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kup
17th February 2008, 10:51 AM
There has been pics released from NY's Toy Fair. They include the Classics 2.0 figures (properly transformed) and 2 Universe repaints.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/021508nytftransprev.html

I am not sure if the Blaster and Quickmix repaints are supposed to be in the Classics Universe but they are not appealing to me. Powerglide looks much better properly transformed but the colors are still a shocker and I prefer to wait a year or so for Takara to release a proper one.

The other figures look very good including Sunstreaker and Prowl. With Onslaught, I am not sure if that Monzo decal is supposed to be there or if its photoshoped but it looks awful and out of place. I plan to remove the SWAT labels from the alt mode but the Mozo one looks to be on painted surface making it very difficult.

I am happy that Prowl didnt get such a cheap paint job and that the missile appear to be painted.

Out of all of them (not counting repaints) the only disappointing Classics is Powerglide.
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Gutsman Heavy
17th February 2008, 12:07 PM
Lol Blaster looks terrible!

dirge
17th February 2008, 12:11 PM
I still find myself intensely disliking Powerglide, but it's nice to see Sunstreaker's car mode transformed properly.

Won't be going near those repaints.

SofaMan
17th February 2008, 12:44 PM
Yup, Blaster looks really terrible. I mean, Universe Ramjet terrible.

I'm still going to get Powerglide, but I may wait until the inevitable repaint where Hasbro miraculously decides to do what the fans wanted in the first place AFTER they've also all bought the crappy original. :D

griffin
17th February 2008, 12:52 PM
Also Classics Galvatron. Very Galvatron robot mode, but they made him a tank instead of a cannon on treads (which is basically what a tank is anyway).
http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=9019&pic=Universe+Deluxe+Galvatron.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=9019&pic=Universe+Deluxe+Galvatron+%281%29.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20

GoktimusPrime
17th February 2008, 02:26 PM
I would've preferred Galvatron as a space cannon/gun similar to his G1 alt modes instead of a tank. I don't really see the need for it considering that his G1 alt mode isn't a realistic gun. :/ Still, it's cool that he's a whole new mould instead of just a repainted Megatron. :)

Trailer Park Ninja
17th February 2008, 02:48 PM
Ok Blaster is the worst one of the lot for me now. Why couldn't he just be a ghetto blaster? Don't tell me they couldn't do it.

kup
17th February 2008, 04:01 PM
I like Classics Galvatron's robot mode but I dislike the alt mode chosen. It would have been better if they had added more purple instead of gray and a bit less conventional Tank shape to resemble his space canon more.
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Pipesqueak
17th February 2008, 04:08 PM
I'm fine with Galvatron being a tank but why only a deluxe? It will display very poorly next to voyager Megatron. ''And then Megatron was reformatted into the much mightier, but much titchier, Galvatron.'' Also I hope the final deco has either a lot more purple or none. At the moment it looks like they made a grey toy then decided to slap a few patches of purple on to make it more recognisably Galvatron.

Still loving Sunstreaker, Prowl, Octane and Onslaught.

Lord_Zed
17th February 2008, 06:37 PM
Hmmm the Deluxes look better in these photos.

Not sure about the two big boys, Onslaught has a great robot mode, but I don't dig his gigantic lethal force S.W.A.T team veichle mode, And Powerglides colours are all wrong, mind you I do like his Jet mode, even in Hothouse colours.

Galvatron looks pretty good for a deluxe, although I have to ask why is he a deluxe? So he can fight Rodimus I guess????? I dunno, I can deal with Powerglide being large cause he turns into a big plane, but a Tank is also big, along with Onslaught this is starting to get annoying.

I looked at Blaster, now I'm laughing its a sad laugh though.

And lastly who the hell is Heavy Duty, I don't recall him from G1? In fact I thought he was a G.I. Joe
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Robzy
17th February 2008, 07:40 PM
Yep - looking forward to these. Still don't like Powerglide's colours :rolleyes:

dirge
17th February 2008, 10:29 PM
I like Galvatron, and I don't mind him being a deluxe in itself - but a deluxe Galvatron would look pretty odd next to an ultra Powerglide.

