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Stompy
28th July 2009, 10:27 PM
After kurdt gave us his great in-depth review of Human Alliance Bumblebee (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=4384), I thought I'd do the same for Human Alliance Sideswipe. While Bumblebee was such a huge improvement over the deluxe and perhaps the best movie Bumblebee to get. Will Human Alliance Sideswipe be the same or you thinking of just sticking with the deluxe version? Hope to shed some light on the figure. Please be warned I will not be reviewing the Sgt. Epps figure that comes with Sideswipe.

Also with bulb lighting and consumer level camera my pictures aren't the best. There's a link to some better quality pics here:
http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=5214


ALT MODE: Corvette Stingray Concept

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The alt mode is just gorgeous. The same matte silver used for the deluxe version makes this alt mode just look sleek and "premium", unlike Human Alliance Bumblebee's disappointing bright orange plastic used. The headlights and windows are all clear dark blue plastic, the brake lights are clear red plastic and some clear plastic used for the 4 exhaust/mufflers (?) in the rear. The alt mode is convincing with seams in the "realistic" places. The side-mirrors is actual hard plastic and is actually quite stiff and sturdy so it shouldn't break easily unless you place extreme pressure on it. The doors open upwards in a "scissor" style. The wheels are plastic but has painted rims and red brake calipers. The Corvette logo on the bonnet, as tiny as it is, is painted as accurately as its size can allow.

Some downsides to the alt mode is the visible robot kibble up the lower back end and the robot kibble underneath can often be lower than the wheels if conversion isn't exact. This leads to not being able to roll the car due to the robot kibble underneath touching the ground. With that in mind the robot kibble paint may get scratched on harsh surfaces like concrete. There's no number plates at all, despite having the space on the rear. Although that may be a good thing if you want a clean minimal design. The interior is nowhere near the quality of Alternators/Binaltechs and while HA Bumblebee had a decent one, there's way too much kibble inside to make it believable.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/HASS-Altcomparisontop.jpg

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When compared with the deluxe version the Human Alliance version wins due to having less seams for a more believable alt mode. Of course the bonus of having working scissor doors and seats and steering wheel. Also the paint apps in the front grille and logo is a big plus. The deluxe version wins in the free rolling department though due to the Human Alliance version having the kibble drag underneath. Overall the Human Alliance version is just plain sexy in alt mode. For a display piece, it's perfect.


CONVERSION

Transformation is similar to the deluxe version with a few extra hinges here and there. I won't spoil much of the conversion and will highlight a few noticeable points. The shoulder conversion includes springs to protect it from breaking when pulling out the arms. Speaking of which pulling out the arm or putting it back in requires some grazing of the rear wheel panel and other robot parts but the paint job have remained safe from the play I've had. There's a tab just on the inside of the rear wheel panel for the shoulders to sit still onto in both modes. There's a strut underneath the door sitting parallel with the ground that looks attached permanently but is actually pegged on the front, best to remember to unplug the peg during conversion. The rear bonnet, windshield and roof spins as one piece 180 degrees and is quite tight. On the same scare factor of "am I gonna break it, am I doing this right" as Leader Primes chest sliding tab. But once you know how far you can tilt it, it will feel safer in future conversions. Also the rear muffler part sits on the front bonnet so there's some fear of paint scratches. There's two small "wings" for his waist that is hard to spot, so be sure to fold then in/out accordingly. The feet can be left circular or you can flip the bottom half of the inside plate to act as spurs for standing. Another annoyance is the head sculpt seems to be just slightly larger than the hole it is to pop out of so there's some grazing when positioning it in and out.

There's nothing too difficult with the conversion and mimics the deluxe version for the most part with a few extra folds and hinges and bells & whistles. It's not difficult like most Leaders or Alternators and easy to remember.


