Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[Paulbot]

Oh, those are a different sort of Legends to the current type (which is what I thought you meant). They are the robot only versions of the Pretender Classics (Jazz, Grimlock, Bumblebee, Starscream) from around 1989/1990 and weren't sold in Australia (as far as I know)

[Sam]

I have a question about the Quintessons.

What role(s) did they, and their planet play (if any) in the comics continuity?

Please enlighten me with your knowledge. Thanks!

[Paulbot]

They only appeared in the UK story, Space Pirates. Their planet was being destroyed so they were making plans to conquer another metallic world to make their homeworld. Cybertron was top of their list and they attacked Transformers there and on Earth but were eventually beaten by an Autobot-Decepticon alliance and exiled to space with their planet destroyed.

They do appear in the US comic in a straight adapation of the cartoon episode Big Broadcast of 2006.

In the Dreamwave comics it was looking like they were involved in some mysterious events in Cybertron history, and responsible for all female Autobots, but the story never got completed.

[Robzy]

I'm surprised TFC-00 Prime is still so expensive despite the recent Encore re-issue. I'd been holding out for the price to drop b/c of the Encore but that unfortunately didn't happen. :(

I always thought that was because the TFC Prime came with the Collector's Album (which everyone wants/needs). I may be wrong tho...:confused::)



interesting because i have never seen these figures before
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=170208234938&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

i cant seem to find these galleries from the major TF websites

Here's the "Jazz" one on Seibertron...

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php?id=1462&size=0&start=0

Screamer, Bumblebee and Grimlock are on there too :)



They are the robot only versions of the Pretender Classics (Jazz, Grimlock, Bumblebee, Starscream) from around 1989/1990 and weren't sold in Australia (as far as I know)

I'm pretty sure they were sold in Australia - well, at least I definitely know Grimlock was... cos my best friend in Primary School had him...

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php?id=1463&size=0&start=0

I remember this figure specifically cos he was really cool! :)

[Paulbot]

I meant the non-Pretender versions. I still have all the Classic Pretender versions. :)

[Robzy]

Oh... in the words of Optimus Prime... "My bad"! :D

[STL]

I had Classic Pretender w/out shell Jazz. I always thought I was missing parts but never realised till now it was packaged singularly as part of a "classic" line

[Paulbot]

I had Classic Pretender w/out shell Jazz. I always thought I was missing parts but never realised till now it was packaged singularly as part of a "classic" line

The only difference between the Pretender and non-Pretender Legend version of Jazz (other than lack of shell) was that Legend Jazz had Pretender Bumblebee's gun (and non-Pretender Bumblebee has Pretender Jazz's gun).

[TheDirtyDigger]

I always thought that was because the TFC Prime came with the Collector's Album (which everyone wants/needs). I may be wrong tho...

I have it (the book) but I don't really want/need it and it has a few books in there from various figures.
What would anyone be willing to pay for it?

[autobreadticon]

thanks every1 for answering my question, guess i will be just collecting the robots and not the shells :D

[sanbot]

Hi All,

I'm trying to find a transformer which I had when I was a kid but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it.

I know its a bit vague, but all I can remember is that it transforms into a spaceship and is maroon/redish in colour. I think it was an autobot.

Any ideas people?

[Paulbot]

Scattorshot?

[kup]

Try this:

http://www.tfu.info/ID/index.htm

here is what I got based on your description:

http://www.tfu.info/ID/redplanes.htm

[STL]

I have it (the book) but I don't really want/need it and it has a few books in there from various figures.
What would anyone be willing to pay for it?
I want the box. I don't care too much about the book, just the box.

[TheDirtyDigger]

I want the box. I don't care too much about the book, just the box.

Haha...no I want the box. It displays well and is a neat lttle storage compartment for all those Primey goodies.

[autobreadticon]

i just realised the movie scouts are repaints of older transformer molds..:eek:

which line are they from ?
Which one are new molds?
What repaints of characters are they?

thanks

[Paulbot]

They are repaints of Energon and Cybertron Scouts. If they come with a key they are from the Cybertron line, if they don't they are from Energon.

Here's who's who:
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Movie_%28toyline%29#Target_exclusive_Scouts

[Gutsman Heavy]

Have the Universe Branded Cybertron figs been released in Australia? I want the deluxe two packs!

[STL]

Have the Universe Branded Cybertron figs been released in Australia? I want the deluxe two packs!

Nope unfortunately. I waited and waited but recently grabbed them for about $27 each off eBay from the US shipping included. I don't think we'll get them but if we do, they'll likely be in TRU like Snowcat ended up being.

[Gutsman Heavy]

thanks STL, eBay it is then,
What about the Movie Deluxe Cybertron repaints (Big Daddy etc) and Scouts (Warpath)? I really like the look of some of those, Big Daddy, Grindcore and Warpath are win!

[Pulse]

What about the Movie Deluxe Cybertron repaints (Big Daddy etc) and Scouts (Warpath)? I really like the look of some of those, Big Daddy, Grindcore and Warpath are win!

Big Daddy is the Shiznit! You will lurve him! :D
I've also got all 12 of the Movie/Allspark scouts & I have to say (except for Arcee & Elita-One) their new paintjobs are very nice indeed. Trust me, you won't be disappointed with them. :)

[Gutsman Heavy]

Are the scouts in local stores? (If memory serves the Deluxes are not here)

[Pulse]

Are the scouts in local stores? (If memory serves the Deluxes are not here)

Except for Warpath, Stormsurge & Crosshairs, I've seen all the other 9 scouts in Myer, DJs, Big W, Kmart, Target, TRU & Uncle Pete's (Do you have a Toyworld/Uncle Pete's type of store in your state?).

Hit the stores tomorrow & I'm sure you'll find a couple that appeal to you. :)

[roller]

I got g2 gobots Frenzy today, he is reddish

so i guess it finishes that debate about who is who, right?

[Pulse]

I got g2 gobots Frenzy today, he is reddish

so i guess it finishes that debate about who is who, right?

Er Yeah. :D

Something tells me that Rumble/Frenzy debate is gonna keep continuing until the Aliens come down & finish what they started with Cartman...

[Autocon]

is there a place to post ur photos of ur collection up?

[Pulse]

is there a place to post ur photos of ur collection up?

Just start a new thread here: http://www.otca.com.au/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=15

[Autocon]

thanks
thought that was just for arty type stuff

[roller]

A scientific approach to the cognitive functions of the majority of senior fans


The reason you dislike G2 is because your minds and bodies were undergoing 'significant' change during those years

Your teen angst brains gave you a rebellious streak that made you lash out at the current tf series, G2.

Years later, awed by poseable bws toys you forgot about G2 and the lingering memory of teen rebellion forever shaded your vision of what is truly a spectacular line.

Scientific fact people, yep airtight, right?


right!

[dirge]

I don't dislike G2, I loved some of the new toys. I don't like the random bright colours on some of the toys, and the cartoon offers nothing that the G1 cartoon hadn't aleady done.

Gimme Cyberjets over Cyberslammers anyday! (:

[sanbot]

howdy all,

I am still not having any luck finding that transformer that I mentioned in an earlier post. I think I'll just put it down to my hazy memory from my childhood :D

On to another question... My friend is going to America and I'm thinking to take advantage of this. So, are there any transformers that you can only get in the States and not Australia? I'm talking any generation.

Or anything in the states that is significantly cheaper then in oz?

[roller]

The Universe 2 pack of Repugnus and Overbite were not released in Australia


the toys of the current lines would probably be cheaper as in past years the price of tfs in America has mostly been cheaper then here, and our dollar is king at the moment

[Paulbot]

The average price of a Deluxe on the shelf in America is $US10 which gives you an idea of how much cheaper they are.

The Wal-Mart exclusive Movie deluxes (BigDaddy, Jolt, Grindcore, Divebomb) may not come out here and would be worth looking for to get cheap.

