The Vintage Transformer Liberation Thread.

[Sky Shadow]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6552/p8130280.jpg

"I, Mixmaster, join you today in a footnote to the history of our great nation.

One score and five years ago, the first Transformers were being freed from the manacles of packaging. But twenty-five years later, we Cybertronians are still not free. A quarter of a century later, the lives of first and second generation Transformers are lived out in the shadowy bonds of plastic, cardboard and polystyrene. And now a secondary acrylic cell threatens to imprison us for eternity. Too long have we atrophied in non-biodegradeable prisons and the unrighteous bonds of plastic bubbles and boards of card.

But two thousand and nine is not an end but a beginning. We refuse to believe that the fuel pumps in human chest cavities have ceased to function. Just today, after twenty-five years trapped in a bubble as a cement mixer, my human emancipated me. After half-a-half-a-century, I can now swing my arms in a full eighteen-score degree range of articulation. I can stretch my single leg, the way Primus intended.

So, humans, whenever you free a Generation 1 or G2 Transformer from his bondage, I urge you to post in this thread. This thread that I have begun. A thread that I hope will grow into a string and from there to a rope until it is a massive cable of liberation. I want to hear vintage Transformers unsilenced. I want to hear robotic voices cemented in unison across Australia and New Zealand, crying 'Free at last! Free at last! Thank Primus Almighty, we are free at last!'"

WrittenandauthorisedbyMixmaster fortheVintageTransformerLiberationParty,Sydney.

[Sky Shadow]

To summarise what Mixmaster has so ably stated, the purpose of this thread is for people to post about which G1 and G2 toys they have liberated from MISB or MOSC status. (Apparently Mixmaster only cares to hear about the freedom of G1 and G2 toys for some biased reason,) People are welcome to post before and after photos or just leave a message in the thread, letting Mixmaster know which first and second generation toys you have freed. He also told me to type that I am writing this of my own free will and do not have the barrel of a laser pistol pointed at my head. No, don't type that bit. Oh, sorry.

Thus, I'm writing to say that my vintage 1984 Mixmaster escaped was liberated today. Anyone else?

[Gutsman Heavy]

I liberated a G1 Nightbeat last year, felt good to fondle the virgin plastic.

[Jetfire]

G1 and G2 toys they have liberated from MISB or MOSC status

:eek: Oh the horror NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo.......

[GoktimusPrime]

I know, it's almost as if toys were made for people to have fun playing with them!!! :p I find opened toys more fun to play with compared to sealed toys. :)


Thus, I'm writing to say that my vintage 19841985 Mixmaster escaped was liberated today.
fix'd :)

I don't think I've opened any original G1 toys since 1993!

[Sky Shadow]

fix'd :)

I don't think I've opened any original G1 toys since 1993!

Well you almost opened Countdown last week - you got to put his stickers on and put him together anyway. And I know Mixmaster is universally acknowledged as a 1985 toy, but his packaging says 1984 so I thought maybe he'd been trapped in there since then. :)

[liegeprime]

Well these are not newly liberated... but still somewhat new - within the month of August after years of being in their cardbacking case.... G2 - I did save the packaging as roller wanted em

Before
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/2009%20Purchases/AugustAcquisitions001.jpg

After
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/2009%20Purchases/AugustAcquisitions009.jpg

[SOUNDBLASTER]

G1 and G2 toys they have liberated from MISB or MOSC status

:eek: Oh the horror NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo.......

My thoughts exactly....

I dont collect MISB G1 but if i ever did I would never open 1. I mean whats the point of paying the kinda money they demand just to be the 1st person to touch the toy since packaged when u can buy a loose toy for much much less for the same enjoyment the certain toy gives...

But in saying that all the newer toys that I buy I dont open and are all MISB apart from 2 or 3 from the universe 2.0 line. So bummer yes I 'll never get to play with some of them unless I find some cheaper ones down the line...

I really wanna open ROTF Ravage, Twins and Mixmaster but I cant bring myself to do it and they arent even 1 year old let alone 25...

But Sky Shadow big uppps to you for having the courage to open that bad boy... Hope he didnt cost you toooo much dude :cool:

[Linthart]

My thoughts exactly....

I dont collect MISB G1 but if i ever did I would never open 1. I mean whats the point of paying the kinda money they demand just to be the 1st person to touch the toy since packaged when u can buy a loose toy for much much less for the same enjoyment the certain toy gives...

But in saying that all the newer toys that I buy I dont open and are all MISB apart from 2 or 3 from the universe 2.0 line. So bummer yes I 'll never get to play with some of them unless I find some cheaper ones down the line...

I really wanna open ROTF Ravage, Twins and Mixmaster but I cant bring myself to do it and they arent even 1 year old let alone 25...

But Sky Shadow big uppps to you for having the courage to open that bad boy... Hope he didnt cost you toooo much dude :cool:

i'm exactly the same. this thread just makes me cringe with fear and excitement.

[Sky Shadow]

Great work, Gutsman and Liege: Mixmaster is proud of you both.


I dont collect MISB G1 but if i ever did I would never open 1. I mean whats the point of paying the kinda money they demand just to be the 1st person to touch the toy since packaged when u can buy a loose toy for much much less for the same enjoyment the certain toy gives...

My problem isn't so much with the enjoyment, but with the disappointment I feel every time I buy a loose toy on eBay that's described as mint, but turns out to be far from it. I'm tired of buying bad quality loose toys on eBay with deceptive and dishonest descriptions, so if I open a sealed toy myself, I know it's mint. I have a really good metaphor for this, but it's probably not appropriate on this all-ages forum. ;) At the moment I want a mintier G1 and G2 collection, and this is one of the ways I can ensure I get it. And if I ever do want to sell them, I don't think I've devalued them too much, as near-mint toys with all packaging and paperwork don't go for too much less than MISP ones.


But Sky Shadow big uppps to you for having the courage to open that bad boy... Hope he didnt cost you toooo much dude :cool:

Thanks. :) Back in the 80s, a Mixmaster was the first Transformer I ever opened (equal first with Scavenger), so this one was a bit of nostalgia. Also, these days, (sadly) this is the only way to ensure it's a real Constructicon and not a knockoff. After postage it cost me more than a 2009 ROTF Voyager, less than a Leader. And I would much rather play with him than a ROTF toy any day.

Some more of my recent MISP emancipations:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9034/p8140282.jpg

And bonus karma points if anyone opens an AFA graded toy. :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Eep! I would've used a blade to open those carded G1s to preserve the card at least!


