Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[Nevac]

You might want to check your avatar :p ;)

I'm a fan of cartoon accuracy and the seekers have the insignias upside down in robot mode. My avatar is from Divide and Conquer and his insignia position is the same as MP11 in that shot.

[Sky Shadow]

I'm a fan of cartoon accuracy and the seekers have the insignias upside down in robot mode. My avatar is from Divide and Conquer and his insignia position is the same as MP11 in that shot.

So you want his insignia upside down in robot mode as it was in the show, not right-side-up as it (generally) was on the the toys. Got it.

[DELTAprime]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRANSFORMERS-HI-FI-FRENZY-ROBOT-MICROS-CEPPI-RATTI-MOC-/380354818103?pt=Robot&hash=item588ee9f037&_uhb=1

whats up with these? KOs?

No idea, Google Translate was no help.

[Sky Shadow]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRANSFORMERS-HI-FI-FRENZY-ROBOT-MICROS-CEPPI-RATTI-MOC-/380354818103?pt=Robot&hash=item588ee9f037&_uhb=1

whats up with these? KOs?

Yes. The cassettes are widely knocked off. Generally, unless a G1 toy is from Takara, Hasbro, Joustra, Milton Bradley, Antex, Lynsa, El Greco, Iga, Rubiplas, Estrela or GiG, assume it's illegitimate.

See also: http://www.fredsworkshop.com/vdiacass.html

[Verno]

I'm remember a Transformer from (I'm guessing here) the early 90's but I can't remember who or what it is. It's a large black jet, that has an orange(?) tank that rolls out of its rear.

Am I delusional? Or does something like this actually exist?

[Sinnertwin]

I'm remember a Transformer from (I'm guessing here) the early 90's but I can't remember who or what it is. It's a large black jet, that has an orange(?) tank that rolls out of its rear.

Am I delusional? Or does something like this actually exist?

http://www2.unicron.com/1990-transformers/338-1990-g1/1749-gutcruncher-action-master-with-stratotronic-jet.html ??

[Trent]

Signed print by Floro Dery (http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/189205789/temple-of-the-sky-god-on-the-moon-titan?ref=sr_gallery_12&ga_ref=search_shop_redirect&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery). I like it but don't think I $213 like it. Maybe I should ask him how much for one without his signature on it :)

[SuspectimusPrime]

Signed print by Floro Dery (http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/189205789/temple-of-the-sky-god-on-the-moon-titan?ref=sr_gallery_12&ga_ref=search_shop_redirect&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery). I like it but don't think I $213 like it. Maybe I should ask him how much for one without his signature on it :)

This original design named Univorsum (http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/182792217/unvorsum-the-galactic-robot-signed-print?ref=related-4) looks pretty rad. Seems like TF Prime Gaia Unicron might have adopted the freakish one big arm concept.

http://img0.etsystatic.com/024/1/7163485/il_570xN.576868670_rp2q.jpg
via Etsy: http://img0.etsystatic.com/024/1/7163485/il_570xN.576868670_rp2q.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/217337-2/Gaia+Unicron+Robot+09.jpg
via TFW: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/217337-2/Gaia+Unicron+Robot+09.jpg

[Verno]

http://www2.unicron.com/1990-transformers/338-1990-g1/1749-gutcruncher-action-master-with-stratotronic-jet.html ??

That's it! Thank you muchly! :cool:

[Trent]

Just realised I posted it in the wrong thread :o Oh well.


This original design named Univorsum (http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/182792217/unvorsum-the-galactic-robot-signed-print?ref=related-4) looks pretty rad. Seems like TF Prime Gaia Unicron might have adopted the freakish one big arm concept.

http://img0.etsystatic.com/024/1/7163485/il_570xN.576868670_rp2q.jpg
via Etsy: http://img0.etsystatic.com/024/1/7163485/il_570xN.576868670_rp2q.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/217337-2/Gaia+Unicron+Robot+09.jpg
via TFW: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/217337-2/Gaia+Unicron+Robot+09.jpg

Yeah I like that one too but at $550, he can keep it. I'd pay that for the original though.

[Omega Metro]

What are people's thoughts on AOE Slug and Scorn 'filling in' as Cybertronian Dinobots to go with FOC Grimlock? Do you think they suit well?

[Mythirax]

What are people's thoughts on AOE Slug and Scorn 'filling in' as Cybertronian Dinobots to go with FOC Grimlock? Do you think they suit well?

I love the figures personally. But I won't be happy if Grimlock has a team of randoms with him. I just want the original 5 :(

[Zommael]

What are people's thoughts on AOE Slug and Scorn 'filling in' as Cybertronian Dinobots to go with FOC Grimlock? Do you think they suit well?

They'll eventually be serving as Dinobots (along with Strafe and Slash, and Slog and Snarl if they actually turn up) in my roughly* CHURG-based collection, but that's along with AOE Grimlock. I'm not sure how well they go with Generations Grimlock being as they're not in anything like the G1 Dinobots in colour or appearance (thank god, Hasbro grey everywhere ugh). I'm just happy to finally be getting a full set of Dinobots, after getting just one in Generations, three in Animated, one in Classics, two in Energon, and the Armada/Universe/RID/whatever ones being impossible to find at non-scalper prices.

*very roughly. It's got toys from BW, AEC, the movies, Animated, and Prime as well as CHURG.

[Sinnertwin]

What are people's thoughts on AOE Slug and Scorn 'filling in' as Cybertronian Dinobots to go with FOC Grimlock? Do you think they suit well?

No

[Omega Metro]

Fair enough. :) I just think they look more Cybertronian (like FOC Kickback) in style.

[Mythirax]

Fair enough. :) I just think they look more Cybertronian (like FOC Kickback) in style.

So more like a bug than a dinosaur :p ? I would of loved them to of had the style of the actual Dinobots in FoC. Oh boy, I wish we got the FoC Dinobots :( oh and Trypticon :D

[GoktimusPrime]

I cannot complete the last stage of transforming Age of Extinction Deluxe Crosshairs. Whenever I place the lower door panels into position, the rear side parts pop out and vice versa. I think it's the big rubber panels that's getting in the way, but I can't seem to find a way to make them fit. :( Instructions have been useless and I've watched video reviews which haven't helped either. It really doesn't help when every video reviewer is transforming the toy from car to robot, even though it's packaged in robot mode. This toy is so frustrating, it's making toys like Big Convoy, BT Grimlock and MP Megatron look good. :mad:

Could someone please advise me on how to transform this toy? :(

*bump* Help please.
Here's some pics detailing the trouble I've been having with AoE Crosshairs...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Age%20of%20Extinction/aoe_crosshairs_help_zpsa09403f8.jpg
Please help!

[Sinnertwin]

Fair enough. :) I just think they look more Cybertronian (like FOC Kickback) in style.

:)
Mixing different lines & aesthetics is a no-no for me & would wreak havoc upstairs :o.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Is it just me but does Bot Shots Cindersaur share the same colour scheme (purple with blue face) as G1 Cindersaur but have a beak and talons more reminiscent of Flamefeather?

[Golden Phoenix]

Is it just me but does Bot Shots Cindersaur share the same colour scheme (purple with blue face) as G1 Cindersaur but have a beak and talons more reminiscent of Flamefeather?

Maybe they are the long lost love child

[BigTransformerTrev]

Is it just me but does Bot Shots Cindersaur share the same colour scheme (purple with blue face) as G1 Cindersaur but have a beak and talons more reminiscent of Flamefeather?


Maybe they are the long lost love child

First: Ewww. Second: Lol!

Seems strange that they got the colour scheme right but then swapped his alt mode for one of his teammates animal forms. Then again I suppose they did the same for Snarl in Animated - looks just like Snarl in robot mode, but has Slags animal mode.

[Paulbot]

Aren't like half of Botshots existing Botshots with new colours? Maybe there is a Flamefeather one? (I don't know, I don't follow or pay close attention)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Aren't like half of Botshots existing Botshots with new colours? Maybe there is a Flamefeather one? (I don't know, I don't follow or pay close attention)

Na, there isnt, but I bet if someone from Hasbro reads your post we will see one soon ;)

I spose it is only the beaked head that is reminicent of Flamefeather, even the clawed hands on the beast mode are more Cindersaur - Flamefeather just has fingerless claws like BM Tankor

[davieanix]

Did we miss out on the Kreo Microchanger wave with Rodimus/Cyclonus?

[MayzaPrime]

Did we miss out on the Kreo Microchanger wave with Rodimus/Cyclonus?

Looks that way... :(

[Jaisun]

I'm doing a hefty collection cull, trying to keep a single 'definitive' of my favourite characters. After finding the upcoming Generations Cosmos and Swerve are the best so far, I went to pre order at BBTS, but they had since sold out. Do we have any word on the likelihood they'll be released locally? I know TFS has them for pre order, but I have some stuff in BBTS PoL and there's nothing else TFS has that I want for now.

[UltraMarginal]

I'm doing a hefty collection cull, trying to keep a single 'definitive' of my favourite characters. After finding the upcoming Generations Cosmos and Swerve are the best so far, I went to pre order at BBTS, but they had since sold out. Do we have any word on the likelihood they'll be released locally? I know TFS has them for pre order, but I have some stuff in BBTS PoL and there's nothing else TFS has that I want for now.

check out Amazon for "amazon global eligible"
I think they're on there

[M-bot]

I've always thought of Impactor's colours as primarily purple and yellow, but I've also seen him in a lot of images recently as purple and orange. Am I wrong? Is it meant to be more orange than yellow?

[Sky Shadow]

I've always thought of Impactor's colours as primarily purple and yellow, but I've also seen him in a lot of images recently as purple and orange. Am I wrong? Is it meant to be more orange than yellow?

You're right - purple and yellow was correct for a quarter of a century, but his Generations toy is purple and orange.

[i_amtrunks]

check out Amazon for "amazon global eligible"
I think they're on there

Got mine for about $28 shipped and they arrived yesterday.

[Bidoofdude]

What's a good place to find Generations 2010 Drift? I've looked at various places and he's usually in the $60+ range. Does anywhere have him for under $50? I realise he's quite sought-after.

[Tober]

What's a good place to find Generations 2010 Drift? I've looked at various places and he's usually in the $60+ range. Does anywhere have him for under $50? I realise he's quite sought-after.

I have a couple of spares in a box upstairs somewhere... If you can't find one online LMK and I'll sort it out. Otherwise you could post in the Bumblebee the Toy Scout section.

My Question: How tall are the G1 Predacons in bot mode compared to other bots? I gather bigger than car bots like Jazz but slightly smaller than seekers/leaders...

[griffin]

From my collection shelf, but with other 1986 toys though, so only combiners and the Movie cars. It might give a rough idea until someone else has a handy shot of them with Cars and Seekers.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/collections/griffinofoz/c01s4.jpg

[Tober]

Cool, thanks. :)

So in the G1 cartoon they would have been about as tall as Optimus and Megatron?

