 2009, 04:08 PM

(I have over 800 comic books that say it isn't! :p ).

I'm trying to collect all Uncanny up to issue #400. After that it got too commercial and turned to crap. I just really love the Chris Claremont stuff. That's the 'real' Xmen to me.

The new Wolverine movie should be alright and I'm glad it's a prequel to the other movies

I like how it's just not Wolverine as well. Looks like they got Emma, John Wraith, Deadpool, Blob and obviously Gambit. Wonder if they'll have other Canadians in there...

I hope they do the Magneto prequel too.

That'd be pretty swell.

IMO.....

http://www.yarattik.com/rufio/wp-content/uploads/magneto_was_right2.jpg

Paulbot

3rd February 2009, 04:18 PM

I'm trying to collect all Uncanny up to issue #400. After that it got too commercial and turned to crap. I just really love the Chris Claremont stuff. That's the 'real' Xmen to me.
By issue #400 you're 120 issues past his depature (minus the 15 or so issues from his short return to Uncanny) :o

TheDirtyDigger

3rd February 2009, 04:25 PM

By issue #400 you're 120 issues past his depature (minus the 15 or so issues from his short return to Uncanny) :o

Ahh that's because I meant issue 300.:o

I can stand getting keeping those last few to take it up to a nice round number.

i_amtrunks

3rd February 2009, 04:30 PM

I like how it's just not Wolverine as well. Looks like they got Emma, John Wraith, Deadpool, Blob and obviously Gambit. Wonder if they'll have other Canadians in there...

About time Gambit appeared, would have liked to have had him play a part in the Xmen series, but I think he would have clashed with Wolverine as the "reluctant hero" a bit too much.

And Emma is getting extremely popular of late, anything x-men I chance seeing seems to have her in a larger and more important role.

Golden Phoenix

3rd February 2009, 11:49 PM

Yeahbutwha? :confused:

I don't get what you mean by that statement. I think there's still the same amount of prejudice these days against minority groups, and some groups have it worse now than ever.

Or do you mean that the writers have left it out because Americans have (until recently?) been much more xenophobic and if they included acknowledging people who are different are actually okay, viewers would have turned off?

I think he means that it had the racial stereotypes in it, and it would be considered politically incorrect to show such things.
Kind of like when you watch older movies that would have gotten a higher rating by today's standards

kup

4th February 2009, 02:29 AM

I mean the cartoon played on the realities of discrimination against minorities groups or people who are different in human societies. That was a reoccuring and prominent theme in 90s X-men which is much more toned down this time around and less direct.

The 'racial' discrimination themes in X-men is societie's fear against mutants and in 90s X-Men you had radical groups such as 'Friends of humanity' and so forth which seriously discriminated against them and somewhat reflected similar issues that exist in all human societies.

Paulbot

4th February 2009, 09:20 AM

Ah it's a shame then that this element has been downplayed in the show, as for me personally I'm an X-Fan because they are the superheroes I most relate to because of the prejudice they face.

GoktimusPrime

4th February 2009, 09:56 AM

*nods* I agree. I think the single most important theme in X-Men is its social commentary on discrimination/prejudice; and not only racism, any kind of prejudice. Sir Ian McKellan (Magneto) said that as a gay man he could relate to the prejudice theme in the X-Men films. I think one of the most powerful lines in the movies was in the first one where Magneto points out to Rogue that as a Jew who survived the Holocaust he witnessed his family being persecuted for simply being born different to those in power. I like how he specifically said "those in power" and not "the majority" as it also includes things like apartheid where a minority who happen to have political power discriminate against a majority.

But I still cringe when people refer to the X-Men Animated Series cartoon as canon (I have over 800 comic books that say it isn't! ).
I feel the same way about the G1 Transformers cartoon! :p But at the end of the day I accept that the G1 cartoon is canon too - just different from the comics. :)

Omega Supreme

4th February 2009, 10:03 AM

Deadpool better get horribly deformed in the movie, Im a pretty big fan of his and dont think I could tolerate him with a normal face.