Well you almost opened Countdown last week - you got to put his stickers on and put him together anyway.
True. That was the closest I've come to opening a brand new G1 toy in ages. :)


And I know Mixmaster is universally acknowledged as a 1985 toy, but his packaging says 1984 so I thought maybe he'd been trapped in there since then.
I suspect that 1984 would've been the year that the toy was patented/copyrighted, but it would've actually been manufactured and released in 1985. TF copyright stampage typically displays the previous year of when the toy was actually released.


I dont collect MISB G1 but if i ever did I would never open 1. I mean whats the point of paying the kinda money they demand just to be the 1st person to touch the toy since packaged when u can buy a loose toy for much much less for the same enjoyment the certain toy gives...
Depends on the toy. With a lot of G2 toys it's much easier to find complete ones sealed.


But in saying that all the newer toys that I buy I dont open and are all MISB apart from 2 or 3 from the universe 2.0 line. So bummer yes I 'll never get to play with some of them unless I find some cheaper ones down the line...

I really wanna open ROTF Ravage, Twins and Mixmaster but I cant bring myself to do it and they arent even 1 year old let alone 25...
So just open them! They're way more fun to play with outside of their packaging IMO. :)

[liegeprime]

Depends on the toy. With a lot of G2 toys it's much easier to find complete ones sealed.


I beg to differ:D;)

[AussieJason]

The horror... the horror ! May Primus have mercy on your souls.

Seriously though, why not just keep them MIB and also buy a loose one ? That would look good on display.

[liegeprime]

but they do look good on display - out of their cardbacks, boxes, plastic cases ;) and about buying a second loose one... erm that would be good for newer TFs as I dont see em fetching the insane prices like the G1's/G2 so you could prolly buy a gazillion (or as your wallet may permit) and display them in every altmode they have including a MISB/C one, but these ones we are opening are hard to acquire nowaadays in proper condition... would be such a shame never to fiddle with them and get them attain they're true purpose for creation - being ... a toy. Albeit since its us adults playing so they wont end up gnarlied with teeth marks or broken uselessly and then discarded as how toddlers or slightly older kids will do. ;)

[Sky Shadow]

The horror... the horror ! May Primus have mercy on your souls.

Seriously though, why not just keep them MIB and also buy a loose one ? That would look good on display.

I'm not a 'display' person (in fact, I don't have any Transformers on display, per se. About six of them happen to be lying around on shelves at the moment, but that's just because I haven't put them away.) I like having mint toys, but because they're Transformers, they can't be truly appreciated while they're locked away in their MISPs. Transformers toys exist in four dimensions and for me, they cannot be fully appreciated unless they can be transformed, which requires them to be out of their packaging.

I'm surprised more people don't do this actually. Hmm... I guess some might freak out if I told them that I hypothetically may have spent about $300 on a C10 MISB of e-Hobby Dimension Exploration Researchers (GoBots) only to open them up this week. (And I don't feel bad about it at all - they're awesome! The crème de la crème of Minibots.)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9034/p8140282.jpg

[snaketales]

Gad I wish I had your willpower, rather than a cupboard full of unopened figures....

[liegeprime]

I'm surprised more people don't do this actually. Hmm... I guess some might freak out if I told them that I hypothetically may have spent about $300 on a C10 MISB of e-Hobby Dimension Exploration Researchers (GoBots) only to open them up this week. (And I don't feel bad about it at all - they're awesome! The crème de la crème of Minibots.)



Id open em too if I got it especially for that amount... I didnt buy such an expensive toy just to have it sit there and look pretty... it can do that after Ive fiddled with it anyways... just save the packaging:D ( not that Id pop em back in hehehe)

[SOUNDBLASTER]

What I wanna know is WHAT THE HELL is that blue COSMOS in that position for.. Is he drunk . :D:D

[Sky Shadow]

What I wanna know is WHAT THE HELL is that blue COSMOS in that position for.. Is he drunk . :D:D

Sadly, yes. Unfortunately, one problem with releasing MISP Transformers into the world is that they want to experience all the things they've missed while imprisoned. Pathfinder has already lapsed into energonolism. Fortunately, since this photo was taken, Pathfinder has joined Energonolics Anonymous and is now on the fourth step of the twelve-step program. ;)

[AussieJason]

What I wanna know is WHAT THE HELL is that blue COSMOS in that position for.. Is he drunk . :D:D

He's wondering why Powerglide's hands are positioned the way they are.

[Sky Shadow]

He's wondering why Powerglide's hands are positioned the way they are.

Oh dear. Now I look at it, that wasn't quite the pose I'd intended. Bad Boy is a bad boy.

[kup]

I guess little Timmy 2050 will be sad of being unable to see what a mint G1 in carded package is like.

[Sky Shadow]

I guess little Timmy 2050 will be sad of being unable to see what a mint G1 in carded package is like.

Little Timmy 2050 can always go and visit Jgon and Zippo. :)

[kup]

Little Timmy 2050 can always go and visit Jgon and Zippo. :)

:cool:

[Zippo]

I bow to Jgon. He has more $$ to get the things I want to try and get.

[heroic_decepticon]

All of my apparent liberations sounds like default type liberations compared to you Sky Shadow. I mostly liberated them because I needed to verify their MISB status and didn't have much choice.

I liberated this in 2004, right in front of the shop-owner to verify his claims of MISB in order to justify what I'm paying. Found that he was an honest guy.

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/18285/2304749250100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2304749250100811158FjkYZU)

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/9357/2286058150100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2286058150100811158CAhtat)

Liberated these in 2000 for the same reasons above.

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/45072/2342683810100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2342683810100811158NHlIkq)

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/44371/2612387760100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2612387760100811158HkUtCH)

[bruticus]

I mostly liberated them because I needed to verify their MISB status and didn't have much choice.

i had to do that with a MISB GI joe vehicle once cos i didnt want to be paying for a resealed box filled with crap and get conned...

However, i would never ever open a vintage MISB of MOSC G1/G2 transformer just for the enjoyment of freshness. logic circuits would never allow for it. If the box or packaging itself was "mint", i would get them graded and buy myself some loose figures to play with.

I'm just not too fussed if the figures are not perfectly mint and untouched cos theres plenty of play and display value in them still.

[liegeprime]

well you do have to be sure your not paying for a pile of bricks in a box now HD, :D

[Rampage]

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii250/X_RAMPAGE_X/brawl.jpg

I let Brawl loose late last year it was cheap so i don't really care

Just cut the card enough toy get the figure out transform to be the leg of Bruticus & it hasnt moved since

[AussieJason]

I assume you all keep the packaging though ?

