Tony Martin: Transfan Enemy

[TheDirtyDigger]

http://www.thescrivenersfancy.com/scarcely-relevant/2009/07/22/optimus-schmoptimus.aspx

Our very own genechan gets first reply down the bottom of the article too.

[sanbot]

Was it a movie optimus that he stepped on?

[Gutsman Heavy]

I think it was the recent Universe Reissue of G1 Prime

[Kyle]

Pinkimus.

[kup]

From the hints given in the last paragraph, it seems that he stepped on a Pinkimus Prime 25th Anniversary reissue not a vintage 1984 figure (He would be dead now if it were vintage).

I could fix it :)

[kup]

Yep, confirmed its Pinkimus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llB4NZCbJs

[llamatron]

Should have used an AFA G1 Prime instead.

Oh nerds, will you ever stop overreacting?

[FFN]

Poor Tony. I recognised it as Universe reissue Prime by it's slightly off colours. But disregarding people who (apparently) cared more for the monetary worth of the toy (which, as we know, isn't worth a lot), I reckon people were more offended by him stepping on an icon of their childhoods.

Tony Martin still rocks, in my opinion, and like he, I am a big fan of all things Shaun Micallef.

[Lock'n'Load]

Firstly, I personally don't like TBYG. I saw it for the first time last night and changed the channel half way through thinking how can anyone enjoy this crap. Secondly, I saw this on the ad and saying I did not enjoy it is an understatement.

[FFN]

Firstly, I personally don't like TBYG. I saw it for the first time last night and changed the channel half way through thinking how can anyone enjoy this crap. Secondly, I saw this on the ad and saying I did not enjoy it is an understatement. FAIL

[sanbot]

After watching the Youtube clip, I couldn't help but feel a bit of sadness. It might just be a reissue but to see any transformer getting broken, it really breaks my heart!

[kup]

After watching the Youtube clip, I couldn't help but feel a bit of sadness. It might just be a reissue but to see any transformer getting broken, it really breaks my heart!

And that's exactly what has really pissed off a lot of people.

Pinkimus is a worthless piece of crap reissue (if you can call him that since he is so crappily made) BUT he is still an Optimus Prime.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

One less Pinkimus = fine by me (you'd think most older TF fans would be used to people 'stepping on their childhood' by now), though Tony points out that fans should know the 'going rate for an OP' but seems to think it's the real deal - bit of a difference $-wise between reissues and old-school, and that holds true for any collectible hobby.
Still (IMO) a lame 'joke' for a lame show, how I miss the glorious days of Full Frontal.:(
EDIT - scrap that, watching his face when it split in 2 was pretty funny.

[Lock'n'Load]

FAIL

I'm allowed to not like a show

[FFN]

One less Pinkimus = fine by me (you'd think most older TF fans would be used to people 'stepping on their childhood' by now), though Tony points out that fans should know the 'going rate for an OP' but seems to think it's the real deal - bit of a difference $-wise between reissues and old-school, and that holds true for any collectible hobby.
Still (IMO) a lame 'joke' for a lame show, how I miss the glorious days of Full Frontal.:( You've got to be kidding me. Micallef's sketch work since leaving Full Frontal was much better. For one thing, he wasn't forced to repeatedly play characters (though I do love David McGhan's docos and Roger Explosion).

Micallef's comments, asides and personality is pretty much why I watch TAYG. He reminds me of John Cleese in a way.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

You've got to be kidding me. Micallef's sketch work since leaving Full Frontal was much better. For one thing, he wasn't forced to repeatedly play characters (though I do love David McGhan's docos and Roger Explosion).My best friend's a big Micallef fan, but I find most of his work since then has been pretty hit-and-miss with more misses than hits (though his hits are great) - it's generally a bit too random for my tastes.
JMO.:)

[sanbot]

Still (IMO) a lame 'joke' for a lame show, how I miss the glorious days of Full Frontal.:(


+1 Had so many fond memories of Full Frontal.

[GoktimusPrime]

Ummm... hasn't this already been discussed here? (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=4584)

[kup]

Ummm... hasn't this already been discussed here? (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=4584)

No, this is a very specific incident while the other is the show in general. This thread is actually good because this incident has potential to derail the other thread and make it about one thing rather than TF references in the show in general.