You might also look out for Classics Devastator, another recent toy that never it here.

[sanbot]

Overbite, looks pretty cool.

I saw Devastator classic when I was in Taiwan. Was going to get it but unfortunately I had to show some restraint on my spending hehe

Any other suggestions? In terms of the "bigger" ones?

Is Wal-Mart a US version of Kmart? Hence cheaper? Any other retailers recommended to check out?

[roller]

walmart gets exclusive tfs occassionaly, only sold at their stores.

Not sure what the current, if there is one, walmart exclsuive

[Paulbot]

Wal-Mart looked like a bigger Big W store to me. And Roller the four deluxes I mentioned are their current TF exclusive.

[Pulse]

Have you heard the rumour about Walmart possibly opening a few stores here in Oz?
Does that mean we'll be getting those TF exclusives as well :D? (not bloody likely)

[sanbot]

pulse, wouldn't that be great if they did have tf exclusives? but i agree, not bloody likely hehe

Is there a website that I can source whats exclusive in the US and what prices to expect?

[Paulbot]

This is my first spot to look for what on shelves in America, and the exclusives are listed separately: http://www.eyrie.org/~dvandom/BW/sightings.html

Movie toys and merchandise listed on their own page because there's so much:
http://www.eyrie.org/~dvandom/BW/movie.html

Dave's reviews (as well as being my favourite US reviews) always mention the (US) price he paid too.

[roller]

Actionmaster Axer apart from the ARcee spotlight has he appeared in any othe fiction?

[sanbot]

Thanks Paulbot, I'll check it out.

[roller]

we try again

Actionmaster Axer apart from the Arcee spotlight, has he appeared in any other fiction?

[Paulbot]

No, he doesn't seem to have, although I have a vague memory that he's in the background of one of the last Marvel G1 comics.

[Pulse]

Hey Guys, I was wondering if you might be able to provide me with some insight on this issue that's been bugging me. Thanks ahead of time. :)

Is there any main reason why Hasbro decided to change BW Primal & Megs from a Bat & Alligator to a Gorilla & T. Rex?

Were these 2 original designs "too basic"? Did the target audience not really connect with Primal & Megs being a bat & alligator?

I've been googling this & I can't seem to find anything to answer my query.

[kup]

Hey Guys, I was wondering if you might be able to provide me with some insight on this issue that's been bugging me. Thanks ahead of time. :)

Is there any main reason why Hasbro decided to change BW Primal & Megs from a Bat & Alligator to a Gorilla & T. Rex?

Were these 2 original designs "too basic"? Did the target audience not really connect with Primal & Megs being a bat & alligator?

I've been googling this & I can't seem to find anything to answer my query.

The original toy only story was that Bat Primal was actually G1 Prime reformatted and Croc Megatron was indeed G1 Megatron reformated using 'genetic experimentations'. The concept of Beast Modes was also considerably different to the cartoon (and following toy waves) in the sense that it was more Beast Machines in Nature. They weren't robots 'wrapped' around artificial organic skin but were actually Cyborgs composed of both robotic and organic parts.

By the time the cartoon was in preproduction, the writers (who did massive amounts of research on Transformers G1&G2) realized that the toy Beast Mode concept would not fly well with fans despite Hasbro pushing it so they changed it completely to make the Alt modes more Pretender like in concept, successfully maintaining the Transformers as robots similar to G1 despite organic looking Beast Modes instead of Cyborg Creatures.

I believe that the Original Bat Primal and Croc Megs were intended to be reformated into Gorilla and T-Rex modes to explain the larger figures but thankfully the cartoon writers decided to make the setting of Beast Wars to take place an untold number of centuries after the end of G2 with a whole new generation of characters.

I believe that this is also a reason why many of the BW cast have G1 names despite being completely different characters. They ware originally intended to be their G1 namesake!

Nowadays G1 names are slapped at random on figures to maintain copyright.

The Bat Primal and Croc Megatron story is only isolated to the initial toy release, it never made it to mainstream canon.

[Pulse]

Thanks kup. :)

I guess a hell of a lot of planning/research went into the early stages of the BW era. Considering the debacle that was G2, they either had to save TFs or they would have followed the same path of Gobots.

[roller]

in idw its says that the alligator form was optional but megatron went with the stronger trex form

[roller]

is 2007 movie megatron technically a protoform? he never seemed to scan a new mode and he looks the same in the comics, your thoughts?

[STL]

is 2007 movie megatron technically a protoform? he never seemed to scan a new mode and he looks the same in the comics, your thoughts?

My interpretation was that a protoform was a minimalist form for TFs when they go on long travels through outer space to conserve energon. They re-scan a new mode after they arrive at the new destination or access something from their old database.

I figured that since Megatron crash landed on Earth when he was in pursuit, he retained his basic Cybertronian form?

[dirge]

No, because he travelled through space in his established alternate mode, which happens to be a non-Earthen form.

[Autocon]

wat is the time line
G1 G2 BW MW BM armada universe energon cybertron?????

:confused:

list all the toy lines if u can

[Pulse]

wat is the time line
G1 G2 BW MW BM armada universe energon cybertron?????

:confused:

list all the toy lines if u can

Um, this might help: http://www.seibertron.com/toys/ (Remember, alot of lines like Alts/Binaltech, Classics, Universe, MPs etc. overlap one another)

[kup]

is 2007 movie megatron technically a protoform? he never seemed to scan a new mode and he looks the same in the comics, your thoughts?

I think that the term 'protoform' in the movie has been changed from a newly formed Transformer to one which hasn't yet acquired a 'native' alt mode.

[roller]

so going by that logic Kup, do you think he is a protoform?

Has anyone seen online HeroicDecepticon lately?

[autobreadticon]

hay, do fake encore ironhide and ratchet exist?
and are they being sold on ebay?

[Pulse]

hay, do fake encore ironhide and ratchet exist?
and are they being sold on ebay?

I've never heard of a KO Encore Ironhide & Ratchet :confused:

[autobreadticon]

Hay guys , need help identifying the names of mini-cons that are not repaints that come with say deluxe, supreme , ultra , etc.... transformers. Usulally not in a team (3 pack)

It has to be a mold not released with any of the teams in any of the series.

For example the mini-con appeared as a single for Armada but later repainted in a 3 set in cybertron.

thanks :)

[griffin]

This should cover all the minicons from Armada to Cybertron:
http://www.tfu.info/faction/minicon.htm

Otherwise, there are the individual series lists.
Armada - http://www.tfu.info/series/armada.htm
Energon - http://www.tfu.info/series/energon.htm
Cybertron (not complete) - http://www.tfu.info/series/cybertron.htm

[autobreadticon]

thanks, TFU is a great website:)

[STL]

As most would know, I'm a very patient guy but I've been waiting for my order from HLJ for almost 3 weeks now. It shipped via SAL and was supposed to have gone by the 16th April. Normally I would've received it by now but I haven't and am getting rather concerned. Does anyone think I should wait for a bit longer or initiate a dispute?

And an extra note: I tried using the forum search function to find the old HLJ thread but it limits me to a string of 4 characters which is a pain. Maybe we could shorten it to two letters? For RK? BW? G1? type threads?

[roller]

since i have Deftwing and Ironfist does that mean i have all the Tfs considred Lightformers?

[Paulbot]

since i have Deftwing and Ironfist does that mean i have all the Tfs considred Lightformers?

Yes

[roller]

ta, do the Japanese have an equivalent of BotCon?

Does Takara do anything at BotCon?

[autobreadticon]

Is there any difference in WST random pack HOT ROD
and
TRU exclusive Hot Rod
in terms of the toy?

It seems WST random Hot Rod is easier to verify that it is not a KO than the red box TRU pack.


When will the Robot heroes - Final battle packs be released?

