Should I or Shouldnt I?

[Deceptic_Optic]

I was looking at Juzmels collection withh all those unopen boxes earlier and it look so cool and i realise have ROTF toys still in there boxes I was so tempted to open them but then i hesitated? do you guys think i should just open it or have seperate sets of open transformers and one in boxes? any feedbacks?

[blackie]

as i say to everyone

OPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPEN

:P
toys are meant to be played with :)

[Deceptic_Optic]

do you think i should get a second set?

[Paulbot]

do you think i should get a second set?

Maybe of the ones you really like if you can afford to keep a second MISB set.

Perhaps JuzMel can give you some tips on opening Transformers in such a way that you can put them back in their boxes for display.

Or do like some people do and open your new TFs slowly, like one a week. It means you can buy up in the sales and still have new Transformers to play with for the next few weeks/months and have some MISB for display for a while.

[sanbot]

Its really just a matter of how much money you wana fork out.

Leave in box and get 2nd set means double bling bling.

If you're thinking of keeping in boxes for the purpose of gaining value, I hardly think ROTF series is worth it. Its not like its rare of unique.

[GoktimusPrime]

Buying in doubles means spending twice as much (as if this isn't an expensive enough hobby as it is) and also twice as much space (which I also struggle to find more of). If you like to open your toys but prefer to display them sealed, then get everything from Japan because most Japanese toy packaging is designed to be repackaged, even carded toys.

I personally just open the suckers and throw the packaging into the recycling bin. :)

[bruticus]

open your new TFs slowly, like one a week. It means you can buy up in the sales and still have new Transformers to play with for the next few weeks/months and have some MISB for display for a while.

lol... this is exactly what i do... buy up all when they are cheap and then gradually open them over time...
It satisfies the urge and you know that you got them all for a good price...



If you're thinking of keeping in boxes for the purpose of gaining value, I hardly think ROTF series is worth it. Its not like its rare of unique.

Totally aggree with you there... There's no real point keeping ROTF for investment purposes as it will be a long long time before these things get rare...

Your henkei seekers are more likely to appreciate than ROTF...

[jaydisc]

I agree with others regarding ROTF not being the best investment. I buy spares of my favorite toys in case I break them 5-6 years later, then i don't have to worry about tracking down an expensive, vintage toy. I also really like the look of TFs in package, but that's pretty line-specific. Unfortunately, with ROTF, unlike its Universe and Animated predecessors, Hasbro didn't make the side-view display-worthy, which makes spacial demands more heavy.


get everything from Japan because most Japanese toy packaging is designed to be repackaged, even carded toys.

This is not the case anymore, at least with ROTF.

[JuzMel]

Hehehe, most of the Melb. boys here know I do open my TFs but I just package them back nicely into the box as if they are still unopened for ease of display / and keeping them away from dust. You just have to be very patient.

I keep every plastic string tie and cardboard backings back into the box after I open the figure. Then I play with it for awhile, have it displayed in robot mode then its back to the box. Don't be fooled :D - a lot of my movie 07 / cybertron figures have actually been opened before. You just have to go through the hassle of slowing tying all the string ties back and fitting it back in the box.

And as Gok had mentioned, Takara stuff is so much easier to open and put back into package because they don't use string ties and instead mold the plastic according to the figure's shape to cover it. Hasbro's more lazy with their insane amount of string ties.

It's quite straight-forward for Voyagers, Leaders and Special Packs because they come in a box. For deluxe figures if you wanna keep the packaging intact, it's a bit more tricky. You have to slowly run a penknife at the bottom of the packaging, then use your fingers to slowly push from the bottom to peel off the packaging from the cardboard. I have attached a pic for u to see.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r70/milassilem/Transformers/fan-art/rotf_breakaway.jpg
Once 3 sides of the packaging is peeled off from the cardboard, you can tilt open from the bottom in an angle and pull the figure out with the inner plastic mould. This method was actually taught by Icy who's more of an MISB collector. ;) :) And I think it was someone else who passed on the method to him too. :p The same method applies for scouts and legends.

