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benben2142
10th February 2008, 09:18 PM
Hey guys I need some help with this assignment. They said I had to do it on Tomas Edison on the light bulb and it asks you on why it was made and how it works, if anybody has some time can you give me some useful links?

roller
10th February 2008, 09:57 PM
Thomas Alva Edison eh? Go to your school or local library links are not to be trusted, like people on the internet

GoktimusPrime
10th February 2008, 10:16 PM
Here's a useful link:

www.google.com.au

also, it's Thomas Edison - that might get you better results.
If you have any further problems, ask your teacher!

autobreadticon
10th February 2008, 10:59 PM
wikipedia is REALLY reliable (p.s i would avoid using wiki as a reference.....)

just google it..

GoktimusPrime
11th February 2008, 10:29 AM
I tell my students that if they ever use wikipedia as a source, to also back it up with two other independent sources. (-_-)

But yeah, I would also very strongly recommend avoiding wikipedia.
Try a library. :)

Saintly
11th February 2008, 10:32 AM
google is your friend, benben... so are wikis... and if you don't know how to use them, there's always your trusty local libraries :)

griffin
11th February 2008, 01:11 PM
In other words, don't ask other people to do your homework for you. Part of the process of the assignment is seeing if you can do it all yourself, including the research as well as the writing up and submission. Your grading may reflect the submitted piece, but the entire process is your assignment, not just the final submission.
If you don't learn how to do a project yourself, you will have greater problems later in life when you really do need to tackle something on your own.

i_amtrunks
11th February 2008, 02:00 PM
I tell my students that if they ever use wikipedia as a source, to also back it up with two other independent sources. (-_-)

But yeah, I would also very strongly recommend avoiding wikipedia.
Try a library. :)

Certain courses at UWS allow you to use Wikipedia as a secondary resource, it's a bad precedent.

A decent local council library should have plenty of information on Edison, he is among the least obscure inventors.

Bartrim
11th February 2008, 02:49 PM
I believe there is an accurate portrayal of Edison and his work on an episode of Family Guy:p

Jimreborn
11th February 2008, 07:31 PM
:lol I was actually looking for that link on youtube when you said this. That was a classic

"HEY HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL? I GOTTA SIT OVER HERE AND LOOK AT THAT DARK THING!"

GoktimusPrime
11th February 2008, 07:58 PM
Certain courses at UWS allow you to use Wikipedia as a secondary resource, it's a bad precedent.
I've heard that certain courses at UWS are also allowing students to enrol in a course if they pay additional fees in lieu of gaining the UAI cut off mark to get into the course, which - again from what I'm hearing from some students there - is "dumbing down" the course and university. (-_-)

The entire point of having a UAI cut off is to ensure that students are capable of doing the course, demonstrated by prior academic achievement. Paying extra cash doesn't make you smarter! I could understand a university maybe making allowances for a student who missed the UAI cut off and made an appeal on special grounds, and in that case maybe the university were to offer them a chance to academically prove themselves capable before then allowing them to enrol in the actual course of choice. Say for example, you missed out on the required UAI for medicine, but maybe you come from a disadvantaged background - so you made an appeal. I could understand if the university allowed you to do first year Bachelor of Science (biochem major) demanding a credit average, after which they would then allow the student to enrol into 1st year med - because then the student would have academically proven themselves.

But money?! Academically speaking that proves squat. (-_-) And from what I'm hearing, a lot of tutorials are increasingly getting bogged down with students who waste everyone else's time with simple questions or comments that doesn't serve to further the discussion of the tut topic - questions that these students are asking because they consistently fail to understand lectures, texts etc. In effect, these sub-standard students are wasting everyone else's time and money.

P.S.: Speaking of UWS, these individual UWS main campuses really need to become separate universities or colleges. The idea of a university whose main campuses cover side a wide area from Richmond to Macarthur is a joke. I know a law student who enrolled at UWS Parramatta because she lives near Parramatta and wanted to study somewhere close to home. Her course has now been moved to the Macarthur campus this year which means that she now has to travel from home all the way to Campbelltown each day! What a joke! All other universities have their primary campus located in/around the same locale... UWS, as a supposed single university, is far too spread out, especially if they're planning on running the same course across different campuses.

omega3
11th February 2008, 08:11 PM
i remember that simpsons episode where homer wants to be like Edison and they go to the Edison Museum.

NEMESIS PRIME
11th February 2008, 09:28 PM
i remember that simpsons episode where homer wants to be like Edison and they go to the Edison Museum.

LOL i remember that one was a very funny episode! (most episodes are funny though)

Anyway sort of back on topic,benben you shouldnt ask other people to do it for you (like people said previously) the whole point is doing it yourself.

Saintly
11th February 2008, 09:42 PM
hey benben, also one more thing...

use some common sense (though I haven't really look it up at all), why do you think YOU need light? answer that and you should be heading the right direction~

can't answer it, God help you!

llamatron
11th February 2008, 10:35 PM
Wikipedia is a excellent starting point for learning about a topic as it provides a fairly quick overview of the subject and will usually link to further external reading and references. It's not good enough to reference or for anything too technical though.

autobreadticon
12th February 2008, 12:57 AM
edison was that guy in the initial D movie.......

griffin
12th February 2008, 03:52 AM
Wikipedia is a excellent starting point for learning about a topic as it provides a fairly quick overview of the subject and will usually link to further external reading and references. It's not good enough to reference or for anything too technical though.

yeah, what he said. I do that all the time when researching stuff or just wanting to find out the answer to something that is bugging me - I do a quick search at wiki.com and from the first few suggested pages, I see where their source links goto at the bottom of each wiki page.
If they don't have credible source links or reference actual texts, then it isn't reliable enough to accept, or use for an assignment.
It's a good starting point for some basic info, but follow the links or texts to get your assignment info.