I can't seem to find the 'bad ebay seller thead'

Does anyone know a good reference link to all the Macdonald toys ever made ?(i lost the link)

Any1 know of the Kinder surpirse transformer figures?

Does any1 know the current market value of BOTCON 2000 choro-Q toys?

Also a question to Griffin, can you give us a progress report on the news from the Hasbro Australia in terms of the exclusives they mentioned ?

thanks

[Pulse]

Is there any difference in WST random pack HOT ROD and TRU exclusive Hot Rod in terms of the toy?

It seems WST random Hot Rod is easier to verify that it is not a KO than the red box TRU pack.


Sorry, I can't help you with that :(



When will the Robot heroes - Final battle packs be released?


According to this page: http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=561 They were scheduled to have been released in Big W stores in Jan-Feb? (Last item on list) So, your guess is as good as mine :rolleyes:



I can't seem to find the 'bad ebay seller thead'


I can't find it either :confused: but here's the old international one: http://otca.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=477 & the old Aussie sellers one: http://otca.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=2864



Does anyone know a good reference link to all the Macdonald toys ever made ?(i lost the link)


Here you go: http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vfastfood.html#orig



Any1 know of the Kinder surpirse transformer figures?


Not that I know of... :confused:



Does any1 know the current market value of BOTCON 2000 choro-Q toys?


Check Demonbay: http://search.ebay.com/transformers-choro-Q_W0QQcatrefZC6QQdfspZ32QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQfro mZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsabfmtsZ1Q QsacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsaobfmtsZinsifQQsargnZQ2d1 QQsaslcZ2QQsatitleZtransformersQ20choroQ2dQ51QQsbr ftogZ1QQsofocusZbs



Also a question to Griffin, can you give us a progress report on the news from the Hasbro Australia in terms of the exclusives they mentioned ?


Sorry, I can't help with that :D



thanks


Hope I've helped with some of your q's :)

[liegeprime]

ta, do the Japanese have an equivalent of BotCon?

Does Takara do anything at BotCon?

I believe its more something like Supanova - theres the Winter Wonder Festival or Wonfest which is all about robots, anime etc. Not just TFs but not as dissapointing like Supanova in regards to TFs, as the Japanese do love their robots ( especially Astroboy). There was also a Tokyo Toy festival coinciding with "Boys day" (a festival for boys, just as there is a Dolls Festival aimed primarily for the girls). I believe HLJ has a link in their website to last years TokyoToy Fest 2007.

With the second query better wait for Griffin to answer that, I have certainly no idea if they do anything at Botcon since AFAIK Takara is limited in their market to the Japanese, while overseas and everywhere else Hasbro manages marketing and promotions. Probably a little bit:D

[griffin]

Now that others have done all the hard work for me... :p


Is there any difference in WST random pack HOT ROD
and
TRU exclusive Hot Rod
in terms of the toy?
It seems WST random Hot Rod is easier to verify that it is not a KO than the red box TRU pack.

Not aware of a KO, or what it looks like. No idea on differences between the two releases of the real version either. Probably some minor colouring difference, if any.


When will the Robot heroes - Final battle packs be released?

As mentioned in the link posted above, Hasbro can change their release schedule at any time, or cancel it altogether.


I can't seem to find the 'bad ebay seller thead'

It was removed for re-working. It will return in some form later.



Also a question to Griffin, can you give us a progress report on the news from the Hasbro Australia in terms of the exclusives they mentioned ?

I think the Toyfair report had a few updates, but would have to ask again for any revised release schedules.


do the Japanese have an equivalent of BotCon?
Does Takara do anything at BotCon?

Japan had two 'BotCons' around 1998, but as liegeprime mentioned, they have a number of toy related conventions that have Takara and Transformers as a part of them. I don't think they have had a purely Transformers themed convention since their BotCons.

There are no Takara presentations or official Takara guests at BotCon, either because they are not relevant to the American release of Transformers, or the language barrier. A number of high level Transformers designers from Takara are there each year, but mostly because it is 'the annual Transformers convention' and it would interest them to attend the one convention themed on their efforts.

[Pulse]

Now that others have done all the hard work for me... :p


Thanks for the kudos (I'll take 'em anyway I can) :D

[autobreadticon]

thanks guy

who is custombot on ebay, the seller makes customs and lives in Melbourne?

Is this you LCZ?

[iceburn]

bread..the one selling the customs on ebay is goro.
lcz does customs too here in Melbourne, so does turtleboy...

[roller]

Since i own Power-master Meanstreak

does that mean im the best ever?

[Borgeman]

Since i own Power-master Meanstreak

does that mean im the best ever?


theres a chance you might be :)

George

[roller]

fellows is there a g2 actiomaster breakdown exclusive?

[dirge]

Yes, was produced for one of the BotCons. 2003 IIRC.

[roller]

thanks dirge

On this website, how long does it take for someone to receive a pm? it doesn't seem to be instantaneous, or are the people i pm just really slow typers?


Was it ever explained why Breakdown became an actionmaster long after the actionmaster process was abandoned?

[dirge]

Was it ever explained why Breakdown became an actionmaster long after the actionmaster process was abandoned?

Not sure. griffin is the only person I'm aware of that possesses this toy. griff?

[autobreadticon]

can any1 give me a little more info on mini energon optimus prime?, thanks

[iceburn]

mini energon optimus prime??

[Pulse]

You mean this one?

http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/25/r_stdconvoy005.jpg

http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/25/r_stdconvoy041.jpg

[autobreadticon]

i lost the link:( , but it looks like a japanese blind package, with a white helicopter and red fire engine on the box as one of the random figures

not sure'if it is from the energon series but the ebay auction said 'energon mini optimus prime'

[griffin]

fellows is there a g2 actiomaster breakdown exclusive?

BotCon 2004 had it, but it was not authorised or produced by Hasbro, like every other BotCon/Official Con toy. As such, it is not considered a legit Transformers product, but a custom job, kinda like the WST Dinobots.


On this website, how long does it take for someone to receive a pm? it doesn't seem to be instantaneous, or are the people i pm just really slow typers?
Was it ever explained why Breakdown became an actionmaster long after the actionmaster process was abandoned?

People can be slow to respond, especially if they only stop by once a day, or don't have time to reply straight away. The private messages are pretty instant though, like a message posting.

The AM Breakdown did not have any story written up for it, and it's biocard was pretty much the same as its Gen1 biocard, with one added sentence to say that he didn't mind not being able to combine with the other STunticons anymore.
If you are trying to work out where it fits into the TFs universe, Breakdown probably became an Actionmaster when everyone else became Actionmasters. Just because it was released in 2004, doesn't mean it can't be from a series that was released around 1990.

[iceburn]

You mean this one?

http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/25/r_stdconvoy041.jpg

STL and the others call it Fatimus Prime

[autobreadticon]

more information please :) just to get me started

[kup]

STL and the others call it Fatimus Prime

I wonder why? :p

[dirge]

That name was applied to Energon Prime by fans before either toy hit the stores!

[autobreadticon]

from the image it doesnt seem the figure ishould be classified as a mini transformer.

[STL]

from the image it doesnt seem the figure ishould be classified as a mini transformer.

Maybe he's just big cos he ate a lot of mini-cons?

[Gutsman Heavy]

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/3/3d/McEnergon-prime.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/d/d4/Optimusprime_cybertron_burgerking.jpg
all I know of that could be mini energon prime

[autobreadticon]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320251998582

This is the auction that sparked my interest

[Pipesqueak]

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me whether the missiles from an original G1 Ultra Magnus will fit in the launchers of the Hasbro commemorative reissue version, which I believe comes with the silly oversized missiles?

Also, do the two robot heads on the reissue have painted faces? (ie blue mouth plate on the white prime and silver face for the larger robot?