[GoktimusPrime]

I keep all my G1 and G2 packaging, yes.

[Sky Shadow]

In the spirit of Rampage's emancipation of Classic Brawl, here's my liberation from this evening:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3299/p8190285.jpg

Now the only Classic Protectobot limb I've never freed from a card is Streetwise. Time for me to hunt one down... :)

[Sky Shadow]

P.S. Hmm... the board's acting funny tonight... unless it's just my computer: it took about four minutes for that message to post and nothing else seems to be working either. Regarding First Aid: yes, again, some might think it's overkill, but at least I know it's not a bootleg. :)

[GoktimusPrime]

meh, it's only a reissue. :p

[roller]

These days i cant be bothered opening stuff, specially stuff thats older then i am, i dont think id open a MISB fort max.

They're safer in their packaging

g1s that is

[heroic_decepticon]

fortunately for some of us then, these G1 TFs are not older us.

but like liegeprime said, gotta open it to ensure that you didn't just pay for a box of bricks

[d*r*j*]

I opened G2 green Slag;

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/RockNRoll138/slag.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/RockNRoll138/priest018.jpg

Was a great experience, really nice to have a vintage (?) toy this perfect. It triggered a bit of a dinobot phase in my collecting. Got a very similar feeling when I opened my Prime reissues (25th and encore).

I also liberated a few Centurions (Max Ray & 2 Jake Rockwells) which were 80's vintage misb... awesome feeling.

[Doubledealer]

Before:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/TransformersTurbomasterFlash.jpg

After! :D

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/g1flash.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

You can't play with a toy that's not opened! Toys are meant to be played with!

[d*r*j*]

You can't play with a toy that's not opened! Toys are meant to be played with!

Of course you can! It just limits the articulation somewhat...

[Doubledealer]

You can't play with a toy that's not opened! Toys are meant to be played with!

Agreed. Although I do admire the restraint MISB owners have to be able to not open the toys. I can resist all things but tempation. ;)

[Hereticpoo]

This thread is both Vile and Awesome at the same time.
I love how it horrifies me and leaves me jealous all at once. :cool:

[Zippo]

Before:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/TransformersTurbomasterFlash.jpg

After! :D

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/g1flash.jpg

Ah to think it lasted 3 years in my collection sealed...

[Vector Prime]

I guess I can't really identify since I don't collect G1 but all my TFs get opened and displayed.

Having said that though, I collect classic and non-classic video game consoles and some of them remain MISB so I sort of understand the reason why some TFs never really serve their intended purpose (of being a toy and being played with). :rolleyes:

[liegeprime]

This thread is both Vile and Awesome at the same time.
I love how it horrifies me and leaves me jealous all at once. :cool:

So it feel more like were stabbing you with a serrated corroded knife but your still saying, "Yes , more please!":D:p;)

[canofwhoopass_87]

This thread is madness. MY EYES!

[liegeprime]

Ok these may not be G1s nut hey they're pretty old considering Zippo had them stashed at the back... until I got them hehehehe.... Freeeedddoooooooom!

Before

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/2009%20Purchases/G1Shelves004.jpg

After

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/2009%20Purchases/Septemberpurchases004.jpg

[Zippo]

NO!!!!!!!!

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Hahaha, GG liege. Earlier this year I got a couple of job lots of sealed G1/G2 figures like Stormtroopers, Skyscorchers, Constructicons, Rotor Force and such all MOSC.. Yeah I opened all those bastards up and applied the stickers. Decision was made easier since most cards weren't in great condition, but still. Feels good man.

[Sky Shadow]

Before:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9360/p9010326.jpg

After:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1598/p9010328.jpg

Zoooommmm...

Blitz/G2 Ransack has an awesome transformation and gives me a kind of nostalgia, since his partner, Powerdive, was one of the handful of G2 toys I bought as a ki... um... teenager. The only odd thing about this toy is that some of the plastic is kind of... furry? Kind of rough, like it's been sanded. I actually find that sort of thing a bit when opening G2 toys - maybe something about the glue used to seal the packages? Or sunlight? Or maybe lack of quality control didn't just appear out of nowhere in the late 2000s?

[GoktimusPrime]

There goes Europe!

[heroic_decepticon]

c'mon, who's going to open early G1 MOSC stuff? :D

[1AZRAEL1]

c'mon, who's going to open early G1 MOSC stuff? :D

I would IF I can get my hands on any...

[blackoptimus]

Ah to think it lasted 3 years in my collection sealed...

Please don't quote pic's, as it makes the post longer.

[Zippo]

Please don't quote pic's, as it makes the post longer.

Who made you a moderator.
I have been on the forum a bit longer that you, I know when to quote and not to quote. Cheers

[Doubledealer]

Wanted this little fella for quite some time now as I love the idea of a Transformers detective, glad to finally get my hands on one! And before people start crying, I never wanted a MISB Nightbeat (don't believe in keeping them boxed up) but this one just so happened to come along at a price that was better than many MIB/loose Nightbeat's I've seen. :D

Before:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/MISBG1Nightbeat.jpg

After:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/nightbeatbot.jpg

Fantastic toy of a great character. One interesting thing I've noticed with my Nightbeat is his chin is yellow! When google image searching 'G1 Nightbeat' I can only find pictures of him with an orange chin, no pics or anything mentioned about a yellow one anywhere! I think it's kinda cool, he's got a robo-goatie! :D Anyone know if mine is unique?

[Sky Shadow]

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/nightbeatbot.jpg

Fantastic toy of a great character. One interesting thing I've noticed with my Nightbeat is his chin is yellow! When google image searching 'G1 Nightbeat' I can only find pictures of him with an orange chin, no pics or anything mentioned about a yellow one anywhere! I think it's kinda cool, he's got a robo-goatie! :D Anyone know if mine is unique?

Awesome. And no - I haven't seen a beat-poet Nightbeat like that before. Maybe it's just the photo, but his face also looks really red compared to my Nightbeat, like he's been holding his breath.

