Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[Gutsman Heavy]

G1 its the black costume.
in the Avengers crossover it appears to be his regular PJs (ie; red&blue)

[GoktimusPrime]

Gutsman Heavy is right.

To elaborate - Spiderman appears in G1 US#3 in his black symbiote costume. The events of Transformers #3 occurs shortly before Spiderman #258. At this stage the Transformers (primarily the Decepticons) activities have drawn the world's attention, although S.H.I.E.L.D. (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Strategic_Hazard_Intervention_Espionage_Logistics_ Directorate_(Earth-616)) seemed surprisingly dismissive* of the Decepticon threat!!

http://www.tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/covers/us03.jpghttp://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider-ManC/AmazingSpider-Man258_small.jpg

In the Transformers-Avengers crossover Spiderman is a member of the Avengers, and yeah, sporting his traditional red & blue tights. ;)

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/1/1b/New_Avengers_Transformers_Vol_1_4.jpg/300px-New_Avengers_Transformers_Vol_1_4.jpg

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*Nick Fury's response to the Decepticon threat:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/e/e5/Nicholas.jpg/180px-Nicholas.jpg

IMO Nick Fury became way cooler in the Ultimate and movie universes.
L: Ultimate Fury, R: movie Fury (as seen in the Iron Man movie)
http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2007/11/ultimatenickfury.jpghttp://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn318/moviegoer2009/Nick-Fury.jpg
I doubt Sam Jackson Fury would've sat on his laurels with Decepticons rampaging about...

[Paulbot]

That Nick Fury quote makes me wonder why there was never a Transformers/Godzilla crossover? :D

(I think Godzilla's adventures in the Marvel Universe are still canon... but no one is ever going to mention them again.)

[liegeprime]

That Nick Fury quote makes me wonder why there was never a Transformers/Godzilla crossover? :D

(I think Godzilla's adventures in the Marvel Universe are still canon... but no one is ever going to mention them again.)

GODZILLA is in the Marvelverse?
Hmm that's interesting. That's also something Im keen to see again. Think of all the destruction and death oooh blood soaked sneakers!

[Paulbot]

GODZILLA is in the Marvelverse?
Hmm that's interesting. That's also something Im keen to see again. Think of all the destruction and death oooh blood soaked sneakers!

A summary of Godzilla's adventures (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godzilla.htm). As you see SHIELD was all over the series which is why Fury is dismissive in that picture Goktimus showed: He's had enough of dealing with giant licensed properties from Japan ;)

[Bartrim]

I doubt Sam Jackson Fury would've sat on his laurels with Decepticons rampaging about...

"I'm sick and tired of these mother f**king decepticons rampaging about in mother f**king Oregon!":p

Sound right?

[liegeprime]

oooh nice link Paulbot, thanks! ...reads happily of the destruction Godzilla is wreaking.....

[Pulse]

"I'm sick and tired of these mother f**king decepticons rampaging about in mother f**king Oregon!":p

Sound right?

They'd have to work something about his wallet (http://pimpwiz.com/2005/06/pulp-fiction-jules-winnfields-wallet.shtml) in there too... :D

[Gutsman Heavy]

Do the Diaclone toys have names? More specifically does the red Sunstreaker have a name?

[SilverDragon]

That Nick Fury quote makes me wonder why there was never a Transformers/Godzilla crossover? :D

There was. It's named Trypticon. :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Har! :D


(I think Godzilla's adventures in the Marvel Universe are still canon... but no one is ever going to mention them again.)
Godzilla @ Marvel Wikia (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Godzilla_(Earth-616)) :)


Do the Diaclone toys have names? More specifically does the red Sunstreaker have a name?
They do... but remember that Diaclones are meant to be piloted mecha like in Macross, so they have names just like Macross mecha have name, but they're not sentient living robots by any means.

Sunstreaker was called Countach-LP500S/Super Tuning (http://www.diaclone.net/orid/dia036/index.html). No separate names for the yellow and red versions.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Thanks gok, I was hoping there was a good name for a Red Sunstreaker since if I do a head swap to make Universe Tigertrack I'll have a red Sunnie leftover.

[Paulbot]

Thanks gok, I was hoping there was a good name for a Red Sunstreaker since if I do a head swap to make Universe Tigertrack I'll have a red Sunnie leftover.

I'm doing that head swap too. I'm calling Red Sunstreaker "Spin-Out" after the original name for "Sunstreaker".

[Gutsman Heavy]

ohh nice idea Paulbot!

[Kyle]

Just noticed this discussion.


Just some questions about the Cliffjumper upgrade kit.
- Do you guys think this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=370088034548) is legit?
- The seller says that this is from the second production of the kit. I was under the impression that there was only 1 run (hence the price you see nowadays)
- and finally, that's a good price right?

No. There was never a "second production of the kit".


It's a bootleg, and apparently it's a crap bootleg.

Pricing: The REAL one isn't worth that much. I mean, you can spend that much money on better things, or hell, get yourself an extra City Commander set. From what I recall, Fan's Project themselves artificially created the ridiculous prices for the Cliffjumper set that we see now by jacking up the price every time somebody enquired about it. At least, that's what people on the major TF boards reported.


Wouldn't saying that about Fans Project without solid evidence be classed as slanderous? This is more a question for our Legal Eagle on the board:o.

Thanks 1orion2many.

I would take what "people on the major TF boards reported" with a grain of salt. Many of them still cannot tell the difference between FansProject and TFClub.

To set the record straight:

FansProject = kit designer/maker (Cliffjumper, City Commander, AT/BT Gas Tank)

TFClub = fan club in mainland China
TFC Toys = TFClub's own toy brand (Movie Optimus Prime sword, Allspark Cube, Starscream Coronation kit, Battle Rollar)

FansProject created the 300 Cliffjumper kits, but they weren't the one doing the selling. The 300 kits went to HK-TF, me, a Canadian friend, and TFClub.
Three of the four: HK-TF, me, and the Canadian friend sure as hell did not "jack up the price every time somebody enquired about it", unless you considered my price here on the board USD $24.10 (airmail registered included) to be ridiculous.

If I was to artificially create the ridiculous prices, I would have sold all mine on eBay, not here on the board for USD $24.10 for the fans. I am upset that FansProject's reputation has been dragged down.

[Kyle]

Venksta from TFW2005 already summed it up very well.
(Post #18: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/190035-knock-off-cliffjumper-upgrade-kit-warning-2.html )


Actually, you are wrong about them raising the price. FansProject always intended the CJ kits to be sold at $30. But they themselves did not sell the kits. They gave them all to the different clubs in china and hong kong to sell. They had suggested to the clubs to sell the kits at $30 each. However, they didn't have control over some people being charged $90 or more. Since some sellers noticed the demand, they decided to make money off of it, then do fans a favor.

[Kyle]

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/190035-knock-off-cliffjumper-upgrade-kit-warning-3.html


Not true, I emailed fansproject directly about getting their 2nd run CJ kit and they said it'll be $120. So yes, they increased it from $30, to $90, to $120. $120 is still better than $300 it goes on ebay but a far cry from the initial $30 price point.


Did you email them from their official website, FansProject, or did you contact TFClub, a different group from FansProject, who sold the CJ kits. People get confused between TFClub and FansProject. FansProject never sold the Cliffjumper kits. They gave them to the different TF clubs in China and Hong Kong to sell. Like I stated early, FansProject wanted the CJ kits to be sold for $30 always. The sellers decided to jack the price up on their own, when they saw the demand.


I stand corrected, I emailed TFClub. I thought they are one in the same.


No worries. Everyone actually thinks the same about them both.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah it sucks... these guys are making kits like this primarily as a service for fans by fans - like fansubbing. They charge money because it costs money to make this stuff, but afaik they're not out to make a profit. I hope that FansProject's image will recover from this. :(

[Pulse]

I'm sure it will :). It's not like they're the ones flogging 'em off for $320 each (http://cgi.ebay.com/TFC-EX01-Classics-Cliffjumper-Upgrade-Conversion-Kit_W0QQitemZ150297787035QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 50297787035&_trkparms=72%3A1209%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14).

By the way, Do you think this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Classics-Cliffjumper-custom-upgrade-set_W0QQitemZ370091632523QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 70091632523&_trkparms=72%3A1209%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) is genuine?

[Kyle]

I'm sure it will :). It's not like they're the ones flogging 'em off for $320 each (http://cgi.ebay.com/TFC-EX01-Classics-Cliffjumper-Upgrade-Conversion-Kit_W0QQitemZ150297787035QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 50297787035&_trkparms=72%3A1209%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14).

By the way, Do you think this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Classics-Cliffjumper-custom-upgrade-set_W0QQitemZ370091632523QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 70091632523&_trkparms=72%3A1209%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) is genuine?

I don't think so. :(

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/190035-knock-off-cliffjumper-upgrade-kit-warning.html

[Pulse]

Thanks for that Kyle :). I'm sure someone will confuse it with the real one some day... :rolleyes:

[FFN]

Just noticed this discussion.



No. There was never a "second production of the kit".





Thanks 1orion2many.

I would take what "people on the major TF boards reported" with a grain of salt. Many of them still cannot tell the difference between FansProject and TFClub.

To set the record straight:

FansProject = kit designer/maker (Cliffjumper, City Commander, AT/BT Gas Tank)

TFClub = fan club in mainland China
TFC Toys = TFClub's own toy brand (Movie Optimus Prime sword, Allspark Cube, Starscream Coronation kit, Battle Rollar)

FansProject created the 300 Cliffjumper kits, but they weren't the one doing the selling. The 300 kits went to HK-TF, me, a Canadian friend, and TFClub.
Three of the four: HK-TF, me, and the Canadian friend sure as hell did not "jack up the price every time somebody enquired about it", unless you considered my price here on the board USD $24.10 (airmail registered included) to be ridiculous.

If I was to artificially create the ridiculous prices, I would have sold all mine on eBay, not here on the board for USD $24.10 for the fans. I am upset that FansProject's reputation has been dragged down. I'm sorry! :o

[hungta]

Has Revelation 4 (Sideswipe) been released yet?

[GoktimusPrime]

I went to my local comic store on Monday and picked up the latest ish of All Hail Megatron - no sign of Spotlight: Sideswipe. :/

[hungta]

Thanks, Goktimus. I went to get that and Deadpool #2 as well this week. Thought I missed it.