Thanks

[Gutsman Heavy]

the reissue has a silver face, blue face plate. G1 missles will fit since the reissue has no retooling of the launchers. I want short missles :(

[Pipesqueak]

Thanks Gutsman :)

[turtle boy]

the G1 missiles and launchers will NOT fit. i just tried my self. it will not work.

[Gutsman Heavy]

holy crap? really?

damn....

[roller]

Gutsman did you actually try or did you just assume that theyd fit?

[Gutsman Heavy]

Gutsman did you actually try or did you just assume that theyd fit?

assumed, I wouldn't have guessed they retooled the launchers

[Robzy]

Yeah, unfortunately they're totally different launchers! Kinda like the seekers' launchers! :(

I think most of the stuff is different in size... even my original Bluestreak gun won't fit in the Hasbro re-issue's fist! (So I have to use the damn black one! :mad:)

[Pipesqueak]

OK, so what about the G1 launchers themselves? Will they fit into a reissue Ultra Magnus in both modes?

[griffin]

Coincedentally, this is being talked about on the ATT newsgroup.



It doesn't work that way on a number of reissues.
The Hasbro reissues that had fireing missiles got retools on both the
launcher and missile shaft:
Prime, Magnus, Jazz/Stepper the original missiles had a round shaft allowing
the missile to be loaded in any orientation, as do Takara reissues from
before the US reissues. The Hasbro reissues have half of the shaft
circular, and the other half T shaped, so the missile onlt fit one way. This
change was kept for later Takara reissues (TFC Jazz 2nd release and Encore,
TFC Stepper, TFC and Encore Prime)
The Hasbro reissue Seekers's launchers and shafts have a larger diameter.
Later Takara reissues (TFC Screamer, Sunstorm, Encore jets) keep the
retooled launchers with an added insert allowing the original missiles with
the shorter diameter to be used.
PM Prime's missile anf launcher have a - shaped shaft and launcher hole
instead of Godbomber's O shaped shaft.

[autobreadticon]

how many versions of deluxe primes are Hasbro releasing?

[griffin]

What series?

[autobreadticon]

sorry, for the animated series

[griffin]

Optimus, so far known, will be released as an Activator, Bumper Battler, Deluxe, 2-pack (Deluxe size), Voyager, Super, and Roleplay Blaster. I think the Deluxe one is the only Cybertron mode version, all the rest are Earth mode.

[excelonzero]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320251998582

This is the auction that sparked my interest

OH Kabaya Superlink Convoy (aka Energon Prime)

Assuming the auction is correct this is a complete Grand Convoy/Prime

WARNING The limbs come a separate box. There is no trailer for the Grand force units.The wheels on convoy do not move

I have this. So I know this isn't blind packed. You need two boxes:
(It looks like both are listed in the auction)
1) Grand Convoy
2) Limb pack: Fire 1, Gyro 2,Digger 3, Submarine 4

Optional Box.
3) Galvatron

The toy pulls apart to transform... see these photos:
http://au.geocities.com/hedrax173/otca/slconvoy.jpg

a) Both boxes: Convoy in Robot mode.
b) Convoy with Arm removed (part of transformation)
c) Grand Convoy: super mode
d) Partial Transform to truck mode
e) Truck mode

I'd still prefer to have a full sized Grand Convoy....

[autobreadticon]

thank you excelonzero , hay what is a good price to pay for the set these days?

[sanbot]

Was watching Transformers cartoon the other night, the episode where they discover Skyfire in the ice and it occured to me that it looks exactly the same as Jetfire. Some questions:

-Are they the same thing?
-Why is Skyfire sometimes really big and then sometimes the same size as the other autobots?
-I know how Skyfire and Starscream got seperated but how did Starscream turn from a scientist and a friend of Skyfire to such a megalomaniac?

[sifun]

What happened to God Ginrai in the Victory series?
Why has starsaber replaced him?

[Kyle]

Spoiler:

God Ginrai became Victory Leo in the Victory Series...

[roller]

yeah Skyfire and Jetfire are the same guy-im not sure why they changed the name, but in the series bibal they said dont use his character too much

Skyfire was always depicted as being larger then the other tfs at the time

Starscream was probably disenfranchised with Cybetronian society and lashed out, or he could just be a really sadistic pscho with a love of violence

[sanbot]

Skyfire was always depicted as being larger then the other tfs at the time



His size had nothing to do with his importance did it? He's such a pansy, I remember he gets one little shot and he's down for the count already pfft.

[sifun]

but as in, why is starsaber the supreme commander instead of God Ginrai? why was he replaced by starsaber in the first place?

[Demonac]

Sifun: coz they had a new toy to sell!
Shazam: Yea, Skyfire = Jetfire. Even though Bandai licenced the toy model out, they didn't do the same for the animation model. So Sunbow had to redraw it to avoid any legal entanglements. As to the sizing issue... it's G1, crappy scaling was par for the course :P

[roller]

which episode is Skyfire the same size as everyone else? I remember him always being larger

[Robzy]

Jetfire/Skyfire was originally intended to look more like his toy.

Here's Jetfire's original concept art...
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/sunglikeahorse/Jetfire1.jpg

I think they changed his name when they had to change the design.

And Jetfire's original design (as seen in the TV toy ad)...

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/sunglikeahorse/Jetfire2.jpg

[autobreadticon]

bad question :p

how much to deluxes normally retail for major retailers?

How much does TK normaly sell deluxe transformers for?
the new animated toys seem really overpriced

[Paulbot]

Toy Kingdom had $27.99 Animated deluxes next to Movie deluxes for $26.99, so yes they were expensive. Big W is usually the cheapest for deluxes (about $24) and they usually range from $24 to $27 in other stores but most of us wait until they have a 20% off sale and you can get a deluxe toy for just under $20

[roller]

heh i remember i time when deluxes mean $15 ish

[Pulse]

heh i remember i time when deluxes mean $15 ish

Quoting Homer "You're living in the past, Marge! Quit living in the past!"

:p

[sanbot]

Well maybe not exactly the same size as the rest, but one moment he'll be massive so that the other autobots can sit inside him and then the next minute he's only a bit bigger then the other autobots.

I guess, its kinda like the situation with Megatron when he transforms into a gun.

[autobreadticon]

What is TK regularly cycle or usual promotions on sales?
Cause i want to get some figures ASAP on sale :D
i dont think i ever seen deluxes on sales @ TK

[roller]

ok which one of you put smack in Breads bread again? :p

[TheDirtyDigger]

Well maybe not exactly the same size as the rest, but one moment he'll be massive so that the other autobots can sit inside him and then the next minute he's only a bit bigger then the other autobots.

I guess, its kinda like the situation with Megatron when he transforms into a gun.

'Mass displacement' explains it all.
There's no Wiki entry on it atm but someone should sure make one.

[roller]

which ep? Ive always seen Skyfire as a big big big bot compared to the others

[Pulse]

'Mass displacement' explains it all.
There's no Wiki entry on it atm but someone should sure make one.

This wikia entry might explain it. (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Size_changing)

[Paulbot]

What is TK regularly cycle or usual promotions on sales?
Cause i want to get some figures ASAP on sale :D
i dont think i ever seen deluxes on sales @ TK

I don't recall ever seeing Deluxes on sale at Toy Kingdom either. They never do 20% off toy sales. It might pay to shop around since STL found them for $25 at one Toy Kingdom whereas I found them for $28 at another Toy Kingdom store.

[sanbot]

This wikia entry might explain it. (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Size_changing)

Very useful! Thanks.

I found this reference quite amusing. It almost sounds like a little kid trying to explain something.

“Where does Optimus Prime’s trailer go when he transforms?” The answer? Subspace.

Roller, I'm not sure which episode, it might have been the episode where they are battling on this pyramid. I'll have to check it out again.