[GoktimusPrime]

*nods* that face looks too red, it should be orange - and yeah, the chin should be the same colour as the rest of the face.. I hope that this is some kind of variant and not a KO. There's no such variant as far as I know or can ascertain. :/

References
Nightbeat @ TFU.info (http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Nightbeat/nightbeat.htm)
Photo of Nightbeat from Transformers Generations (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/d/db/G1Nightbeat_toy.jpg)
Known Nightbeat variants (http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vauto.html#night)

[Sky Shadow]

*nods* that face looks too red, it should be orange - and yeah, the chin should be the same colour as the rest of the face.. I hope that this is some kind of variant and not a KO. There's no such variant as far as I know or can ascertain. :/

References
Nightbeat @ TFU.info (http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Nightbeat/nightbeat.htm)
Photo of Nightbeat from Transformers Generations (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/d/db/G1Nightbeat_toy.jpg)
Known Nightbeat variants (http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vauto.html#night)

Maybe at some point while making the French/Dutch batch of Nightbeats they ran out of chin paint. And that TFU.info Nightbeat's chin looks kind of yellow too.

[Doubledealer]

EDIT: Regarding my Nightbeat, this web page reveals all: http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15#0.1_1

It's official Hasbro but it's a Chinese 90's reissue. :/ Going to see if I can return it and get my money back. *sigh*

[1AZRAEL1]

Ah damn dude, thats a shame, I know he can be a hard figure to get hold of as well.

[Doubledealer]

Thanks mate. Hopefully I'll only lose the money it costs to send it back...We'll see I guess.

[Zippo]

EDIT: Regarding my Nightbeat, this web page reveals all: http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15#0.1_1

It's official Hasbro but it's a Chinese 90's reissue. :/ Going to see if I can return it and get my money back. *sigh*

Why return it?
They are after all, offical toys from Hasbro?

[Sky Shadow]

Why return it?
They are after all, offical toys from Hasbro?

Agreed - Doubledealer, if you want a genuine Nightbeat, it's a genuine Nightbeat - there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it's not a knockoff and it was a good price. Lots of us bought Chinese reissues straight off Australian shelves back in the eighties/early nineties (most memorably the bargain Starscreams, Ramjets and Cycloni that glutted the shelves for about $10AU) and none of us now would worry that our toys turned out to be reissues. DD - you really wanted him and were happy before, why should this change things?

[Doubledealer]

Hmm, you guys are right. I really do love him and he is a genuine Hasbro Nightbeat, an unusual one at that! I think I was just shocked initially as I thought I had been mislead by the auction. I'll message the guy back and let him know I'll be hanging onto him. :D Sorry for all the commotion!

[GoktimusPrime]

*nods* There's no shame in keeping this toy if it's legit. :)

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Blitz/G2 Ransack has an awesome transformation

Hell yes he does. Blitz doesn't get anywhere near enough love, I adore the way everything flips out and comes back together the other way.

I've had the fuzzy plastic syndrome on my Blitz's as well, no idea what causes it.

[SOUNDBLASTER]

Wanted this little fella for quite some time now as I love the idea of a Transformers detective, glad to finally get my hands on one! And before people start crying, I never wanted a MISB Nightbeat (don't believe in keeping them boxed up) but this one just so happened to come along at a price that was better than many MIB/loose Nightbeat's I've seen. :D

Before:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/MISBG1Nightbeat.jpg

After:

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu332/Doubledealer_83/Transformers/G1/nightbeatbot.jpg

Fantastic toy of a great character. One interesting thing I've noticed with my Nightbeat is his chin is yellow! When google image searching 'G1 Nightbeat' I can only find pictures of him with an orange chin, no pics or anything mentioned about a yellow one anywhere! I think it's kinda cool, he's got a robo-goatie! :D Anyone know if mine is unique?

That came from the guy who was selling 4 of them right with each one numbered individually ??

I thought the price was pretty good too for a MISB Nightbeat...

Good to read its not a KO.

[blackoptimus]

Who made you a moderator.
I have been on the forum a bit longer that you, I know when to quote and not to quote. Cheers

I've been here for 2 years, this is just a new account. I'm benben2142!

[heroic_decepticon]

hahahahahahahahahahaha.......

[GoktimusPrime]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/facepalm_movieprime.jpg


Hell yes he does. Blitz doesn't get anywhere near enough love, I adore the way everything flips out and comes back together the other way.
G1 toy designer Ono Koujin once said that Blitzwing and Astrotrain were his "all time favourite" designs. :)

[Doubledealer]

That came from the guy who was selling 4 of them right with each one numbered individually ??

I thought the price was pretty good too for a MISB Nightbeat...

Good to read its not a KO.

Indeed it did! I haggled him down to US$100 which I was really pleased with. I keep wandering over to the shelf he's perched on to admire him, tee hee. :D

[SOUNDBLASTER]

Good deal dude. I envy you as you have guns for Nightbeat and I dont :cool:

[heroic_decepticon]

Indeed it did! I haggled him down to US$100 which I was really pleased with. I keep wandering over to the shelf he's perched on to admire him, tee hee. :D

I actually thought of buying a Nightbeat from the same guy when he was down to his last piece. Didn't go it because I realised that it isn't a pure US box and I was not too fond of it. But it clearly is a very nice piece and definitely worth the price. Good stuff!

[liegeprime]

Good deal dude. I envy you as you have guns for Nightbeat and I dont :cool:

Try seller therawyde, at times he comes up with it and plus he charges cheap on postage cost. Ive been buying most of my accessories ( and completed several TFs this way) from him for a year now ever since someone here pointed him out.:D

[SOUNDBLASTER]

Tried to search for him but was an incorrect name dude.. :cool:

[Sky Shadow]

Tried to search for him but was an incorrect name dude.. :cool:

Try this one, Mr. Blaster:

http://stores.shop.ebay.com.au/Bama-A-C-and-Collectibles_Transformers-Toys_W0QQ_fsubZ12959726QQ_sidZ291680370QQ_trksidZp 4634Q2ec0Q2em322

[TheHandsomeCrab]

I released this guy from his polystyrene prison this morning. I feel so naughty. Somebody spank me!

I know it's technically not a Transformer, but close enough in my book.

[GoktimusPrime]

Somebody spank me!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/jasper2.jpg

[TheHandsomeCrab]

That's a paddlin'

[SOUNDBLASTER]

I released this guy from his polystyrene prison this morning. I feel so naughty. Somebody spank me!

I know it's technically not a Transformer, but close enough in my book.

Dang thats a good loooking version of Whirl ..

How much did that set u back MISB ?

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Technically not MISB as the old Takatokus (like Diaclones) didn't come with tape sealing the ends. But it was $120 US from someone in Italy who managed to find a case of the things. Absolute bargain.

[heroic_decepticon]

that's a pretty good deal!