BOT MODE:

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To start off, the bot mode isn't as short and stout as previous pictures have shown. I believe some of them were mistransformed and they failed to extend the legs out. This version is as slender and tall as the deluxe version. The silver matte paint is applied over the entire bot mode, so almost (there's some just above the wheel on his feet) no Hasbro grey here. His head sculpt is fantastic with great paint apps and light piping. It has the same rubber connections on his crotch to his legs as the deluxe. There's working pistons on the calves. He has shoulder mounted double barrel lasers and a larger spring loaded canon + missile on his left shoulder. The Sgt. Epps figure can be seated just behind the twin lasers using the same seats from alt mode. His hands are a little tiny and his swords are made of rubbery plastic for the safety factor. There's a gimmick with the hands/sword where if you push it towards the wheels enables his hand and blades to spin like an egg beater by turning the wheel s on his forearm. Nice but a strangely hilarious gimmick.

With that out of the way, sadly there is a fair few flaws with the bot mode. The main one is the HUGE backpack where the majority of the alt mode sits. Yes siree, this is a shellformer much like Animated Wreck-Gar. Complete with shell kibble as the convenient "backpack". Unlike the deluxe version where the front windshield sits flush on his back while the doors become moveable "wings" ala the movie. Instead, I'm guessing to accommodate for the working doors in alt mode" they just sit there with minimal movement and a fair distance from the back too. Then you have the rest of the car panels folded over each other making a right mess at the back. Then the struts that dangle down as well. His forearms is hollow to accommodate for the conversion but is just too large not to notice. The tiny hands doesn't help the look neither. His torso (fake kibble!) is also very thin and throws off his look when exposed on the side. The pistons on his calves are nice but due to conversion means that it can come off the hole it is in, luckily this isn't a huge issue as its easy to put back in.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/HASS-Botcomparison.jpg

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Articulation. The head is on a ball joint, although vertical tilting is at a smaller angle. His arms have all the articulation you could want. Shoulder rotation and outward hinged. Forearms also rotatable and hinged and the hands have wrist rotation and fingers and thumb pin hinges. Sadly the swords stay out like that. There is no waist rotation. Leg articulation is very minimal. It hinges outwards from the waist and tilts forwards and back a little only as the rubber connectors obstructs it from bending forward much. There is also slightangle rotation on the thigh and no knee articulation. There is knee articulation but having it anywhere outside neutral position will tip the figure backwards due to the ridiculous weight of the backpack kibble. No ankle articulation neither outside the spurs, which unfortunately folds upwards instead of downwards. Couple that with the large backpack, balancing is an issue. The pose I have on my pic is the best I can get my figure to pose...

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/HASS-Botpose02.jpg

Overall the robot mode from the front is accurate, but once you see it's giant mess of a backpack, you look back at the perfect deluxe bot mode and just think what went wrong. I guess it's to accommodate the lack of seams and alt mode working doors and interior. Compromises had to be made by the engineers. Like HA Bumblebee's tyres being inside his legs.


CONCLUSION:

I'd still recommend the figure for fans of the character and alt mode or completist. Especially the alt mode fans. Also just having figures at this size and detail is a rare treat nowadays. Just be aware of the robot mode problems (balancing, articulation, backpack) and perhaps settle for the deluxe version if that really irks. As a display piece though, this is one nice figure.

Personally, I was disappointed since I thought a larger version of the character would make for an awesome sideswipe after the nigh on beauty that is the deluxe version. My flame was doused rather quickly but embers still burn for this figure.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/SideswipeArmyAlt.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/SideswipeArmyBot.jpg

Where is my Legends version! ARGH!

TF76
28th July 2009, 11:32 PM
That is exactly what I thought the body did!

Dont think I like it, It's a pity but good for my savings. :D

Good review, thank you.

kurdt_the_goat
28th July 2009, 11:40 PM
Great review! I think this one was designed by a real Corvette lover; they just couldn't bring themselves to chop that bonnet up like the deluxe!