[GoktimusPrime]

Fairy 'nuff. :)

[Thanatos]

Call me crazy here but I don't think there's a big deal to be had here people. Each person can do what they want with their figures. Couple of issues here:

A) Its televised entertainment for the regular public (ie not adult Transformer collectors)
B) He was a member of the baby boomers, who are the least likely to recognize the figure for what it is.

I mean, does it matter? Even if it was an original G1 prime, as big a shame as it would be it isn't worth this level of discussion or concern :\

[kup]

Call me crazy here but I don't think there's a big deal to be had here people. Each person can do what they want with their figures. Couple of issues here:

A) Its televised entertainment for the regular public (ie not adult Transformer collectors)
B) He was a member of the baby boomers, who are the least likely to recognize the figure for what it is.

I mean, does it matter? Even if it was an original G1 prime, as big a shame as it would be it isn't worth this level of discussion or concern :\

If it were a vintage G1 Prime it would be one less in the world for future generations to enjoy.

Now that's melodrama and ham at the same time! :D

[dirge]

Tony's right that he's not a baby boomer. The "Baby Boom" was in the decade following WWII, in Australia. Tony was born in 1964. In New Zealand.

For some reason Australia presently has this fascination with these generation labels. Babies born in Tony's era don't fit into "Baby Boomers" or "Generation X". The only generation he is part of is the D-Generation.

TBH, I couldn't care less what happens to a Pinkimus on TV. It's not my possession, so it's of no consequence to me.

[Robzy]

Tony's right that he's not a baby boomer. The "Baby Boom" was in the decade following WWII, in Australia. Tony was born in 1964. In New Zealand.The definition of "Baby Boomer" changes ALL the time though!

One easy way to remember the years (of when Baby Boomers are born) is supposedly to reverse the numbers... ie 46-64. So, technically, he is a Baby Boomer if you go by that timeline.


The only generation he is part of is the D-Generation.Agreed! :D


TBH, I couldn't care less what happens to a Pinkimus on TV. Agreed again!

[dirge]

The definition of "Baby Boomer" changes ALL the time though!

One easy way to remember the years (of when Baby Boomers are born) is supposedly to reverse the numbers... ie 46-64. So, technically, he is a Baby Boomer if you go by that timeline.

Agreed! :D


It changes depending on the context. The Australian boom didn't last quite as long as the US boom. The Baby Boom didn't hit every developed country, since some weren't as involved in WWII (or at all in some cases, such as Switzerland, Sweden). But yeah. Tony's pretty much at the extreme end of what could be considered the boom, but his birth & childhood in NZ pretty much rules him out of the Australian Baby Boom.

Certainly he's too old to have been into Transformers as a kid, which is I guess the relevent aspect here.

[liegeprime]

hehehe, I didnt know about all this hoopla was being discussed here :D I just stumbled on it on you tube and left a comment (neilcdc)... it looks like the guy who stepped on Prime didnt know what he was at the start, from the look on his face when he got shattered. I for one dont know this guy, Tony Martin, can anyone care to share what's his claim to fame? Sorry not born here so I have no idea who he is.

[roller]

liege he is a comedian originally from sheepland

he was on several comedy shows in the 90s such as "The Late show"

i also have one of his comics which has him and Mick Molloy


I can't believe people are getting upset, so what if its optimus prime?? Yes, its a waste of a perfectly good toy, or not good depending on your age

[GoktimusPrime]

He once admitted that he looks like Wally from Where's Wally? and that people often come up to him in public, point at him and remark, "There you are!" :p

[Paulbot]

What a stupid #@W$ing thread this is.

He didn't know it was a Transformer toy. He probably expected a toy truck to take the pressure it probably would if it wasn't made up of two connecting parts.

Yeah sure Tony Martin hates Transformers and destroys them in his spare time.

Good grief

He probably does hate the movies but most people with good movie taste do.

You do know that he used the TFTM soundtrack repeatedly on Get This?

[GoktimusPrime]

He probably does hate the movies but most people with good movie taste do.
I liked the Transformer movies! (T_T)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/nigahiga_pwned.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhb89V43KWc)

[TheDirtyDigger]

What a stupid #@W$ing thread this is.



I thought it'd be a good opportunity to link to Tony's scrivener's fancy site as I was a massive Get This fan and love his work.