[GoktimusPrime]

That's what standing orders are for dude. I've had mine since G1. :)

[hungta]

I should probably start doing that.

I was looking at some of the movie toys (Ironhide and Blackout) today and thought they looked ok.

Does the automorph gimmick get in the way of fun with these guys?

I don't have any movie toys so I don't really know what it's like.

[GoktimusPrime]

Nope. That's the awesomesauceness of the automorph gimmick - it doesn't impede with articulation or playability! :D

Here are my video reviews of movie Blackout and Ironhide:
Blackout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWalam4-38) (please note the video response)
Ironhide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZljAEE4pog)

:)

[FFN]

Very early releases of Blackout had problems with the Automorphing. The gears slipped so you could quite easily end up with one that couldn't transform back into vehicle mode properly.

[autobreadticon]

yo, i have a few questions about
Optimus Prime Voice Changer Helmet

1. how much?
2. Versions that appeared at Australian retails
3. Were there any faults in the helmet realized after purchasing?

[Paulbot]

yo, i have a few questions about
Optimus Prime Voice Changer Helmet

1. how much?
2. Versions that appeared at Australian retails
3. Were there any faults in the helmet realized after purchasing?

If I recall correctly:

1. About $60
2. Two: one with Gary Chalk's voice, one with Peter Cullen's (and noted Real Movie Voice)
3. Not that I recall.

[autobreadticon]

you know i was telling you i spotted one instore, the voice functions were not working proberly due to flat batteries , it was priced at $40 which i knew was a little strange, also how can i tell which voice actor version it is?

[Paulbot]

you know i was telling you i spotted one instore, the voice functions were not working proberly due to flat batteries , it was priced at $40 which i knew was a little strange, also how can i tell which voice actor version it is?

There is a tell in the packaging: one says "Featuring the REAL Movie Voice" that's the Peter Cullen one

See here (http://home.comcast.net/~azerothnews/TF_Helmet.jpg)

[GoktimusPrime]

They also sound very different.
Click here to listen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6osMmK99deI)

[JuzMel]

Hi can we get someone to post the differences between:

1) Hasbro Universe Silverbolt / Takara Universe Silverbolt
2) Hasbro Universe Onslaught / Takara Universe Onslaught
3) Hasbro Universe Powerglide / Takara Universe Powerglide

Photos of packaging and figures will be greatly appreciated. Tks

[Autocon]

my fox kids repaints of transmetal rhinox n airazor came with TWIST TIES!!!

when did BW start getting packaged with twist ties!!

[Bartrim]

I've got the TF:TM "special edition" madman 2 disc release and I noticed that when Optimus takes out the cons in autobot city I noticed there is no noise when he fires his weapon.

Anyone else notice this?

[GoktimusPrime]

when did BW start getting packaged with twist ties!!
Since Generation 2. Took me forever to untie my G2 Laser Optimus Prime. (-_-)

[jaydisc]

Anyone tried or seen a mod for removing the missile launchers from Leader Bulkhead?

[blackie]

what are the button thingy's on the side of animated blitzwing' hands for?

[jaydisc]

I suspect that they're there to simply add bulk to his forearms. Any other theories?

[blackie]

thanks jay, i cant seem to find a use for them :P

new one:
whats the going price for an overlord (complete) these days?

[STL]

thanks jay, i cant seem to find a use for them :P

new one:
whats the going price for an overlord (complete) these days?

You can get a good boxed one for around $450-500 USD. Loose is about $200USD.

[liegeprime]

thanks jay, i cant seem to find a use for them :P

new one:
whats the going price for an overlord (complete) these days?

Well there's actually one in the Australian Ebay Im watching now ( in my watchlist) :D:D but yeah price is what STL mentioned

[Pulse]

new one:
whats the going price for an overlord (complete) these days?


You can get a good boxed one for around $450-500 USD. Loose is about $200USD.

Yeah, that's around about what I paid for mine :)
(but the current state of the dollar may mean yours might set you back a fair bit more... :()

[GoktimusPrime]

blackie: got Masterforce? ;)
(if so, do you think Mega's hot? I'd (censored) her. ;))

[Kyle]

blackie: got Masterforce? ;)
(if so, do you think Mega's hot? I'd (censored) her. ;))

*shudder*

[FFN]

Hi can we get someone to post the differences between:

1) Hasbro Universe Silverbolt / Takara Universe Silverbolt
2) Hasbro Universe Onslaught / Takara Universe Onslaught
3) Hasbro Universe Powerglide / Takara Universe Powerglide

Photos of packaging and figures will be greatly appreciated. Tks

Silverbolt
Hasbro
- Light grey plastic on jet, lower arms and legs
- Burgundy torso
- Bright red biceps, landing gear and missile
- Dark grey shoulders, thighs and head

TakaraTomy
- Bright white plastic on jet, arms, legs and head
- Red torso, biceps landing gear and missile

Onslaught
Hasbro
- Green/grey plastic
- Black head with silver decos
- Single pulse siren (defective)

TakaraTomy
- Dark blue/green plastic
- Green/blue head with silver face plate (like the cartoon)
- Siren will now play as long as you hold down the button (fixed)

Powerglide
Hasbro
- Predominantly white plastic with red trim

TakaraTomy
- Reverse coloured, so it's red plastic with white trim


Packaging is exactly the same. USA Edition just means they don't want to make new Japanese packaging.

[jaydisc]

Onslaught
Hasbro
- Single pulse siren (defective)

TakaraTomy
- Siren will now play as long as you hold down the button (fixed)

Oooh! Didn't know that.

[griffin]

Damn. Onslaught is the only one I was prepared to skip, as it wasn't different enough with the colours to me. The sound feature on the Hasbro one sucks though, as I figured it was meant to have a longer sounding siren.

Thanks for the list though FFN, as I saw the request, but wasn't keen on trying to find the answers, or guess at them without having the JP ones yet to compare.

[blackie]

blackie: got Masterforce? ;)
(if so, do you think Mega's hot? I'd (censored) her. ;))

oh yeah gok shes HOT :P

[dirge]

Silverbolt
Hasbro
- Light grey plastic on jet, lower arms and legs


Looks blue to me?

It's interesting to read about the "fixed" siren on Onslaught. I don't especially care for electronic gimmicks in general, but it's nice to know that Takara either 1) realised that there was a defect or 2) realised the idea needed some... encouragement.

[FFN]

Looks pretty grey to me.


Damn. Onslaught is the only one I was prepared to skip, as it wasn't different enough with the colours to me. The sound feature on the Hasbro one sucks though, as I figured it was meant to have a longer sounding siren.

Thanks for the list though FFN, as I saw the request, but wasn't keen on trying to find the answers, or guess at them without having the JP ones yet to compare. If you're happy with how Universe Onslaught looks and don't particularly care about his siren in the first place, then just get whichever one fits your budget. Unfortunately, the way the dollar is now you'll pay far more than you would have a couple of weeks ago :(

From what I can tell, the Japanese versions of these toys use more or less the same paint operations, layouts and tampographs (well, other than Onslaught's head), though the colours may be different.

[GoktimusPrime]

*shudder*
C'mooon! Okay, I don't like Mega's hair cut - and it's not because it's green... animé chicks can look good with green hair.

e.g.:
http://mx.geocities.com/ben_zaa_mx/macross/miriya.gif <--HAWT! :D

I just don't like the style... looks too much like... Guile! :p

But she's got a mad bod. :D


oh yeah gok shes HOT :P
That's what I'm talkin' about! *high-fives*

I don't like her hat though... the rest of her "Hogwarts" get up is okay. d:
You know she had to be in Slytherin House. ;)

[gamblor916]

C'mooon! Okay, I don't like Mega's hair cut - and it's not because it's green... animé chicks can look good with green hair.
QFT!

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5479/aphrodite01yo2.jpg

[autobreadticon]

yo, can you use the robot replica's accessories on the corresponding character deluxe (or voyager) figures.

I saw the barricade rotating wheel and wondered if you could somehow attach it to the deluxe figure, thanks

[Autocon]

when will universe cheetor and dinobot be released?

[Paulbot]

when will universe cheetor and dinobot be released?

According to the Hasbro Toy Shop, Cheetor is due out 22 Dec in the US. Dinobot will not be out until next year at this stage.

[TheDirtyDigger]

I have a G1 Shockwave in excellent condition. Almost pristine I would say. To say I really love the figure is a bit of an understatement as it is just about one of my favourite all time moulds.
Anyways he always had this little whiny noise going on when I pulled the trigger so today I finally lashed out on a brand new Duracell alkaline 9v battery.

Whoa!:eek:

The siren sound burst my eardrums while the light up gun burnt my retinas out. I am now blind and deaf but it was so totally worth it. I love my Shockwave just that much more now.

Anyone else love their Shockwave so much?

[GoktimusPrime]

Since 1985! I had lots of fun running around playing with my Shackwave. I got told off by a security guard at Woolworths once because I was "shooting" people with Shockwave. Bah!

Yeah, it's pretty loud. Super Fire Convoy is possibly louder (if not on par) though. FIRE!

[Pulse]

Yeah, brand new batteries really wakes a TF up from its snooze... :D

(There was this one time where I hit the trigger when I was upstairs & I remember getting told off from the person downstairs... :o)

[Tober]

Anyone tried or seen a mod for removing the missile launchers from Leader Bulkhead?

Yep, this from a MacrossWorld member. He didn't post pics of alt mode after the mod tho, even when I asked :(




ask and you shall receive :)

with all kibble removed
http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/bulkhead1.jpg

just with missiles
http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/bulkhead2.jpg

just missiles again
http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/bulkhead3.jpg

"riot shield"
http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/bulkhead4.jpg

and here's a close-up of the hole the bits leave when you take em out. Big, but hidden away nicely on the back of the arm, so impossible to see from most angles.
http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/bulkhead5.jpg




and just for fun: Prowl on Prowl :P

http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/prowl1.jpg

http://mobiusdesigns.com/pics/prowl2.jpg

[loophole]

I love my Shockwave too he's great fun, nice and loud too so i can annoy EVERYBODY with him :D

[King Atlas]

Soooo, the other day I was thinking about getting the Beast Wars "Sourcebook(s)". I looked around for good prices and found some. But first, I checked a few sites, and apparently it's not what it was ment to be (and by that I mean a disappointment). So my question is, are these worth buying or not?