Kyle
28th July 2009, 11:51 PM
It's still a must-have for me... :p

Wheel-J
29th July 2009, 12:04 AM
I'm loving the paint apps and the more fine-finished alt mode! Though If not because it looks back heavy, I'm a bit halfhearted.

Good review Stompster! The pics arn't bad at all.

sanbot
29th July 2009, 09:36 AM
Very nice review! This is a must have for me!

I found the deluxe one hard to stand up. Is there a similar problem with human alliance one?

Stompy
30th July 2009, 08:21 PM
Updated the articulation section as with some more play with the robot mode, I found that there is knee articulation, but is useless as bending it outside of its neutral position will tip him over due to the heavy backpack.

check the review again Shazam I mentioned it there. With the deluxe you can rotate the vehicle kibble on his feet around to act as front spurs to keep him positioned. With the HA version see the feet picture and helps a great deal on standing him up BUT the backpack causes balancing issues.

Saintly
31st July 2009, 11:49 AM
nice review stompy.

it confirms my love for it :)

jimsta
31st July 2009, 09:17 PM
Excellent review there stompy. Im gonna get this one for sure.

klystron
2nd August 2009, 10:45 PM
Awesome review. Very helpful cause I was undecided about getting this guy.

RageOnTheRoads
2nd August 2009, 11:09 PM
Great review Stompy! That is one very, very pretty alt mode. Pitty about the bot mode though. Oh well. :)

The Scream Man
20th August 2009, 02:38 PM
I love the HA Bumblebee i just got, so i am very ready to get the rest. Sideswipe looks cool, I look forward to getting him :)

Sky Shadow
20th August 2009, 05:27 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/StompBrother/Transformers/RotF%20Sideswipe/SideswipeArmyBot.jpg

I can't believe this guy appeared for five seconds in a movie that came out this year and already he has even more toys than just the ones in this photo. It's $#!* like that that makes 20+ year-old characters like Grapple and Hook and Seaspray and Twin Twist and Trailbreaker cry themselves to sleep every night. :(

Tabias Prime
20th August 2009, 08:10 PM
It's still a must-have for me... :p

Agreed.do we know if there are any on the shelves in Perth yet?

FFN
20th August 2009, 08:20 PM
I can't believe this guy appeared for five seconds in a movie that came out this year and already he has even more toys than just the ones in this photo. It's $#!* like that that makes 20+ year-old characters like Grapple and Hook and Seaspray and Twin Twist and Trailbreaker cry themselves to sleep every night. :( Kind of the point, though, Sideswipe appearing for a few minutes in ROTF means he was seen by more people around the world than most TFs could hope.

Sky Shadow
20th August 2009, 09:13 PM
Kind of the point, though, Sideswipe appearing for a few minutes in ROTF means he was seen by more people around the world than most TFs could hope.

That is true: millions of people did see a silver car transform into a robot and decapitate some other silver robot. However, I'm pretty sure that well over 99% of these viewers have no emotional attachment to this robot (or remember that his name is Sideswipe), owing to the fact that all they can possibly know about him is that he likes to drive around, kill other robots and cut things. My main gripe with this is that I'm sure this franchise would not have lasted twenty-five years if people hadn't cared about the characters as well as the 'cool' toys. Take a character like Gears. We know he likes complaining, he's Spider-Man's friend, he sells potatoes to buy provisions for the Autobots and he's cranky because he has some sort of solar needle circuit stuck up his driveshaft. He's interesting. And yet he's had one toy in the 25 years since his first appearance. (Yes, I know there's now a second toy called 'Gears' potentially coming out for ROTF). Although ROTF Sideswipe may have over half a dozen toys in a couple of months (one of which was more-than-capably reviewed here by Stompy), he is still little more than a mindless cypher who likes to cut things. And that makes me sad.