[Sky Shadow]

Cool, thanks. :)

So in the G1 cartoon they would have been about as tall as Optimus and Megatron?

Razorclaw is on the left, fourth row down: http://s14.postimg.org/e59g1a75d/27376326d1373361983_definitive_sunbow_scale_char.j pg

[Tober]

Excellent! Thanks a lot!

[Bidoofdude]

Does anyone have any comparison pics of Generations Metroplex with the new 24-inch Godzilla. Preferably fighting please. ;) I'm considering him as something for Metroplex to fight (for the novelty really).

[GoktimusPrime]

Going to SupaNova tomorrow... thinking about which single issue of IDW's TFs to bring along to get Chris Ryall or any other IDW staffer to sign. I don't have any of the TPBs, only individual issues -- so what would you guys recommend?

[Sky Shadow]

Going to SupaNova tomorrow... thinking about which single issue of IDW's TFs to bring along to get Chris Ryall or any other IDW staffer to sign.

Find one of the issues with Ryall as Chrischarger on the letters pages. Maybe Infiltration #0?

[GoktimusPrime]

^Good suggestion. Chris Ryall and Ted Adams were thrilled to see Infiltration #0! They were also genuinely impressed to meet someone who's been a fan of their TF comics from the very beginning (which surprised me). :o

I'm going in again tomorrow... any other suggestions for another issue I can bring in to get signed? ;)

[Sky Shadow]

^Good suggestion. Chris Ryall and Ted Adams were thrilled to see Infiltration #0! They were also genuinely impressed to meet someone who's been a fan of their TF comics from the very beginning (which surprised me). :o

That's great - yeah, I was thinking that Ryall might like that not just because of Chrischarger, but because it might be nostalgic for him in terms of when they first got the Transformers licence. If you have the 2007 movie prequel comics they'd probably like to sign that too, since I believe Ryall and Adams were both heavily involved. Or Reign of Starscream - I think Ryall wrote that one too.

[Gouki]

So how big is Robot Masters Victory Saber compared to Voyager Classics Prime?

[Golden Phoenix]

So how big is Robot Masters Victory Saber compared to Voyager Classics Prime?

RM Victory Saber ends up about Deluxe height. I don't have a shot of him with Prime, but I do have one of him with Prowl

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/jimmey-11/Transformers/07022010006.jpg

[Sky Shadow]

So how big is Robot Masters Victory Saber compared to Voyager Classics Prime?

Robotmasters Victory Saber is skinny but is basically wearing stilts, so he's tallish, but if you put him next to Voyager Prime they'll look like two different toylines - like a vintage Luke Skywalker standing next to a vintage He-Man. Also, it's a truly awful toy, with annoying rubbery bits instead of nice hard ABS plastic, and the downscaling eliminates the best gimmicky bits of Star Saber. I would avoid buying one unless you really, really want it.

[DELTAprime]

Robotmasters Victory Saber is skinny but is basically wearing stilts, so he's tallish, but if you put him next to Voyager Prime they'll look like two different toylines - like a vintage Luke Skywalker standing next to a vintage He-Man. Also, it's a truly awful toy, with annoying rubbery bits instead of nice hard ABS plastic, and the downscaling eliminates the best gimmicky bits of Star Saber. I would avoid buying one unless you really, really want it.

Thats good to know. I was considering RM Star Saber before the MP was announced. Glad I didn't waste my money.

[Gouki]

Robotmasters Victory Saber is skinny but is basically wearing stilts, so he's tallish, but if you put him next to Voyager Prime they'll look like two different toylines - like a vintage Luke Skywalker standing next to a vintage He-Man. Also, it's a truly awful toy, with annoying rubbery bits instead of nice hard ABS plastic, and the downscaling eliminates the best gimmicky bits of Star Saber. I would avoid buying one unless you really, really want it.

Mixed toylines don't bother me. I'm a repurposer. And I have to ask, your opinions on the plastic quality, you're not one of those chasing fans that go on about how current toy plastic sucks and feel like kos are you?

[Sky Shadow]

I have to ask, your opinions on the plastic quality, you're not one of those chasing fans that go on about how current toy plastic sucks and feel like kos are you?

"Chasing fans"? :confused: No, instead of solid ABS plastic, which is predominantly used for Transformers, it uses rubbery PVC for the sword, ears, shoulder guns, which gets floppy and bent out of shape, depending on temperature. It's like... is it Pirates of the Caribbean where a combatant has a bendy fencing sword against an opponent with a solid one?

[DELTAprime]

Anyone know if there was a red version of the FJ Cruiser Optimus Prime made? I'm going to get a FJ Cruiser Optimus but don't really like the yellow or white as they are not Prime colours.

[GoktimusPrime]

The original G1 Star Sabre toy's plastic is pretty poor quality IMO. I personally don't have too much of an issue w/ the quality of RM Star Sabre's plastic quality or rubber parts considering the relatively cheaper price of that toy. The rubber is soft, but not so soft that it would super-easily bend out of shape like say the rubber used on a lot of TF Prime and Age of Extinction toys. Perhaps Star Sabre has a legacy of being made from inferior materials. :o Let's hope MP Star Sabre bucks this trend. ;)

[kurdt_the_goat]

Anyone know if there was a red version of the FJ Cruiser Optimus Prime made? I'm going to get a FJ Cruiser Optimus but don't really like the yellow or white as they are not Prime colours.

Apart from the standard yellow and white, I think there were several colours including red, but they were all exclusive to Toyota dealerships in Japan:

http://i.imgur.com/XWkmCck.jpg

[griffin]

Anyone know if there was a red version of the FJ Cruiser Optimus Prime made? I'm going to get a FJ Cruiser Optimus but don't really like the yellow or white as they are not Prime colours.

If you are getting the Vol1 Generations 2014 book, or can look at someone else's, they show the 8 or 9 colour versions in there... I just can't recall, or easily access my copy at the moment.
If the FJ comes in red, I would imagine that there is a red version of the toy... as the limited edition versions of that toy were all colours done to match the corresponding car being purchased (so that the owner had a Transformer that turned into the exact car they just purchased).

[Bidoofdude]

Is the fan chosen figure (Alpha Trion, the Omnibots, etc.) going to be with the next Generations book volume, similar to the trainbot, or some other way?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Do people consider Jetblade from the TF2 toyline to be a Seeker? He shares the same body mould as Dirge, has the shoulder points and nipple turbines like other seekers and has been retooled into Skywarp and Thundercracker so he probably should be.

Just trying to figure out across the TF multiverse just how many Seekers I own - I've got over 30+ Starscreams but with all the others the number mut be at least double that :) I suppose I should count my Air Vehicon General since Starscream calls them seekers even though they don't look the part ;)

[Sky Shadow]

Just trying to figure out across the TF multiverse just how many Seekers I own

If you have ROTF Jetfire or Ransack, DOTM Air Raid or Shattered Glass Sideswipe, Blurr, Goldbug or Rodimus, they would all count too. :)

[griffin]

Is the fan chosen figure (Alpha Trion, the Omnibots, etc.) going to be with the next Generations book volume, similar to the trainbot, or some other way?

Yes, the voting list of 10 figures is for the next generations book, but I hope they do most of the rest somehow.

[Bidoofdude]

Yes, the voting list of 10 figures is for the next generations book, but I hope they do most of the rest somehow.

Hopefully Alpha Trion stays in front. I'll get the book if he's the figure. I would like to see the others, mainly the Omnibots and police Sunstreaker, for those that want them.

[BigTransformerTrev]

If you have ROTF Jetfire or Ransack, DOTM Air Raid

Didn't even think of them :D I didn't know that DOTM Air Raid is called a seeker and I have the bugger :p

[Sky Shadow]

Didn't even think of them :D I didn't know that DOTM Air Raid is called a seeker and I have the bugger :p

Well, the Japanese version was a Seeker, so I'm pretty sure that counts. :)

[Megatran]

I've stumbled across a non-English box version of Hasbro G2 Optimus Prime (G1 cab with the word Optimus on the black trailer). Can someone shed light on this non-English version?

The words on the front of the box sound European (Italian???):
Parlante! Con Luci E Veri Rumor!!
Missili Sparanti!

[Sinnertwin]

I've stumbled across a non-English box version of Hasbro G2 Optimus Prime (G1 cab with the word Optimus on the black trailer). Can someone shed light on this non-English version?

The words on the front of the box sound European (Italian???):
Parlante! Con Luci E Veri Rumor!!
Missili Sparanti!

Sounds like the version released in Italy by GiG.
Has it got Hasbro in white text in a blue box on the top right?, if it does, it most probably is.

[Megatran]

Sounds like the version released in Italy by GiG.
Has it got Hasbro in white text in a blue box on the top right?, if it does, it most probably is.

Yes, that's the one. Thanks. :)

[DELTAprime]

I'm after some weird Optimus's. (or is that Optimi).

I have the Gari Gari Kun cosplaying as Optimus.

I'm getting the FJ Cruiser, Captimus, Pen and Nano Block Optimus's

Any more odd ones out there I can't think of?

[CBratron]

I'm after some weird Optimus's. (or is that Optimi).

The 2007 Shoeformer?

[Mythirax]

I'm after some weird Optimus's. (or is that Optimi).

I have the Gari Gari Kun cosplaying as Optimus.

I'm getting the FJ Cruiser, Captimus, Pen and Nano Block Optimus's

Any more odd ones out there I can't think of?

Had a quick search for Optimus on Seibertron. Had a few random looking things come up:

Mighty Muggs #1 (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/mighty-muggs/optimus-prime/1744/1/)
Mighty Muggs #2 (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/mighty-muggs/optimus-prime-movie/3186/1/)
Mighty Muggs #3 (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/mighty-muggs/optimus-prime-sdcc-2009/3184/1/)

Mr. Potato Head Prime (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/mr-potato-head/optimus-prime/3285/1/)
Loyal Subjects (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/loyal-subjects/optimus-prime/3200/1/)
Sports Label Nike Prime (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/sports-label/optimus-prime-nike/1203/1/)
Eggbods (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/eggbods/eggtimus-prime/2461/1/)

Hopefully they help in someway :D

[Sky Shadow]

I'm after some weird Optimus's. (or is that Optimi).

I have the Gari Gari Kun cosplaying as Optimus.

I'm getting the FJ Cruiser, Captimus, Pen and Nano Block Optimus's

Any more odd ones out there I can't think of?

As well as the list (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=18583), one can never underestimate the weirdness of... the Optimus Prime Oral Care Station.

http://s21.postimg.org/p8ad99g5z/oral2.png

[SuspectimusPrime]

I'm after some weird Optimus's. (or is that Optimi).

I have the Gari Gari Kun cosplaying as Optimus.

I'm getting the FJ Cruiser, Captimus, Pen and Nano Block Optimus's

Any more odd ones out there I can't think of?

If you're after weird, you can't go past Reverse Convoy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reverse_Convoy).