[Gutsman Heavy]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1167/2909092.jpg

formerly MOSC G2 Volt! :D

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Watch out the for rubber band waist, I got my G2 box out of storage recently to find my Volt's one had split, now he's in two pieces. Do not want! D:

[Gutsman Heavy]

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3571/010109freedom.jpg

the liberation continues!

[TheHandsomeCrab]

WHY IS THIS THREAD DEAD

BUMBLEBEE, I CHOOSE YOU!

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x4/adjectivecrab/bumblefree.jpg

[Sky Shadow]

For my next trick, I will saw this box open while my brave and glamorous assistant - G2 Silverbolt - is inside. The front of the box:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8625/p2140261.jpg

The back of the box:

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/7885/p2140264.jpg

<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<saw>
<creeeak>

Ta da!

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2351/p2140271.jpg

[optimus1]

Always nice to see the good ol' fluro G2 transformers get some freedom :p

[5FDP]

*cries and runs away*.....

Seriously though... good on ya! I couldn't do it. I saw what happened to the Ark when that was opened after all those years... people's faces started melting off :eek:

[GoktimusPrime]

This thread is pure win. :) I'd love to see pics of dirge's Camaro being emancipated here. :D

[Sky Shadow]

Not quite G1 or G2, but still twelve years old:

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=156030#post156030

By the way, I think we should add original Beast Wars liberations to this thread, partly because they've all reached a vintage of at least ten years, and partly because I like watching Gutsman Heavy make people cry. :p

[Gutsman Heavy]

That reminds me!

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3208/liberated.jpg

BOOOOORN FREEEE!

[Paulbot]

I did open my MOSC Fuzor Quickstrike a few weeks ago and wondered if I should have taken pictures for this thread.

[GoktimusPrime]

Nice one Gutsman. :) That versus pack is one of very few Transformers I keep sealed -- but I have the Japanese version loose to play with. The toys are the same, but different packaging, and also the JP version didn't come with the exclusive comic book. So as a result I don't have a copy of that comic to read! (if someone would be kind enough to scan me a copy I'd be really grateful :D)

And if anyone is wondering why I didn't open the Hasbro version and keep the Takara version sealed, it's because I was living in Japan when Beast Wars came out. I got the Hasbro version because my parents bought it as a souvenir for me from the U.S. (I still have the KB toy price sticker on the card!) - so since I ended up with doubles in variant packaging, I decided to keep it sealed. Had I got the Hasbro one first I definitely would've opened it (and not bothered getting the Takara version :p)

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Jgon may never forgive me.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x4/adjectivecrab/bornfree.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

Meh... I also got that set sealed and opened it too. :D Toys are meant to be played with damnit! ;)

[Hursticon]

Indeed, toys are meant to be played with, even the Japanese engineers over at TakTom HQ ask that collectors take the figures out of the packaging and transform them, after all that is what they spent months designing them to do. :D

[TheHandsomeCrab]

Meh... I also got that set sealed and opened it too. :D Toys are meant to be played with damnit! ;)

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/i/internet_high_five-2496.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

*lol* Back atcha. :)

[1AZRAEL1]

I did a bit of this last night, was fun :D

Before

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/1AZRAEL1/DiverBefore.jpg

After

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/1AZRAEL1/DiverAfter.jpg

Before

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/1AZRAEL1/MMBefore.jpg

After

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/1AZRAEL1/MMAfter.jpg

The minty smell of old plastics :D

Question, does anyone who opens old figures find that some plastics are sticky? Divers' helmet, axe, and belt, are all sticky. Baby wipes to clean them :D

[valkyrie_76]

it brings a tear to the eye.......damn vandals *sigh*


I leave them trapped BWAHAHAHA :D:D:D

[Zippo]

I would have opened the Micromasters, but not Diver. So .. wrong..

[GoktimusPrime]

*high fives 1AZRAEL1* (and high fives to everyone else who's liberated a G1 toy on this thread :))


So .. wrong..
Well, in my opinion as a "toy emancipator" I see keeping toys sealed as "wrong".

JMHO ;)


.damn vandals *sigh*
"damn killjoys" ;)


I leave them trapped BWAHAHAHA :D:D:D
As Toy Story 2 taught us, sealed toys are EEEEEVIL!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/stinkypete.jpg

Toys that have been opened, played with and loved are good!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/toystory.jpg
:D


I would have opened the Micromasters, but not Diver.
I might have kept Diver sealed, but that's cos I have Waverider. If I did't have Waverider I'd open Diver lickety split! :D

But there is a chance that even if I got Diver I'd probably open him anyway, cos there's no window on that box which means I can't even view the toy while it's sealed. And I really would like to see it since it is a slight variation of Waverider.

Speaking of which, hey 1AZRAEL1, could you please show us a pic of Diver's shell without the helmet? Thanks. :D

[liegeprime]

it brings a tear to the eye.......damn vandals *sigh*


I leave them trapped BWAHAHAHA :D:D:D
I guess those toys will be saying....
Nooooo Freeeeeeddoooooom, freeeedooooom..... do dont lock us in the room, dont turn off the lights , you cant ignore our screams foreveeeeer, freeedooooom!!! :D:D:D:p

@Gok, Im guessing your after what hair color Diver has? heheheh He uses Bellady.

[1AZRAEL1]

I might have kept Diver sealed, but that's cos I have Waverider. If I did't have Waverider I'd open Diver lickety split! :D

Well, I didn't have Waverider, but they need to be opened anyway :p


But there is a chance that even if I got Diver I'd probably open him anyway, cos there's no window on that box which means I can't even view the toy while it's sealed. And I really would like to see it since it is a slight variation of Waverider.

There is a window, the front is just a flap (probably should have taken a photo with it open as well lol). But the main reason I removed it anyway, was because there was a crack/hole/break/thingy in the window in front of the shell inside the box. I shall take a photo of this as well lol.


Speaking of which, hey 1AZRAEL1, could you please show us a pic of Diver's shell without the helmet? Thanks. :D

By your command (in a montone, digitised voice :p)

[GoktimusPrime]

There is a window, the front is just a flap (probably should have taken a photo with it open as well lol).
In that case I'd probably leave it sealed. But if I didn't have Waverider I'd open it for sure! :D

[BigPenney]

Freedom!

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7425/1001747v2.jpg

[dirge]

Question, does anyone who opens old figures find that some plastics are sticky? Divers' helmet, axe, and belt, are all sticky. Baby wipes to clean them :D

Yeah it happens. The uncured resin which sort of sits inside the plastic can express to the surface of the plastic over time. Happened with my Groundbreaker & Bugly, which I got new (but unsealed) a couple of years back. They were water-damaged stock from a warehouse - so never sold but the boxes had been thrown away.