Jhiaxus
20th August 2009, 10:21 PM
That is true: millions of people did see a silver car transform into a robot and decapitate some other silver robot. However, I'm pretty sure that well over 99% of these viewers have no emotional attachment to this robot (or remember that his name is Sideswipe), owing to the fact that all they can possibly know about him is that he likes to drive around, kill other robots and cut things. My main gripe with this is that I'm sure this franchise would not have lasted twenty-five years if people hadn't cared about the characters as well as the 'cool' toys. Take a character like Gears. We know he likes complaining, he's Spider-Man's friend, he sells potatoes to buy provisions for the Autobots and he's cranky because he has some sort of solar needle circuit stuck up his driveshaft. He's interesting. And yet he's had one toy in the 25 years since his first appearance. (Yes, I know there's now a second toy called 'Gears' potentially coming out for ROTF). Although ROTF Sideswipe may have over half a dozen toys in a couple of months (one of which was more-than-capably reviewed here by Stompy), he is still little more than a mindless cypher who likes to cut things. And that makes me sad.

I gotta call you up here. If we're talking MOVIE appearances, Gears is even worse off than Sideswipe! He didn't appear in the original TF movie at all!!

Gears had one major appearance in the cartoon (A great episode, to be sure) and one major appearance in the comics (A great little tale for him, to be sure), and a character profile. You're mining ALL OF THOSE to get your information.

You know what? Sideswipe appears in story books, movie profile books, the movie itself, comics, and has character profiles attached to every single one of his toys. That's nearly as much fiction as Gears has ever had.

--Jhiaxus
(The G1 characters were often just as much ciphers as any Movie guys -- often worse. Skywarp and Thundercracker, despite appearing again and again had like 1 character moment between them throughout all their appearances... and apart from that all we have is their profiles. Yes, you've built the G1 guys up over time, but that doesn't make them any less "nobodies who appeared once or twice" than movie guys. It's just the way TF fiction WORKS.)

Sky Shadow
20th August 2009, 11:44 PM
I gotta call you up here. If we're talking MOVIE appearances, Gears is even worse off than Sideswipe! He didn't appear in the original TF movie at all!!

I wasn't actually talking about movie appearances (and Gears was just meant to be a random example) but if I was, then Gears was in Transformers: The Movie on Moonbase One, doing about as little as ROTF Sideswipe does. And then he may have been dropped in Unicron's stomach acid at the end (or that may just be some generic robot who looks like Gears.)


Gears had one major appearance in the cartoon (A great episode, to be sure) and one major appearance in the comics (A great little tale for him, to be sure), and a character profile. You're mining ALL OF THOSE to get your information.

I don't remember any references to Gears taking potatoes to the market in any of those instances... although his Tech Specs profile would have been even more awesome if it did.


You know what? Sideswipe appears in story books, movie profile books, the movie itself, comics, and has character profiles attached to every single one of his toys. That's nearly as much fiction as Gears has ever had.

Yes, Gears was in the cartoon, a movie, Marvel comics, Dreamwave comics, Devils Due comics, IDW comics, picture books and colouring books. Which is why - like Gears - ROTF Sideswipe deserves maybe one toy. And then perhaps some sort of homage toy in 2034. :)

kaiden
21st August 2009, 02:32 AM
I remember seeing this in store and thought 'this is probably the only movie toy i would get'

I just cant find anything ugly about robot mode! ^_^

Kyle
23rd August 2009, 06:20 PM
Forgot to ask. Stompy, how's the height of Sideswipe in bot mode compared to Bumblebee?

Stompy
2nd September 2009, 12:35 AM
Forgot to ask. Stompy, how's the height of Sideswipe in bot mode compared to Bumblebee?

Sorry for the late reply. Overlooked this section of the forums. (^_^')

When comparing height up to the head (not back kibble/doors) Bumblebee is taller by about 2-3 cm's. Will take a pic when I can. But Bumblebee is noticeably taller, so they are quite scaled really well. I have HA Skids too and he's even shorter than Sideswipe and about 5-7cm shorter than BB. They all appear to be accurately in scale including the Arcee bike.