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

So, in a non-spoilery way, what are peoples' thoughts on the Windblade character/series?

I haven't been following any of the comic series - hard to get 'em in Japan, and the Tassie State library usually gets them in which gives me some nice holiday reading - but I'm curious to see how the character is coming along.
The interviews I've read from Maighread Scott sounded like it could go really well or get bogged down in the 'female Autobot' angle at the expense of good writing/characterisation.

[Skullcruncher]

As well as the list (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=18583), one can never underestimate the weirdness of... the Optimus Prime Oral Care Station.


That's not weird - that's pure want! :D:D What could be better than optimus watching over your oral hygiene :D

[DELTAprime]

So, in a non-spoilery way, what are peoples' thoughts on the Windblade character/series?

I haven't been following any of the comic series - hard to get 'em in Japan, and the Tassie State library usually gets them in which gives me some nice holiday reading - but I'm curious to see how the character is coming along.
The interviews I've read from Maighread Scott sounded like it could go really well or get bogged down in the 'female Autobot' angle at the expense of good writing/characterisation.

I really like it so far. The whole Fembot thing and why she has never been seen before is handled in Windblade issue 1 really well over the course of only 1 page (I think it was 1, maybe 2).:rolleyes: I think she is a great addition so far to Transformers and makes a great change from the dude with a gun that 99% of Transformer are.

[GoktimusPrime]

Any idea what AoE Deluxe Stinger's gonna look like? :confused:

[Mythirax]

Any idea what AoE Deluxe Stinger's gonna look like? :confused:

Probably a Red version of wave 3 deluxe bumblebee? With of course a different head.

[Verno]

Disclosure: Not a question -- Just a fun story.

I'm currently in the USA. I wasn't able to be over here for BotCon unfortunately, but as the theme was rubbish, who really cares?

Anyway. I walked into a Comic and Collectibles shop in Anaheim called Phat Collectibles. I checked out their Action Figures section and it was nice to see a case and a half full of Transformers from all generations on display and for sale. There was a little tub of random action figure parts in the section, and riffling through, I found the chain gun, saw and maces for Fox Kids Rhinox. There was a Fox Kids Rhinox for sale in the cabinet, without the accessories, so I called the guy behind the desk over and told him to match them up and put the price up!

Verno -- International Beast Wars Completist!

[Bidoofdude]

Probably a Red version of wave 3 deluxe bumblebee? With of course a different head.

Doesn't Stinger have a different alt mode? They'll probably reshell the vehicle parts. W3 DLX BB doesn't look as bad as I'd first thought.

[Sinnertwin]

Probably a Red version of wave 3 deluxe bumblebee? With of course a different head.

Ahh, Cliffjumper returns

[GoktimusPrime]

Doesn't Stinger have a different alt mode? They'll probably reshell the vehicle parts.
Like that'd stop (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/32/Transformers_Prime_Legion_Mirage.jpg) HasTak (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/8/82/Lost_Age_AD-16_Dino.jpg). :p :rolleyes:

[davieanix]

I really wish Stinger was like a wave 1 fig, and then Bumblebee can be the retool for a change. Not enough Decepticons in the AoE line for my liking!

[Mythirax]

I really wish Stinger was like a wave 1 fig, and then Bumblebee can be the retool for a change. Not enough Decepticons in the AoE line for my liking!

Probably why I've enjoyed these toys so much :D

[GoktimusPrime]

Probably why I've enjoyed these toys so much :D
So who have your Autobots been fighting against? One thing I really loved about Beast Wars (and Machine Wars) was the nearly even split between goodies and baddies. I collected most of my early BW toys in versus sets, so each time I got a Maximal, there was also a Predacon for him to fight.

I've personally been using Decepticons from other lines to fight, just yesterday I had AoE Drift battling Battle In Space Cyclonus, but of course, that's completely "out of universe." And while I do enjoy playing out-of-universe campaigns from time to time, I do also like to play "in-universe", and this option is limited atm because I only have Galvatron for my AoE 'Bots to battle. :(

[kup]

Disclosure: Not a question -- Just a fun story.

I'm currently in the USA. I wasn't able to be over here for BotCon unfortunately, but as the theme was rubbish, who really cares?

Anyway. I walked into a Comic and Collectibles shop in Anaheim called Phat Collectibles. I checked out their Action Figures section and it was nice to see a case and a half full of Transformers from all generations on display and for sale. There was a little tub of random action figure parts in the section, and riffling through, I found the chain gun, saw and maces for Fox Kids Rhinox. There was a Fox Kids Rhinox for sale in the cabinet, without the accessories, so I called the guy behind the desk over and told him to match them up and put the price up!

Verno -- International Beast Wars Completist!

That's funny and very honest of you :)

[Tober]

Has there been any update of a Hasbro MP Sideswipe release since it was mentioned in that leaked/hacked list of upcoming Hasbro product a while ago? :confused:

[Bidoofdude]

Has there been any update of a Hasbro MP Sideswipe release since it was mentioned in that leaked/hacked list of upcoming Hasbro product a while ago? :confused:

It was announced at Botcon during the panel. Bluestreak will also be getting a Hasbro MP.

[Tober]

It was announced at Botcon during the panel. Bluestreak will also be getting a Hasbro MP.

Cool, thanks! :cool:

[GoktimusPrime]

If I were Hasbro, I'd release MP Bluestreak in his Diaclone colours.
I just hope they don't release him in that cheap "Hasblo Grey" colour that we saw with their reissue of the G1 toy. :/

[Mythirax]

So who have your Autobots been fighting against?

No one, I only Display and Transform them sometimes.

[DELTAprime]

I have one Transformer I've never opened. A Henkei Ghost Starscream. He's packed away somewhere and I would dig him out, open him, and give him pride of place on my Seeker shelf. But he's clear plastic and I know thats a disaster waiting to happen. So should I open or not?

[autobreadticon]

Any Marvel comic buffs on the board?

Anyone know of the comic issue or an image where Death's Head is the same height as a Transformers?

[Sky Shadow]

Any Marvel comic buffs on the board?

Anyone know of the comic issue or an image where Death's Head is the same height as a Transformers?

Every issue of Transformers he was that size, so #113-114, 117-118, 120, 133-134, 146-151, the beginning of Doctor Who Magazine #135, the S.W.O.R.D. limited series #1-5.

[CBratron]

I have one Transformer I've never opened. A Henkei Ghost Starscream. He's packed away somewhere and I would dig him out, open him, and give him pride of place on my Seeker shelf. But he's clear plastic and I know thats a disaster waiting to happen. So should I open or not?

Which disaster are you referring to? That he'll yellow? Or that clear plastic tends to crack where other plastic would form stress marks?

I'd get rid of him while I could. The risk will always be there and only gets worse with age.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, one of the wing mirrors of my clear BT Mirage snapped off a few months ago. :mad: But since finally getting Alternators Mirage, I'm just going to leave BT Mirage in robot mode (since Mirage almost always used his invisibility ability as a robot) -- the Alternator will see more transformation play. ;)

Much like Ghost Starscream, I couldn't sell BT Mirage even if I wanted to (I tried a few years ago, but had no bites :rolleyes:). MP Ghost Screamer was the single greatest MP shelfwarmer here, and I still come across this toy at conventions and fairs at below its original RRP. :o

[autobreadticon]

Every issue of Transformers he was that size, so #113-114, 117-118, 120, 133-134, 146-151, the beginning of Doctor Who Magazine #135, the S.W.O.R.D. limited series #1-5.

wow thank you!! Hopefully the Marvel Infinite series appear at retail real soon.

[Bidoofdude]

Yeah, one of the wing mirrors of my clear BT Mirage snapped off a few months ago. :mad: But since finally getting Alternators Mirage, I'm just going to leave BT Mirage in robot mode (since Mirage almost always used his invisibility ability as a robot) -- the Alternator will see more transformation play. ;)

Much like Ghost Starscream, I couldn't sell BT Mirage even if I wanted to (I tried a few years ago, but had no bites :rolleyes:). MP Ghost Screamer was the single greatest MP shelfwarmer here, and I still come across this toy at conventions and fairs at below its original RRP. :o

I would love a Henkei Ghost Starscream, but he goes for pretty high prices. Couldn't say I could afford him.

[DELTAprime]

I would love a Henkei Ghost Starscream, but he goes for pretty high prices. Couldn't say I could afford him.

I'd never sell him as he completes my Henkei Seeker collection. But yeah I'm so worried about opening him because of clear plastic figures ending up breaking like Gok's Mirage. Broken pieces are not fun.

[Trent]

MP Ghost Screamer was the single greatest MP shelfwarmer here, and I still come across this toy at conventions and fairs at below its original RRP. :o

Are you referring to the TRU Australia RRP for him? Because if so, I'm not surprised. That was a STUPIDLY high price for that MP.

[GoktimusPrime]

I was... but then I just realised that this discussion was about Henkei Ghost Starscream, not MP... oops. :p

[DELTAprime]

Well I opened my Henkei Ghost Starscream. Really nice use of the Classics Seeker mould. He was super nerve-racking to transform because of the super tight joints combined with the clear plastic. I'm happy I did it.

[Starscream77]

For anyone lucky to have a G1 Overlord could you please post a comparison pic for me next to some of the more common G1 toys?
I just want to get an idea of size

[speros]

has anyone ever seen one of these or know if its a fake G1?? I've only seen a cookie crisp Jazz and can't really find anything much details on an OP cookie crisp? nothing like having another OP variant :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321443713939?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

[UltraMarginal]

I have one Transformer I've never opened. A Henkei Ghost Starscream. He's packed away somewhere and I would dig him out, open him, and give him pride of place on my Seeker shelf. But he's clear plastic and I know thats a disaster waiting to happen. So should I open or not?

I was going to suggest opening it as you clearly have a love for this toy.


Well I opened my Henkei Ghost Starscream. Really nice use of the Classics Seeker mould. He was super nerve-racking to transform because of the super tight joints combined with the clear plastic. I'm happy I did it.

and you did.

I don't think you have too much to worry about, clear plastic is more brittle than more standard plastics but the seeker mold is fairly solid, except maybe for the wing attachment points. If your careful you shouldn't have any issues. It's not anywhere near as fragile as gold plastic.

[Sky Shadow]

For anyone lucky to have a G1 Overlord could you please post a comparison pic for me next to some of the more common G1 toys?
I just want to get an idea of size

Pretty much the same size as Scorponok; half the size of Fortress Maximus; at least double the size of most G1 toys. Look at any of the big G1 collections in the Reflector's Collections and Comparisons thread here for a better idea.


has anyone ever seen one of these or know if its a fake G1?? I've only seen a cookie crisp Jazz and can't really find anything much details on an OP cookie crisp? nothing like having another OP variant :)

It's a 'custom'.

[Paulbot]

For anyone lucky to have a G1 Overlord could you please post a comparison pic for me next to some of the more common G1 toys?
I just want to get an idea of size

I don't have many G1 toys on display but Overlord is one of them. I also don't have quick access to my other G1 toys so this is a bit of a random mix.

