Ninja Bidding

[16364279]

As a collective group we all want the best deal for something we have interest in. I was thinking how many times would i be bidding against people from this thread on TF's on ebay. If i knew i would genuinely stop bidding if they are a member of this forum. That is my own personal view.

I wanted to know how many people share the same thought and perhaps a forum category on ninja bidding whereby a "shot gun" is called on a certain item so other users are able to see how many forum members have a vested interest so that it all does not come down to the last minute. The forum has around 400 members so that will minimise competition.

[dirge]

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[d*r*j*]

You should never, ever publicly list something you are genuinely interested in, a few discreet pms etc would be much more effective. Remember people don't have to be a part of the community to view what you are posting.

[16364279]

but who would u pm ? and it is possible to make certain sections of the board visible to users who have logged in and are members..


You should never, ever publicly list something you are genuinely interested in, a few discreet pms etc would be much more effective. Remember people don't have to be a part of the community to view what you are posting.

[griffin]

This has been discussed before, and was deemed unfair to have one person 'reserve' an auction, to make it off-limits to others, if they were not going to bid anywhere near what others would have, and end up losing it anyway.
For example, if there was a Gen1 Optimus Prime on ebay that one person here claims it as theirs, but only bids $100 on it (and no one else here knows how much is being bidded). They then lose the auction because it goes way above that amoung, but other people here who would have bid a lot more, miss out if we had some sort of policy prohibiting/discouraging members bidding against other members on ebay. In the end, everyone misses out.

The only time we could actually be able prevent members bidding blinkding against each other is if we all knew who here was going to bid the most on that item, and everyone else backs off. But I find that very few people are willing to announce their max bid amount, in case it encourages someone else to bid above it to secure the item. And you have a very short amount of time to work it all out with.

It may not feel nice to find out later in the acquisition topic that someone else got something you were bidding on, but there just isn't a feesable/forceable way around it.

[Lint]

ebay should be left alone as the free evil market that it is. Trying to apply any serious gentlemans rules will only end in tears :rolleyes:

[blackie]

ebay is an auction site
people bid
person willing to go the highest wins
nice and simple :)

[bruticus]

I love ninja bidding and i am very happy the term gets more recognition these days.

Its pretty simple. whether its against other members on this board or randoms around the world, it comes down to whoever wants the item badly enough to bid higher for it, or whoever was committed enough to ninja bid.

What you are suggesting here is collusion, but there is no guarantee that you will win the auction against other people around australia or around the world you have not colluded with. It also doesnt even take into account other unforseen factors (internet crash, blue screen of death, traffic jams, shill bidders etc) that may stop you from even making a ninja bid once you have decided who out of the group was going to bid.

Just let nature take its course on the open market. You will win some, you will lose some, you will get cheap stuff sometimes and you will get jipped at other times.

[16364279]

well i guess its free for all.

i dont want to receive any pms after posting acquisitions.

and by the sounds of what griffin said people on here are to self infatuated to post max bids.

i will be polite enough to withhold my bids on items if someone here pms me the item number as thats one less person too compete with, even though im only one person if the member on here appreciates it im happy.

[Rampage]

Once ebay hid bidder user id's from other bidders it just became every man for himself

[d*r*j*]

...people on here are to self infatuated to post max bids...

I don't think this is the case at all. It's a public forum. That would be like playing online poker and going to a public forum and posting what cards you have been dealt.

[GoktimusPrime]

ebay is an auction site
people bid
person willing to go the highest wins
nice and simple
+1 QFT

If you don't like those rules, don't participate in auctions. There are plenty of other ways to obtain Transformers other than eBay. :)
(I seldomly get TFs off eBay)

[TF76]

I normally use buy it now or best offers but do auction now and then.

I actually got some seacons yesterday at (what I think is) a good price and near complete. :D

[GoktimusPrime]

I bid the most I would want to pay for a toy. If someone beats me, then I don't really care because it means that the item has exceeded what I wanted to pay for it anyway! I'll just wait until I can find it at a price that I'm willing to pay.

And the price that I'm willing to pay is, IMO, what the toy is worth to me. So when the auction exceeds my bid, to me the price has exceeded the toy's worth/value. For example if I see a toy that I think is worth $50, I'll bid about that. If the auction ends at $80 then bugger that -- why should I pay $80 for a toy that I think should only be worth $50?!? If you saw a Movie Voyager (RRP $50) being sold in a store for $80, would you pay that price or wait until you can find the toy for $50 or cheaper? I'd go for the latter.

[sanbot]

I bid the most I would want to pay for a toy. If someone beats me, then I don't really care because it means that the item has exceeded what I wanted to pay for it anyway! I'll just wait until I can find it at a price that I'm willing to pay.

And the price that I'm willing to pay is, IMO, what the toy is worth to me. So when the auction exceeds my bid, to me the price has exceeded the toy's worth/value. For example if I see a toy that I think is worth $50, I'll bid about that. If the auction ends at $80 then bugger that -- why should I pay $80 for a toy that I think should only be worth $50?!? If you saw a Movie Voyager (RRP $50) being sold in a store for $80, would you pay that price or wait until you can find the toy for $50 or cheaper? I'd go for the latter.

But doesn't the thought that you could get it cheaper ever cross your mind? Like say if you bid $50 and the highest anybody else is willing to bid was only $40 then you could have gotten it cheaper then $50.

[GoktimusPrime]

meh, not really. Again, I seldomly get stuff from eBay.

[jgon2098]

A shotgun on something may not even eventuate in the person bidding/buying at all. i.e. getting nervous and taking a dump and completely missing the auction sniping phase. or on a more serious note, having an incredibly low max bid as opposed to someone whos prepared to pay more.

On another note, althought not completely off-topic, on a personal experience alot (thankfully not all) of 'shotguns' on the sales forum here are just impulse decisions resulting in "sorry no longer interested" or followed by a pm "please place it on hold pending picture and condition", similarly what says they won't pull out of an ebay shotgun.

Of course shotgunning between friends is another matter, and I've had to withdraw or delete a watchlist item because a mate has informed me they will be bidding on it, albeit unwillingly on some occassions, but bros over hos. On a public forum to a alot of randoms? I dunno about that... and lets be honest how many will even take the person seriously?