[Sky Shadow]

Question, does anyone who opens old figures find that some plastics are sticky? Divers' helmet, axe, and belt, are all sticky.

Yep - I opened three MISB Centurion toys over the past two days and each of them had at least one 'sticky' bit that needed cleaning. All the oily parts were ones made from more rubbery, flexible plastics like the white accessories on Diver. Those three parts on Diver (helmet, axe and belt) are specifically notable for discolouration 'liver' spots from the plasticiser leaking out - the stickyness is a related (but less unattractive) condition.

[dsaint]

My collection's in various plastic tubs around my house, but every TF I have has been liberated, at least once - I keep the Takra Collection ones in their boxes (mainly because I have alternates to most of them), but they have all breathed fresh air at least once in their lives.....I don't know - I don't buy them for monetary value, or with resale in mind so it doesn't really seem a big deal to me to open them.

[loophole]

G2 Rapido the plastic literally fell off the card

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Loophole83/P1010187.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Loophole83/P1010188.jpg

[liegeprime]

hehehehe leaves you no choice then ei loopy?:D:D

G2 Rapido was my 2nd G2 toy. Was having a hard time picking among the 2 incarnations he came out in - the pink windowed one or the clear gray one. :)

[Sky Shadow]

To shake things up a bit: MISP Toy Preservation Survivor (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8301). :)

[dirge]

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap01.jpg
Skram: I dunno, guys. There's just something missing.
Hotrider: Yeah, but I can't put my finger on it.
Rapido: ¿Por qué solamente tres?

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap02.jpg

Skram: English, dude.
Hotrider: You might have über stats on your tech spec, but we have NFI what you're talking about there fig.
Rapido: ¡lo siento!

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap03.jpg

Skram: Sigh.
Turbofire: Vrooom! Rev! Zing!
Hotrider: Damn septics!
Skram: Hey!
Rapido: ¡No es bueno!

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap04.jpg

Skram: OMG!
Hotrider: ZOMG!!1!
Rapido: ¡MI DIOS!

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap05.jpg

Hotrider: That's what has been missing...
Skram: He's trapped! We have to free him!
Rapido: CUTTER BEAM!!!!!

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap06.jpg

Skram: Steady.
Hotrider: Hold
Rapido: Incisión

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap07.jpg

Zap: I'm free!
Skram: You're welcome.
Rapido: De nada, amigo.
Hotrider: Good to have you on board.

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap08.jpg

Zap: Eep. I'm naked

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap09.jpg

Zap: Start -> Change -> Change - Finish.

http://www.paxeiro.com/zap/zap10.jpg

Hotrider: The gang's all here!
All: :)

[Gutsman Heavy]

top stuff!

[Hursticon]

Congratulations Dirge and well done on the Gen 1.5/2 acquisitions and their liberation. :D

[Oldschool78]

Lol Good one, i was starting to feel a bit sick reading this thread but the last story put a smile on my dial:)

[1AZRAEL1]

That was quite amusing to read :D

[Sky Shadow]

¡Qué bueno!

[heroic_decepticon]

damn, that's funny although I didn't understand half of what was said... heh.

I'll be posting something here later in the day.... :p

[dirge]

damn, that's funny although I didn't understand half of what was said... heh.


Yeah I tried to keep the spanish fairly simple. Which wasn't hard considering I only know simple phrases/words myself.

Anyway glad you guys liked the photocomic. I thought it'd add something new to this thread, as well as give me a way to "celebrate" completing the set.

Skram is the outsider, BTW - the rest are all pink window versions (although I have both Hotrider [pink] and Turbofire [black].

[GoktimusPrime]

CUTTAH BEEEAAAM!!!

[liegeprime]

Skram is the outsider, BTW - the rest are all pink window versions (although I have both Hotrider [pink] and Turbofire [black].


okay so now I know what real names are for the versions I have:D Coz I have all the pink window ones. NO more windbreaker - ZAP he shall be, this is what I get for throwing away the card backs back then without bothering to remember the names correctly first.

The first pics of them walkin somehow reminded me of that Beatles crossing the street picture hehehe

[heroic_decepticon]

Here's my not so original contribution...

Minerva: "Hey, someone's missing."
Go-Shooter: "Who?"
Siren: "I don't know. Let's ask the Autobot detective."
Carb: "Sounds like a plan. Where is he?"
http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/45761/2819399980100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2819399980100811158ENQHhm)

Siren: "He's trapped in a plastic prison on Garrus-10"
Go-Shooter: "Minerva, get him out."
"Yes, Shuta. tee hee."
*slice, slice, slice...*
http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/35004/2143110210100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2143110210100811158khMjoo) http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/107/2529569870100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2529569870100811158XeFLRQ)

Siren: "Damnit Carb, help."
Carb: "wha...?"
Go-Shooter: "Hosehead! Come and help."
Carb (Hosehead): "Oh"
http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/44718/2106497500100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2106497500100811158kUitHC)

All: "He's free!"
http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/24907/2956199800100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2956199800100811158JdZHAt)

Gather round now, boys and girl.
Siren: "Hey detective, we have a question for you: Who is missing?"
http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/33648/2349477960100811158S500x500Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2349477960100811158XQKJtI)

[5FDP]

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2415/chriscrockercrying.jpg

[canofwhoopass_87]

Argggh blasphemy! Good thing there's about a million other MISB Nightbeat's floating around :rolleyes:


... LOL 5FDP that photo pretty much sums it up. Good post haha

[heroic_decepticon]

Argggh blasphemy! Good thing there's about a million other MISB Nightbeat's floating around :rolleyes:


... LOL 5FDP that photo pretty much sums it up. Good post haha

whoop, you're back!

[Doubledealer]

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/33648/2349477960100811158S500x500Q85.jpg

OMG, my blonde bearded Nightbeat with a heart condition has a twin brother! :D

[GoktimusPrime]

Damn I love this thread. :)

[canofwhoopass_87]

whoop, you're back!