[GoktimusPrime]

tbh... not really.

Items of notes and errors (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Beast_Wars_Sourcebook#Items_of_note_and_errors)
(quote)
Art and coloring errors
* Blackarachnia's images are solid gold-orange and black.
* BB is similarly colored in nothing but gold-orange, with a little white.
* Dinobot's colors are based on the Beast Wars 10th Anniversary release of the Dinobot toy, minus the blue kneecaps and face. In the trade version, Dinobot was given completely new art for robot and beast modes.
* Gimlet, Lio Junior, Magnaboss II, and Motorarm are all incorrectly colored as their Hasbro mold-partners Sea Clamp, Prowl, Magnaboss, and Ramhorn.
* The hind legs of Magmatron's combined-beast mode are incorrectly colored as if they belonged to Skysaur, when they are actually the robot-mode arms from his Seasaur portion.
* All of the robot modes drawn by Frank Milkovich are drawn almost entirely mechanical, including all of the organic beast mode parts.
* Speaking of which, Milkovich's renditions of both versions of Rhinox, Scissor Boy, Silverbolt, Tigerhawk, and Tripledacus all have visible pencil sketch lines remaining. Additionally, Tigerhawk even has the edge of a comic draft page left underneath, as the word "issue________" can be clearly seen in one of his wing cannon barrels. Tripledacus has an edge guide corner visible in his foremost foot. It is conveniently covered by the IDW logo on the cover of Sourcebook 4.
* Ravage's "original" Predacon body has his Transmetal 2 head.
* Not really an error, but certainly bizarre: Scissor Boy is just a mirrored version of Powerpinch's art, with his minor detailing changed. At that point, why not just draw entirely new art?
* Silverbolt II has his beast mode head for a face in robot mode. His robot head is omitted entirely.
* Transmetal Tarantulas is colored in the black and white hues of his later "Fox Kids" repaint, instead of his original show-accurate colors. (actually the Fox!Kids colours were Tarantulas' colours after he was reanimated by the Vok power he'd absorbed, so it is canonically correct although more obscure - Gok)
* And why are K-9's robot mode parts showing in the undercarriage? (toy accuracy? - Gok)

Divergence from original sources
* The books consistently misuse the term "technorganic" to describe Beast Wars-era characters, when the term should only properly apply to post-reformatting Cybertronians from Beast Machines or later.
* Despite a stated policy to not diverge from the names of originally Japanese characters, some names have been altered, such as Elphaorpha to "Elephorca", Blentron to Blendtron, and Tasmania Kid to "Tasmanian Kid". The Ascending disregarded "Tasmanian Kid", but kept "Elephorca".
* The book makes alterations to the personalities and intelligence levels of a fair number of the Japanese characters. Understandably, the cartoonishly stereotypical "Frito Bandito" aspect of the Jointrons was dropped, but their core personalities stayed basically the same. However, there are numerous instances of fundamental changes to characters. Mantis, a cold-blooded killer, is described as a smiling friendly guy. Diver is no longer a skittish coward. Hardhead is no longer dumb as toast. Infinitely loyal Guiledart is described as an utterly distrustful schemer. Moon isn't even remotely comedic. Ben Yee is on record as saying these changes were intentional and designed to fit certain characters better into the overall feel of the merged Japanese/American Beast Wars universe the books were creating.
* Airazor's motto is listed as "She swoops to conquer!", but her actual line of dialogue from the episode had been "She stoops to conquer!" in "Call of the Wild", a reference to both the 18th-Century romantic Irish play of the same name and the hunting dive used by peregrine falcons (her altmode), called a "stoop" only in reference to that specific breed of falcon.
* Despite being Scuba's cousin in the original material, Sourcebook states that Ikard is his brother.
* The book contradicts Injector's original toy bio by saying he puts on a show of liking his beast mode, but really thinks it is ugly and he's ashamed of it.
* Magmatron's three individual beast modes are claimed to have "only loose connections to actual reptilian lifeforms", seemingly ignorant of the existence of Giganotosaurus, Elasmosaurus and Quetzalcoatlus.
* Ramulus is described as "even-tempered," whereas his toy bio and previous comic appearances portray him as a hot-headed jerk.

Editing errors
* The artists' credits sections in the front of the books have numerous inaccuracies. Notably, Dan Khanna is credited with numerous pieces he did not draw (Dan himself confirmed this), including Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Hardhead, K-9 and Killerpunch. Blackarachnia was likely drawn by Nick Roche, and the Trade Paperback version identified Simon Williams as the artist for K-9 and Killer Punch with Jamie Snell as the artist behind Hardhead.
* The alphabetical order of characters gets out of whack in numerous places. For instance, Scourge is absent from the third issue, even though it ends with Silverbolt, who should be many characters down the list in alphabetical order. He was included in the fourth issue instead.
* Characters are not consistently placed in subgroups. Drancron is apparently not a Blendtron, nor is Longrack a member of the Pack. The Trade Paperback version meanwhile neglected to list Autostinger as an Auto Roller. On the flip side, Scourge is given the subgroup Transmetal 2, in both versions.
* The entries of Beast Wars II characters are inconsistent on whether the factions are Maximals and Predacons or "Cybertrons" and "Destrons". The trade attempted to explain this by including different meanings for the terms in its glossary.
* Issue 2 has a disproportionate number of pointless and incorrectly used parenthetical asides and additions, and sections of sentence between dashes for no good reason. For example:
Hydra: "The trouble is, everyone-who's ever had anything to do with Hydra-knows what to expect..."
Injector: "...his ungainly new (Fuzor) form..."
* Gigastorm's "Abilities" section ends with a bizarre sentence fragment: ".. . built into its fists.built into his right arm."
* Not so much an error, but the first two issues feature cover images of characters not in those issues. Magamatron is on #1, but his bio is in #2, Torca is on #2 but in issue 4. (However, "Elephorca" is in #2, so it's entirely possible the art is supposed to be him, and it's just miscolored.)
* Ravage's cassette mode is labeled "NAME".
* The back cover of issue 3 states profiles are listed from "Optimus Minor" to "Silverbolt" when the volume in fact starts with Onyx Primal.
* Terrorsaur's name is misspelled as "Terrosaur" in his page's header.
* Wolfang's name is misspelled as "Wolfgang" in his page's header and on the back cover. ("Mozart, Maximise!" - Gok)
* The trade paperback version leaves out Galvatron's weakness, and made Break's Primary function "PRIMARY FUNCTION." For God's sake.
* That's right, they got rid of some mistakes but made more. Sheesh.

Omissions
* A glossary similar to that of the final issue of Dreamwave's More Than Meets The Eye was promised by Ben Yee to explain oddities like the inclusion of Moon with the absence of Artemis, but no such index was included.
* The Egg Beasts are notably and intentionally absent from the book, as is McDonald's "the 'Lion Head Optimus Primal' figure". Boo.
* Claw Jaw's bio is also lacking any mention of his "Transmetal" form (which was a pack-in redeco of his original toy and included a Beast Wars video in various European markets).
* Quite a few characters with triple-changer abilities do not have their tertiary mode pictured, though art was often produced.
* Characters who have had multiple bodies, such as Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Blackarachnia, and Megatron, are depicted with an inconsistent mishmash of their respective bodies' modes, with absolutely no profiles managing to include artwork of every mode of each body. This issue was apparently fixed in the trade for everybody (including Cybershark, of all 'bots) except Megatron, who still lacks any post-Season 1 artwork.
(/quote)

Honestly... you can find more accurate (and correct) information about BW characters through Google - hell, even TFwiki is more accurate!! :p

[King Atlas]

Wow thats a lot of info. So many mistakes, the whole thing seems like a huge waste of time. Thanks gok. Guess its a no for me, though I did like where they were going with the idea....

[autobreadticon]

yo, can you use the robot replica's accessories on the corresponding character deluxe (or voyager) figures.

I saw the barricade rotating wheel and wondered if you could somehow attach it to the deluxe figure, thanks

aii.. :D any1 have any answers for me?? before the BIGW sale ends ;)

[Autocon]

Wow thats a lot of info. So many mistakes, the whole thing seems like a huge waste of time. Thanks gok. Guess its a no for me, though I did like where they were going with the idea....


dont get the individaul ones!!! the combined one takes alot of errors out

[GoktimusPrime]

Yes but apparently the collected version is still full of lots of uncorrected mistakes and new mistakes! Honestly, save yourself the money and use Google... or post a question here if you want to know anything about Beast Wars. :)

[dirge]

This thread isn't as purty...

[GoktimusPrime]

This thread doesn't have BB coloured like Bumblebee! :p

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/6/65/SourcebookBB.jpg/180px-SourcebookBB.jpg "Even IDW confuses me with Bumblebee!"

[King Atlas]

Not that I wouldn't mind asking questions, but I just want a BW focused version or similar to Transformers: The Ultimate Guide. I love these kind of books.

[Autocon]

Yes but apparently the collected version is still full of lots of uncorrected mistakes and new mistakes! Honestly, save yourself the money and use Google... or post a question here if you want to know anything about Beast Wars. :)

NEW MISTAKES!!! how can that be:eek::eek::eek:

angry fist

[TheDirtyDigger]

yo, can you use the robot replica's accessories on the corresponding character deluxe (or voyager) figures.

I saw the barricade rotating wheel and wondered if you could somehow attach it to the deluxe figure, thanks


aii.. :D any1 have any answers for me?? before the BIGW sale ends ;)

With the right skills any kitbash is possible.

[griffin]

yo, can you use the robot replica's accessories on the corresponding character deluxe (or voyager) figures.

I saw the barricade rotating wheel and wondered if you could somehow attach it to the deluxe figure, thanks

It's possible, but doesn't stay if you move the figure at all. The Robot Replica figures have one replaceble limb, which usually unplugs the entire lower arm from a post at the end of the arm stump (which is the opposite of accessories having the post to plug into a fist hole). The hole at the end of the RR 'accessory' could plug onto the end of Barricade's thumb, but it sits there fairly loosely. I don't think other RR's could do anything with their toy counterpart though.

[jaydisc]

Yep, this from a MacrossWorld member. He didn't post pics of alt mode after the mod tho, even when I asked :(

Thanks Tober. Mission accomplished. Here's alt mode:

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/DSC04323.jpg

If only I could ditch the turret. Although I quite enjoy the gimmick of Bulkhead talking so it's a worthy sacrifice.

[STL]

I think it looks awkward without the guns/missiles.

[jaydisc]

I think it looks awkward without the guns/missiles.

I can't decide. I'd like to see it side by side with one with the missiles.

[Golden Phoenix]

I think it looks awkward without the guns/missiles.

It only looks awkward because it still has the turret on top. If you were to gut the torso and mod it so it works kind of like the Voyager head reveal and it would be streamlined and look better.

[GoktimusPrime]

I agree with STL, I think it looks awkward because of those oversized "Mini-Con port" like holes on the side. Maybe if you could file them down and then cover the holes somehow.

[STL]

I can't decide. I'd like to see it side by side with one with the missiles.

I'll bring my boy around when I pick up the goodies this week. Pretty excited about Laserbeak especially not to mention I'll knock down 1400 with them too! :D

[roller]

who are these micromasters?

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa210/Rollerforce/DSCN2442.jpg

thanks

[Firecracker]

Left to right...
Tailspin, Stormcloud, Nightflight, Greasepit & Tailwind.

Greasepit comes from a fuel depot base/playset.
Oh and they're all Decepticons minus Tailspin.

[TheDirtyDigger]

Does anyone here have Tf Animated Season 1 yet? (Official not pirated)

Is there a release date for Australia as well?

[Kyle]

Does anyone here have Tf Animated Season 1 yet? (Official not pirated)

Is there a release date for Australia as well?

Unlike the US, Australia is not getting full season boxsets. Instead, we're getting individual "volumes" with 3 - 4 episodes on each.

Out so far:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/800283

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/801181

Coming:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803324

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803338

[TheDirtyDigger]

Unlike the US, Australia is not getting full season boxsets. Instead, we're getting individual "volumes" with 3 - 4 episodes on each.

Out so far:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/800283

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/801181

Coming:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803324

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803338

So from that can I assume it's worth buying the boxset from the US now as it wont come out in Oz for a long, long time?

[Kyle]

So from that can I assume it's worth buying the boxset from the US now as it wont come out in Oz for a long, long time?

I think it's worth buying the US season 1 boxset, as you don't have to wait. Note however the season 1 boxset only contains the episodes in these 3 volumes but not the first 3 episode "movie":

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/801181
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803324
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/803338

So it's worth picking up the movie locally from say Big W or JB Hi-Fi:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/800283

[klystron]

In my quest to collect the G1 Dinobots I have ended up with 2 Grimlocks. To the best of my (humble) knowledge they look genuine - both have the Takara Japan copyright stuff on the inside of the robot's right leg. However one Grimy has Hasbro 1980 1984 written in the same spot on the left leg, and the other Grimy does not.
Does this mean one is a fake?
The one with writing on both legs has no rub sticker (or any stickers for that matter!). The other has a rub sticker.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me, or check their G1 Grimlock?

Cheers

[griffin]

If you imported the Grimlock from America, it could be a G2 release (not sure if they had date stamps though, but just guessing).
The varients website has a page on the dinobots, but doesn't mention date stamps though - http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vdinobot.html

[griffin]

Just been reading up on this webpage about the legit Chinese re-releases in the 90s (http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15) and the Grimlock could be from there, as they partially blanked out date stamps, but could have removed entire date stamps as well.
That page is also a small revelation for me, as it explains all the original boxed Gen1 toys that appeared in toystores here around 1992-93, just prior to the gold boxed classics and G2 toys. We had Soundwave, Cyclonus, Starscream, Ramjet, plus probably some others, and I was never sure what they were from (I mistakenly guessed that they might be test runs to see what toys to release for Classic and G2 series - but their release in China probably prompted Hasbro UK and US to keep using some in the next couple years for Classic and G2).
Ah well, mystery (to me) solved. And begs the question, if Hasbro UK or US didn't end up doing Classic and G2 lines, could we have seen more of the original G1 Chinese reissues release here (see that link above for all the ones released in China between 1989-1995).

[roller]

Was there ever a reason given as to why the majority of G2 characters in the comics were mostly still coloured like G1?


The fleetway comics get my thumbs up for being colour accurate:)

[GoktimusPrime]

Was there ever a reason given as to why the majority of G2 characters in the comics were mostly still coloured like G1?
Because with a few exceptions most G1 characters looked crap in G2 colours. Do you really want to see Grimlock in blue?! (no offence to iceburn's avatar) :p

[klystron]

Griffin - thanks for the links and info. had a read thru and after seeing all the takara/hasbro/date/copyright stamp variations, i think that both my grimys are legit. however, now i think my snarl might be one of those chinese re-release from the 90's though...

[TheDirtyDigger]

Why aren't Takara doing Animated figures.....or are they? :confused:

[GoktimusPrime]

I dunno... why didn't Hasbro do Beast Wars Neo? :/

The fact is that sometimes Hasbro and Takara will cooperate to simultaneously develop a line for both markets whereas at other times they will develop TF toys & lines exclusively for their own market. Sometimes one will decide to later import toys and/or lines from the other's market over to their own.

Examples of lines cooperatively developed for both markets:
G1 (mostly)
G2
Armadaverse

Some examples of toys/lines developed exclusively for one market and never used by the other:
Small Pretenders (Hasbro)
Small Targetmasters (Hasbro)
Trainbots (Takara)
Pretender Beasts, Vehicles and Ultra Pretenders (Hasbro)
Beast Wars II/Neo (Takara)
Transformers Animorphs (Hasbro)

Some examples of toys/lines developed by one company and later used by the other:
Overlord (Takara -> Hasbro)
Beast Machines (Hasbro -> Takara)
Car Robot (Takara -> Hasbro)
Classics (Hasbro -> Takara)

Animated is obvious a TF line that has been developed by Hasbro... whether TakaraTOMY will want to adapt it for their market (which would also require dubbing the cartoon over*) remains to be seen. Quite a few Japanese fans have already been importing Animated TFs from overseas and posting toy reviews (http://snakas.web.infoseek.co.jp/animated/index.htm).

[TheDirtyDigger]

Just an assumption but...you'd definitely think TakTom would want to dub the cartoon as the product is already there and a proven hit and costs would be minimal for the dub.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's by all means feasible for TakaraTOMY to import Animated over for the Japanese market but afaik they've made no announcement in regards to it so until then it's impossible to determine whether or not TakaraTOMY are considering Animated for their market or not.

[jgon2098]

does anyone know what i'm suppose to do with the gunclip on the g1 jetfire...

[SilverDragon]

Why aren't Takara doing Animated figures.....or are they? :confused:

I think they're waiting for the episode count to reach 52, since that's the number of episodes that Japanese series usually have, if the UT is anything to go by.

[GoktimusPrime]

does anyone know what i'm suppose to do with the gunclip on the g1 jetfire...
Surprisingly you use it to clip the gun onto Jetfire's forearm. Works in all modes.


I think they're waiting for the episode count to reach 52, since that's the number of episodes that Japanese series usually have, if the UT is anything to go by.
Negative. Beast Wars only had 26 episodes and it was dubbed into Japanese. After Beast Wars II and BW Neo they then dubbed BW Seasons 2 and 3 - with a combined total of 26 episodes - as Beast Wars Metals.

[TheDirtyDigger]

I think they're waiting for the episode count to reach 52, since that's the number of episodes that Japanese series usually have, if the UT is anything to go by.

That'd make sense coz that's the magic number when series go into syndication in the States. It's also the reason a lot of good cartoons finish at or soon after Episode 52.

[roller]

Ive been thinking of acquiring Universe 2 Prowl

but ive heard unsavory things about the doors or paint or something.

Please clarify

ta

[Golden Phoenix]

Ive been thinking of acquiring Universe 2 Prowl

but ive heard unsavory things about the doors or paint or something.

Please clarify

ta

I haven't picked him up yet, but from what I heard/read there has been some problems with the paint on his doors, apparently also in the Henkei release too.
Apparently the paint on his doors can be sticky to touch and might come off. Some think it is due to the way they have made the doors. I'm not sure how common it is, but some of Takara's Prowls have also had similar problems, although it has been as common as Hasbro.

[Pulse]

I heard that it was only the first batch with iffy paint (my initial Prowl had dodgy paint but then I got's me a 2nd one from the US & that was fine.)

When you see a bunch of them in the stores, scan the packages for the one with the best paint job. When transforming it, be a little careful in trying not to scrape the front quarters/doors onto the rest of him. In general, try not to be too rough with him. :)

[blackie]

Ive been thinking of acquiring Universe 2 Prowl

but ive heard unsavory things about the doors or paint or something.

Please clarify

ta

mines fine, and it was the first one i picked up off the shelf, and all the others ive seen lately have been good too

[GoktimusPrime]

roller: I've played with both Universe and Henkei Prowl - trust me dude... get Henkei. :)

The door paint is improved and it has beau-ti-ful CHROME on the gun, spoiler and weapon! At first I was fairly ambivalent about the spoiler chrome on Prowl and Sunstreaker, but after playing with the toys it's actually pretty neat! I made them race each other in car mode and the chrome kept leaving this streak of light reflecting off it... looked sick! :D I don't have the camera nor the skills to photograph those toys at high speed to capture the streak... but it looks noice! :D

Be aware that the strobe light rack on the car roofs are different. Henkei has a Japanese-style strobe whereas I'm guessing Universe Prowl's strobe is more American. IMO the Henkei one looks better because Prowl is painted in the colours of a Japanese police car... but it's purely a matter of individual taste. Neither strobe is inherently better or worse than the other.

Here's some comparative pics to help you decide for yourself...

Universe Prowl
http://images.forbiddenplanet.com/image/detail/17003430.jpghttp://images.forbiddenplanet.com/image/detail/1700343a0.jpg

Henkei Prowl
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/b/bb/Henkei_Prowl_toy.jpg

Henkei also comes with tech spec card & mini-comic book. :)

[roller]

thanks all for the info

Gok, that Henkei Prowl looks hawt!!!! I was against Henkei Prowl iniitally cause i heard that the doors has Japanese writing on it. Comparison photos make decisions so much easier.

Q: The Henkei Thundercracker was produced in limited numbers?

