TRU Reissue G1 Insecticons

[canofwhoopass_87]

I can't seem to find a thread concerning these, so I guess I'm the first? Just got an email update from kapow toys that pre orders for these are up.

Not for me though, but some of you may find it interesting. Box art looks great.

http://www.kapow-toys.com/product_info.php?products_id=1921&osCsid=ad7f1571eaa18a4daa2fcb20b9d5bd5e

[Lordy]

Isn't there also a Preceptor TRU reissue as well next month?

I'd love to get both. Damn those prices aren't cheap :(

[Paulbot]

We haven't had the fan outrage here yet about the Insecticons being renamed.

Odds are there'll be some by the end of the day :p :rolleyes:

[TF76]

Meh, it could be worse, the names could have been "New Shrapnel" and "Billy"

[Paulbot]

I'd love to get both. Damn those prices aren't cheap :(

That's a UK price, they'll show up on Ebay and the American toy stores likely cheaper, and could be in our stores too.

[liegeprime]

hmmmm I dont see any energon cubes... :(:( oh well... now to decide if I want to create an insecticon clone army ... or not:o

[dirge]

What are the new names?

[canofwhoopass_87]

Yeh it'd be interested to know the local price for these 3. The original g1's only go for about 7-10 USD each complete.

Yeh what are the new names?

[Paulbot]

Hardshell and Sharpshot (plus plain old Kickback).

[dirge]

At least there's no "Tankor" :D

[iceburn]

Upcoming G1 Hasbro Reissues

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=4369&highlight=Perceptor+Insecticons

[Robzy]

Yep - watching these very closely!

This is one of those rare instances when I simply DO NOT care what price TRU will charge... I'll be grabbing these as soon as I see them! :o

Re their names... I don't care if they call them Buggy, Sluggy and Fugly just as long as I get them! I'm excited that Kickback will have pointy wings too (at least, according to what we've seen so far)! :eek:

[dirge]

I don't care if they call them Buggy, Sluggy and Fugly

That'd ruin the rhyme, though. Fuggy is much more gooder :rolleyes:

[Lord_Zed]

Awwww I was hoping their new names would be Tom, Dick, and Harry. :D

[primatives]

Hmm apparantly these arent coing to Australia if I'm correct???? I read it in the most recent Q & A from Hasbro a couple of days ago. Isn't it Toys R Us arent going to stock these?

[reillyd]

That and the Wheelie, Cosmos and Hot Rod Legends wave. Crap in a hat.
Thanks goodness for ebay and robot kingdom though

[kup]

I think that they have changed the names because Bombshell and Shrapnel are too 'unfriendly' and politically incorrect sounding given all the casualties in the middle east including US troops by those things.

[TheDirtyDigger]

Pretty sure the Bombshell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(DC_Comics)) name is property of DC atm.

[canofwhoopass_87]

The insecticons and perceptor are pretty interesting reissues. Standard prices for the original g1 versions don't sell for very much imo, would people be willing to pay more for the re-releases?

[kup]

Pretty sure the Bombshell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(DC_Comics)) name is property of DC atm.

How about Decepticon Bombshell or Insecticon Bombshell?

I don't think that they would be able to copyright the word Bombshell otherwise it would be copyright infringement for the word to be used at all.

[Sky Shadow]

Pretty sure the Bombshell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(DC_Comics)) name is property of DC atm.


How about Decepticon Bombshell or Insecticon Bombshell?

I don't think that they would be able to copyright the word Bombshell otherwise it would be copyright infringement for the word to be used at all.

Yes, I've been thinking about that too. I know Transformers were affiliated with Marvel in the early days, but if having a comic character called Bombshell is a problem now, surely it would have been a problem back when the Insecticons first came out in the 80's?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombshell_(Marvel_Comics)

(Although I guess maybe Marvel's human Bombshell wasn't worth trademarking, while DC feels that theirs is.)

[kup]

Maybe its like Slag. His name wasn't a problem back then despite him being a prominent character in Marvel UK but for some reason, it is a problem now.

[Robzy]

Hmm apparantly these arent coing to Australia if I'm correct???? I read it in the most recent Q & A from Hasbro a couple of days ago. Isn't it Toys R Us arent going to stock these?Don't know...

Anyone else heard/read this? :confused:

[hanprimus]

4 - Is there still going to be a second wave of universe special editions being produced?

For 2009 we have plans to release the G1 Commemorative Insecticons and Perceptor (TRU Australia have at this stage declinded these exclusives however so unlikely). Past that, we have not announced any other re-releases at this time.

Hasbro AU July 2009 Answers.

[Robzy]

Cheers :) (I really should read those Q&As every now and then)

Well, that's a disappointing decision... :rolleyes:

[SOUNDBLASTER]

I want energon cubes..... :mad:

[fatbot]

I want energon cubes..... :mad:

bugger the energon cubes, i want the insecticons from local retail, not online.

[SOUNDBLASTER]

Well im in nz and we will never see them here thats for sure... So I feel your pain my friend :(

[blackoptimus]

This is kool!!! But AU hasbro will price them probably at $70, you can get MINT originals for under $50 complete so I'd say pass!