Monstructor, Devastator and Omega might be smaller than you expect. ;)

https://38.media.tumblr.com/08271d86a834c9274b468f613d7b5ed7/tumblr_n86wqzoSzO1qbguy1o1_500.jpg (http://paulbot.tumblr.com/image/90756036117)

Moments later, Overlord killed all these Transformers...

[Starscream77]

Thanks heaps Paulbot, very helpful.
He is larger than I thought

[Paulbot]

Thanks heaps Paulbot, very helpful.
He is larger than I thought

He's the biggest G1 'con and unless I'm mistaken the second biggest G1 overall. (Some of the Japanese Cybertron commanders might be bigger with their combined modes and all).

As a lucky fluke, I managed to include a toy from just about every G1 year's range in that shot - but they were just the G1 figures not in storage.

[Joshy]

Did Devastator get reissued in English? Im fairly certain this is a KO
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-DEVASTATOR-reissue-G1-MISB-/161356903164?pt=AU_Action_Figures&hash=item25919ef2fc

But according to a few of the KO guides it has G1 markings...as far as I can tell from a picture anyway.

[Sinnertwin]

Did Devastator get reissued in English? Im fairly certain this is a KO
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-DEVASTATOR-reissue-G1-MISB-/161356903164?pt=AU_Action_Figures&hash=item25919ef2fc

But according to a few of the KO guides it has G1 markings...as far as I can tell from a picture anyway.

KO.
Only Takara Tomy have reissued Devastator recently as part of their Encore range.

[Joshy]

Thanks, was hoping to get an English box. Ahwell.

[Sinnertwin]

Thanks, was hoping to get an English box. Ahwell.

Yeah, with so many KNock off's floating around it'll take a bit of time to sift through the 'reissues' & some of the sellers claiming that they are the real deal.
Pay a visit to highendtfs.com too

[crankcase76]

Does anyone know when the release date for MP Sunstorm at TRU wil be as i have found it for preorder online at Robotkingdom and am debating to order online or chase it down locally?

[Joshy]

Yeah, with so many KNock off's floating around it'll take a bit of time to sift through the 'reissues' & some of the sellers claiming that they are the real deal.
Pay a visit to highendtfs.com too

Yeah its proving to be pretty tedius! thanks. It was highendtfs that made me question it, but then found a seibetron link with an English box in the pic so wasn't sure.

[Starscream77]

Does anyone know when the release date for MP Sunstorm at TRU wil be as i have found it for preorder online at Robotkingdom and am debating to order online or chase it down locally?

I think it was August, but not 100% sure

[Megatran]

Can anyone please kindly shed light on this Mini G1 Seekers (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-Transformers-Mini-G1-Ghost-Starscream-Thrust-Ramjet-Dirge-Clear-Black-/221481972478?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item33915ab2fe&_uhb=1) item on eBay. Thanks.

[Sinnertwin]

Can anyone please kindly shed light on this Mini G1 Seekers (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-Transformers-Mini-G1-Ghost-Starscream-Thrust-Ramjet-Dirge-Clear-Black-/221481972478?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item33915ab2fe&_uhb=1) item on eBay. Thanks.

http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=83198

Different versions, same company

http://www.starscream.ca/transfan/shrine/knock.php#wstghost
Click on the KO WST Ghost Starscream header

[Megatran]

^ So it's a KO. Thanks Sinnertwin.

[Dead End]

This has probably been answered a million times afore but I'm having trouble finding it. My question is: with the IDW comics, where do I start? I seem to find a lot of ordering by the chronology of the series, but in terms of publication?

[Paulbot]

The Inflirtation and Stormbringer miniseries are the first two series in publication order.

Publication order is fine to read by too, although chronological order works well too.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a publishing order somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

Edit:. The TFwiki IDW (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/IDW) page gives a pretty good publishing order.

[Dead End]

The Inflirtation and Stormbringer miniseries are the first two series in publication order.

Publication order is fine to read by too, although chronological order works well too.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a publishing order somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

Edit:. The TFwiki IDW (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/IDW) page gives a pretty good publishing order.

Cheers heaps man, so your advice is to follow the timeline rather than the publication history?

[Paulbot]

Publication and Chronological order is very similar. There's a few miniseries that are set before the first comics, and same goes for most of the Spotlight comics.

I like publication order in that each story reveals more about the overall universe, and flashback stories fill in the blanks. It also means you read the stories the same way originally intended and experienced. If you read publication order, no story should reveal plot points, even if a later story is set back in time.

Usually I recommend people skip the first three eras of the IDW (Furman, McCarthy, Costa) altogether and start with the current series (the prologue "Death of" issue then MTMTE and RID).

Edit: here's some more thoughts on the matter (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=13607). I knew I'd answered that before :)

[Dead End]

Usually I recommend people skip the first three eras of the IDW (Furman, McCarthy, Costa) altogether and start with the current series (the prologue "Death of" issue then MTMTE and RID).

Edit: here's some more thoughts on the matter (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=13607). I knew I'd answered that before :)

Thanks mate, muchly appreciated, I'll take your advice and start with "The Death of Optimus Prime"

[i_amtrunks]

Thanks mate, muchly appreciated, I'll take your advice and start with "The Death of Optimus Prime"

I second the "start at death of OP" theory for new readers.

I loved the Furman era "-tions" series, many of the things we see in the MtMtE and RiD books have their origins in that series, but they were many years ago and are in no way necessary to understand or enjoy the 2 newer series.

Read the 30+ issues of MtMtE and possibly RiD, then if you like them, and want some of the "back history" then you can hunt down the cheaper trades from the previous authors.

If you have comixology on your iPad or tablet, there are a few single issues you might like to hunt down, like Spotlight Shockwave.

Generally, taking Paulbots advice with the comics is a very good idea.

[DELTAprime]

As someone that has read every IDW Transformers comic except for most of Transformers Ongoing I's say Death of Optimus Prime onwards + Last Stand of The Wreckers (cause its just awesome) is must read and if you want to know more read the -ation's, Spotlight's and AHM. But don't bother with Transformers Ongoing, it's just horrible.

[Paulbot]

The ongoing does feature a two part story by James Roberts with Alex Milne art that's very good and a prelude to MTMTE's Shadowplay story. If you only read two issues of the 'ongoing' read #22 and #23.

[DELTAprime]

Is Encore Soundblaster worth picking up for $99 from BBTS? I'm split on him, on one hand it's a Soundwave. On the other hand I hate Headmasters.:confused:

[Sinnertwin]

Is Encore Soundblaster worth picking up for $99 from BBTS? I'm split on him, on one hand it's a Soundwave. On the other hand I hate Headmasters.:confused:

He's a bit meh, really. I think the only redeeming qualities are Enemy & Wingthing, but do you really want to pay $99+ for two cassettes & a black repaint?

[UltraMarginal]

Generally, taking Paulbots advice with the comics is a very good idea.


this^:D

[DELTAprime]

How safe is it to buy off Chinese sellers on ebay?

I've never ordered from China before as I normally can find the item elsewhere for a similar price. I've looked up the items I'm after (Hasbro Deluxe DOTM Soundwave (I'm going SW completest) and Encore Cassettes 17) and haven't found any warnings about them being KOed, at least in legit colours, size and packaging.

I'm just wary because of the amount KO's that come out of China.

[Bidoofdude]

How safe is it to buy off Chinese sellers on ebay?

I've never ordered from China before as I normally can find the item elsewhere for a similar price. I've looked up the items I'm after (Hasbro Deluxe DOTM Soundwave (I'm going SW completest) and Encore Cassettes 17) and haven't found any warnings about them being KOed, at least in legit colours, size and packaging.

I'm just wary because of the amount KO's that come out of China.

I'd call it safe, since none seem to have been KO'd. I've had nothing but good experiences ordering stuff from China or HK and it's usually cheaper to boot. I would go with any preorders though, just to be safe, just in stock items.

[Sky Shadow]

How safe is it to buy off Chinese sellers on ebay?

It's safe as long as you're sensibly cautious - you've done the research on the toys, which is great - the other half is ensuring you're buying it from a dealer with a long history and the right amount of positive feedback. If they don't have a bunch of negative feedback about not sending items or selling knockoffs you should be fine.

[Omega Metro]

Ive bought a lot from Chinese sellers in the past. My main problem is extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee emlly slow postage time.

[DELTAprime]

Ive bought a lot from Chinese sellers in the past. My main problem is extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee emlly slow postage time.

Ok thanks. I'll grab these items while I can. These sellers only have negative feedback from inexperienced buyers amounting to stuff I find trivial and not worth making negative feedback for.

[5FDP]

If they don't have a bunch of negative feedback about not sending items or selling knockoffs you should be fine.

Or Santa hats.

[Sky Shadow]

Or Santa hats.

Heh. I actually had that in the sentence originally, then deleted it in case it was still a sore point for some people around here. :p

[millhouse]

Is Encore Soundblaster worth picking up for $99 from BBTS? I'm split on him, on one hand it's a Soundwave. On the other hand I hate Headmasters.:confused:

Marginally cheaper at Chimungmung (USD$68+shipping): http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_66&products_id=666

I quite like Soundblaster, but its down to personal preference.

[griffin]

Don't forget that we also have a sub-section here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=36) to help people spot the fakes, and alert others when new ones are known... and ask if you think something might be a fake.

[liegeprime]

Or Santa hats.

huh? I don't get it?:confused::confused:

@DELTAPrime: If you do get it from Chimungmung, it's usually a week and a Half for items to arrive but there are times it's pleasantly less than that and just about a week. He's HK based so a bit faster than from China mainland that takes aaaaaaageeeessss.

[DELTAprime]

@DELTAPrime: If you do get it from Chimungmung, it's usually a week and a Half for items to arrive but there are times it's pleasantly less than that and just about a week. He's HK based so a bit faster than from China mainland that takes aaaaaaageeeessss.

Never used him, whats his postage fees like?

His price on Encore SB is much lower than BBTS or even ebay so I may as well get it from him if his P+H is reasonable.


Don't forget that we also have a sub-section here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=36) to help people spot the fakes, and alert others when new ones are known... and ask if you think something might be a fake.

Yeah checked there among other places as to if there are KO's of the ones I'm getting from China. Turns out one of the Chinese sellers has already shipped what I've ordered.

[1orion2many]

huh? I don't get it?:confused::confused:


We had a rash of people buying things of ebay with prices which were to good to be true, They all got sent Santa hats instead of the item they bought.

[Bidoofdude]

Is Encore Soundblaster worth picking up for $99 from BBTS? I'm split on him, on one hand it's a Soundwave. On the other hand I hate Headmasters.:confused:

It's not really any different from any other Soundwave. I don't imagine the black being too much of a change. If you really want Wingthing and Enemy that badly, go ahead. If you're not a fan of Soundblaster in the Headmasters or any other series that he may have appeared in, I wouldn't go for it.