I personally don't buy a set of doubles just to open as well. I only have doubles of figures I really like. Spend the money of other TFs you don't have instead. ;) And as most of the boys said, ROTF is not a good investment for extras. I have some Movie 07 figures that even at the cheapest prices nobody wants them. :( And yeah like Paulbot said, open your TFs slowly so that you can still have your MI(S)B collection on display - looking cool :D while having a couple of figures to play with. :) Hope this helps.

[Wheel-J]

In case it wasn't mentioned yet, another factor that some may consider when buying spares for MISB collection is the space you have if you would want those voluminous packagings/boxes be displayed as well. If you keep all your packagings, you know what I'm saying. ;) Otherwise, just like me, you may just keep it in storage until you find a suitable place for them.

[Sky Shadow]

If you keep all your packagings, you know what I'm saying. ;) Otherwise, just like me, you may just keep it in storage until you find a suitable place for them.

I have just such a place. I call it 'the recycling bin'.

[Lord_Zed]

Leave them in there boxes for a short time to appreciate them, then OPEN them.

That's what I do anyway. Unless I can't resist opening onen straight away.

[Autocon]

ahh i was going to ask juzmel about the rotf dels/scouts
juzmel: where do you purchase a penknife from? what is it exactly?

ta:D

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Or do like some people do and open your new TFs slowly, like one a week. It means you can buy up in the sales and still have new Transformers to play with for the next few weeks/months and have some MISB for display for a while.This.

[liegeprime]

ahh i was going to ask juzmel about the rotf dels/scouts
juzmel: where do you purchase a penknife from? what is it exactly?

ta:D

To answer your query , if I may juzmel? Penknife = Cutter from arts and craft stores or just your plain newsagent will have this among the school supplies.

[GoktimusPrime]

...you can even get them from supermarkets. They're also known as Stanley knives or box cutters. But ever since Car Robot came out in 2000 I've gotten into the habit of calling them "CUTTAH BEEEAAAAM!" ;)

[Doubledealer]

My advice is to open them and display them as an army. Buying doubles is just a waste of money that could be spent on different Transformers. Re: packaging, for boxed toys I cut out the front and backs and toss away the rest. For deluxes I carefully run a knife around the edge of the plastic so as not to damage the card then toss away all the plastic. You keep all the good bits, space is saved and you get to play with the toy...Good enough for me. :p

[turtle boy]

Open em up mate, I have BIB stuff and some BISB, but it's all stuff that is hard to come by, anything that can be found easly, is worth opening :)

[Saintly]

open! i still have a few MISB but that's only because I don't have the time to open but I do sit them on the table, serving a reminder to open :)

[JuzMel]

To answer your query , if I may juzmel? Penknife = Cutter from arts and craft stores or just your plain newsagent will have this among the school supplies.
hehe sure no worries. Thanks guys... yup Penknife = arts and crafts cutter.. same same. :p We just call them penknife back home..

Start opening your favourite one first! ;)

[STL]

I'm one of those guys who started out as Juzmel and opened carefully to reseal if I wanted too. But I started to buy doubles of most of my toys, one for MISB display purpose, the other for play. It wasn't always that way. Originally I bought doubles b/c a toy was my favourite mold and I worreid that I'd have to chase it down the line and that that would be a massive pain.

Then through theDamned and Jaydisc, I started to have an attraction to displaying toys. So I started to buy lots of toys purely just for their displayability. I went crazy in the first movie, TFM, Classics 2.0, Animated. Some of the doubling up was warrated as I really enjoyed most of the Animated molds and Classics 2.0 had lovely packaging. But toys from TFM really really irked me as some of them were pretty average and I had spares of them! :eek:

So I've now reached a point where I continue to buy doubles of ROTF toys but if and only if I like the mold or they're show cast. Otherwise, only the 1 for me. So far that's been Preview BB, Smokescreen, Desert Attack Brawl, Breakaway and many more to come I'm sure.

But cost's a big issue. The other issue that's not to be forgotten is space. YOu've got to remember you've only got so much room. In my collection pics (see my sig) you'll see how big a room I have access to yet even now I'm struggling to find space to display everything. So there's an upper limit. Boxes take up lots of space and you've gotta be quite selective about the line you're interested in and make sure they will look good displayed.

[G1Optimal]

.....

So I've now reached a point where I continue to buy doubles of ROTF toys but if and only if I like the mold or they're show cast. Otherwise, only the 1 for me. So far that's been Preview BB, Smokescreen, Desert Attack Brawl, Breakaway and many more to come I'm sure........