Not that I have any plans to get Powerglide.

Lord_Zed
17th February 2008, 10:49 PM
but a deluxe Galvatron would look pretty odd next to an ultra Powerglide.


Not to mention mega Megatron, Ultra Magnus and Ultra Onslaught

dirge
17th February 2008, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=Lord_Zed;8742]Not to mention mega Megatron/QUOTE]

Well, Megatron is all wingplates so it wouldn't look that wrong. Both of them overshadowed a (white) Powerglide is just ridiculous.

1orion2many
17th February 2008, 10:56 PM
:)Well I'm happy enough with Powerglide even if no one else seems to be:p, I would have preferred the old style colouring but I like the mold enough to ignore this minor flaw. If I really dislike it I believe i have enough painting skills from doing Warhammer and Warhammer 40K to address this problem but I'll wait and see once he is up close and personel:D.

dirge
17th February 2008, 11:00 PM
It's not the colour that bugs me most about Powerglide, FWIW. I hate those orange outbursts on his chest - and they're no doubt for some lame light gimmick.

liegeprime
17th February 2008, 11:21 PM
lets just hope Hasbro Aus doesnt f#$@ us fans here in Aus and decide Not to have all these new figures for release here......:( Ill get them all except for the repaints.)

Sam
17th February 2008, 11:41 PM
I would have liked Blaster better if he changed into his G1 alt mode. The plane thing feels a bit weird.

The rest seem pretty good - not sure about the Quickmix one though. I think I like Prowl the best so far.

STL
18th February 2008, 01:06 AM
All the Classics look great. My problems aren't with the molds at thsi point but
a.) The colouring: but I have confidence Takara will easily resolve this.
b.) the issue of scale w/ regard to Galvatron especially. It won't stop me from buying it but it feels wrong to have a Galvatron that will be dwarfed by Voyager Prime or Jetfire and even Megatron. Powergilde being larger and an Ultra I can understand. Optimus wasn't always the tallest bot you've got to remember. But a leader lacking presence is really unforgiveable. Galvatron will probably be my biggest disappointment.

Voyagers... not feeling them. I'm liable to grab the Heavy Bomb but Blaster... if I'm desperate.

Saintly
18th February 2008, 09:36 AM
galvatron looks mighty fine... especially the alt mode! :P

and really.. only the new moulds looks good, the repaints kinda sux particularly blaster :/

i_amtrunks
18th February 2008, 10:12 AM
Galvatron is lovely, he will look good standing besides Tank Unicron!

The Legends class figures are nice too, I'd love to see a full size Red Alert (made from either the Sideswipe or Cybertron Hot Shot mould).

Lord_Zed
18th February 2008, 06:31 PM
It's not the colour that bugs me most about Powerglide, FWIW. I hate those orange outbursts on his chest - and they're no doubt for some lame light gimmick.

Both the giants bother me, Onslaughts veichle mode looks like it might be oversized when I see it in reall life, and Powerglide is white. That said I really don't see any reason for Hasbro to make either of these guys giants, except to as you hinted fill them with lame cheap gimmicks and jack up the price. I'll be getting these 2 on the discount shelf, or no at all methinks.

Love the deluxes though, even the imperfect Galvatron.

Tetsuwan Convoy
18th February 2008, 09:54 PM
The deluxes look sweet, although I would have preferred Galvs to be a cannon. (Megs = gun, Galvs = Cannon!) But the tank doesn't look too bad at all.

PG I will wait for Tak Toms colour. The plane looks OK, but the robot mode needs PG'S red colour IMO.

I dig Onslaught. Nice powerful Robot mode. Shame he will be taller than everyone though......

Blaster? BARF! That looks horrid! PASS!

The Cement truck doesn't look as bad, but I didn't like the original sculpting of the toy.

Yay for new! Boo for old (and ugly re-paints!)

Robzy
18th February 2008, 10:44 PM
Yay for new! Boo for old (and ugly re-paints!)