[DELTAprime]

It's not really any different from any other Soundwave. I don't imagine the black being too much of a change. If you really want Wingthing and Enemy that badly, go ahead. If you're not a fan of Soundblaster in the Headmasters or any other series that he may have appeared in, I wouldn't go for it.

Yeah it's like Soundwave/Soundblaster is great plus two cassettes I can't get anywhere else. But on the minus side I don't like Headmasters (mainly because of the horrible english dub)

[GoktimusPrime]

YBut on the minus side I don't like Headmasters (mainly because of the horrible english dub)
So watch it subbed? :confused:

[DELTAprime]

So watch it subbed? :confused:

I'm dyslexic, thats a big problem when watching anime.

[Bidoofdude]

I'm dyslexic, thats a big problem when watching anime.

There definitely was someone who was going to make an accurate fandub, but I didn't see anything beyond a trailer. Youtube IP issues?

EDIT: Here's the trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xn1h6QKbfQ), they are apparently still working on it. It sounds great. Once they've done, I'd definitely watch it. I enjoyed the subbed Headmasters a lot. Some much cooler combiner fights and general mood. :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Dubs just don't translate as well as subs, and since Japanese G1 is officially licensed and sold in Western countries, including Australia, there's also a moral and legal issue over producing and distributing fan dubs (or even fan subs). Another alternative may be to ask someone to sit with you and read the subtitles aloud for you.

Perhaps there could be a fan made audio narrative made for people with reading difficulties. It would be relatively simple to do, just have someone read the subtitles aloud while watching each episode with the TV on mute, and recording their voice on audio files and upload them for viewing. It'd be somewhat similar to listening to an audio book, only without the audio descriptions of everything that's happening (although that would benefit the visually impaired). Perhaps we could list all the Japanese G1 episodes and see who's willing to narrate which episodes and upload them somewhere. AFAIK most image hosting sites (e.g. Photobucket) can also host audio files too. :)

I'd be willing to get the ball rolling... although I'm currently coming down with a cough and sore throat. :o Thoughts?

[spiderken17]

I might be crazy but I cannot find the G1 acquisitions thread. Little help?

[Bidoofdude]

I might be crazy but I cannot find the G1 acquisitions thread. Little help?

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=19005

[spiderken17]

Thanks.

[Bidoofdude]

Did we get wave/collection 4 of Kreon micro changers here? I'm trying to find a few. Haven't seen any Wave 3 either.

[MayzaPrime]

Did we get wave/collection 4 of Kreon micro changers here? I'm trying to find a few. Haven't seen any Wave 3 either.

Wave 4 didn't but wave 3 did

I managed to pick up wave 4 by buying it from Amazon and having it shipped to a friend in the US.

[blackoptimus]

If theres a little bit of blue corrosion thats leaked out from a battery on to the terminal and the majority is scrubbed of with a brush, can the remanding little bit of blue corrosion still wreck the electronics or the terminal?

[griffin]

If theres a little bit of blue corrosion thats leaked out from a battery on to the terminal and the majority is scrubbed of with a brush, can the remanding little bit of blue corrosion still wreck the electronics or the terminal?

According to Kup in this topic (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=12178), the corrosion won't progress any further (beyond normal humidity corrosion).

[Bidoofdude]

Wave 4 didn't but wave 3 did

I managed to pick up wave 4 by buying it from Amazon and having it shipped to a friend in the US.

Where did we get Wave 4? Big W?

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

To anyone who has the Gears of War 004 set and Voyager Grapple, does the Gears of War 004 rocket/hose hand for Inferno also work on Grappel/Grapple in robot mode? i.e. can you give Grapple his G1-style rocket-launcher hand if you have the GoW set?

[DELTAprime]

Anyone know if there is a resource out there that shows off the size difference between toys of the same class over the years?

[GoktimusPrime]

Toys in the same class are more or less the same size as each other (give or take a centimetre). I took a sample of between 3 to 9 toys from each class from toys pre-dating Dark of the Moon, and a sample that came after, and here's what I got...

Pre-DotM
* Deluxe = 15cm
* Voyager = 19cm
* Leader = 25cm

Post-DotM
* Deluxe = 14cm
* Voyager = 17cm
* Leader = 25cm

[Sky Shadow]

Toys in the same class are more or less the same size as each other (give or take a centimetre).

Not always the case, though. Consider Transformers Animated Deluxe Lockdown, Robots in Disguise Deluxe Wedge, just about any of the Beast Machines Cheetors, etc.

[GoktimusPrime]

Not always the case, though. Consider Transformers Animated Deluxe Lockdown, Robots in Disguise Deluxe Wedge, just about any of the Beast Machines Cheetors, etc.
Not to mention BM Thrust and your beloved Animated Lugnut. There are exceptions, but I was just looking at averages, but of course, individual results may vary greatly (e.g. the average Australian man is 1.75m tall, but many of us aren't 175cm in height ;)). :o As we all know, the classes are really based on price point rather than standardised sizing anyway. :cool:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/focoptimusprimeleia.jpg

[Trent]

Not getting Lugnut in leader class was one of the biggest travesties of Animated. It's up there with the lack of the 4th season :(

[tinyJazz]

If we can get comic books for My Little Pony, Littlest Pet Shop, Dexter's Lab, Samurai Jack and "How to ride your Dinobot" from IDW, SURELY they can do TFA season 4 as a comic. The story has all been mapped out already!

[DELTAprime]

Toys in the same class are more or less the same size as each other (give or take a centimetre). I took a sample of between 3 to 9 toys from each class from toys pre-dating Dark of the Moon, and a sample that came after, and here's what I got...

Pre-DotM
* Deluxe = 15cm
* Voyager = 19cm
* Leader = 25cm

Post-DotM
* Deluxe = 14cm
* Voyager = 17cm
* Leader = 25cm

I wouldn't even lump them into just pre and post DOTM rather by year. I was cleaning my collection and noticed TFA Leader Megatron is way shorter than his Cybertron counterpart. So yeah I was hoping someone with a large enough collection would have gone through and made a gallery or chart of sizes over the years.

[GoktimusPrime]

Some text reviewers also include the sizes of the toys (in vehicle and robot modes), so if you click on the reviews for the toy, you can see and compare the sizes. Two I would recommend would be:
dirge's cliffbee.com (http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/)
Dave's Transformers Page (http://www.eyrie.org/~dvandom/BW/)

[DELTAprime]

Whats the popular opinion on the move away spring missile launchers over to friction missile launchers? Is it safety? Is it cost cutting?

[MayzaPrime]

Not getting Lugnut in leader class was one of the biggest travesties of Animated. It's up there with the lack of the 4th season :(

And not getting a titan class Omega Supreme & the Lugnut Supreme clones :(

As well as not getting Scrapper, Mixmaster & Dirt Boss...

Or a Brawn (retool of Soundwave) Strika, Cyclonus, Spittor.

[Sinnertwin]

Whats the popular opinion on the move away spring missile launchers over to friction missile launchers? Is it safety? Is it cost cutting?

It's just another cost cutting measure. Even the tiniest of pieces add up.

[DELTAprime]

I'm just inventorying my POL that showed up today. Just wondering is SG Soundwave V Blaster a TF Club product that Takara made for them or is a Takara product that the TF Club carried?

[Paulbot]

I'm just inventorying my POL that showed up today. Just wondering is SG Soundwave V Blaster a TF Club product that Takara made for them or is a Takara product that the TF Club carried?

A bit of both. It was a shared exclusive between the Club (US) and eHobby (Japan)

[Omega Metro]

Whats the popular opinion on the move away spring missile launchers over to friction missile launchers? Is it safety? Is it cost cutting?

I think its great. Those spring loaded ones are generally bulkier and they accidentally fire in my face, or behind the sofa or the Chihuahua eats them.:D

[UltraMarginal]

Whats the popular opinion on the move away spring missile launchers over to friction missile launchers? Is it safety? Is it cost cutting?

I'm pretty confident it's cost cutting, I really don't like them. some are too stiff and for a younger person would be quite painful to push past the release point.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Anyone know when the G1 version of KreO Grimlock is due to hit the stores here? I heard it was a TRU exclusive but can't find it on their website.

[Zommael]

Whats the popular opinion on the move away spring missile launchers over to friction missile launchers? Is it safety? Is it cost cutting?

It is cost cutting, but it's a good move IMO. Spring loaded missiles always seem to have hair triggers and blow up in my face. Plus pressure launchers are less likely to fire in storage/transportation.

[UltraMarginal]

Anyone know when the G1 version of KreO Grimlock is due to hit the stores here? I heard it was a TRU exclusive but can't find it on their website.

Is it confirmed for release here? Kre-o is only a TRU exclusive in the states I think.

[griffin]

Is it confirmed for release here? Kre-o is only a TRU exclusive in the states I think.

Yes, it is only TRU exclusive in America (this year), but since it wasn't revealed as part of the regular line of Kreo sets at Toyfairs, the Grimlock set is likely to be a TRU exclusive that may or may not come here.
(email Hasbro or TRU to find out)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Is it confirmed for release here? Kre-o is only a TRU exclusive in the states I think.


Yes, it is only TRU exclusive in America (this year), but since it wasn't revealed as part of the regular line of Kreo sets at Toyfairs, the Grimlock set is likely to be a TRU exclusive that may or may not come here.
(email Hasbro or TRU to find out)

Thanks guys :) Found it on the TRU USA website - now I just have to decide if I want it enough to pay shipping on top of its cost. That's even IF they ship this particular toy to Aus (got burnt with MP Soundwave) :rolleyes:


Has anyone else that purchased the Optimus/Grimlock AoE 2-pack from Target noticed that the sword provided for Optimus Prime is the pretty the exact same sword belonging to G1 Predacon Rampage? It's just gray instead of gold - weird!

[Sky Shadow]

Has anyone else that purchased the Optimus/Grimlock AoE 2-pack from Target noticed that the sword provided for Optimus Prime is the pretty the exact same sword belonging to G1 Predacon Rampage? It's just gray instead of gold - weird!

The G1 Predacons and modern Optimus Primes have been going to swap meets, judging from this and the Platinum Thrilling 30 Predacon set.

[BigTransformerTrev]

The G1 Predacons and modern Optimus Primes have been going to swap meets, judging from this and the Platinum Thrilling 30 Predacon set.

Oh of course! The reissue G1 Predacons and the Optimus Prime/Grimlock 2-pack are both part of the 'Thrilling 30'. Hence why they had the sword design to hand (forehead slap)!

[Trent]

If we can get comic books for My Little Pony, Littlest Pet Shop, Dexter's Lab, Samurai Jack and "How to ride your Dinobot" from IDW, SURELY they can do TFA season 4 as a comic. The story has all been mapped out already!

Yes. But all it would do would be to make me miss the toys we never got like Marauder Megs and Optimus' trailer.