I also saw an opportunity to upset some nerds in the process. :cool:

[dirge]

I liked the Transformer movies! (T_T)


Maybe we should turn this into a Gok bashing thread then? We can throw Pinkimuses at him :D

[GoktimusPrime]

You dare challenge my dignity?!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/cosplay/th_cosplay2k2.jpg...aw snap. :p

[bruticus]

Hmm..
from the youtube clip, someone calls out "ride it! ride it!" so Tony Martin obliges under peer pressure.
So it doesnt even sound like it was his original intention to ride the thing let alone break it.

i say move on people...

[Bartrim]

Not even Michael Bay could blow this incident so far out of proportion:p

[JuzMel]

Pity the silly bugger who didn't know that it was Optimus Prime.. :rolleyes:

[turtle boy]

I yelled death treats at the TV, my bad

[Sky Shadow]

"My boyfriend sat there, open mouthed, then said 'they have NO appreciation for how much that thing is worth'. And they say our generation (X / Y) are clueless."

Seriously, these people are clueless. Anyone who claims to be knowledgeable on the issue and yet thinks that any G1 Optimus Prime is so valuable that damaging one is worth blowing this non-issue up to this proportion are the stupid ones, not the people who are just too ignorant to know what it was. My only thought on this is that it's so obviously a 2009 Pinkimus that I know if I was on that programme I might have been hesitant to put it in the eighties just in case it was a trick question and they said that the toy was actually released in the noughties. :)

[turtle boy]

"My boyfriend sat there, open mouthed, then said 'they have NO appreciation for how much that thing is worth'. And they say our generation (X / Y) are clueless."

Seriously, these people are clueless. Anyone who claims to be knowledgeable on the issue and yet thinks that any G1 Optimus Prime is so valuable that damaging one is worth blowing this non-issue up to this proportion are the stupid ones, not the people who are just too ignorant to know what it was. My only thought on this is that it's so obviously a 2009 Pinkimus that I know if I was on that programme I might have been hesitant to put it in the eighties just in case it was a trick question and they said that the toy was actually released in the noughties. :)

I do agree with you there, I just don't like seeing transformers being broken, even if it's Wheelie:)

[blackie]

this thread just keeps going......

[Kyle]

This is so silly...

So it is ok for the comic/cartoon/movie writers to kill off Transformers characters in their stories, but not ok for someone to kill a Pinkimus toy (without even knowing it is a Transformer)???

Move on people...

[valkyrie_76]

Ahhh D-Gen and the Late Show..........now that was comedy :D

CHAMPAGNE COMEDY !!!!!

[kup]

What a stupid #@W$ing thread this is.

He didn't know it was a Transformer toy. He probably expected a toy truck to take the pressure it probably would if it wasn't made up of two connecting parts.

Yeah sure Tony Martin hates Transformers and destroys them in his spare time.

Good grief

He probably does hate the movies but most people with good movie taste do.

You do know that he used the TFTM soundtrack repeatedly on Get This?

He is a herald of Unicron.

[TheDirtyDigger]

This is so silly...

So it is ok for the comic/cartoon/movie writers to kill off Transformers characters in their stories, but not ok for someone to kill a Pinkimus toy (without even knowing it is a Transformer)???



It's pretty wasteful from an environmental perspective.

[GoktimusPrime]

This is so silly...

So it is ok for the comic/cartoon/movie writers to kill off Transformers characters in their stories, but not ok for someone to kill a Pinkimus toy (without even knowing it is a Transformer)???

Move on people...
I think some fans are looking for someone to accuse of raping their childhood - Bob Skir, Michael Bay, Tony Martin... :p


It's pretty wasteful from an environmental perspective.
Let's hope they threw the remains into the recycling bin! That toy is mostly plastic after all. :) Otherwise perhaps they could donate the remains to everyone's favourite collector of junkers - roller! :D

[TheDirtyDigger]

Let's hope they threw the remains into the recycling bin! That toy is mostly plastic after all. :) Otherwise perhaps they could donate the remains to everyone's favourite collector of junkers - roller! :D

Ah but is is that KO quality pink and grey crap actually recyclable plastic?

[Bartrim]

Ahhh D-Gen and the Late Show..........now that was comedy :D

CHAMPAGNE COMEDY !!!!!