On another note, anybody remember that episode where Megatron takes Gear's chip to power the Solar Needle that harnesses the suns power? Gear's is such a smart ass in that one, even though he's supposed to be more friendly, he still comes up with the funniest lines. Like when Megatron calls for him and he said in a really friendly and polite way, "How can I help you, Megatron, heh heh, you rotten hunk of scrap." I thought that was the best line I have ever heard! :D

[roller]

ever notice how Gears, Ratchet and Scavenger all have similiar voices? Its a conspiracy

[dirge]

No, it's Michael Bell.

[Pulse]

Very useful! Thanks.


No problems Mate!

I thought every TF person knew about TF Wikia (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page). It's comedic element puts it miles ahead of Wikipedia's TF content :D.

[autobreadticon]

Hay can sum1 if Arcee transformed into vehicle mode in the animated series, and which episode it was.

[Pulse]

Hay can sum1 if Arcee transformed into vehicle mode in the animated series, and which episode it was.

I think you left a word out - maybe the word was remember? - but we only saw Arcee in bot mode in Episode 7 - The Thrill of the Hunt.

[roller]

jiargifnfgds 's can you tell me about Gamete? the little toy who came with Magnificus, why is he helping a decepticon?

ta

[Pulse]

jiargifnfgds 's can you tell me about Gamete? the little toy who came with Magnificus, why is he helping a decepticon?

ta

I can't seem to find very much info on this q at all.

According to this page (http://www.microforever.com/2005Gamede.htm), the only thing I can deduct is that Magnificus was an outcast Destron who happened to team up with a humanoid alien named Ga'mede.

Two evil individuals working together for the common goal - It makes perfect sense! :D

[roller]

thanks pulse, i want the toy now, Gamete looks so evil!

Anyone know if Tfs are sold in Afghanistan? or Morroco?

[Autocon]

anyone tell me what series will come after animated?
is there anything planned

[Paulbot]

The second movie line will come next

[Autocon]

oops must of hit wrong button :P

[Autocon]

and after that?? :p

thinking about where tf can go for a new series

[roller]

When animated is released in shops, the initial price will of course be larger then when the line is about to die


so, what do you think the price of a deluxe or the leader 2 pack will cost when its finally release in AUst?


The 2 pack is about $50 in Malaysia, dya think thats roughly what it will be like here?

[Kyle]

They are already in Australia... :p

[roller]

anyone got pics of the Premium jap Optimus ma21 in its box?

same with Henkei Tankor/Octane in box

[Pulse]

When animated is released in shops, the initial price will of course be larger then when the line is about to die


so, what do you think the price of a deluxe or the leader 2 pack will cost when its finally release in AUst?


The 2 pack is about $50 in Malaysia, dya think thats roughly what it will be like here?

I saw Wave 1 deluxes for $24.99 & Bulkhead/Screamer/Prime & Megs 2-pack for $44.99 today...

[Kyle]

When animated is released in shops, the initial price will of course be larger then when the line is about to die


so, what do you think the price of a deluxe or the leader 2 pack will cost when its finally release in AUst?


The 2 pack is about $50 in Malaysia, dya think thats roughly what it will be like here?


They are already in Australia... :p

Sorry roller, didn't realise you're physically in Malaysia... :p

[roller]

anyone know where i can get a pic of the jap premium optimus ma21?

[Gutsman Heavy]

Music label Soundwave, do you need to pull his hands off to transform him?

[STL]

Music label Soundwave, do you need to pull his hands off to transform him?
IIRC, no. I think they fold in nicely underneath.

[Paulbot]

They fold under, but I think some of the optional hands might not fit as nicely. I haven't tried them all.

[autobreadticon]

this is lame to admit, but i just realize some of the movie toys are new toy molds, can you guys please list them for me?

Does anyone who any good transformer hardcover books that have multiple comics combined into one, similar to what you always see in Dirty's images when he photographs his toy?

Is the new robot heroes considered to be wave one universe toys, coming with the deluxes prowl, tankor coming out soon?

[Paulbot]

this is lame to admit, but i just realize some of the movie toys are new toy molds, can you guys please list them for me?

The Ultras are repaints from Cybertron series. The Scouts are repaints from Energon and Cybertron. The Wal-Mart deluxes (Big Daddy, Jolt etc) are repaints. Everything else released so far is new.


Does anyone who any good transformer hardcover books that have multiple comics combined into one, similar to what you always see in Dirty's images when he photographs his toy?

Dreamwave's first series was reprinted in Hardcover. IDW have a big hardcover with their first three series. All of the Marvel comics were reprinted in Hardcover books. There is big hardcover reprinting all the Devil Due GIJoe vs Transformers comics. There are more softcover collections.


Is the new robot heroes considered to be wave one universe toys, coming with the deluxes prowl, tankor coming out soon?

Yes.

[roller]

Hey notnerds

is there some site that has the Transfohmar mosaics?

whenver i type it into Google it just has other sites that might have the older ones.


Everywhere i go, "Feelin Yellow' is everywhere!

[Pulse]

Hey notnerds

is there some site that has the Transfohmar mosaics?

whenver i type it into Google it just has other sites that might have the older ones.


Everywhere i go, "Feelin Yellow' is everywhere!

Have you tried these 2?

www.transformers-mosaic.deviantart.com/

forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2139

[roller]

thanks Pulse

Is there any fan in the world who owns every tf, variants included, up to the Cybertron series?

[Pulse]

Maybe DJ Soundwave (aka Eric)?

www.youtube.com/user/Actionfigurexpert

[GoktimusPrime]

Harold Tietjens, Doug Dlin, Ben Yee... ;)

[dirge]

Doug Dlin has a relatively modest TF collection.

Harold's is insane. He collects doubles so he can display both modes. Triples of combiners. Which means he has.... six... of each G2 Constructicon. And triples of stuff like the Micromaster gestalt teams (originals!).

I'll never forgot visiting Harold's collection - an entire double bedroom full of display cases. He's since moved (from Texas to Iowa), but that room was like a one man museum!

[roller]

does that include all South American g1 as well?

[dirge]

Harold? No.

[roller]

tietjans or tightguns looks crazy in his first book

"Im gonna run you down with ma truck!"

Did tailgate ever appear in the g1 cartoon?

[Paulbot]

Did tailgate ever appear in the g1 cartoon?

Yes, but Hubcap didn't.

[GoktimusPrime]

Don't forget AxadayZero's collection - that dude built a small building (roughly the size of a large shed) in his backyard for the sole purpose of housing his TF collection. :)

[roller]

i was in the comic shop today and they had "Transformers sequel comics"

Are these comic sequels to TF movie 2?

[Kyle]

i was in the comic shop today and they had "Transformers sequel comics"

Are these comic sequels to TF movie 2?

I believe these are set between the 2 movies.

[roller]

oh stupid me

i meant to type "Prequel comics"

im pretty sure they are not the prequel comics from last year/movie 1

[Paulbot]

There is a new prequel comic book set before the first movie which I think was originally a Target US exclusive. It focuses mainly on the Decepticons coming to Earth and IMO is better than the prequel comic from last year.

There is also a set of prequel stories coming soon that were originally published in the new UK Transformers comic with each story focusing on a separate character.

[roller]

thanks paul, can you give me legs a rub? i walked alot today :D

[loophole]

I got a question which do you think is better to own on DVD for G1 Transformers the Rhino version or the Madman version? i've already got the Rhino versions thanks to Griffin from a few years back, but have recently found out that some of the Rhino stuff is incomplete if this is true do you think its worth replacing them with the Madman releases?

[dirge]

I didn't bother. I'm happy enough with the Rhino version that I don't want to go spend all the money again. Which means more money for toys (:

[roller]

the madman versions have more extras i think in beast wars they do

[jaydisc]

anyone know where i can get a pic of the jap premium optimus ma21?

I now realize why you want this. it's the exact same box as the Leaders we get here except it has the silver "Premium Series" tagline at the top.

ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51z1IWxJBKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[TheDirtyDigger]

Now we all know the green guy here is named Acid Storm and there will be a camo version designed by Archer in the next wave of Universe/Classics, even though Archer's is a dull 'realistic' paintjob compared to how he originally appeared in his flouro sexiness.

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/632/rainmakersom6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

1st Question) Does anyone know the names of the other two here or could make up decent names for them if there is nothing officially canonical?

2nd Question) Do you think if I begged Stencilator long and hard enough he would custom up these babies for me?

[Paulbot]

I thought the yellow one was Sunstorm?

For the blue/grey one I like the name Hailstorm (Sunstorm, Acid Storm, Hailstorm)

[roller]

the yellah one aint sunstorm, he appeared in MTMTE part 1

The other guy never had a name.

But das green one is Acidstorm


Send stencil some beer and he wiill do it, he will do anything!

[TheDirtyDigger]

I don't believe it is Sunstorm as he looks like.....




thishttp://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5631/sunstormcartoonpl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Much more orange.

[dirge]

Knowing Hasbro the yellow one will likely end up being called Scattorstorm :eek:

[Gutsman Heavy]

ON the TF Wiki the are lots of references to Skywarp pushing people down stairs, where does this originate from?

[Pulse]

He has low self esteem so he pushes around other 'cons to feel better about himself? ;)

[Paulbot]

ON the TF Wiki the are lots of references to Skywarp pushing people down stairs, where does this originate from?

TF Chatroom injokes... here's some explanation (http://members.fortunecity.com/msipher/transform/painted/hoc/skywarpking/skywarpking.html).

[Paulbot]

I don't believe it is Sunstorm as he looks like..... Much more orange.

In that case I propose the three Rainmakers are

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/632/rainmakersom6.jpg

Acid Storm, Hailstorm, and Firestorm

They are related to Sunstorm and Thunderstorm (who maybe changed his name to Thundercracker when he became an elite Seeker?) and of course their descendant Mangostorm (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=1005) :D

Old school G1 Kitbasher and trivia man Zobovor suggests Limelight (http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_limelight_repaint.html), Blue Moon (http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_blue_moon_repaint.html), and Goldwing (http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_goldwing_repaint.html), complete with G1 style tech specs.

Ah links and images :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Firestorm is taken by DC Comics... maybe they could go with Sparkstorm (remembering that G1.5 Spark is also known as Pyro, which I assume Hasbro wouldn't be able to use as a TF name due to the X-Men character of the same name... although it didn't stop them in 1993 *shrug*)

Other suggestions:
Pyrostorm
Flamestorm
Blazestorm
Flarestorm
Ted

[roller]

but anyway the 3 jets, only 1 has an official name

[liegeprime]

Firecracker :D

[TheDirtyDigger]

Scattorstorm actually sounds ok. :)As does Pyrostorm and Hailstorm.

Paulbot had a suggestion for the yellow one he told me but I think it's maybe not appropriate here...:o

[roller]

Ladettes

i have a dilemma

The original tf movie soundtrack, does it just have the songs by the singers featured in the movie? eg: Weird Al, spectre general?

Or does it have the musical only music ? Eg: the musical bits heard when the decepticons are pounding the city and Megatron yells "Their defences are broken let the slaughter begin"

OR

Does it have both?

[Paulbot]

Both

[Firecracker]

Firecracker :D

I like that idea... :p

[GoktimusPrime]

I like how you're like the only Transfan I've seen named after a G2 Gobot. :)

[Gutsman Heavy]

bar the occasional paint app difference (and Hot Shots light) is there any benefit in getting the Micron Legend figures over Armada. Any cool tech spec cards or somthin?

[Krayt]

The pakaging is often nicer.... even down to Basics are normally found in boxes, and if like the armada minicons they are on cards, they are not glued, only stuck so you don't damage your packaging.

Everyone comes with a Tech card.... I have a nice stack formed over the years....

Some lines have bigger differences. MP Optimus had his Smokestacks cut down for the Hasbro release, due to safety issues. They are the same reason the TRU release of G1 figures had bigger, bulkier missiles on the figures. Taking a step down from MP, Binaltech figures had dicast parts, while the Alternators were lacking and therefore fantastic plastic!

But to support getting more released here, I usually stick with the normal Australian release.... only getting a japanese figure if it is completely different in some way.... eg Classics Megatron... and even then, I've got both.

*edit*

Whoops... i started writing, and got carried away.... didn't remember you asked about a specific line :-P

[dirge]

Micron Densetsu Hot Rod uses a far more sedate yellow than the awful bright yellow of Hot Shot.

[Gutsman Heavy]

so do ML have tech spec cards?

[STL]

so do ML have tech spec cards?

Yeap. All the Japanese lines do. One of the reasons I'm trying to complete Galaxy Force is b/c of them. :D

The ML cards are really nice. The figures though aren't as desirable imo but if u want the premium version definitely get the Japenese stuff. Hasbro's only line that came w/ separate cards was Energon but they featured different art to the Superlink ones. Also the Energon scouts did not come w/ cards. however, you'll find that the Superlink ones did so that's a major point of difference.



Whoops... i started writing, and got carried away.... didn't remember you asked about a specific line :-P

U know u wanna keep going. :p

[roller]

i have the Premium Movie MA21 Optimus

was $130 a good price?

Does the electronic sound it makes, when you push the chest button down, a different sound from the US version?

Is the blade colour movie accurate????

I dont like the head too much

[griffin]

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFMLPOP&lang=us

[roller]

thanks Griffin

But, the electronic noise is different from the Hasbro version right?

[jaydisc]

i have the Premium Movie MA21 Optimus

was $130 a good price?

Does the electronic sound it makes, when you push the chest button down, a different sound from the US version?

Is the blade colour movie accurate????

I dont like the head too much

I paid A$110.55 from F2F by ordering a pair with LCZ. The page Griffin sent you is for the Hasbro Premium version, not the Takara MA21 version, so I don't think that's an appropriate comparative price. Note that the packaging between the two is the same. The difference is, as per usual, chrome highlights.

The chest button sounds on Takara MA21 and Hasbro Premium version are the same, which is different to the original Hasbro Leader Prime. The Premium/MA21 sound is the traditional G1 cartoon transforming sound.

I would consider the shape and color of the blade to be movie accurate, although from a toy perspective, I find it to be a pain in the ass that gets in the way of transformation and makes emulating the movie difficult (retracting the hand to expose the blade)

[griffin]

Ah yes, sorry about that. I remembered seeing it when last browsing RK and mistakenly though it was the JP one. Just ignore me in future. :p

[STL]

Just ignore me in future. :p

How do u know we already don't? :p

[Pulse]

How do u know we already don't? :p

I think you may have joined me in the bad books... :D

[roller]

Lo crons

I wish to know the names of the Cybetron (?) moulds that were used in

"Theft of the Golden disc"

I think some of them were reused in the movie line? IF so

which ones? I might want to repaint them into "Theft" characters one day:)

[GoktimusPrime]

Maximal Security Force
With the exception of Tigatron, none of the Maximal Security Force Maximals were based on toys, hence I'm referring to them as "hypothetical" repaints.
http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/2/22/Maximalcommandsecurityforce.jpg
L-R:
+ Stopgap: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ head resembling Machine Wars Skywarp/Thundercracker.
+ Nitrostreak (Unit 1): hypothetical repaint of Clocker
+ Shatterpoint: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ Energon Shockblast-like head.
+ Getout: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head
+ Switchblade: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles Armada Cyclonus)
+ Overshoot: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ the same head as Stopgap.
+ 9K: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head
+ Tigatron (Unit 2): repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles Tigatron)
+ High Beam: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles G2 High Beam)
Not pictured: Cheetor - same mould as Tigatron, former cadet

Megatron: repaint of Cybertron Defence Red Alert with a new head.