My question: how long does SAL shipping generally sit in customs for in Sydney? So far I'm at 7 days and counting :rolleyes:

[DELTAprime]

Thanks guys :) Found it on the TRU USA website - now I just have to decide if I want it enough to pay shipping on top of its cost. That's even IF they ship this particular toy to Aus (got burnt with MP Soundwave) :rolleyes:


If it helps you make a decision at all I just ordered from TRU US this week. Only paid $40AUD on shipping on two really heavy Power Rangers toys. (tons of diecast)

[DELTAprime]

My question: how long does SAL shipping generally sit in customs for in Sydney? So far I'm at 7 days and counting :rolleyes:

Shouldn't take long. 2-5 hours. You order something you shouldn't?:p

[Trent]

No :) But it is annoying because it hasn't even shown up on Australia Post's tracking yet. It's only Japan Post that shows it arriving in Sydney and then nothing :(

[TAAUBlaster]

No :) But it is annoying because it hasn't even shown up on Australia Post's tracking yet. It's only Japan Post that shows it arriving in Sydney and then nothing :(

The same thing happens when I order stuff *EMS* from Japan. Sits in Sydney Customs for ages - usually at least 4 days. (It used to be on my doorstep within 5 days from Japan a few years ago. Now it takes 7 or 8 days before I get it.) Even being SAL, it shouldn't be to much longer before it leaves Sydney.

[DELTAprime]

I've never had an item sit in customs for more than a few hours. I've had a couple of packages in the last week go through customs and only took a matter of hours.

It may however be that it's not sitting in customs. Unless JP Post specifically says it is in customs it may actually be in Aus Post hands. I had a package disappear when it hit Sydney, turns out it was in Aus Post hands for a month without any tracking. They were covering themselves because they were under staffed and couldn't deliver in a timely manner.

[Bidoofdude]

What G2 toys have we got in the classics/universe/generations lines (and subsidiaries)? I'm thinking of starting a G2 Classics collection.

So far, I know:
-RTS Laser Optimus Prime
-Generations GDO Megatron (redeco of ROTF Bludgeon w/ new head)
-Generations G2 Dreadwing
-Generations FOC G2 Bruticus

Convention exclusives would do as well thanks, just to see what we have and have not. Would love to see G2 repaints of Menasor and Superion.

[Sky Shadow]

What G2 toys have we got in the classics/universe/generations lines (and subsidiaries)?

Universe Inferno.
Universe Skyfall.
TFCC Ramjet.
Robots In Disguise/Generations Jhiaxus.
TFSS Starscream.
BotCon Autobot Electrons
Most of the 2010 BotCon toys.
Arguably Ultimate Gift Set Jazz.
Possibly Shattered Glass Sideswipe.

[Bidoofdude]

Universe Inferno.
Universe Skyfall.
TFCC Ramjet.
Robots In Disguise/Generations Jhiaxus.
TFSS Starscream.
BotCon Autobot Electrons
Most of the 2010 BotCon toys.
Arguably Ultimate Gift Set Jazz.
Possibly Shattered Glass Sideswipe.

Thanks. Forgot about Jazz in the Ultimate Giftset.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Anyone know when the G1 version of KreO Grimlock is due to hit the stores here? I heard it was a TRU exclusive but can't find it on their website.


Is it confirmed for release here? Kre-o is only a TRU exclusive in the states I think.


Yes, it is only TRU exclusive in America (this year), but since it wasn't revealed as part of the regular line of Kreo sets at Toyfairs, the Grimlock set is likely to be a TRU exclusive that may or may not come here.
(email Hasbro or TRU to find out)


Thanks guys :) Found it on the TRU USA website - now I just have to decide if I want it enough to pay shipping on top of its cost. That's even IF they ship this particular toy to Aus (got burnt with MP Soundwave) :rolleyes:





If it helps you make a decision at all I just ordered from TRU US this week. Only paid $40AUD on shipping on two really heavy Power Rangers toys. (tons of diecast)


Grrr! :mad: Have tried several times to order Kre-O G1 Grimlock on my home PC and it keeps coming up with error messages. I tried on my phone and it let me get half way through the order before questioning my billing. Even though it CLEARLY says International Shipping Available on the toys page, the billing thing is saying 'international shipping is not offered'. Freaking TRU online website - you've screwed me again! :mad: I've sent them a query email but am not hopeful that they will be particularly helpful. :(

[Ravagecat]

Does anyone know what governs the ridiculous asking price for a G1 TM Scourge??
I know we never got the movie character target-masters here but Americans are selling TM Scourge for on average $300US for a complete but usually average condition one :eek:
Does anyone know the story behind this?? Is he just a popular figure, was he short packed?? Kup and Hotrod are relatively cheap because they were re-issued, but why aren't people asking as much for TM Blurr and TM Cyclonus as they are for TM Scourge when they have not been re-issued?

Madness I tell you Madness!!

[Sinnertwin]

From what i've read, he was only packed one per case. For what it's worth, I think Mark Bellamo makes mention of this in his guide book too.

Ive just had a quick look on eBay & his complete price has certainly gone up since i last checked. I was looking at a complete one for ~$180 last year.
I find Scourge by himself seems relatively cheap, it's an unbroken Fracas that seems to be driving the prices up & up.

[DELTAprime]

Stupid question...

I just got a LP Soundwave. Did Hasbro remove the firing mechanism from SW's launcher? Mine doesn't fire.:(

[millhouse]

Stupid question...

I just got a LP Soundwave. Did Hasbro remove the firing mechanism from SW's launcher? Mine doesn't fire.:(

I can't remember on mine, but being Hasbro - probably!

[Ravagecat]

From what i've read, he was only packed one per case. For what it's worth, I think Mark Bellamo makes mention of this in his guide book too.

Ive just had a quick look on eBay & his complete price has certainly gone up since i last checked. I was looking at a complete one for ~$180 last year.
I find Scourge by himself seems relatively cheap, it's an unbroken Fracas that seems to be driving the prices up & up.

Thanks for the reply Sinnertwin. I just heard back from another source that he is pretty sure Scourge was short packed and that he recalls a lot of the Transformers from 1987 were short runs (not as many made) due to a falling in popularity of Transformers around then. Which makes sense and possibly explains why the TM movie bots were not released here...

[griffin]

Scourge might also suffer the fate of "army building" with quite a few people wanting three sweeps to go with their Scourge, to match the more common number in the cartoon and comic.
(there wasn't a lot of army building character toys in Gen1, and it was a lot easier and cheaper to army build three, than something like Insecticons or Wreckers... and the Sweeps were more like characters too)

[GoktimusPrime]

I never knew that TM Scourge was shortpacked. TM Scourge, Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Blurr and Kup were never released in Australia (and quite honestly, even if they had been, I probably would've skipped them -- cos in 1987 I would've rather spent my pocket money on new characters rather than getting the same ones again with new weapons :p). I only got Targetmaster Hot Rod and Kup because they were reissued... Targetmaster Blurr is one of the few Transformer toys that I purchased off the aftermarket at above its original price (just cos it was the only Hasbro Targetmaster toy that I didn't have ;)). I only got Stepper because that was reissued. But as for Artfire, TM Scourge and Cyclonus - unless they get reissued, I'm not gonna get them. I have Classicsverse versions of all those characters now, so as far as I'm concerned, that'll just have to do. :o


Ive just had a quick look on eBay & his complete price has certainly gone up since i last checked. I was looking at a complete one for ~$180 last year.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/th_spitdrink-1.gif
...or I could go and preorder three MISB MP Cars and spend the change on a new MOSC Deluxe Class for the same price! :eek:

[Sky Shadow]

In each case of twelve, there were three Misfires, three Triggerhappys, three Slugslingers, two Cyclonuses and one Scourge. The consequences of this in a world of completists and fragile Fracases are obvious.

[Sinnertwin]

...or I could go and preorder three MISB MP Cars and spend the change on a new MOSC Deluxe Class for the same price! :eek:

It's to be expected, Gok, it isn't 1987 anymore.
I doubt you'll be able to buy an MP car for $50 in the year 2041 either ;)

[griffin]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/th_spitdrink-1.gif
...or I could go and preorder three MISB MP Cars and spend the change on a new MOSC Deluxe Class for the same price! :eek:

So when you sell off your collection, you are going to list them at 1980s retail prices?

[BigTransformerTrev]

So when you sell off your collection, you are going to list them at 1980s retail prices?

lol - I'll put my hand up right now for those kinds of deals :D



Can anyone fill me in on the process where you get a free USA postal address some company provides then they forward your items to you in Australia? Still haven't heard back from TRU US about why every TF item that says 'international shipping available' that I try to order then says 'international shipping not available when I try to go through the checkout' so am looking for alternatives.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's to be expected, Gok, it isn't 1987 anymore.
I doubt you'll be able to buy an MP car for $50 in the year 2041 either ;)
I never said any of those things. I just said that the same amount of money could fund my next three MP cars and a Deluxe. Whether a Targetmaster Scourge is worth paying $180 for or not wasn't something I commented on. If someone thinks a Targetmaster Scourge is worth splashing $180 at, then good for them. I'd personally rather spend it on other stuff is all.

So when you sell off your collection, you are going to list them at 1980s retail prices?
Sell... my... collection? :confused:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/whatchootalkinbout.jpg

[Sinnertwin]

I never said any of those things. I just said that the same amount of money could fund my next three MP cars and a Deluxe. Whether a Targetmaster Scourge is worth paying $180 for or not wasn't something I commented on. If someone thinks a Targetmaster Scourge is worth splashing $180 at, then good for them. I'd personally rather spend it on other stuff is all.

Fair enough. This guy

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/th_spitdrink-1.gif

& your comment had me thinking otherwise.

[Bidoofdude]

How much did TM Scourge sell for at retail in the US anyway (1987 USD)?

[Sky Shadow]

How much did TM Scourge sell for at retail in the US anyway (1987 USD)?

Between $10 and $14. E.g.
http://s28.postimg.org/lkpa2vrtp/Cyclonus.png

[Trent]

^That is a cool little picture

[Paulbot]

Between $10 and $14. E.g.
http://s28.postimg.org/lkpa2vrtp/Cyclonus.png

I've never seen G2 Cyclonus before ;)

[5FDP]

It's ridiculous to think that back in the day, TM Scourge sold for a little over $3 extra what you'd expect to pay for a legends class toy today :eek: :eek: :eek:

Damn you parents! Why didn't you buy me more when prices were so low you cheap bastards!!

[Paulbot]

It's ridiculous to think that back in the day, TM Scourge sold for a little over $3 extra what you'd expect to pay for a legends class toy today :eek: :eek: :eek:

Damn you parents! Why didn't you buy me more when prices were so low you cheap bastards!!

I don't think that's an Australian ad, I don't have any old toy catalogue ads from Aus that use a drawing instead of a photo.

So double the US price and around $20-$30 AUD was what the cars/jets/targetmasters sold for here in the 80s. Comparable to a deluxe today really.