Note to self watch best bits of the late show dvd when I get home:D

[liegeprime]

I think some fans are looking for someone to accuse of raping their childhood - Bob Skir, Michael Bay, Tony Martin... :p


So, since we all kinda watched the movie even though we had warning signs its not gonna be as good as we had hoped ( its Michael Bay, c'mon!) does it mean its kinda "rape with consent" coz no one pointed a gun to our head to pay and watch it:D:D hehe

[GoktimusPrime]

So, since we all kinda watched the movie even though we had warning signs its not gonna be as good as we had hoped ( its Michael Bay, c'mon!) does it mean its kinda "rape with consent" coz no one pointed a gun to our head to pay and watch it hehe
See here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=116467&postcount=11) :) But yeah, I mean if you really wanna you-know-what with the woman/man of your dreams, and you both consent and it turns out to be lousy... it ain't rape. :p

[strop]

Why are people talking about that lame show talking about your generation with the transformer braking, it happened I personally did not care at all really.

Also if only Michael Bay does the transformer movies we should be grateful as well no one else stepped up to do them. I for one loved it the battle scenes were awesome and it dove more into the story line of the Fallen for this genre of the transfandom.

[TheDirtyDigger]

this genre of the transfandom.


Which genre of the transfandom?

[Tiby]

I saw this and was a bit disappointed, but then I kind of feel the same way about people who cannibalise figures to make a custom. The show destroyed a Transformer for entertainment, but so do many collectors for customs, kitbashes and so on.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing the work of customisers, and appreciate the creativity that went into them, but I still feel that there is something sad about destroying a figure, for whatever the reason.

[blackie]

Here is what i think we should do:

1. wreck tony martin
or
2. Wreck more transformers?

either will be fun in the end

or

maybe we start a jihad on all enemies of transformers??
could be fun
lets start with Michael bay?

[SMHFConvoy]

Will you guys stop using the term "raping my childhood" rape is a serious matter.

[Tiby]

Will you guys stop using the term "raping my childhood" rape is a serious matter.

I have to agree. Let's all keep things in perspective here.

[roller]

i think its a pop culture expression that started with the star wars prequels

i think its not meant to be taken literally

[kup]

i think its a pop culture expression that started with the star wars prequels

i think its not meant to be taken literally

Close but no cigar - It begun with the Star Wars special editions in 1997 which sparked the 'Han shot first!' outrage among others but let's not derail the thread any more.

[MV75]

So he stepped on a toy. Big deal.

It wasn't mine, nor was it anyone elses here. It belonged to whatever station played the show, and they can put it at whatever risk and do whatever they want with it.

That is a part of our very own toys too, we can do whatever we want with them.

If only people knew about the tons of movie toys being broken by kids because they're too hard to transform.....

[Lord_Zed]

"Worst thread ever!"

[blackie]

"Worst thread ever!"

not nearly close :)

[SofaMan]

The offhand comments involving rape are getting a bit icky, peeps. I know it's only intended as a humorous metaphor, but it's a big deal to some people, and it costs us little to respect that. I'm not going to edit the posts, but I will ask you to lay off from this point.

[TheDirtyDigger]

The point is not him stepping on the toy but the afterglow he's basking in of hanging crap on Transfans.

[Paulbot]

The point is not him stepping on the toy but the afterglow he's basking in of hanging crap on Transfans.

I think Tony summed it up very nicely in that article you posted...


All this over a seventy-dollar toy abundantly available at any shopping centre? If these people were such big fans, wouldn’t they have known the going rate for an Optimus Prime? Then I realised that, like me, Generation X hasn’t bothered to keep up with developments down at Toys ‘R’ Us. Their idea of Transformers is forever stalled back in the early nineties.

Although late eighties is probably more correct than early nineties (Action Masters are not G1 for instance :p)

Why two threads needed to be devoted to complaints about the destruction of Pinkimus, when there is another thread devoted to saying how crap the toy is? I'll never know! :rolleyes: :cool:

[kup]

I wanted to get Pinkimus (before we knew he was pink) and was willing to look past short smoke staks and long missiles but Hasbro really pushed the envelope and made it even crappier than anyone could have imagined and it was far more than what I was willing to forgive...