If so, how much of a dent did this board make? EG: did we order 9 out of 10

Q: Are the Henkei Dirge and Thrust limited in numbers?

[GoktimusPrime]

Yes and yes.

[autobreadticon]

i am unsure whether the universe voyagers (wave 2 onwards) will be re-released again under the 25th anniversary logo, right now some inferno boxs are released without the 25th logo, i seen the offical images with the 25th logo. it made me think whether they will re-release previous waves so the entire universe 2.0 set will have the logo. can any1 give me more details on this

[sanbot]

Hey guys/gals, anyone know if there are different versions of movie incinerator? Most pics that I've seen show that it is mostly grey and then the one that I got is mostly black. Have I gotten myself some fake one that fell off the back of the truck? :o

[iceburn]

Hey guys/gals, anyone know if there are different versions of movie incinerator? Most pics that I've seen show that it is mostly grey and then the one that I got is mostly black. Have I gotten myself some fake one that fell off the back of the truck? :o

You've got the "Dark" Incinerator (http://members9.tsukaeru.net/ty1_toys/toys/MOV1_MD-22.htm) that should come with a small allspark cube and is by Takara. The other normal release by Hasbro is the Incinerator (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8772&dispsize=600&start=0) that wasn't sold locally here in Australia.

So both Incinerators are considered "valuable" here
hope that helps

[GoktimusPrime]

ftr the Japanese version of Incinerator is just called "Incinerator," not "Dark Incinerator." (Reference (http://members9.tsukaeru.net/ty1_toys/toys/MOV1_MD-22.htm))

[sanbot]

Thanks for clarifying that!

Another question.

Normally, I just open all my TF's and play with them till the cows come home. But recently (i.e. whilst in Singapore and Japan) I've seen so many old TF's which I used to have and are now worth heaps and even some that I don't remember having until I actually saw it!

So I've been asking myself should I leave some of them unopened in the hopes that they would be worth a lot in however many years later? How do I know which ones to open and which ones not to? Is there some good "TF 101" website that can school me in the art of TF collecting?

BTW the TF that I saw and only remembered having after I saw it, was this spaceship which was blue and whitish I think (or purplish and whitish). It didn't transform into a robot, I think it was one of those ones that is like some kinda spaceship/base? I don't even remember when I got it. Anyone know which one I'm talking about (despite how vague I am)?

[loophole]

This one is aimed at Gok in your sig it reads as this: Transformers collection: 1198 (UCM), 1091 (SR) what does the SR mean?

[Paulbot]

i am unsure whether the universe voyagers (wave 2 onwards) will be re-released again under the 25th anniversary logo, right now some inferno boxs are released without the 25th logo, i seen the offical images with the 25th logo. it made me think whether they will re-release previous waves so the entire universe 2.0 set will have the logo. can any1 give me more details on this

It's unlikely that all of the Universe 2.0 toys will be rereleased in 25th Anniversary packaging. Some early wave toys do pop up again in later waves but we don't know yet, it's too early.

The recolours are being used to space out the line so that the same toys aren't on the shelf. The early ones like Sunstreaker and Prowl aren't likely to be repackaged as new toys like Smokescreen will be out instead (and hypothetically Red Alert??).


So I've been asking myself should I leave some of them unopened in the hopes that they would be worth a lot in however many years later? How do I know which ones to open and which ones not to? Is there some good "TF 101" website that can school me in the art of TF collecting?
I don't know of a good site, but if you want to keep some MISB for investment purposes look for popular/important characters and rare toys: eg Movie Bumblebee, Primes/Megatrons or Botcon toys.

[Pulse]

<snip>

So I've been asking myself should I leave some of them unopened in the hopes that they would be worth a lot in however many years later? How do I know which ones to open and which ones not to? Is there some good "TF 101" website that can school me in the art of TF collecting?

<snip>

Please don't be one of those collectors! :) IMO, All TF's are meant to be played with here & now (not sealed for all of eternity :D).

[GoktimusPrime]

This one is aimed at Gok in your sig it reads as this: Transformers collection: 1198 (UCM), 1091 (SR) what does the SR mean?
SR stands for "Substitution Rationale" which is a different method of counting Transformers. It's relatively similar to the UCM except for two criticial differences:
1. Multiples do not count
2. Substitutable variants do not count

Now rule #2 is where the system becomes quite controversial which makes it ill-suited as a "Universal" method of counting. A "substitutable" variant is a variant that you would consider a fair straight substitute. For example, most people would consider Classics and Henkei Grimlock to be substitutable variants of each other, that is to say that most people would be satisfied to own one or the other. If you owned both, they would count as one Transformer, not two.

It's called a subtitutable variant because you could buy one as a substitute for not having the other. e.g.: If you don't have an original G1 Megatron you could buy a reissue and consider it as part of your G1 collection, i.e.: as far as you're concerned, you don't need a G1 Megatron anymore even though what you have is a reissue. An example of a non-substitutable variant would be say black G1 Megatron. People do not buy the limited black variant of G1 Megatron as an accepted substitute for the original G1 Megatron (or its reissues) or vice versa. I have reissue Megatron - it satiates my need for a G1 Megatron (which I also used to have but was stolen)... but it does not satiate my wanting for a black G1 Megatron. Therefore black Megatron is not a substitutable variant. I got the 2001 reissue of Megatron. I skipped the TFC and Encore reissues because they are too similar to the 2001 reissue. To me, they are substitutable variants. I'm sure most people with TFC or Encore Megatron don't go out seeking to get the other reissues.

Confused? Yeah. I ran the 2005 collection survey with the substitution rationale rule and it was baaaaaaaaaad. Everyone got confused because we all have different definitions of what we accept as substitutable or not. What is substitutable to me may not be so for you and vice versa. It was too subjective and people got mad. So that's why in 2006-7 I decided to create the Universal Counting Method which works well for its intended purpose of conducting surveys because unlike the Substitution Rationale rule the UCM is very explicit in defining what does and doesn't count.

I personally prefer the SR rule because I personally don't believe that multiples should count, nor should certain variants (e.g.: Classics and Henkei Skywarp count as 1 Transformer under SR but 2 under UCM). But I find that SR is not a good system when it comes to comparing my collection with other people because it's not explicit enough and everyone has a different definition of what counts as substitutable or not. So in terms of making any kind of comparison I prefer UCM.

In short, my SR count is the same as my UCM count minus all multiples and 'simple' variants (e.g.: all my original G1s and their reissues count as 1, not 2).

[sanbot]

Paulbot, how do i know what would be considered rare?

Pulse, yes my inner child is telling me to open and play play play and make transformer noises but adult shazam is thinking $$$ :o

[Paulbot]

Paulbot, how do i know what would be considered rare?

Best way to know is to check what's selling out. Eg If a store has 4 Prowls, 4 Sunstreakers but only 1 Tankor then Tankor is the rare/popular toy. However any current toys aren't really going to be worth a lot for years. Another tip would be to check what toys get good reviews because those are the ones that people will want 10-15 years later.

[sanbot]

Best way to know is to check what's selling out. Eg If a store has 4 Prowls, 4 Sunstreakers but only 1 Tankor then Tankor is the rare/popular toy. However any current toys aren't really going to be worth a lot for years. Another tip would be to check what toys get good reviews because those are the ones that people will want 10-15 years later.

How about with the encore series or other TF's that are not sold in Australia? I spotted so many of them whilst in Japan and many of them seem to be the same as another one but then they'd be a completely different price like for example Galvatron, the only difference I could see was that one had a yellow all spark and the other had a green (I ended up getting the green one). Plus they are not really sold in retail stores in Australia so it be hard for me to determine which is selling out more quickly? Oh and Alternators was another one, two seemingly similar alternators at two different prices?

[GoktimusPrime]

Galvatron's not an Encore reissue. The grey toy with the green matrix is a limited e-Hobby exclusive and would be much rarer than the purple reissue with the gold Matrix. Having said that, I think the purple one is more popular. Reissues aren't as valuable as original G1s though.

[sanbot]

Galvatron's not an Encore reissue. The grey toy with the green matrix is a limited e-Hobby exclusive and would be much rarer than the purple reissue with the gold Matrix. Having said that, I think the purple one is more popular. Reissues aren't as valuable as original G1s though.

Oh that makes sense. I feel like such a noob!

Man I was just reading the thread below and I feel so guilty even asking these questions about resale value. Seems to me a true TF fan would not collect to resell.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=2436

[Paulbot]

Oh that makes sense. I feel like such a noob!

Man I was just reading the thread below and I feel so guilty even asking these questions about resale value. Seems to me a true TF fan would not collect to resell.

There's nothing wrong with buying a few TFs with investment motives.

[jaydisc]

What ever happened with Takara's expected release of Nemesis Prime with the red windows?

[jaydisc]

These look like Movie Legends Optimus and Ice Megatron (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-MEGATEON-OPTIMUS-PRIME-f_W0QQitemZ170276777096QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZ RSS:B:SRCH:US:101), but the paintjob on Optimus is really impressive and I don't ever remember seeing one like that. Even the Megatron's blended blue looks more impressive than what I've seen. They're not advertised as customs though. What are these?

[TheDirtyDigger]

These look like Movie Legends Optimus and Ice Megatron (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-MEGATEON-OPTIMUS-PRIME-f_W0QQitemZ170276777096QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZ RSS:B:SRCH:US:101), but the paintjob on Optimus is really impressive and I don't ever remember seeing one like that. Even the Megatron's blended blue looks more impressive than what I've seen. They're not advertised as customs though. What are these?

My guess is KO's or at least non HasTak models.

[liegeprime]

Anybody here own an Encore Prime? Coz I just want to know if this prime version has the FAT gun rather than common slender one and if it has an energy axe included? Also couldn't find the thread but will we be getting the Universe 2packs? ya know Roadbuster Vs Ratbat? Cheers.

[Kyle]

These look like Movie Legends Optimus and Ice Megatron (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-MEGATEON-OPTIMUS-PRIME-f_W0QQitemZ170276777096QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZ RSS:B:SRCH:US:101), but the paintjob on Optimus is really impressive and I don't ever remember seeing one like that. Even the Megatron's blended blue looks more impressive than what I've seen. They're not advertised as customs though. What are these?

I remember a fast food chain (Phillipines or another country) had oversized versions of the movie legends with their kids meals. Prime looks like one of these. Megatron though is a repaint in the legends 2-packs I think.

[Kyle]

Anybody here own an Encore Prime? Coz I just want to know if this prime version has the FAT gun rather than common slender one and if it has an energy axe included?

I don't plan to open mine, but from pics I've seen online I remember it's the FAT version. (Don't believe they've used the mould of the thin one after the very first Takara then Hasbro reissues.) And no, no energy axe was included in any reissues except the TF Collection #0.

[jaydisc]

Also couldn't find the thread but will we be getting the Universe 2packs? ya know Roadbuster Vs Ratbat? Cheers.

Yes. TRU exclusives.

[GoktimusPrime]

I played with those toys today. Ratbat, Dirge and Roadbuster are pretty cool but Springer was kinda fail IMHO. Meh. Oh yeah, they have the comics mixed up too... :/

liegeprime: the official web site for Encore Convoy shows him with the phat rifle. :)

http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/encore/e-01_02.jpg
http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/encore/e-01_04.jpg (http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/encore/e-01.html)

[roller]

Does G1.5 and G2 Hook toys have the driver cab on the opposite leg to the G1 version?

ta

[liegeprime]

thanks guys, that clears it up, Jay, Gok

[GoktimusPrime]

roller: there's no such thing as G1.5 Hook. The 1992 Constructicons are G1. G1.5 is 1993 pre-G2 stuff, like Obliterators. Transformers Generations refers to them as the "New" Constructicons, so I guess you can consider that a retcon of the '92 Constructicon names.

Anyway, here are some pics:

G1 1985 Hook http://www.phphilippines.com/hook/toy/robot_zoom.jpg

G1 1992 "Hook" http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/images/ehook.gif (officially the toy was nameless... go Hasbro :/)

G2 1993 Hook http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/images/g2hook.gif

1953 Captain Hook http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8348/theelegantcaptainhookismr7.jpg Y'arrr!

[roller]

thanks, i always though G1.5 applied to everything not released in the US during the tail end of G1.

[Gutsman Heavy]

G1.5 is a fan term so it can appy to anything! my left butt-cheek is G1.5

[GoktimusPrime]

That's like say Seekers and Gestalt are fan terms so that my right foot is a Gestalt and my cat's droppings are Seekers! Heck, "G1" was originally a fan term too! :p Before G2 everything was just "Transformers." It was only after G2 came out that everyone started referring to everything that came before it as "G1" by default.

Although it is a fan term, "G1.5" refers to G1 figures which were later repackaged as G2. Exact same toy/incarnation etc., only difference being the packaging/marketing. Basically it was because in 1993 Hasbro was still releasing Transformers, then later on in the same year they released G2 and so they decided to repackage some of the latest "G1" toys that had been released earlier that year as G2. This meant that in 1993 we saw the same toys in both pre-G2 (G1) and G2 packaging! As a result, those toys have come to be known as "G1.5" in the fandom. The 1992 Constructicons were never repackaged as G2 and so are strictly G1/pre-G2.

"G1.5" Fearswoop
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/fearswoop.jpg
On the left is Fearswoop in pre-G2 (G1) packaging as released in early 1993. On the right is Fearswoop in Generation 2 packaging as released later that same year. The only difference between these toys is the packaging. If you got this toy loose without packaging it would be impossible to tell whether it was G1 or G2 - so as a result fans have come to call it G1.5.

[GoktimusPrime]

Ooh! I have a question to ask now! :D

Some dude on Youtube sent me this video "review" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1S6sSQck74&feature=email) claiming that he owns a rare prototype _golden dragon_ Diaclone Sludge. I have never heard of such a toy. It's not mentioned in Transformers: Generations (published by Takara) nor Diaclone.net.

So I suspect that this toy could be a fake and I've mentioned so on this guy's comments page for the reasons I cited above, but he claims it's real because some other guy also has the toy and says that it's real... basically he seems to be relying on hearsay information. I've asked him to provide some _real_ evidence but um... yeah. *shrug*

Can anyone confirm or deny this person's claim?

[liegeprime]

Ha! thats a KO that was released for the Asian market. Ive also seen a variant of Grimlock which looks to have a Godzilla look to it and Slag had a different variation to his horns and crest. Its NOT an official TF ( prototype or otherwise) nor a Diaclone AFAIK. This was during the time when Armada was still in promotion when I saw em - back in Philippines. The quality is good, although they look awkward really.

[griffin]

Check that varients page (address escapes me right now), as it has a huge page on the Dinobots, and I'm pretty sure I recall them mentioning the gold ones.

[sanbot]

Ha! thats a KO that was released for the Asian market. Ive also seen a variant of Grimlock which looks to have a Godzilla look to it and Slag had a different variation to his horns and crest. Its NOT an official TF ( prototype or otherwise) nor a Diaclone AFAIK. This was during the time when Armada was still in promotion when I saw em - back in Philippines. The quality is good, although they look awkward really.

Is this the same thing as the KOs of the alternators that I saw whilst in Singapore? In car mode they looked almost identical.

[SilverDragon]

Speaking of dinobots released for the Asian Market, when and where is S-E Overkill being released here?

[griffin]

Most of the major stores here are taking the SE Classics, but they won't be here until January.

[TheDirtyDigger]

Most of the major stores here are taking the SE Classics, but they won't be here until January.

What are SE Classics? Who is SE Overkill?

[Kyle]

What are SE Classics? Who is SE Overkill?

These ones. :)

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=2217

[liegeprime]

Is this the same thing as the KOs of the alternators that I saw whilst in Singapore? In car mode they looked almost identical.

These were issued out way before as I said I saw em when Armada was the current TF line being pushed by Hasbro. The KO Alts ( which are more recent releases) Im not sure if its the same company but I did see em as well in Phil's when the Alt/BTs released were only up to Hound yet. They do look identical except for the auto symbol, but the Kos tend to easily break in the plastic parts, hence you get to watch your money go down the drain in a snap when you try to transform and become overzealous with it. I wont recommend it, mebbe for custom fodder or parts ( the metal ones) but thats it.

[sanbot]

These were issued out way before as I said I saw em when Armada was the current TF line being pushed by Hasbro. The KO Alts ( which are more recent releases) Im not sure if its the same company but I did see em as well in Phil's when the Alt/BTs released were only up to Hound yet. They do look identical except for the auto symbol, but the Kos tend to easily break in the plastic parts, hence you get to watch your money go down the drain in a snap when you try to transform and become overzealous with it. I wont recommend it, mebbe for custom fodder or parts ( the metal ones) but thats it.

I was tempted to get one just to see what they were like. But from the sounds of it, I made the right decision in not doing so.

[Tommy K]

ok heres a question
why do transformers have noses and mouths?
cant they just talk through a speeker or something?

[GoktimusPrime]

No real reason. That's why they don't have human-like faces in the live action movie - there's no practical need for it. Some people complained that the movie TFs look "ugly" but it makes sense. I personally really like the real alien and other-worldly look of the movie TF designs.
http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Transformers/Bumblebee.jpghttp://5thgen.org/forum/customavatars/avatar628_5.gif

[Paulbot]

ok heres a question
why do transformers have noses and mouths?
cant they just talk through a speeker or something?

Sometimes in the comic Optimus Prime was shown to have a speaker underneath his faceplate.

[Golden Phoenix]

ok heres a question
why do transformers have noses and mouths?
cant they just talk through a speeker or something?

In the IDW G1 continuity, they show a species on Gorlam Prime start upgrading their bodies in a cyborg like way and then eventually become completely machine.
If the Transformers had an origin like this, then having a face and nose and mouth would simply be a throwback or reference to their previous form

[GoktimusPrime]

Sometimes in the comic Optimus Prime was shown to have a speaker underneath his faceplate.

Like this...
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/thumb/c/cc/Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg/150px-Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg

Masterpiece Convoy/Prime also has a grill underneath the faceplate too... although it kinda looks like gritted teeth too... kinda like this:
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/thumbnails/sullivan.jpg

G2 Prime once had a mouth in a nightmare...
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/primeyaniger.jpg

...but it later turned out that G2 Prime just had a bunch of KISS Play style hentacles instead. Eew. :p
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/thumbnails/gallan.jpg

...or just raw wires and circuitry.
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/thumbnails/senior.jpg

The G1 book "The Great Car Rally" showed Prime with a regular humanlike mouth!
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/thumbnails/carrally.jpg

And in the G1 cartoon Prime just had nothing...
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/cartoon2.jpg
Where the hell does his voice come out from? Maybe we're better off not knowing... :/

[Pulse]

Where the hell does his voice come out from? Maybe we're better off not knowing... :/

This makes me think of Wheeljack's line from the DrSmoov vid (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2-aTbHsZJ9g) "I don't even have a mouth you dumb sh#t!" :D

[Tommy K]

fair enough, but how come some characters actually have the faceplate? like soundwave and optimus prime, is it to hide a revealing scar, or is the mouthplate not working?

[Golden Phoenix]

fair enough, but how come some characters actually have the faceplate? like soundwave and optimus prime, is it to hide a revealing scar, or is the mouthplate not working?

Could be either personal preference or for protection. Maybe they have some special important components behind it

[Pulse]

I don't want to start a new thread for this so I'll just squeeze it in here :)

Anyway, I'm waiting on a TF from China & the Ebay Seller has sent me the tracking number (CP149067725CN) but I have no idea where I can track it. Can anyone help? :)

[griffin]

If it is from Hong Kong, try this tracking website - http://app3.hongkongpost.com/CGI/mt/enquiry.jsp (http://app3.hongkongpost.com/CGI/mt/enquiry.jsp)

[Pulse]

Thanks for that Griffin but I'm still getting a dead end... Oh Well...

I did stumble across this (http://www.track-trace.com/post) & when I translate the results - I get:

- CP149067725CN 2008 the total exports of each package sealed letters issued international Changsha Australia on November 14, 2008

- CP149067725CN 2008 export total package split open each closures Changsha International Australia on November 14, 2008

- CP149067725CN 2008 Acceptance Acceptance Board Dongfeng Road, Australia on November 13, 2008

which doesn't really tell me a whole lot :D. I guess I'll just have to wait... :)

[blackie]

has the universe unicon been released here?

[griffin]

Universe Unicron (the re-release of Armada Unicron) is not being released here, because it is a store exclusive in America, and too big for any retailer to want here as an exclusive.

[blackie]

Universe Unicron (the re-release of Armada Unicron) is not being released here, because it is a store exclusive in America, and too big for any retailer to want here as an exclusive.

:(

sorta wanted that one.... and since the dollar is down the toilet i dont think ill be getting it any time soon

[roller]

is it just mine or are most Yellah G1 constructicons extremely fragile?

My 2 hooks are really damaged in the arms sections

Mixmaster is made of glass

Longhauls arms looks as though they will snap if i play with it or transform it

Scavenger and Bonecrusher seem ok, SCrapper i dont have.


In Universe 2 universe is there any fiction that explains why Octane changed his name to Tankor?

ta

[Pipesqueak]

Does anyone have God Neptune? How rare and expensive is it? I like the colour scheme a lot better than the other versions.

[King Atlas]

He is quite uncommon. The price for the giftset is usually between $100-$130 w/out shipping (I was lucky that I only paid $110 shipped). You should know that he is missing some components from the other versions and one of the seacons (nautilator, who is the worst anyway), but im sure you did your research. Regardless, he is still alot nicer, even if he is missing accessories. If you can't live without the small guns, stands, etc there are plenty of those parts on ebay which are cheap and are easy too customize to match the set :)

[dirge]

I have both God Neptune & Piranacon.

I find God Neptune's colours are really geared towards the combined form - the individuals don't always look so good, especially in their robot modes. He does look great combined. On balance, I prefer the original Piranacon because of the robot modes, but it's a close thing - and either beat out the recent effort that looks like it has been attacked by a three year olf with crayons.

[GoktimusPrime]

He is quite uncommon. The price for the giftset is usually between $100-$130 w/out shipping (I was lucky that I only paid $110 shipped). You should know that he is missing some components from the other versions and one of the seacons (nautilator, who is the worst anyway), but im sure you did your research. Regardless, he is still alot nicer, even if he is missing accessories.
Four he + one she. :) (although the combined God Neptune character is male)
And I quite like Nautilator! :p

[TheDirtyDigger]

Four he + one she. :) (although the combined God Neptune character is male)


lol...Reminds me of Herman's Head.

[Paulbot]

is it just mine or are most Yellah G1 constructicons extremely fragile?

I don't think it's just yours, but I don't have any so can't confirm.


In Universe 2 universe is there any fiction that explains why Octane changed his name to Tankor?

No

[King Atlas]

Four he + one she. :) (although the combined God Neptune character is male)
And I quite like Nautilator! :p
Indeed! Yes, when it comes to God Neptune I tend to be sexist towards Scylla, because nobody would guess she's a female unless you told them, imo. And the lipstick on the beastmode isn't clear to me either (not even sure if it is supposed to be?). Im guessing the show explains it all.....

[canofwhoopass_87]

Hey guys I'm no expert on jap figs so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what version of magnus this is:

I was thinking it's the 15th anniversary edition or something..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200276190834

Cheers!

[Pulse]

Not sure... :confused:

The foam insert suggests to me that it may be original...

[Kyle]

Hey guys I'm no expert on jap figs so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what version of magnus this is:

I was thinking it's the 15th anniversary edition or something..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200276190834

Cheers!


Not sure... :confused:

The foam insert suggests to me that it may be original...

Agreed. Other clues:
(1) Lacking the gold sticker from the Takara reissue.
(2) The Takara logo on the box is a much older version, not the newer version used during the reissue, which was still a few years before the merge with Tomy.
(3) Fists are still attached on the plastic "tree".

[GoktimusPrime]

It's also stated in the item description in massive red text:
"VINTAGE TAKARA
G1 TRANSFORMERS AUTOBOT
ULTRA MAGNUS
Hasbro Japan robot
(NO REISSUE VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!)"

And yeah, that's an original Japanese G1 Magnus. You can also tell from the old Takara logo on the bottom right corner too. Reissue Magnus has the newer Takara logo (used by Takara before the merger with TOMY). Reissues also use clear plastic trays, not foam ones. And the foam is worn/aged which wouldn't happen with a recently manufactured figure.

Here's what the original Japanese G1 Magnus box looks like:
http://www.diaclone.net/orid/dia057/magjp.jpg

And here's what the reissue Magnus box looks like:
http://www.diaclone.net/orid/dia057/fukkoku01.jpg

The tell-tale signs are:
1/ Lack of black & gold 15th Anniversary sticker on window
2/ Different Takara logo on bottom right corner
3/ White foam tray vs clear plastic tray

[canofwhoopass_87]

Ah thanks guys - big help :) don't think there's a better place to ask than this board.

Cheers!

[griffin]

It's also stated in the item description in massive red text:
"VINTAGE TAKARA
G1 TRANSFORMERS AUTOBOT
ULTRA MAGNUS
Hasbro Japan robot
(NO REISSUE VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!)"


I think the point is, that you can never trust ebay auction descriptions, and he just wanted actual proof/verification of which one it was.

[roller]

one of my G1 toys has the wrong alliance heat rub symbols on it, does this make it super rare?

[GoktimusPrime]

Probably, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's valuable as I'm not sure how much demand there is for a toy like that from collectors.

[sanbot]

Hey guys,

Ever since I went to Singapore and spotted a TF that I owned as a kid but only remembered it after I saw it. I've been wondering what it is.

Unfortunately I don't remember much details about it, except to say that its a spaceship, I don't think it transformed to a robot and I think it might have been a base? I know, I know its not much details at all :p But hit me up with some knowledge if possible :D

Oh and I probably would have had this toy between 1989 to 1990

[roller]

how large is it roughly? in height

if it doesn't transform its likely to be an Action master Transformer

Transformers that don't transform, but they do come with weapon partners or vehicles they can ride in.

This site is pretty good, just scroll down to the 90s and see if its one of them.

http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/

what colour is the figure?

[sanbot]

how large is it roughly? in height

if it doesn't transform its likely to be an Action master Transformer

Transformers that don't transform, but they do come with weapon partners or vehicles they can ride in.

This site is pretty good, just scroll down to the 90s and see if its one of them.

http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/

what colour is the figure?

Thanks for the linkage! Gotta make sure I bookmark them.

Found what I was looking for. It was Skystalker:

http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/skystalker.php

Oh the memories are starting to flood in now...

[jaydisc]

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/bulkhead1.png

What is this non-TF'ing Bulkhead?

[Autocon]

Movie scout backtrack
is this an exclusive? how do i obtain him :(

[GoktimusPrime]

afaik Backtrack is a Mini-Con from Armadaverse.

is this an exclusive?
Nope. I've seen them at Kmart, Target, HobbyCo. etc.

how do i obtain him
Go shopping.

What is this non-TF'ing Bulkhead?
Cyber Speed Bulkhead?? *shrug*

[TheDirtyDigger]

Movie scout backtrack
is this an exclusive? how do i obtain him :(

Don't think it's been released yet. Definitely hasn't been released here. (in Oz)

[Lithium]

Does anyone here know when Transformers: Animated Season 3 will be released? And when we can expect to watch it on Toasted TV?

[GoktimusPrime]

Some time next year. Beyond that nobody knows.

[Lithium]

Damn! I reckon it must be really good if we have to wait this long. lol

[SilverDragon]

Movie scout backtrack
is this an exclusive? how do i obtain him :(

Considering that the movie line has essentially ended here bar all the Cybertron repaints stuffed into it, I have doubts that Backtrack will show up here.

[GoktimusPrime]

I just punched movie scout backtrack through Google and this is what I found:

http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/movie-autobots-180/backtrack-1884/
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Backtrack_(Movie)
http://www.allspark.com/content/view/2900/28/

...no mention of it being exclusive and it's meant to come out some time this year.

Meh, I already have Cybertron Lugnutz and Hightail... don't need a third version of the mould. Just wait for Pulse to buy it and give it away for free later.

[Pulse]

... just wait for Pulse to buy it and give it away for free later.

I ain't buying that repaint

[jaydisc]

http://lindalane.com/temporary/tf/bulkhead1.png

What is this non-TF'ing Bulkhead?

I asked Derrick Wyatt (who's blog I found the pic at) and he responded:


That little Bulkhead is from a TFA board game set. The game also comes with PVC figures of Bumblebee, Optimus and Prowl. The box for the game is pretty cool too, it's made to look like Optimus Prime's cab.

I don't usually tune in to non-TFing-TF releases. Is this available in AU?

[griffin]

I haven't heard anything of an Animated game. It's either something not yet announced, or released yet.

[Paulbot]

I've heard of it, I think it's the one that's many board games in one, but not of it being in Australia yet.

[jaydisc]

Linky?

[Paulbot]

Here you go (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/new-wal-mart-exclusive-transformers-animated-board-games-set-165571/). WalMart exclusive in America

[jaydisc]

Here you go (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/new-wal-mart-exclusive-transformers-animated-board-games-set-165571/). WalMart exclusive in America

Awesome! Thanks. ' Might have to get one.

[Robzy]

QQ for those who have Universe Bluestreak...

I've seen 3 Universe Bluestreaks (Yes that's right... NOT Silverstreak! :mad:) at a few different stores. Each time his windows have been different... One was tinted blue, another a dark grey colour, and the third was totally clear! Are these variants normal? What is the "correct" colour of these windows sposed to be?

[GoktimusPrime]

Another advantage of getting the Henkei version, it's actually Bluestreak. Okay, the toy is called "Streak" but Streak is Bluestreak's Japanese name. Streak is the same as Bluestreak just as Convoy is the same as Optimus Prime. :)

[Pulse]

QQ for those who have Universe Bluestreak...

I've seen 3 Universe Bluestreaks (Yes that's right... NOT Silverstreak! :mad:) at a few different stores. Each time his windows have been different... One was tinted blue, another a dark grey colour, and the third was totally clear! Are these variants normal? What is the "correct" colour of these windows sposed to be?

I haven't even payed attention to this... :D

I believe mine's from the first batch (I got it from BBTS) *checks its colours* & his windows are tinted blue *shrugs*.

Maybe in years to come, it'll become like the Cheetor variants with their red/blue/green eyes... ;)

[TheDirtyDigger]

I've got a light blue tint here.

EDIT: Wow...I just held up my Bluestreak to the light. You should check how appallingly thin the paint on his doors is.