Yep! You said it perfectly!

kup
19th February 2008, 12:41 PM
TF Universe Classics in packaging:

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/universe/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsID=0A6E65F5-D56F-E112-4AEEE6791C6547FA

It kind of looks like a hybrid between movie packaging and the original classics box/card art.

I just realized that Octane (Tankor :( ) appears not to have a proper arm and rather a stupid spin gimmick similar to the Classics green Tank Megatron. This is dissapointing as I hate it when a whole limb is replaced with an awkward gimmick such as what they did with Tank Megatron. Before I thought that the weapon was removable.

The above has soured my enjoyment of that figure.

Also something a bit disturbing about this packagings is that they all seem to emphasize on some dumb weapon gimmick similar the movie FABS. Prowl has the "With Acid Blasters!" while Octane has "with Melee blade!"

I dont like these gimmicks at all as Hasbro is notorious for sacrificing toy design and aesthetic in favor of lame gimmicks.
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Bartrim
19th February 2008, 12:59 PM
Maybe Prowl has real acid blasters.:p

Now that is a gimmick that woudl sell:D

Saintly
19th February 2008, 04:33 PM
I guess Hasbro wants to highlight what weapon the TF is using... then the kids owning them would go to their mates, "mine comes with a melee blade", "oooooh I'm scared but mine comes with an acid blaster, which mean I can attack you without coming near you!" if you know what I mean :)

Eazy D
19th February 2008, 04:52 PM
Galvatron is a midget! It seems to be a nice mold but you can't have a decepticon leader as a deluxe. Its an outrage.....I had hoped so desperately for a G1 inspired voyager galvatron that i could display against voyager ultra magnus. Now I'll end up with this teensy weensy thing. I'm also a bit put off by the colouring. The toy fair pics show the grey bits to be pretty green (like greenscream) but the official pics (linked by griffin in one of his posts) are a much nicer shade of grey. Oh dear Hasbro - you've stuffed this one up good and proper.

Lord_Zed
19th February 2008, 05:56 PM
I'd rather have mini Galvatron to a repaint of Megs. in fact I dare say i'd rather a Deluxe of anything if given the option, as the larger a Transformer toy gets, the more lame gimmicks Hasbro will stuff into it.


Kup wrote

I just realized that Octane (Tankor ) appears not to have a proper arm and rather a stupid spin gimmick similar to the Classics green Tank Megatron. This is dissapointing as I hate it when a whole limb is replaced with an awkward gimmick such as what they did with Tank Megatron. Before I thought that the weapon was removable.

It does look that way in those pics doesn't it, thats super sad. I just wait for the package thats tagline reads "With gimmicky super gimmick gimmick!"

dirge
19th February 2008, 07:58 PM
I'd rather have mini Galvatron to a repaint of Megs. in fact I dare say i'd rather a Deluxe of anything if given the option, as the larger a Transformer toy gets, the more lame gimmicks Hasbro will stuff into it.


So true. Or, they'll just vastly scale up a simple design and charge ridiculous prices. Supreme Starscream & Cheetor come to mind.

kup
19th February 2008, 08:15 PM
Looks like I may have been right the first time and wrong in my last post.

The Club magazine scans (the mistransformed pics) have Octane without his weapon and displaying both fists. Phew! :)

I hope that the pics we are seeing now only looks like the weapon is built in and not some foul last minute remold.

Since several colored pics of the Universe classics have already been publicly released, is it alright now to post the scans of the magazine?
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reillyd
19th February 2008, 10:01 PM
Kup, I'd be -very- careful about posting any scans, as the club has consistantly said it would forfeit membership. Unless you post it anonymously, in a way that can't be traced back ....... :P

kup
20th February 2008, 05:34 AM
Kup, I'd be -very- careful about posting any scans, as the club has consistantly said it would forfeit membership. Unless you post it anonymously, in a way that can't be traced back ....... :P

I am not a club member. The scans I have were found on the net. I am not going to post unless I get a green light from Griffin or one of the mods.
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griffin
20th February 2008, 03:09 PM
You can post a link to another website that has the scans, so that it is their butts on the line if they are members. But I would still be making sure we don't reveal too much of the magazine, to maintain the incentive to join.