[Sky Shadow]

I don't think that's an Australian ad, I don't have any old toy catalogue ads from Aus that use a drawing instead of a photo.

Yeah, the question was about US retail, (presumably since we didn't get Targetmaster Cyclonus and Scourge here anyway.) I do remember the Chinese reissues of the Decepticon Planes being about that bargain price in Aussie dollars, but from memory I think the Targetmasters were about $29.99-$35.00 at full price.

[Sinnertwin]

I do remember the Chinese reissues of the Decepticon Planes being about that bargain price in Aussie dollars, but from memory I think the Targetmasters were about $29.99-$35.00 at full price.

Yeah, I remember buying the reissue Ramjet at Toys R Us Liverpool for $16.99

[GoktimusPrime]

I got the re-release of Cyclonus for $2! :D The funny thing was, I already had an original Cyclonus at the time -- but when I saw the toy again for two bucks, I picked it up because my original had sticker wear. And also so he could be Cyclonus' "Armada." :p My first foray into army building! :D Never did it for Scourge though (probably because I never found that toy at such a cheap price)


It's ridiculous to think that back in the day, TM Scourge sold for a little over $3 extra what you'd expect to pay for a legends class toy today :eek: :eek: :eek:

Damn you parents! Why didn't you buy me more when prices were so low you cheap bastards!!
My mum bought about a dozen Kups when Grace Bros reduced the price to $5 each. They became 'gift fodder' for the next 2 years (i.e. all of my friends and cousins got a Kup!). :p

[DELTAprime]

Remember the old saying. "The price of stamps shall climb ever higher":p

[Ravagecat]

Yeah, I remember buying the reissue Ramjet at Toys R Us Liverpool for $16.99

Can I have some more info on this reissue?? Was it still released in the official hasbro box or was there some way to determine it was Chinese (Chinese writing)? Do you still have the toy ST? If it's opened can I see a picture of the box and the manufacturer/date stamp on the toy?

[5FDP]

Yeah, the question was about US retail, (presumably since we didn't get Targetmaster Cyclonus and Scourge here anyway.)

Of course *forehead slap*


My mum bought about a dozen Kups when Grace Bros reduced the price to $5 each. They became 'gift fodder' for the next 2 years (i.e. all of my friends and cousins got a Kup!). :p

The last part of that just sounds dirty :eek:

[Sinnertwin]

Can I have some more info on this reissue?? Was it still released in the official hasbro box or was there some way to determine it was Chinese (Chinese writing)? Do you still have the toy ST? If it's opened can I see a picture of the box and the manufacturer/date stamp on the toy?

Official Hasbro box and all, RC
There were no stickers to on it indicate that it was a Chinese reissue or anything like that. The asst. number is different, i'm pretty sure of that
I still have it & it is opened, but from memory the copyright on the Seekers was printed on the inside of their legs, so a photo may be difficult, but i can always supply the text.
Leave it with me for a few, i've got to dig the box up, but it shouldn't be too hard to find


That reminds me, i also bought sealed versions of G1 Inferno, Astrotrain, Blitzwing, Mirage & Sunstreaker among others while i was overseas... in 1993 ;)

[5FDP]

[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="3"]There were no stickers to on it indicate that it was a Chinese reissue or anything like that.

Sorry to contradict you but there were. I have quite a few and they all have a small black sticker with Chinese writing on them. The copyright information below the Tech Specs was also shorter when compared to their western original release.

[Sinnertwin]

Sorry to contradict you but there were. I have quite a few and they all have a small black sticker with Chinese writing on them. The copyright information below the Tech Specs was also shorter when compared to their western original release.

I'll have to double check then. i don't remember there being one, but it's something to look out for. :)

[5FDP]

If it helps, here (http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15) is a link to info regarding the Chinese reissues. In it, it states "The boxes had only tiny alternations and a small Chinese name sticker in the corner, making them very difficult to differentiate from the original releases, especially when the name sticker was removed." It goes on to say that these stickers were very easy to remove so that may have been the case with yours Sinner. There doesn't seem to be any images in that article showing the Chinese sticker but I can post one here later if people would like (I posted one here in the Acquisitions thread back in Jan 2010 however the image has expired :()

[UltraMarginal]

Between $10 and $14. E.g.
http://s28.postimg.org/lkpa2vrtp/Cyclonus.png


^That is a cool little picture
I totally agree.

I've never seen G2 Cyclonus before ;)

:D

[Ravagecat]

... but from memory the copyright on the Seekers was printed on the inside of their legs, so a photo may be difficult, but i can always supply the text.
Leave it with me for a few, i've got to dig the box up, but it shouldn't be too hard to find...

Thank you that would be great :)


If it helps, here (http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15) is a link to info regarding the Chinese reissues. In it, it states "The boxes had only tiny alternations and a small Chinese name sticker in the corner, making them very difficult to differentiate from the original releases, especially when the name sticker was removed." It goes on to say that these stickers were very easy to remove so that may have been the case with yours Sinner. There doesn't seem to be any images in that article showing the Chinese sticker but I can post one here later if people would like (I posted one here in the Acquisitions thread back in Jan 2010 however the image has expired :()

Thanks heaps for the link :) and please find the pic and re-post. Thanks :D

[5FDP]

Thanks heaps for the link :) and please find the pic and re-post. Thanks :D

Here you go. Best photo I could find. I've even circled the sticker for you :)

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s490/5FDP_75/Scrapper.jpg

[DELTAprime]

When you guys count your collection do you count each character or each set? I have 530 characters but only 387 sets. With combiner sets, cassette sets, vs sets and toys like Fort Max with multiple characters I count them as individual characters.

[GoktimusPrime]

When you guys count your collection do you count each character or each set? I have 530 characters but only 387 sets. With combiner sets, cassette sets, vs sets and toys like Fort Max with multiple characters I count them as individual characters.
I personally use the "Universal Counting Method" (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=217). :)

[Sinnertwin]

When you guys count your collection do you count each character or each set? I have 530 characters but only 387 sets. With combiner sets, cassette sets, vs sets and toys like Fort Max with multiple characters I count them as individual characters.

Each character individually, with some exceptions. Eg:
6 Constructicons & not Devastator
Headmaster & Targetmasters as two.
I also count doubles and/or variations. If paid for it, i can count it ;)

[griffin]

When you guys count your collection do you count each character or each set? I have 530 characters but only 387 sets. With combiner sets, cassette sets, vs sets and toys like Fort Max with multiple characters I count them as individual characters.

Most people count by character, so multi-packs are not counted as one.
How you count partner characters is up to you (toys that are specifically paired to a toy, like a Cassette or City's bots, or Minicons). Some people will count them as separate toys, others will count them as necessary to complete the larger toy (like you'd expect if you were buying one or reviewing one). But ultimately it is up to you to come up with a method that has the least amount of exceptions, so that when you take a stocktake at any time, your count will match up with your previous counts... and more importantly, a method that doesn't spoil your fun by being over complicated.

For me, it is any Hasbro/TakaraTomy figure that isn't required to complete another figure (it can be broken or missing a part)... and has to be intended as a playable toy (not a figurine).
Like, I wouldn't count Scamper because I wouldn't buy a "complete" Metroplex that doesn't have a Scamper (if I count Scamper, I can't count Metroplex as a complete toy).... or Brainstorm without an Arcana (head)... or an Armada Hotshot that doesn't have a Jolt Minicon. (a 3-pack of Minicons count as three, but a Minicon specifically partnered to a larger toy doesn't count as one... because would you buy the larger toy if it was listed as "compete" and didn't have its Minicon?)
But that's just me. Some people count figurines, some people count partner figures.... while others don't count at all, because they see it as ruining the fun by creating work.

[Ravagecat]

Here you go. Best photo I could find. I've even circled the sticker for you :)

Thanks Mate.

Sorry to hijack this thread but the knowledge of these Chinese Re-issues is new to me and quite frankly is leaving a bad taste in my mouth...I wasn't actively collecting between around 92-96/7 so rarely if at all ventured into a toy store during this time so it would explain why I didn't see them. I do however remember seeing the Gold Packaging Classics Versions in Kmart- but by the time I could afford to buy TF's again they were long gone and Machine wars had just hit the shelves.

The link you provided 5FDP labels these as re-issues, so they are not knock-offs right? Just Hasbro wanting to flood the market again with previously released transformers and presumably getting them made cheaper in China than say Japan?

Since finding out about the Chinese Re-issues I feel that I have been ripped off by a toy dealer (who probably knew) that sold me a MISB Cyclonus and MISB Ramjet back in the early 2000's as Vintage for about 5 times (each) what Sinnertwin said he paid for his Ramjet :mad: The Chinese stickers must have been removed because I definitely didn't see them on them...Ah to be naive and gullible.

The Cyclonus I purchased thinking it was Vintage - the Takara copyright has been blacked out

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p498/ravagecat/20140730_214235_zps0101635f.jpg (http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/ravagecat/media/20140730_214235_zps0101635f.jpg.html)

I always wondered why my Ramjet (mentioned above and purchased from the same dealer as Cyclonus) had the Takara stamp rubbed out on the toy's leg, but was confused because this was a common trait used on the gold boxed classics but I knew Ramjet wasn't released in the gold box :rolleyes::confused: I could find no info on Fred's workshop specifically mentioning it either so shrugged it off as an unknown/un-documented variant. Also as an FYI to others that are looking at purchasing a loose Ramjet and don't have access to the copyright stamp on the toys leg, the large Decepticon Logos on his wings are cut differently in the Chinese KO Re-issue. The Vintage is curved around the top where the re-issue is cut with straight lines (see below)

Decepticon Logo Differences - Curved edge Vintage - square edge re-issue

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p498/ravagecat/RamjetLogoDiff_zps0fef2de6.jpg (http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/ravagecat/media/RamjetLogoDiff_zps0fef2de6.jpg.html)

[UltraMarginal]

I haven't counted since I was a kid, back then (early to mid nineties) I had over 100 G1 toys largely paid for by a paper round. I counted each character. but not the combiner.

I couldn't be bothered counting these days, its probably over 1000, i'm not sure. I have a lot of alternators/binaltechs, a lot of classics/generations, nearly all of animated, at least one version of most of the movie characters and toys, a massive amount of Prime toys. I just couldn't be bothered. I have trouble finding time to open new transformers, let alone count them.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I haven't counted since I was a kid, back then (early to mid nineties) I had over 100 G1 toys largely paid for by a paper round. I counted each character. but not the combiner.

I couldn't be bothered counting these days, its probably over 1000, i'm not sure. I have a lot of alternators/binaltechs, a lot of classics/generations, nearly all of animated, at least one version of most of the movie characters and toys, a massive amount of Prime toys. I just couldn't be bothered. I have trouble finding time to open new transformers, let alone count them.

Heh - Im the same. Ive always got a backlog of toys waiting to be opened. I update my list every few months but then have to look at old photos to remember what I got in that time period :p

[Ravagecat]

...snip I have trouble finding time to open new transformers, let alone count them.