Scorponok: Hypothetical repaint of Energon Scorponok with a new head.

Buzzbomb: Hypothetical repaint of Cybertron Buzzsaw

[roller]

thanks Gok

So anyone know the movie line repaints names? Yeah im lazy

[STL]

Cybertron Downshift = Big Daddy
Cybertron Thundercracker/Skywarp = Divebomb
Cybertron Crosswise = Jolt
Cybertron Landmine = Grindcore

Cybertron Mudflap = Mudflap
Armada/Powerlinx Red Alert = Inferno

Cybertron Jetfire = Jetstorm
Cybertron Wing Saber = Wingblade

[Gutsman Heavy]

Maximal Security Force
With the exception of Tigatron, none of the Maximal Security Force Maximals were based on toys, hence I'm referring to them as "hypothetical" repaints.
http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/2/22/Maximalcommandsecurityforce.jpg
L-R:
+ Stopgap: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ head resembling Machine Wars Skywarp/Thundercracker.
+ Nitrostreak (Unit 1): hypothetical repaint of Clocker
+ Shatterpoint: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ Energon Shockblast-like head.
+ Getout: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head
+ Switchblade: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles Armada Cyclonus)
+ Overshoot: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ the same head as Stopgap.
+ 9K: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head
+ Tigatron (Unit 2): repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles Tigatron)
+ High Beam: hypothetical repaint of Clocker w/ different head (resembles G2 High Beam)
Not pictured: Cheetor - same mould as Tigatron, former cadet

Megatron: repaint of Cybertron Defence Red Alert with a new head.

Scorponok: Hypothetical repaint of Energon Scorponok with a new and head.

Buzzbomb: Hypothetical repaint of Cybertron Buzzsaw

I'll add that in Theft of the Golden Disk, Scorpy is a re-painted Cyb Shortround, according to the TF wiki.

[GoktimusPrime]

So anyone know the movie line repaints names? Yeah im lazy
You shouldn't ask questions for answers that you could easily Google for! Gggrrr! ;)

[kup]

You shouldn't ask questions for answers that you could easily Google for! Gggrrr! ;)

Actually his question isn't that bad. Its well above the other guy's style of serial questions and he is not creating a thread for each one.

[n2o]

hope this is the right section to post

i'm having some difficulties in transforming my MP Megatron...

in this pic, there is evident lateral distance between megs head and the connecting clip
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4378/p7030220qy2.th.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7030220qy2.jpg)

in these two pics, i'm having difficulty making the parts of the arms line up, i've tried clicking the elbow join to his forearm as low as possible but it still results in below

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7955/p7030221sw8.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7030221sw8.jpg)

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7653/p7030223du6.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7030223du6.jpg)

[dirge]

n2o (is that Dinitrogen oxide?), I find that my MP megs does that from time to time, although only because the sliding joints on his elbows are rather tight...

[STL]

Did Galaxy Force Dark Ligerjack come with a tech spec trading card? And if he did, is it different to the Galaxy Force Ligerjack one?

[griffin]

WHile on the topic of JP biocards, and since I'm such a noob on this board :p
Do the new BT toys (19+) not come with biocards, or I just can't find them (or didn't get them)?
I see some character bio bits on the back of the packaging, but would have liked to see the biocards continue with this series. It's not like they have stopped doing biocards completely, because the Henkei toys have them.
I just think it is rather odd that they may have dropped them on this line, but continued the BT numbers and packaging as if everything was still the same. (yes, I noticed that their fancy instructions booklet has been dropped as well, for a folded sheet of paper).

[kurdt_the_goat]

I didn't get a tech spec card with my BT20 either :(

[STL]

I didn't get a tech spec card with my BT20 either :(

:mad:

[Gutsman Heavy]

Is there a DVD set out there that has Micron Legend with eng subs? I want to see the show with finished animation and a coherent script!

my friend "Timothy Orrent" hasn't been able to help.

[GoktimusPrime]

I would have no idea - but good luck finding it. Micron Legend >>> Armada

[n2o]

i've only started looking at transformers again after my purchase of MP-04

and i'm interested in the number of different releases of transformers, in particular the "premium" lines such as masterpiece

can someone explain henkei ?
what other "premium/collector" lines are there and what are the differences between them ?

[Tober]

i've only started looking at transformers again after my purchase of MP-04

and i'm interested in the number of different releases of transformers, in particular the "premium" lines such as masterpiece

can someone explain henkei ?
what other "premium/collector" lines are there and what are the differences between them ?

If you're after a MP-5 Megatron to compliment MP-4 then maybe have a chat to Rampage in the 'For Sale' section - he currently has one for a reasonable price. Otherwise owning it can be VERY problematic.

'Binaltech' is the Japanese technical line that compliments Masterpiece. They are diecast metal (with one exception). The USA alternative is the 'Alternators' line which is essentially the same except they are plastic instead of metal. Releases within these lines vary. There is also 'Kiss Pla' which uses similar molds with minor variations.

Later this year the 'Alternity' line will commence in Japan taking over from Binaltech left off.

'Henkei' is the Japanese equivalent of Hasbro's 'Classics' and 'Universe Classics' lines. The construction is the same however the paint applications vary - sometimes mildly, sometimes almost completely.

[Bartrim]

Is there a DVD set out there that has Micron Legend with eng subs? I want to see the show with finished animation and a coherent script!

my friend "Timothy Orrent" hasn't been able to help.

Hey Guts, are you after Micron Legend or Superlink? If you want Superlink PM and I may be able to help you out.

[GoktimusPrime]

I only have two Henkeis - Astrotrain and Megatron, and my Classics Astrotrain and Megatron look like cheap Knock-Offs compared to them!! Mind you, I've intentionally selected Henkeis which are drastically improved to their Classics counterparts, as Tober has said, others are more mild in variation. But if you don't already own any Classics I would absolutely recommend getting Henkei instead.

[n2o]

thnks for that Tober, i've managed to grab MP-05 off another forum member already without a hitch

i'm glad i missed the binaltech release... otherwise i would be a poor poor man.
all that metal *drool*
i think i'll start a fresh with the Alternity line.

has anyone started to round up interest in a bulk buy of Alternity Convoy ? it's only 3 months away. If someone does, put me down for two, 1 silver & 1 red

[GoktimusPrime]

Don't forget that:

a/ The standard retail prices for Binaltech weren't that expensive. BTs retailed for 4980JPY (which is approx. $50) whereas Alternators initially sold here for $55 and later $45 (prices were later reduced to move stock after Alternators became shelf-warmers).
b/ They didn't come out in a single wave. Each Binaltech was released between a period of several months.
e.g.:
Sep 2003 = Smokescreen
Dec 2003 = Sideswipe
Mar 2004 = Bluestreak, Hound
Jul 2004 = Dead End
...etc.
This enabled us to collect them continuously as they came out without driving us broke because we usually had a few months between each release to save up for the next figure. :)

I agree that collecting Binaltech now would be a costly venture. But you wouldn't have been driven to the poor house if you'd collected Binaltech at the time of its release.

[Pulse]

How many missiles does G1 Overlord need?

What I mean is this Overlord (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-1988-GODMASTER-OVERLORD-D-307-TAKARA-Rare_W0QQitemZ320197881605QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4694Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247) has only 1 missile but when I look at this page (http://www.tfu.info/1988/Destron/Overlord/overlord.htm) I can't figure out where all 3 go?

I can see that one goes in his big gun but what about the other 2?

The reason I'm enquiring about this is because I'm kinda interested in him... :)

[Pulse]

I've been studying this page (http://www.tfu.info/1988/Destron/Overlord/overlord.htm) & this page (http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/810/Generation+1/Overlord.html) & when comparing them to this guy (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-1988-GODMASTER-OVERLORD-D-307-TAKARA-Rare_W0QQitemZ320197881605QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4694Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247), that Overlord seems to have everything. :)

He only seems to need one missile (his big gun), his small gun seems to be the cannon in his tank mode & all round he seems perfect...