TheDirtyDigger

4th February 2009, 10:43 AM

they are the superheroes I most relate to because of the prejudice they face.

Yeah well your lot deserve the prejudice they come up against in society. Goddam Dept. of Transport employees. You should all be thrown in concentration camps and your messiah the evil Kosky put on public trial.

roller

4th February 2009, 10:45 AM

i wish i could throw cards like Gambit

Paulbot

4th February 2009, 10:48 AM

Yeah well your lot deserve the prejudice they come up against in society. Goddam Dept. of Transport employees. You should all be thrown in concentration camps and your messiah the evil Kosky put on public trial.
:p :D

GoktimusPrime

4th February 2009, 02:56 PM

i wish i could throw cards like Gambit
I wish I could throw my own faeces like Optimus Primal. :p

kup

4th February 2009, 06:31 PM

I wish I could throw my own faeces like Optimus Primal. :p

I can see the Japanese version of that with flashing backgrounds and whatnot.

"MONKY POWERED POOP ATTACK!!"

komikskolektor

4th February 2009, 08:50 PM

Here's the link to Wolverine Vs Hulk Movie

http://www.zshare.net/video/54764408360ac55a/

STL

4th February 2009, 11:21 PM

Yeah, apart from the Dark Knight himself, X-Men have always been one of my favourites! Can't wait for this one either!

In more related news, the original cartoon is being released on dvd (http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/804452) (FINALLY!!! :rolleyes:) This cartoon was brilliant!!!

Hot damn. I got this a few years back off of eBay b/c it jsut wasn't around Will get it again though. It was what got me into comics and is one of my favourite cartoons. Its got one of my favourite cartoon stories ever, the multi-part one where Apocalypse takes the Axis of Time. That was just loads of awesomeness.

TheDirtyDigger

4th February 2009, 11:38 PM

Its got one of my favourite cartoon stories ever, the multi-part one where Apocalypse takes the Axis of Time. That was just loads of awesomeness.

Beyond Good and Evil. Great 4-part story they tried to cram every mutant into.:)
My VHS tape of it though has the sound fading in and out for most of it.:(

jacksplatt11

4th February 2009, 11:45 PM

I loved watching X-men before school back in the day, was awesome. I always used to watch all the credits to see the characters in 3D haha, and how awesome was the intro song.

I was going to get the episodes via... other means, but hopefully they release them all on DVD because I will definitely be buying them

hotaru_oz

5th February 2009, 11:25 PM

GoktimusPrime

5th February 2009, 11:55 PM

I wish I could throw my own faeces like Optimus Primal. :pI can see the Japanese version of that with flashing backgrounds and whatnot.

"MONKY POWERED POOP ATTACK!!"

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/qroboconvoy_unchi.jpg

Paulbot

24th February 2009, 04:43 PM

I've seen the first three episodes of Wolverine and the X-Men now. In general I like it, nothing upsets this X-Fan yet. It doesn't seem to matter that I only saw a few episodes of Evolution (or if this is a direct sequel?) but it does have a clear movie influence (like the Ultimate comics). I can sort of see this as a continuation of the movie universe from X-Men 2 ignoring the offensive X-Men 3.

Emma has been added in a good way, matching her joining the core team in the Morrison comics. I like that the team is being put back together slowly as it helps the characters stand out. Using Domino on the Brotherhood team with the Scarlet Witch seems overkill -- you really don't need two characters with vague luck-based powers. But Pyro is Australian again which is good (I thought it was going to be Rusty Collins with Boom-Boom until he spoke).

I had to laugh at the first episode when they showed Wolverine riding his motorbike and wearing a helmet! Why does a mutant who can heal pretty much any wound and whose skull is covered with an unbreakable metal need to wear a helmet? Answer: censors! Of course it's fine for Wolverine to walk into a burning train wreck but he can't not wear a helmet... "think of the children!" :rolleyes: