MOC and MIB - They're Not Just Meaningless Acronyms.

[Sky Shadow]

Sigh. I'm tired of sellers in the toy community describing their wares as "MOC" and "MIB" as if they're just meaningless capitalised words that they can use to spruce up a description of their product.

MOC stands for Mint On Card and MIB means Mint In Box. To be Mint, the toy needs to actually be in mint condition. Not broken in any way. Not with sticker wear. Not with chrome wear. Not with scratches. Mint. Like it just came out of the factory. I am tired of being sold toys that are described as MOC and are in fact just junkers with broken rubber tyres attached with blu-tac that happen to be sold alongside a card. (Yes, that has happened to me.) Most opened toys are not Mint. Even toys that have just been transformed and played with once or twice are really only Near Mint. Most G1 toys that I find described as Mint are in fact in Fine condition at best.

So as a smaller part of the community here at least, can we please only use acronyms like MIB when we're actually describing toys that are... I don't know... Mint? In their box? Thanks.

(Further discussion and personal anecdotes are more than welcome.)

[loophole]

you like to see people use the terms VFIB and GOC etc etc,,, is that what you or would you rather C6 Mirage with C9 box system

[shokwave2]

When i sell stuff on eBay, i describe the un-opened items as MISB (Mint In Sealed Box). That way the buyers know that the figure is mint, as it has not been opened. I always thought MIB and MOC meant the same things, and describing un-opened items.

I never advertise items as MIB or MOC if they have been opened, as i always through my cards/packaging away anyway. If i sell an opened figure i'll describe it as "near perfect condition" or "used as display only".

[Sky Shadow]

you like to see people use the terms VFIB and GOC etc etc,,, is that what you or would you rather C6 Mirage with C9 box system

I just don't want people using MOC or MIB to describe toys unless those toys are in fact Mint. It just seems like these days if a toy is being sold with a box, the seller thinks that's enough to justify "MIB" - almost as if it's some meaningless acronym to randomly throw into descriptions the way some people use "LOL". Yes, "C6 Mirage with C9 box" would work, as would an accurate description of the toy in coherent sentences.

[GoktimusPrime]

You can use MOC, MIB, MIP (Mint In Package) to describe toys that are either sealed or loose that are in mint condition, although people tend to assume that they're loose. Toys that are sealed mint are described as:
MOSC = Mint On Sealed Card
MISB = Mint In Sealed Box (or Bag)
MISP = Mint In Sealed Package

Another term that some people can familiarise themselves with is NM = Near Mint and also LM = Loose Mint - and thus you can have acronyms like NMIB or LMIB (Near Mint In Box and Loose Mint In Box respectively). These acronyms are commonly used by collectors and in toy publications like magazines, price guides etc.


almost as if it's some meaningless acronym to randomly throw into descriptions the way some people use "LOL".
Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVOFmu2ZIqI&feature=fvsr) :)

[loophole]

Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVOFmu2ZIqI&feature=fvsr) :)

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[roller]

i saw an unopened encore cassette with a mangled sticker today, how would it be described?

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