I am indeed - much like Gandalf the White in Lord of the Rings The Two Towers... only I haven't returned after fighting and dying to a flaming Balrog. New job is killing me instead. Slowly. :eek::p

[heroic_decepticon]

I am indeed - much like Gandalf the White in Lord of the Rings The Two Towers... only I haven't returned after fighting and dying to a flaming Balrog. New job is killing me instead. Slowly. :eek::p

I see you have returned to us 'at the turn of the tide'... you're not alone. Old job is taking its toll on me too :D

[Ostybeef]

only new to the site but this thread brings tears to my eyes but its good to see collectors who are willing to have a bit of fun also hahah

[Skullcruncher]

What! No liberations so far this year!?!?! :D

[1AZRAEL1]

Yea but not posted in here. Gok liberated Bumblebee with the decoy


open Open OPEN!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Transfan%20Meets/Parramatta%20Meet%20February%202011/parrameet_20110220e.jpg

[Hursticon]

Yea but not posted in here. Gok liberated Bumblebee with the decoy

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/th_skull-skeletor.jpg (http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/?action=view&current=skull-skeletor.jpg)

Hehehe...

[canofwhoopass_87]

What! No liberations so far this year!?!?! :D

No sc! Don't bring attention to this vile thread. Tis a den of evil I tells you!

[liegeprime]

erm would E-hobby G1 stuff count - it was MISB when I bought it - Detritus and Deep Cover... never got around to taking photos when I opened it:p sometime ago ( this year) although purchased late last year ( well one was).... Ill post some when I get around to it hehehe

[Gutsman Heavy]

I've liberated BW Iguanas & Insecticon this year, just doing my part ;)

[Hursticon]

I've liberated BW Iguanas & Insecticon this year, just doing my part ;)

I Salute you sir! :D

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/th_608084175_698f8f60b3.jpg (http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/?action=view&current=608084175_698f8f60b3.jpg)

[GoktimusPrime]

I've liberated BW Iguanas & Insecticon this year, just doing my part ;)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/jaam_jaam.gif
An open toy is a happy toy. Sealed toys are eeeevil!

Happy --> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/th_toystory.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/th_stinkypete.jpg <--vile & bitter!

[Jaisun]

This thread needs an enema!

Soooo....

Shall I....?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150188643609086&set=a.470343849085.251024.542189085&type=1

[Vector Prime]

This thread needs an enema!

Soooo....

Shall I....?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150188643609086&set=a.470343849085.251024.542189085&type=1

Unless people are your friends on facebook, they can't see the contents of that link mate.

[Jaisun]

Unless people are your friends on facebook, they can't see the contents of that link mate.

Wow, excuse me while I noob it up some more... what a fail =oP I tried IS and PB, but cant remember my logins and it wont let me use it, hence why I tried FB. Thanks for letting me know.

Take 2...

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.a6ea00ff77.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?a6ea00ff77.jpg)

[Hursticon]

Wow, excuse me while I noob it up some more... what a fail =oP I tried IS and PB, but cant remember my logins and it wont let me use it, hence why I tried FB. Thanks for letting me know.

Take 2...

*snip*

My Anti-Malware program reports that link as being a Security Risk and is blocking it. :p

Maybe a 3rd round? :o

[GoktimusPrime]

*hands Jaisun a box cutter* Go for it, son. ;)

[Jaisun]

*hands Jaisun a box cutter* Go for it, son. ;)

Oh dear... I just opened Sea Spray, placed him beside his twin, but the colours are wrong... Now I dunno if I've been KO'd or it's sun faded (the pack isn't). Either way, it sucks to have a "new" Sea Spray less appealing than the oldie =o( Will post pics soon...

*EDIT*

Mmkay, here are pics, the recently liberated is on the left. I also noticed the stickers aren't very foil-like, more like a silk sheen. So is it a cheap KO, or just a bit different because it's from Portugal?
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6542/p5191086.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/p5191086.jpg/)http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3868/p5191088.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/p5191088.jpg/)http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5143/p5191089.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/p5191089.jpg/)http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/46/p5191091.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/p5191091.jpg/)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1680/p5191093.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/p5191093.jpg/)

[Sky Shadow]

Oh dear... I just opened Sea Spray, placed him beside his twin, but the colours are wrong... Now I dunno if I've been KO'd or it's sun faded (the pack isn't). Either way, it sucks to have a "new" Sea Spray less appealing than the oldie =o( Will post pics soon...

*EDIT*

Mmkay, here are pics, the recently liberated is on the left. I also noticed the stickers aren't very foil-like, more like a silk sheen. So is it a cheap KO, or just a bit different because it's from Portugal?
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6542/p5191086.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/p5191086.jpg/)http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3868/p5191088.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/p5191088.jpg/)http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5143/p5191089.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/p5191089.jpg/)http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/46/p5191091.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/p5191091.jpg/)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1680/p5191093.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/p5191093.jpg/)

The one you've liberated isn't a knockoff, but it is a 1989-92 Chinese reissue, so the plastic and stickers would be different to a 1985 toy. This page has quite a bit of information about reissue Seaspray: http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15

[Jaisun]

The one you've liberated isn't a knockoff, but it is a 1989-92 Chinese reissue, so the plastic and stickers would be different to a 1985 toy. This page has quite a bit of information about reissue Seaspray: http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/15

Thank you very much for that, a very helpful link =o) So it's a mixed bag of feelings on this one... I feel mildly ripped thinking I had some originals, but they are reissues, but still official, but not as official as I hoped for, but not KO... etc etc etc... Either way, I'm glad they are free now, because if I didn't liberate them, I probably would've assumed they were originals the whole time.

[GoktimusPrime]

Mint On Sealed Card Leadfoot...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/acquisitions/vintage%20liberation/liberation_leadfoot1.jpg

cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut

Emancipated Leadfoot! :D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/acquisitions/vintage%20liberation/liberation_leadfoot2.jpg

That old bubble was HARD to cut too! :eek:

[Gutsman Heavy]

yay!

[loophole]

finally got around to letting this guy loose

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Loophole83/TF%20Customs%20and%20Purchases/P9090334.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Loophole83/TF%20Customs%20and%20Purchases/P9090335.jpg

[Hursticon]

Nice one there Loopy, I loved those figures as a kid and have considered reacquiring them... Too many other things on my platter at the moment though. :D:cool:

[Aqua Prime]

Ehobby G1 Ghost Starscream was liberated today :)

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1523.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1526.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1527.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1528.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1531.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1532.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1534.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/sajica_2006/TF%20Collection/IMG_1535.jpg


Soooooooooo nice

[liegeprime]

Aww I shouldve taken pics when I emancipated G2 Electro 2 years ago.. not sure if this thread was created back then already though hehehe... after all Electro ( a non broken one) is the hardest to find among the Illuminators. Nice one Loopy!!