[griffin]

A lot of the old Gen1 toys had more missiles spare than what you needed. It meant losing more stuff too... :(

[1orion2many]

:)From what I remember the other 2 missiles are only spares so it wouldn't be a problem with displaying him.;)

[Pulse]

Thanks for your help Guys :)

Now that I've paid for him, I can't wait til he actually arrives... (Trust me, he'll definitely be displayed in bot-mode :))

[1orion2many]

:eek:I'm glad I got mine a year or 2 ago, complete in box he cost around $270-$290 U.S but of course the Aussie dollar was worth less back then:rolleyes:. He is a very nice figure and you bought it off a very reliable seller in Fire-Masa.;)

[funkyaw]

He is a very nice figure and you bought it off a very reliable seller in Fire-Masa.;)

I bought my Star Saber from Fire-Masa too. He was a pleasure to deal with - quick to ship and provide tracking info.

[roller]

whats the name of that irish guy who does the commentary on the 20th anniversary DVd?

[FFN]

I'm not sure which 20th Anniversary DVD you're talking about, but you might be referring to Chris McFeely (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Chris_McFeely), who also did the commentary of Metrodome's Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory and Zone.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah he is. McFeely also did the audio commentary for the 20th Anniversary TFTM DVD - released in Australia as "Transformers The Movie Special Edition."

http://www.madman.com.au/images/slicks/bigones/mma3870wp.jpg (http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?releaseId=7765&method=view)

[roller]

thankyou both

[Gutsman Heavy]

the Japanese releases of the Unicron trilogy on DVD came with figures (like the Microns with the ML DVDs, or Noisemaze drone in GF)

What volumes come with what figs? I can't find much on the TF wiki

[STL]

the Japanese releases of the Unicron trilogy on DVD came with figures (like the Microns with the ML DVDs, or Noisemaze drone in GF)

What volumes come with what figs? I can't find much on the TF wiki

Can't help you dude, I'd like to know myself a lot about the Japanese v Cybertron stuff but not enough ppl seem to know. :(

[GoktimusPrime]

Pulse thought that my X-Dimension Microns were knock-offs! Lawl! :D

In answer to Gutsman's question...

Micron Legend
DVD 1 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd1.htm)
DVD 2 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd2.htm)
DVD 3 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd3.htm)
DVD 4 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd4.htm)
DVD 5 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd5.htm)
DVD 6 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd6.htm)
DVD 7 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd7.htm)
DVD 8 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd8.htm)
DVD 9 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd9.htm)
DVD 10 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd10.htm)
DVD 11 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd11.htm)
DVD 12 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd12.htm)
DVD 13 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/armada/dvd13.htm)

Super Link
CD & DVD draw prize Kicker (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/energon/dvdkicker.htm)

Galaxy Force
DVD 1 (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/cybertron/dvd1_gc02.htm) (limited edition)

Source: Autobase Aichi (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/)

[Pulse]

Pulse thought that my X-Dimension Microns were knock-offs! Lawl! :D


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! :D

Well, They're packaging reminded me of those cheap Easter Show KO TFs... :o

Oh, & I hope my guys haven't cracked onto your femmes... ;)

[griffin]

This JP TFs archive site is one I've referred to for several years now, it has heaps of toy info.
http://megatronofcybertron.homestead.com/

The Micron Legend DVD (Minicon/Micron recolour) exclusives are in the 2003 section.
http://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/japanesemicronlegend.html

Superlink DVDs don't appear to have any exclusives.

Galaxy Force though, had toys with Vols 1,9,13.
http://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/japanesegalaxyforce.html

[GoktimusPrime]

Well, They're packaging reminded me of those cheap Easter Show KO TFs...
until you saw my Easter Show Galaxy Shuttle KO with the Lion Force Voltron head, hands and feet right? :p ;)


Oh, & I hope my guys haven't cracked onto your femmes...
Sunstreaker's in love with himself and Tankor's been hitting onto Marco/Gorilla. Prowl's been drifting all over my carpet. Jazz has sworn a life debt to my G1 Inferno after Beast Changer was doing something unsavoury to his leg (bad doggie!) but Inferno rescued him with a good hosing. Ah, the adventure never stops.

[Pulse]

It sounds like they've been having way too much fun... :D

I've got a feeling that they're gonna be dragged kicking & screaming back home where another member of my TF Family arrived today... ;)

[roller]

i recently received G1 Flash

now i can transform him to robot mode

i cant figure out the hood section, how do you get the arms out???

i dont want to break it and so far every firm pull doesnt get the doors open or the front wheels to the side


Also, i wonder if there is a record for simultaneous around the world rainbows?

[autobreadticon]

Does classics sideswipe come with the accessory , the missle on his shoulder?

[Tommy K]

i have a question, where does one go if lets say they want to get 1 of optimus primals swords? or 1 of movie starscreams misslies?, bits and bobs mainly lol i need to fix up some of my givenformers

[dirge]

eBay.

I recommend TheRawHyde (http://stores.ebay.com.au/Bama-A-C-and-Collectibles_Transformers-Toys_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ12959726QQftidZ2QQtZkm ), an excellent eBay seller with lots of parts on offer, who is efficient and is happy to combine postage.

[kup]

i have a question, where does one go if lets say they want to get 1 of optimus primals swords? or 1 of movie starscreams misslies?, bits and bobs mainly lol i need to fix up some of my givenformers

The Rawhyde is indeed an excellent seller but you still need to be careful when buying incomplete Beast Wars figures as parts are very rare.

However there are many more complete and affordable BW figures out there than loose weapons.

[jaydisc]

I recommend TheRawHyde (http://stores.ebay.com.au/Bama-A-C-and-Collectibles_Transformers-Toys_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ12959726QQftidZ2QQtZkm )

I remember visiting TDD once, and referring to that seller, pronouncing his nick as Thera Whyde. TDD was most amused and corrected me.

[Pulse]

Does classics sideswipe come with the accessory , the missle on his shoulder?

From the pics we've seen so far, it seems as though he's got exactly the same accessories as his brother - so the answer would probably be "no"

[iceburn]

I remember visiting TDD once, and referring to that seller, pronouncing his nick as Thera Whyde. TDD was most amused and corrected me.

I would have read or pronounce it your way too...strange!

[Paulbot]

i recently received G1 Flash

now i can transform him to robot mode

i cant figure out the hood section, how do you get the arms out???

i dont want to break it and so far every firm pull doesnt get the doors open or the front wheels to the side


Where's iamtrunks, our No #1 Turbomaster fan? :)

I recall the arms just swing out but I've not played with my Flash in some time.

[GoktimusPrime]

Flash is the only Turbomaster I don't have! :(

[Tommy K]

thanx for the help but idont think i saw anything really there for my suiting, another question is where can i find a tf hat, shirt or jumper or whatever?

[GoktimusPrime]

Tees (http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?releaseTypeId=7&webChannelId=9&sortKey=3&productView=1&method=browse&pager.offset=40) (scroll down)
Hoodies and T-shirts (http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?releaseTypeId=7&webChannelId=9&sortKey=3&productView=1&method=browse&pager.offset=50)
T-shirts (http://www.madman.com.au/actions/catalogue.do?releaseTypeId=7&webChannelId=9&sortKey=3&productView=1&method=browse&pager.offset=60)
Jayjay's also stock TF shirts.

Madman will be one of the stallholders at Smash! (http://www.smash.org.au/stallholders/stallholders-list). :)

[roller]

My g1 wreckgar has the tyre thing on the side of the leg , its just a red rim and seems to have lost the 'rubber' anyway

he has a spare tyre, can the one on the leg be pulled off? it seems pretty firm