Quick question about ROTF repaints (legends, deluxes voyagers)

[Paulbot]

So I'm trying to not look too closely at the toys in the Kmart catalogue, but can someone confirm of the following ROTF toys which are just repaints of the toys from the original movie line, which are remoulds, and which are actually brand new toys? Thanks


Legends Bumblebee
Legends Starscream
Legends Ratchet

Deluxe Smokescreen (looks like a Jazz repaint?)
Deluxe Brawl

Voyager Ratchet
Voyager Optimus Prime
Voyager Starscream
Voyager Ironhide

[Zippo]

Legends Bumblebee is new, as is Voyager Starscream
Voyager Ironhide is a remold

[Ironhide63]

Legends Bumblebee is new, as is Voyager Starscream
Voyager Ironhide is a remold

um...Ironhide isn't a remold...just new paint and new guns...call it what you want but Id say its just an upgrade on the same mold.
Brawl is just a repaint with a little tweaking in the arms(fixed the shoulder problem) and im pretty sure Ratchet is repaint too...

[iceburn]

Legend
Bumblebee - New (i thought this was old but am going to buy 1 today hopefully)
Optimus Prime - New
Autobot Springer - New
Jetfire - New
Sideswipe - New
Megatron - New
Ratchet - Repaint
Starscream - Possibly Repaint

Scout
Knock Out - New
Long Haul - New
Depthcharger - New
Dead End - New
Ransack - New
Dirt Boss - New
Rollbar - New

Deluxe
Soundwave - New
Sideswipe - New
Sideways - New
Bumblebee - New
Rampage - New
Breakaway - New
Autobot Skids - New
Autobot Wheelie - New
Chromia - New
Mudflap - New
Smokescreen - Repaint
Dessert Brawl - Repaint

Voyager
Starscream - New
Demolisher - New
The Fallen - New
Ironhide - Repaint/New gun mould
Optimus Prime - Repaint
Dessert Tracker Ratchet - Repaint

Leader
Optimus Prime - Remould?
Megatron - New

[Stompy]

Icey is right with the lot but Legends Starscream is definately a repaint. Leader Optimus is most definately a new mould.

[Firecracker]

Deluxe Bumblebee is only new from the waist up, almost. He'd definitely be classed as a remold.

Edit: There are actually two Deluxe BBs: Preview is the one mentioned above, but also there is Cannon Bumblebee which sports flip-out shoulder cannons but sacrifices a screen accurate chest/torso in the process. As far as I'm aware this one from the waist down is the same as all other BB molds too.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Whirl/Bludgeon 2-pack - repaints of Evac and Wreckage respectively.

[Paulbot]

Thanks for the tips everyone. :)

[jaydisc]

Leader Prime is a truckload more than a remold... It's a completely new toy!

[G1Optimal]

Legend
Bumblebee - New (i thought this was old but am going to buy 1 today hopefully)
Optimus Prime - New
Autobot Springer - New
Jetfire - New
Sideswipe - New
Megatron - New
Ratchet - Repaint
Starscream - Possibly Repaint

Scout
Knock Out - New
Long Haul - New
Depthcharger - New
Dead End - New
Ransack - New
Dirt Boss - New
Rollbar - New

Deluxe
Soundwave - New
Sideswipe - New
Sideways - New
Bumblebee - New
Rampage - New
Breakaway - New
Autobot Skids - New
Autobot Wheelie - New
Chromia - New
Mudflap - New
Smokescreen - Repaint
Dessert Brawl - Repaint

Voyager
Starscream - New
Demolisher - New
The Fallen - New
Ironhide - Repaint/New gun mould
Optimus Prime - Repaint
Dessert Tracker Ratchet - Repaint

Leader
Optimus Prime - Remould?
Megatron - New

**Maybe a Spoiler**, but...

Don't forget G****** (i think he would classed as remold/repaint )
Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen Voyager Class G****** In Package On Ebay (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-voyager-class-grindor-in-package-on-ebay-167619/)
Source:TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com)

[Ironhide63]

**Maybe a Spoiler**, but...

Don't forget G****** (i think he would classed as remold/repaint )
Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen Voyager Class G****** In Package On Ebay (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-voyager-class-grindor-in-package-on-ebay-167619/)
Source:TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com)

its not really a spoiler...because he isn't in the movie...just a remold/repaint...think about it...would Bay be stupid enough to crucify his movie by introducing 2 transformers that turn into the same thing...

[GoktimusPrime]

um...Ironhide isn't a remold...just new paint and new guns...call it what you want but Id say its just an upgrade on the same mold.
That, by definition, means that it's no longer the same mould, but what is commonly known as a retool. I think that's what Zippo meant when he said "remould."

[G1Optimal]

its not really a spoiler...because he isn't in the movie...just a remold/repaint...think about it...would Bay be stupid enough to crucify his movie by introducing 2 transformers that turn into the same thing...

I did it, just in case...
As i am not ruling him out of the movie yet...:)

Although, i hope these are coming out here...
I just noticed that "Deluxe Class Swerve" a Repainted Retool (thanks GoktimusPrime :D ) of Sideswipe up there.

there are probably more as well.:confused:
Walmart.com Stock Photos Reveal First Look at New Figures (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/walmartcom-stock-photos-reveal-first-look-at-new-figures-167494/)
Source:TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com)

I would add them myself it's i didn't want to offend anybody.:D

[Ironhide63]

yes he looks great; Swerve...pretty much G1 movie Sideswipe. Of course he'll never get released in the little town I live in so ill end up having to pass...but that doesnt worry me.

[Paulbot]

There are a few exclusive repaints coming out, and several non-exclusive repaints of the new toys coming next year. When Griffin types up his notes from the Hasbro display he'll list these.