[Robzy]

Maybe it's just a QC issue then?!

[roller]

Im not sure if i remember correctly but, in the Energon comics, is there are big mistake? Im sure that somwhere around issue *20something, the names for the councillors get mistake, i think Leviticus or Avalon, it was something like they call him Avalon for the first 20 issues, then after *20something they call him Leviticus.


and why are most people changing their board pics and avatars? Dont you realise that i rely on the those pics to identify you? Changing them just makes me confused:p

[GoktimusPrime]

Cos you look like Blurr...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/mohammedchan.jpg :p

[Golden Phoenix]

and why are most people changing their board pics and avatars? Dont you realise that i rely on the those pics to identify you? Changing them just makes me confused:p

Everyone else is doing, maybe they just want to be popular

[GoktimusPrime]

Hey roller, remember this?
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/9/9a/RollerForceBoxart.jpg/190px-RollerForceBoxart.jpg

[roller]

Hey roller, remember this?
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/9/9a/RollerForceBoxart.jpg/190px-RollerForceBoxart.jpg

arrogance of youth...:o

hopefully he will be in the new movie and have some sort of none pink radical upgrade!

[GoktimusPrime]

hopefully he will be in the new movie and have some sort of none pink radical upgrade!
It worked for Barricade. :D

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/3/34/G1BarricadeBoxart.jpg/200px-G1BarricadeBoxart.jpghttp://zunescene.mobi/forums/avatars/All%20Transformers/Avatars_Transformers_Barricade.jpg
Black is the new pink!

[dirge]

It could be worse, roller. Someone else could go and change your avatar...

[Kyle]

I now survive on miso soup! :)

[Pulse]

Now you've gone & made me change my avatar too... :o

[Golden Phoenix]

Now you've gone & made me change my avatar too... :o

Sheep! Your all sheep I say!

[roller]

ahhhh dirge what have you done to my avatar???!!!!!??

Invasion of civil liberties!!!!

Power mad moderator!!!!

Who moderates the moderators??!!!!


:p

[blackie]

Who moderates the moderators??!!!!


grifin?

[dirge]

Heh, it's nice to see that you needed someone else to make mention before you noticed! (:

Anyway, I'll change it to something more... post-op.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Guys, $150AU for a complete fort max body (all attachments minus the waist cannons and ramps but comes with the satellite dish) in good condition, average sticker wear and light yellowing of the legs including shipping Would you buy? Shipping alone was $35 for economy air.

[blackie]

yep nice and easy

[GoktimusPrime]

I would never buy a Fort Max without Cerebros.

[roller]

I would never buy a Fort Max without Cerebros.

never ever?

[jaydisc]

Guys, $150AU for a complete fort max body (all attachments minus the waist cannons and ramps but comes with the satellite dish) in good condition, average sticker wear and light yellowing of the legs including shipping Would you buy? Shipping alone was $35 for economy air.

I'd try to avoid yellowing of any kind if possible, but from what I have seen, A$200 is the going rate for what you're looking at. Cerebros and Spike go for USD 150+ each and the ramps are also quite expensive. Don't worry too much about not getting Cerebros right away. He's quite commonly available by himself.

[roller]

si im cruising the interspacenet web and i find this

my memory tracks say that this is a miscoloured G2 ironhide with meanstreaks colours, am i right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390004171786&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=390012055756&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu% 3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4

[Pulse]

griffin?

The Monorator monorates Griffin... ;)

[jacksplatt11]

The Monorator monorates Griffin... ;)

Monorail?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x4/jacksplatt11/simpsons-lyle-lanley-monorail.gif

[canofwhoopass_87]

Hey how much do loose complete titanium (g1 version) ultra magnus' go for on ebay australia? I think I saw one sneak away at $90 last time but not too sure...

[STL]

Hey how much do loose complete titanium (g1 version) ultra magnus' go for on ebay australia? I think I saw one sneak away at $90 last time but not too sure...

He's the rarest and one of the most wanted Titanium toys and I've been trying to get my hands on a second MISB one but I think that's long past now. It's a hefty $50 USD at the very least. If you can get it for less, that's an absolute steal. Great toy though, one of my favourite Titaniums.

[Pulse]

I can't believe mine only set me back $25 from Casefresh way back when... :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Edit: Please do not poke fun at users no longer registered - dirge.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Hey guys it's been mentioned on this thread that the g1 version titanium Ultra magnus is rare (and expensive :eek:) but what about the g1 scourge titanium? A guy is offering $35AU for it + $20AU shipping from the U.S mint in box, but not sealed. Good deal?

[kup]

Monorail?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x4/jacksplatt11/simpsons-lyle-lanley-monorail.gif

Halp it's Galvatron!!!

[Pulse]

Hey guys it's been mentioned on this thread that the g1 version titanium Ultra magnus is rare (and expensive :eek:) but what about the g1 scourge titanium? A guy is offering $35AU for it + $20AU shipping from the U.S mint in box, but not sealed. Good deal?

Not sure... Titanium G1 Scourge isn't that wanted *shrugs*

Searching completed listings, most sold from $23-30 but this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-TITANIUM-SCOURGE_W0QQitemZ270306156919QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270306156919&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) only went for $5 :)

[liegeprime]

Okies I cant seem to find a sightings for it but where can one buy those Special edition TFs - Im particularly after Dragstrip.... which store is retailing these please? Oh and how much are they?

[dirge]

They've been sighted in Toy Kingdoms. In Sydney that roughly equates to out precious few independents, such as Hobbyco, Uncle Petes and Frasers Cycles.

[liegeprime]

Thanks dirge, means I'll be having a tough luck finding it then. oh well not a priority atm.

[blackie]

for victorians, is shcokwave classed the same as megatron and therefore illegal to import?

[jaydisc]

While only a guess, I'd have to say no, as it's not really a "replica"

[Golden Phoenix]

While only a guess, I'd have to say no, as it's not really a "replica"

Agreed. It looks nothing like a real gun. Looks kind of like a futuristic hair dryer in my opinion

[TheDirtyDigger]

I remember someone saying ages ago that the Titanium Autobot Ark was a repaint of a Y-Wing fighter. It's actually not, it's a repainted, tiny version of something from Milton Bradley called an Electronic Starbird.

Does anyone know anything about this or it's value? I've seen one for sale that's rather expensive for what it is but am thinking it might make a nice, larger scale Ark if it was repainted.

[Eruntalon]

New question: what are my chances with customs if I imported a G1 Megatron into the country from overseas, if it were either partially disassembled or simply transformed into robot mode? Are there significantly large pieces on the toy which still resemble the Walther P38 in either mode enough to alert customs to something suspicious?

[jaydisc]

New question: what are my chances with customs if I imported a G1 Megatron into the country from overseas, if it were either partially disassembled or simply transformed into robot mode? Are there significantly large pieces on the toy which still resemble the Walther P38 in either mode enough to alert customs to something suspicious?

From what I understand, they're pretty switched on to Megatron even if in robot mode. Disassambly's an option, but most likely you'd still have what looked like gun parts which might even draw more scrutiny.

[GoktimusPrime]

Eruntalon: We just had the Megatron Club AGM yesterday... gun Transformers are still outrightly illegal in Victoria. You cannot import into that state under any condition. The same applies for the ACT too. For more information about the legality of Megatron in Victoria please see here (http://www.megatron.net.au/MC_Masterpiece_MP05_VIC.htm).

[dirge]

The other aspect of this - if customs Do nab Megatron, you have no avenue through which to get it back, other than to go through the entire process of getting a full Firearms licence. It's also possible that they decide to make an example of you for trying to beat the system... and prosecute.

[TheDirtyDigger]

Is G1 Red Bumblebee more valuable than yellow Bumblee?

[griffin]

I'm thinking, maybe not. They would have been produced in equal numbers in the first year (Hasbro confirmed that the two BBs, CJs and single BJ were to pad out the first year), but only the yellow one in the second year, would make it more common. Plus, BB was produced in the late 80s during the Chinese release of TFs, which we got in Australia in the early 90s.
So my thinking is, that even though the red one should be rarer, it would be in less demand to collectors, whom most would only want the yellow one. I actually acquired 2 red BBs before a yellow one, and before I eventually got a CJ. In todays TFs toyline, the red BB and yellow CJ would be given a prefix name (like Fireblast BB, or Flaming CJ) to differentiate their alternate colours, but back in the day with the new toyline, it wasn't considered necessary.
As such, they are only really considered worth getting to completist collectors. Anyone else who collects TFs, especially show-character collectors, wouldn't be interested in them, so the value *should* be less.
They make for good temporary substitutes (I had the red BB as CJ for quite a few years), but beyond that, I'm not sure if any non-completists have any interest in them.

[roller]

I want to get a red one more then a yellow one, i need both.

[dirge]

Nah he's worth about the same as the yellow one, Digger. Rarer but the demand is lower. Now, a Blue Bumblebee (yes, they do exist) would be worth a buttload!

[Sky Shadow]

Nah he's worth about the same as the yellow one, Digger. Rarer but the demand is lower. Now, a Blue Bumblebee (yes, they do exist) would be worth a buttload!

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/584/bmbcomp2ir7.jpg

Mexican Blue Bumblebee on the left: "worth a buttload". American Blue Glyph on the right: not of sufficient worth to load a butt.

[dirge]

I was referring to the non-Mexican Blue Bumblebee actually. Should I be able to see pics there, J?

[Sky Shadow]

I was referring to the non-Mexican Blue Bumblebee actually. Should I be able to see pics there, J?

(You should now. :)) Are there really US carded Blue Bumblebees? I thought they were a scam?

[Wheel-J]

(You should now. :)) Are there really US carded Blue Bumblebees? I thought they were a scam?

:eek: http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Fake/TFFakeBlueBumblebeeMOC.html

http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Fake/BlueBumbleBeeMOC1.jpg

[Sky Shadow]

:eek: http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Fake/TFFakeBlueBumblebeeMOC.html

http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Fake/BlueBumbleBeeMOC1.jpg

Um... that's a Photoshopped Bumblebee. It makes no sense that the Bumblebee on the card would be blue.

[Wheel-J]

Btw, why would Hasbro create a blue BB? I'm not aware of any color-shifting BB on any of the TF storyline... unless it happen on the comic series(?).