That's good to hear i am not the only one...:cool: :)
and i am hoping not the only one that gets doubles in case of Breakages for the Main cast and/or Favorites.:)

And about the packaging:
I try and keep what my Transformers came it for Storage purposes.;)

[STL]

And about the packaging:[/I]
I try and keep what my Transformers came it for Storage purposes.;)

Trust me, it only lasts so long. I originally kept all my packaging but over a year ago it all went. And still I struggle for space!

[1orion2many]

:)Don't waste your time with a stanley or pen knife, use a blowtorch, kill 2 birds with one stone, opens your toys and destroys the bubbles and boxes and don't worry about the melted mess you can always call it battle damage:p:D. Yes I open my toys in case you can't tell:D

[Tabias Prime]

Open them.they must be set free. not to open is wrong...:D:D:D

I only have one that remains in the box.My Alternity Convoy only because i think the packaging is just as good as the toy:p.He's only been out once.

[G1Optimal]

Trust me, it only lasts so long. I originally kept all my packaging but over a year ago it all went. And still I struggle for space!

:eek:
Hope you kept The Techspec's/Bio's of the ones that had them?

[blackie]

:eek:
Hope you kept The Techspec's/Bio's of the ones that had them?

STL loves his techspecs :P

[GoktimusPrime]

Tech specs can be clipped and saved. :) At least, they used to be - up until Armada. (-_-) And quite frankly, most tech specs that they've written since then haven't even been worth collecting.

And can someone explain to me why Hasbro and 3H just _refuse_ to give us tech specs as collectable cards?!? Takara's been doing it since G2 (although it became standardised in Beast Wars)... I don't see why Hasbro doesn't follow suit. Not even with BotCon exclusives where they just give us those oversized ones. <sigh>

[STL]

Tech specs can be clipped and saved. :) At least, they used to be - up until Armada. (-_-) And quite frankly, most tech specs that they've written since then haven't even been worth collecting.

And can someone explain to me why Hasbro and 3H just _refuse_ to give us tech specs as collectable cards?!? Takara's been doing it since G2 (although it became standardised in Beast Wars)... I don't see why Hasbro doesn't follow suit. Not even with BotCon exclusives where they just give us those oversized ones. <sigh>

In the case of 3H, they have no excuse really. Their cards are large and cumbersome and make no sense given that it's supposed to be collector orientated. How are you display such non-standard sized cards? On top of that, the back of the cards are a plain light brown/gray cardboard. I'm not sure about this year but on previous year's that's certainly the case. If it's supposed to be for colllectors make it collectable, not just an after thought. Pretty pathetic.

In Hasbro's case I can see the pros anc cons.
The pros
- Name/character recognition
- Another way for the audience to relate to the characters through something more tangible than just the toy
Which both build intrinsic value within the brand

The cons
- cost of art, design, colouring, production, packaging
- It's hard to retain kids for more than 2-3 years anyway. IIRC they've openly stated that they only expect most kids to buy for a few years anyway. Tech specs are investments in characters that build intrinsic value that there needs to be long-term benefits for. if you're custoemr is going to leave (grow up) anyway, why bother?

[G1Optimal]

STL loves his techspecs :P

My Mistake...:o:o
Thought when he said Got rid of "all" his Packaging i thought he meant that as well.:cool:

Should of thought ...
"Of course he wouldn't throw that out" what was i thinking.:D

[sanbot]

So whats the verdict Deceptic? Havn't heard a peep from you since ur original question?

[JuzMel]

So whats the verdict Deceptic? Havn't heard a peep from you since ur original question?
yeah +1, so you opening them or what? :p :D

[Deceptic_Optic]

decided il open the whole lot... and just get double of the ones i want. and just keep it all in tip top conditions. thanks for all the feedback guys, visiting gok in the weekend make me realise a couple of things and it help alot. every feedback was appreciated thanks again guys. :D

[sanbot]

decided il open the whole lot... and just get double of the ones i want. and just keep it all in tip top conditions. thanks for all the feedback guys, visiting gok in the weekend make me realise a couple of things and it help alot. every feedback was appreciated thanks again guys. :D

Good call dude!