I hear you there brother...3 kids sees to time to self = 0 :rolleyes:

[UltraMarginal]

I hear you there brother...3 kids sees to time to self = 0 :rolleyes:

I don't know what I'm going to do if I'm ever lucky enough to have kids...

[Skullcruncher]

Since finding out about the Chinese Re-issues I feel that I have been ripped off by a toy dealer (who probably knew) that sold me a MISB Cyclonus and MISB Ramjet back in the early 2000's as Vintage for about 5 times (each) what Sinnertwin said he paid for his Ramjet :mad: The Chinese stickers must have been removed because I definitely didn't see them on them...Ah to be naive and gullible.

When I first started collecting I purchased a MIB G1 Prowl with prowl still sealed to the bubble - only when I got it the home I found someone had just put a classics gold boxed prowl inside the original G1 box. Not that i'm still bitter about it or anything :D

There are plenty of these Chinese issues floating around in Australia - always check the manufactures stamp - if the country of original is covered over its a giveaway. The boxes are easy tells from the front (grey border is usually different) and the back - copyright blanked over as in your example.

[Ravagecat]

When I first started collecting I purchased a MIB G1 Prowl with prowl still sealed to the bubble - only when I got it the home I found someone had just put a classics gold boxed prowl inside the original G1 box. Not that i'm still bitter about it or anything :D

There are plenty of these Chinese issues floating around in Australia - always check the manufactures stamp - if the country of original is covered over its a giveaway. The boxes are easy tells from the front (grey border is usually different) and the back - copyright blanked over as in your example.

I would of been really annoyed about that too, and you have every right to be bitter! Luckily it was at least still a toy made by Hasbro. I shudder to think how many unsuspecting people have purchased for top dollar KO transformers shoved in genuine G1 boxes :eek::mad:

[Sinnertwin]

Sorry for the late reply, Ravagecat :o i managed to find Ramjet, along with a few others & had a good look. You've covered the copyright stamping & notice ( Ramjet's reads: ©1985 Hasbro Bradley, Inc. , Pawtucket R.I. 02861 USA All rights reserved.) which are identical & 5FDP's supplied a photo of the stickers, but the one thing that i found really odd is that none of the G1 figures i purchased in the 90's have these stickers on them. They were purchased from about 4 or 5 different sources, so it does look like the retailers must of peeled them off.

[Ravagecat]

Sorry for the late reply, Ravagecat :o i managed to find Ramjet, along with a few others & had a good look. You've covered the copyright stamping & notice ( Ramjet's reads: ©1985 Hasbro Bradley, Inc. , Pawtucket R.I. 02861 USA All rights reserved.) which are identical & 5FDP's supplied a photo of the stickers, but the one thing that i found really odd is that none of the G1 figures i purchased in the 90's have these stickers on them. They were purchased from about 4 or 5 different sources, so it does look like the retailers must of peeled them off.


No problem ST, so can I confirm on your actual toy of Ramjet that he has the straight edge Large Decepticon logos and the copyright stamp on the outside of his leg has the Takara Japan part blocked over?

...and does anyone know if the purpose of these re-issues <cough> was just Hasbro wanting to get more Transformers out there but were able to get them made cheaper in China?? They're not KO's right?
What I'm gathering is that they are legit and they started off using the original G1 boxes (with modifications) then that lead them to changing to the Gold box versions right?? Any info from more knowledgeable bots would be appreciated :)

[Sky Shadow]

Sorry for the late reply, Ravagecat :o i managed to find Ramjet, along with a few others & had a good look. You've covered the copyright stamping & notice ( Ramjet's reads: ©1985 Hasbro Bradley, Inc. , Pawtucket R.I. 02861 USA All rights reserved.) which are identical & 5FDP's supplied a photo of the stickers, but the one thing that i found really odd is that none of the G1 figures i purchased in the 90's have these stickers on them. They were purchased from about 4 or 5 different sources, so it does look like the retailers must of peeled them off.

I'm pretty sure they were shipped to Australia without the stickers.

[Skullcruncher]

...and does anyone know if the purpose of these re-issues <cough> was just Hasbro wanting to get more Transformers out there but were able to get them made cheaper in China?? They're not KO's right?

Their not KO's but the price between them and 'real' G1's is significant. Personally if I ever come across one I try and move it on as soon as possible.

[DELTAprime]

Personally I'd be happy to get a Chinese reissue TF as they are legit, but only if it's labeled as a Chinese reissue and the seller isn't trying to pass it off as the original western release version.

[Sinnertwin]

Here you go, RC :)

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/CAM00163_zps306e1d56.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/CAM00163_zps306e1d56.jpg.html)



http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/CAM00164_zps5db2fb15.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/CAM00164_zps5db2fb15.jpg.html)


http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/CAM00165_zpsce9321e6.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/CAM00165_zpsce9321e6.jpg.html)

[Skullcruncher]

Nice pic sinnertwin, yeah the grey border is definitely a lot smoother on these guys.

[Ravagecat]

Thank you to all that provided pics and answers :)
I have come away from this a little wiser, a little bitter and had some nagging mysteries solved so happy about that...

[DELTAprime]

I jus realised I'm missing the first movie Classic Camaro Bumblebee from my collection. Not sure how I never picked him up for the Bumblebee section of my display:confused:. Anyway TFwiki says there was a remould of him that resulted in him breaking easily unless you hit a button, what are they talking about:confused:

[Paulbot]

The original, like very first release, in the US had this breaking problem. I got mine in LA from an early release and it happened to mine. I don't think the production runs that made it to Aus had the same fault. The later rereleased (like the evolution of a hero 2 pack) are fine but included warnings. "Press button before converting".

[Omega Metro]

I jus realised I'm missing the first movie Classic Camaro Bumblebee from my collection. Not sure how I never picked him up for the Bumblebee section of my display:confused:. Anyway TFwiki says there was a remould of him that resulted in him breaking easily unless you hit a button, what are they talking about:confused:

Mine came with Barricade deluxe. I'm trying remember if it ever had a Autobot button on the bonnet. I have no idea where it is so can't find it to see.:D

[Sinnertwin]

I jus realised I'm missing the first movie Classic Camaro Bumblebee from my collection. Not sure how I never picked him up for the Bumblebee section of my display:confused:. Anyway TFwiki says there was a remould of him that resulted in him breaking easily unless you hit a button, what are they talking about:confused:

There's a button on his bonnet just under the windscreen that once pressed, unlocks the front portion of the car for transformation

[GoktimusPrime]

The very first production run of that toy reportedly had a problem that resulted in breakages, but I don't think Australia ever received any of those figures. I haven't heard of that problem happening with any of those toys that were purchased outside of the United States. Hasbro fixed the problem ASAP and all subsequent productions didn't have that issue AFAIK.

[griffin]

The original, like very first release, in the US had this breaking problem. I got mine in LA from an early release and it happened to mine. I don't think the production runs that made it to Aus had the same fault. The later rereleased (like the evolution of a hero 2 pack) are fine but included warnings. "Press button before converting".


The very first production run of that toy reportedly had a problem that resulted in breakages, but I don't think Australia ever received any of those figures. I haven't heard of that problem happening with any of those toys that were purchased outside of the United States. Hasbro fixed the problem ASAP and all subsequent productions didn't have that issue AFAIK.

It's like Deja vu....

[DELTAprime]

The interview with the designer of MP-1 - MP-9 raises a question.

If some parts of the MP-1 mould were unusable and had to be remade after 8 years of use how is the G1 Convoy mould still in such good shape after 30 years?

I hope they haven't made new moulds over the years, that would make the reissues no better than KO's in some peoples eyes.

[Sinnertwin]

The G1 OP they're using these days isn't from the original version either.

http://fredsworkshop.com/vprime.html

[Sky Shadow]

If some parts of the MP-1 mould were unusable and had to be remade after 8 years of use how is the G1 Convoy mould still in such good shape after 30 years?

I'm pretty sure the original mould wasn't in good shape after thirty weeks. There have been countless G1 Optimus moulds. And G2 Optimus Prime moulds. The 'current' one is a Frankenstein's monster of various moulds past.

[GoktimusPrime]

The post 2000 G1 Optimus Prime reissue is mostly the 1993 G2 Optimus Prime mould with reconstructed arms. According to Takara, rebuilding the arms was extremely expensive, although we've seen HasTak make their money back from that venture by re-reissuing this figure so many times! :o

[Transformer mum]

Dear experienced transformer peoples.
My 14 yr old son has been collecting transformers since he was three (ok I promised him a thunderbird and couldn't find one and ended up with a transformer).
My problem is that he has saved birthday money etc to buy PX01 genesis from robot world. We picked it up from the post office this weekend only to find a box with everything but the transformer in it. It came from Steven Chen in Hong Kong. Has anyone had any dealings with these people. Have we just wasted our money. We have advised PayPal but have no idea what has happened.
Not had much to do with the internet, and this is my first question I have ever asked, yes I am IT challenged, but the look on his face (and mine) has galvanised me Into action.
No idea whether this is even the right place to start, but here's hoping.
Thanks. Transformer mum

[kurdt_the_goat]

Steven Chen is from Robot Kingdom (http://www.robotkingdom.com/contacts/index/enquiry), a reputable site many of us here use, so i would expect them to help you sort it out if you contacted them direct.

[Verno]

Could someone provide me with a scan from Windblade #4 of the two particular characters that a fan like myself might have an interest in seeing?

I don't want to give spoilers, so I've made that as ambiguous as I could...

[DELTAprime]

Could someone provide me with a scan from Windblade #4 of the two particular characters that a fan like myself might have an interest in seeing?

I don't want to give spoilers, so I've made that as ambiguous as I could...

How about just going to Comixology and buying a copy instead of pirating.

[tinyJazz]

How about just going to Comixology and buying a copy instead of pirating.

I don't think two panels counts as pirating

[Verno]

I don't think two panels counts as pirating

I like you.

[Tober]

Dear experienced transformer peoples.
My 14 yr old son has been collecting transformers since he was three (ok I promised him a thunderbird and couldn't find one and ended up with a transformer).
My problem is that he has saved birthday money etc to buy PX01 genesis from robot world. We picked it up from the post office this weekend only to find a box with everything but the transformer in it. It came from Steven Chen in Hong Kong. Has anyone had any dealings with these people. Have we just wasted our money. We have advised PayPal but have no idea what has happened.
Not had much to do with the internet, and this is my first question I have ever asked, yes I am IT challenged, but the look on his face (and mine) has galvanised me Into action.
No idea whether this is even the right place to start, but here's hoping.
Thanks. Transformer mum

Strange that the robot could be missing. It's really BIG. Expensive too.

If it comes to a dispute you will need every bit of information and communication you have. If you have the shipping invoice (papers attached to the box) check the weight - I could see that as being a huge piece of evidence to prove weather the robot was in there when the parcel was sent.

Where exactly did you order from?