GoktimusPrime
12th February 2008, 10:08 AM
Wikipedia is a excellent starting point for learning about a topic as it provides a fairly quick overview of the subject and will usually link to further external reading and references. It's not good enough to reference or for anything too technical though.
In other words, not good for any real serious research. ;)

As with any form of research make sure that you use more than one independent source of information (I would recommend at least three sources), and don't forget to cite your sources in your bibliography so that your audience (teacher) can cross-check the authenticity of your facts (or at least find out where you got the information from and see how accurately you've presented them)

i_amtrunks
12th February 2008, 10:43 AM
I've heard that certain courses at UWS are also allowing students to enrol in a course if they pay additional fees in lieu of gaining the UAI cut off mark to get into the course, which - again from what I'm hearing from some students there - is "dumbing down" the course and university. (-_-)

Dont get me started on UWS, one of the (many) reasons my gf quit teaching was because they moved the course from Kingswod to Bankstown, and all the classes to 5pm starts. Meaning a whole group of young women would have to be around Bankstown after 7pm, not a great proposition.
UWS also dropped a Digital Animation Degree I had applied for, but luckily UNE picked it up and was nice enough to give the UWS people the option to do the course via correspondence based in their Sydney office.

Then there is the whole Nirimba debacle.

It amazes me the good links some Wiki pages/topics have, yet others link to blogs and other such crap.

GoktimusPrime
20th February 2008, 09:55 PM
It's ridiculous how UWS treats itself as a single university - and will relocate classes between different campuses - which is what other universities do, but the difference is that their campuses are usually not very far away from each other - usually within the same post code (or close to it). For example, when I was at UNSW I did everything at the main Kensington Campus but I had like one exam at the Randwick campus - and of course, Randwick is within spitting distance of Kensington (the only difference is that Randwick smells like horse manure :p). UNSW also has a Western Campus which is like across the road (Anzac Parade) from the main Kensington Campus, so it wasn't a huge deal - you could walk the distance!

Having different classes or exams across Bankstown, Parramatta, Richmond, Macarthur, Kingswood etc is nothing short of plain lunacy! If there's a campus in Kingswood and another in Bankstown - I'm sorry, but you're effectively not the same university!! Initially the UWS campuses actually kinda identified themselves as separate universities, e.g.: UWS Richmond, UWS Macarthur, UWS Nepean etc. - but then a few years ago they got rid of all that and merged them all together as just UWS, which as many have seen, has seen classes, courses etc shuffled between the so-called campuses.

Bugger off - just make them separate universities!! e.g. University of Nepean, Macarthur University, Parramatta University, University of Richmond etc.

autobreadticon
20th February 2008, 10:24 PM
i am curious what grade you got, and if you mentioned Dr autobreadticon as a reference?

GoktimusPrime
1st October 2012, 11:05 PM
Can anyone help with the answers for the questions circled please?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/math1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/math2.jpg

GL-Sideswipe
2nd October 2012, 08:58 AM
I'm stumped on both of those :/ what level of maths are these questions, I do year 12 methods at the moment... Hope these questions don't come up on the exam :P

GoktimusPrime
2nd October 2012, 09:22 AM
Four unit (not sure what the VCE equivalent is) -- pretty much the highest level of maths in the NSW HSC. :) Come on... I know some of you have engineering degrees here... step up! ;)

Ultra Mackness
2nd October 2012, 12:30 PM
Hey Gok, this is an integration by parts problem, combined with a watered down version of proof by induction. I'm limited to a phone for internet atm so can't attach anything, but for part a) if n=0 then we just integrate arctan(x) using ibp. Part b is algebraically a bit trickery, but done in the same way. part c you will need to use the results from parts a and b to substitute in for In-2. The second question is also ibp, but try doing the n=0 and n=1 cases first.

GL-Sideswipe- this problem applies some principles you would see in specialist math, but for us in Vic, this is more a first yr unimath problem, you certainly won't see it in methods!

UltraMarginal
2nd October 2012, 12:43 PM
I'm stumped on both of those :/ what level of maths are these questions, I do year 12 methods at the moment... Hope these questions don't come up on the exam :P

Specialist Maths covers some of that if I recall, it's been a while I graduated High school in 96.


Four unit (not sure what the VCE equivalent is) -- pretty much the highest level of maths in the NSW HSC. :) Come on... I know some of you have engineering degrees here... step up! ;)

True, and in my career as an engineer I think I've used integration of any sort maybe 5 times..


Hey Gok, this is an integration by parts problem, combined with a watered down version of proof by induction. I'm limited to a phone for internet atm so can't attach anything, but for part a) if n=0 then we just integrate arctan(x) using ibp. Part b is algebraically a bit trickery, but done in the same way. part c you will need to use the results from parts a and b to substitute in for In-2. The second question is also ibp, but try doing the n=0 and n=1 cases first.

TO-Sideswipe- this problem applies some principles you would see in specialist math, but for us in Box, this is more a first yr unimath problem, you certainly won't see it in methods!

since the question appears to have been answered satisfactorily for the moment, I won't bother brushing the dust off my old textbooks.:o

GoktimusPrime
2nd October 2012, 01:53 PM
Thanks Ultra Mackness! :D