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Kyle
4th June 2009, 06:18 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989

autobreadticon
4th June 2009, 06:51 PM
i get really annouyed when Chinese people get angry when people criticise the Chinese government, claiming its an attack on their country, how so? the socialist government wasn't elected by the people to reflect their idelologies and to claim that this government represents the people of China is appalling , i feel that history has stood still when the people are brainwashed into thinking the people's party is crucial for controlling the large population of China, im so sick of the injustices , everyone deserves the right to demand freedom...

SilverDragon
4th June 2009, 07:32 PM
I find the ability of the Chinese government to simply block out bits of their history to be fascinating. Not that I think it's a good thing, mind-it just shows the incredible amount of control they wield over the country.

In my opinion, China's standing in word affairs would improve immensely if they actually acknowledged the events such as Tienanmen Square that have occurred under the Communist Party's rule. Of course, considering their character, this is about as likely as pigs flying, or Emirate Xaaron getting a toy.

roller
4th June 2009, 07:34 PM
i remember being presented to Cixi

she then sent her army of eunuchs after my friends and i, luckily chiang kai shek was nice enough to give me a role in his regime


They should let Jīn Yùzhàng have a stab at power

i always told the idiots in the concession to help out, next thing you know the bund is crawling with japanese and the petrel is sinking

Vector Sigma 13
4th June 2009, 09:41 PM
I find the ability of the Chinese government to simply block out bits of their history to be fascinating. Not that I think it's a good thing, mind-it just shows the incredible amount of control they wield over the country.




Ditto. I heard today on the radio that the Chinese government still refuses to give away any info on just how many casualties there were.

Tetsuwan Convoy
5th June 2009, 02:58 AM
Oddly enough, June 4th is also the date that the Battle of Midway happened between the Japanese and Amreican fleets in WWII. Often wrongly described as the "decisive" battle that doomed Japan's efforts in the war.

Wonder if June 4 has some sort of curse on it?:confused:

roller
5th June 2009, 10:55 AM
Midway is one of my fave levels in BF 1942 :)

I love arguing with my relatives about tiannemen

some of them are sympathetic to the protesters or revolutionaries (depending on yer view) and the ones who live in mainland china are so indoctrinated with Red propaganda that they dont know anything about history or dont say a word that criticises glorious chairman

i wonder what happened to that defector we heard about a year or so ago?

And why wont my fireplace start up ? it just keeps smoking and not burning

Sam
5th June 2009, 06:22 PM
i get really annouyed when Chinese people get angry when people criticise the Chinese government, claiming its an attack on their country, how so? the socialist government wasn't elected by the people to reflect their idelologies and to claim that this government represents the people of China is appalling , i feel that history has stood still when the people are brainwashed into thinking the people's party is crucial for controlling the large population of China, im so sick of the injustices , everyone deserves the right to demand freedom...

I think some people cannot tell the difference between the people and the government.

I have American friends who get irritated when I tell them I don't like their government. I also have American friends who agree with me heartily. :)

Lint
5th June 2009, 07:33 PM
I find the ability of the Chinese government to simply block out bits of their history to be fascinating. Not that I think it's a good thing, mind-it just shows the incredible amount of control they wield over the country.


I find the ability of the American government to simply block out bits of their history, without using strict censorship to be fascinating. Not that I think it's a good thing, it just shows the incredible amount of amenities they've provided to their people to distract them from caring.


Midway is one of my fave levels in BF 1942 :)

I love arguing with my relatives about tiannemen

some of them are sympathetic to the protesters or revolutionaries (depending on yer view) and the ones who live in mainland china are so indoctrinated with Red propaganda that they dont know anything about history or dont say a word that criticises glorious chairman

And why wont my fireplace start up ? it just keeps smoking and not burning

I love Midway too!

I've found that many of the ones who have lived in mainland china actually acknowledge how shit the government is. Those whose parents or grandparents were expats seem to be more vehemently defensive of their origins because they have no idea how crap life is back in the mainland. Then theres those who do business in china who talk it up because the country is allow them to pay for their three mortgages :rolleyes:

You fireplace wont start up because you either have insufficient air/oxygen or startup fuel. Jar open the door a bit, make sure you have lots of 'light' fuel to build up the heat and pressure required to force smoke out the chimney instead of the outside coldness and wind forcing the smoke back down into your house.

roller
5th June 2009, 10:50 PM
I love Midway too!

I've found that many of the ones who have lived in mainland china actually acknowledge how shit the government is. Those whose parents or grandparents were expats seem to be more vehemently defensive of their origins because they have no idea how crap life is back in the mainland. Then theres those who do business in china who talk it up because the country is allow them to pay for their three mortgages :rolleyes:

You fireplace wont start up because you either have insufficient air/oxygen or startup fuel. Jar open the door a bit, make sure you have lots of 'light' fuel to build up the heat and pressure required to force smoke out the chimney instead of the outside coldness and wind forcing the smoke back down into your house.

I find it amazing that my Chinese Malay relatives still think of themselves as Chinese, despite the fact that the family has been there for 100+yrs and have surely married a malay somewhere along the line
I just luv telling them that their Malaysians NOT chinese :D

The ones in my mums class are mainlanders and Honkies, im so glad the ancestors moved away:D

My relatives will give me a cut if i find any buyers in Australia for their nuts and bolts factory, nails too i think

I love firing the ships cannons and flying the planes in midway
the stupid Bots dont obey orders though

As for the fireplace conundrum, it seems that the wood must have been a bit damp i think the shed has a slight gap in the roof