[GoktimusPrime]

The insecticons and perceptor are pretty interesting reissues.
Though hardly surprising considering that Takara reissued them back in 2005. :p


Standard prices for the original g1 versions don't sell for very much imo, would people be willing to pay more for the re-releases?
I find reissues are always cheaper than purchasing complete G1s of the same in MISB or near MISB condition. How much would a complete MISB G1 Perceptor, Bombshell, Kickback and Shrapnel set you back? The TFC Insecticons sold for 3500JPY ($45) and Autobot Perceptor for 3800JPY ($48), or a total of 7300JPY ($93) [currency conversions according to XE (http://www.xe.com/ucc/)]
And don't forget that TFC reissues come with data file cards and the Insecticons came with Energon cubes.


Maybe its like Slag. His name wasn't a problem back then despite him being a prominent character in Marvel UK but for some reason, it is a problem now.
The issue with "Slag" had nothing to do with copyright/trademark issues though.
From TFwiki (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Snarl_(Animated)#Notes):
"Hasbro holds the United States trademark for "Slag" unopposed, and renewed it as recently as Xmas 2007."

I think the new names suck, but I cbb ranting since I don't care about these reissues in the slightest.

[Lordy]

Ah well, time to check RK all next month.

[kup]

The issue with "Slag" had nothing to do with copyright/trademark issues though.
From TFwiki (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Snarl_(Animated)#Notes):
"Hasbro holds the United States trademark for "Slag" unopposed, and renewed it as recently as Xmas 2007."

I think the new names suck, but I cbb ranting since I don't care about these reissues in the slightest.

I know, that is why I think its more to do with modern extremist political correctness more than a trademark issue. The could have easily gotten around the names by adding 'Decepticon' or 'Insecticon' before the name.

[GoktimusPrime]

Hmmm... maybe but I suspect not. Hasbro's long lost the rights for Shrapnel because Robot Heroes Shrapnel was called Insecticon. While "Sharpshot" still royally sucks, it does suck less than Insecticon. Maybe. At least with "Hardshell" they're still trying to make _some_ kind of effort to at least preserve part of the original Bombshell name.

Quite frankly if they're trying to avoid any names related to war or violence then they would need to stop using a LOT of old skool Transformer and G.I. Joe names like Devastator, Rampage, Brawl etc.

This reminds me of how Beast Wars was called "Beasties" in Canada because they didn't want the word "war" in the childrens' TV show, and how UK censors thought the word "ninja" was too violent so TMNT were called TMHT* there. If you're right then this just another reason why I've never liked how Hasbro keep insisting on marketing G1 reissues at children, unlike Takara(TOMY) who directly market it to adults. (-_-)

*Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles

[Robzy]

Quite frankly if they're trying to avoid any names related to war or violence then they would need to stop using a LOT of old skool Transformer and G.I. Joe names like Devastator, Rampage, Brawl etc.
Isn't that why Hasbro won't use Wheeljack? Because it has a negative connotation?! :rolleyes:


This reminds me of how Beast Wars was called "Beasties" in Canada because they didn't want the word "war" in the childrens' TV show, and how UK censors thought the word "ninja" was too violent so TMNT were called TMHT* there. If you're right then this just another reason why I've never liked how Hasbro keep insisting on marketing G1 reissues at children, unlike Takara(TOMY) who directly market it to adults. (-_-)

*Teenage Mutant Hero TurtlesAnd let's not forget how "GoBots" was considered offensive in Australia, so they called them "Machine Men" instead! :D

[kup]

Hmmm... maybe but I suspect not. Hasbro's long lost the rights for Shrapnel because Robot Heroes Shrapnel was called Insecticon. While "Sharpshot" still royally sucks, it does suck less than Insecticon. Maybe. At least with "Hardshell" they're still trying to make _some_ kind of effort to at least preserve part of the original Bombshell name.

Quite frankly if they're trying to avoid any names related to war or violence then they would need to stop using a LOT of old skool Transformer and G.I. Joe names like Devastator, Rampage, Brawl etc.

This reminds me of how Beast Wars was called "Beasties" in Canada because they didn't want the word "war" in the childrens' TV show, and how UK censors thought the word "ninja" was too violent so TMNT were called TMHT* there. If you're right then this just another reason why I've never liked how Hasbro keep insisting on marketing G1 reissues at children, unlike Takara(TOMY) who directly market it to adults. (-_-)

*Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles

We have seen a lot of inconsistency in upholding names over the years, some are judged as Politically incorrect while others where the same logic should apply happen to be ignored. Wheeljack is a good example as Robzy mentioned.

Due to incidents as that of the Wheeljack name and others I have a feeling that a name is considered to be 'bad' not because of some policy system or structure but more to do with the whims of the individual that happens to be in charge at the time. He thinks its offensive or bad so it doesn't happen but if that guy had not been present at that moment in time, there would have been no issue.

[Bartrim]

Isn't that why Hasbro won't use Wheeljack? Because it has a negative connotation?! :rolleyes:



Which is something I don't get because it is actually a useful tool for changing a flat tyre:confused:

[kup]

Which is something I don't get because it is actually a useful tool for changing a flat tyre:confused:

Aaron Archer felt that the name Wheeljack was too similar to car jack.

[dirge]

Aaron Archer ruined Wheeljack's adulthood! :p