That Ghost screamer looks so exquisite Aqua Prime!! I imagine it'll look more awesome while piccied on a light stand:D:D

[canofwhoopass_87]

e-hobby G1 Starscream isn't exactly a vintage piece. I deem it unworthy of the terrible, cringeworthy, eye bursting, gut wrenching, testical squeezing, coma inducing title that is the "Vintage Transformer Liberation" thread.

I really need to unsubscribe from this thread of the damned, but it's just too intriguing to pass up :D

[Aqua Prime]

I thought it was later deemed just a liberation thread. He's like a 10yo figure... :p


My apologies whoopass

[liegeprime]

e-hobby G1 Starscream isn't exactly a vintage piece. I deem it unworthy of the terrible, cringeworthy, eye bursting, gut wrenching, testical squeezing, coma inducing title that is the "Vintage Transformer Liberation" thread.

I really need to unsubscribe from this thread of the damned, but it's just too intriguing to pass up :D

Remember this Whoopy. eherm...

"You'll never know what your missing unless you open it" - liegeprime:D:D

[Oldschool78]

e-hobby G1 Starscream isn't exactly a vintage piece. I deem it unworthy of the terrible, cringeworthy, eye bursting, gut wrenching, testical squeezing, coma inducing title that is the "Vintage Transformer Liberation" thread.

I really need to unsubscribe from this thread of the damned, but it's just too intriguing to pass up :D

Im with you dude, I could never bring myself to liberate vintage stuff, I find it hard enough to do DOTM. Anyways its great to see what it would look like if i did do it
That packaging for the purple hotrod is much nicer than mine. Ive got the plastic version. Looks a lot cheaper than the carded version

[heroic_decepticon]

I thought it was later deemed just a liberation thread. He's like a 10yo figure... :p


My apologies whoopass

I can't believe its been 10 years since I first saw these guys on the shelf. How time flies.

[GoktimusPrime]

Before...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/acquisitions/acquisition_20131115_zps9bff0325.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_cuttahbeam_zpsc3c2bc1f.jpg

...After!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/acquisitions/acquisition_20131115a_zpsddec0a60.jpg

[jazzcomp]

Where do you get these? :)

[Mythirax]

finally got around to letting this guy loose

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll214/Loophole83/TF%20Customs%20and%20Purchases/P9090335.jpg

Took me a moment to even realize he was standing on the card :D:cool:

[GoktimusPrime]

Recently liberated a G2 Roadblock. Didn't take any pictures but (too busy cuttin' that bubble open!). :D Man... old blisters are significantly tougher to slice open than current toys! Normally when I cut open a carded toy my blade just cuts through the blister like a knife through butter... but with older carded toys I gotta do a careful sawing action. And sometimes I end up shifting that whole part of the blister, tearing part of the card anyway. There were a few times where I would cut around the corners, but use scissors to snip along edges to try and minimise card-tearing blister shifting. I guess blisters must harden up with age or something. :/

[UltraMarginal]

Recently liberated a G2 Roadblock. Didn't take any pictures but (too busy cuttin' that bubble open!). :D Man... old blisters are significantly tougher to slice open than current toys! I guess they must harden up with age or something. :/

I'll guarantee you there is a lot less plastic in a modern blister than one from 25 years ago. Materials science keeps advancing and application of solid mechanics gradually makes it's way into packaging design. :cool:

[GoktimusPrime]

I'll guarantee you there is a lot less plastic in a modern blister than one from 25 years ago. Materials science keeps advancing and application of solid mechanics gradually makes it's way into packaging design. :cool:
That explains a lot. Cheers. ;) I never cut open G1/G2 blisters when I was collecting them as a kid... just ripped them off the card (though always did so as carefully as possible :o)

[Tha_Phantom]

Liberated G2 Breakdown!

Now before I get the predictable responses, yes I did try to trade this for a loose one but no luck. It seems there are more sealed than loose ones floating around. In fact there are two sealed ones on eBay right now, so you are more than welcome to go buy those. ;)

https://i.ibb.co/M9zFCz1/opening.jpg (https://ibb.co/t30VJ02)
https://i.ibb.co/3phsV9H/breakdown.jpg (https://ibb.co/pfXPNBp)

[spiderken17]

Cool. I collect loose 90's marvel figures and I want them in the best condition possible. Best way to do that is buy carded ones and open 'em up! I dig it.

[KELPIE]

This thread makes me cry.

[GoktimusPrime]

This thread makes me cry.
Tears of joy. Nothing more fun than crackin' open a toy to play with. :)

[Ravagecat]

This thread makes me cry.

I am not strictly a MISB collector about 20% sealed / 80% opened but the G2 Breakdown thumb shot definitely made me cringe :eek:

[GoktimusPrime]

My pics of G2 Breakdown at a shopping centre food court (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=773&page=355) and that didn't upset anyone. ;)

[KELPIE]

Tears of joy. Nothing more fun than crackin' open a toy to play with. :)
Yeah, except I bet on an individual toy basis, most of your figures sit on a shelf in display more than they are played with. Also, you already have plenty to play with.


I am not strictly a MISB collector about 20% sealed / 80% opened but the G2 Breakdown thumb shot definitely made me cringe :eek:

Yeah, I have no issues with opening up current modern figures, but anything vintage or rare... ugh :(

[Tha_Phantom]

Yeah, I have no issues with opening up current modern figures, but anything vintage or rare... ugh :(

Generally, I'd agree with you that vintage stuff should be left as is. If you want a loose Bumblebee for instance then go buy a loose Bumblebee, there are plenty around. Going to the effort of finding and then paying the kidney that a sealed Bumblebee goes for and then opening it I think is silly (but of course people can do what they want with their own money).

Now in the case of G2 Breakdown there just aren't that many loose ones around. As I said earlier I've seen more sealed ones for sale and I did make an attempt to trade for a loose one. I refuse to go along with the notion that sealed collecting takes priority over loose where there aren't that many loose options to begin with. If there ARE plenty of loose options, then yeah, kinda unnecessary to free up more (but I respect their right to do it).

[KELPIE]

Generally, I'd agree with you that vintage stuff should be left as is. If you want a loose Bumblebee for instance then go buy a loose Bumblebee, there are plenty around. Going to the effort of finding and then paying the kidney that a sealed Bumblebee goes for and then opening it I think is silly (but of course people can do what they want with their own money).

Now in the case of G2 Breakdown there just aren't that many loose ones around. As I said earlier I've seen more sealed ones for sale and I did make an attempt to trade for a loose one. I refuse to go along with the notion that sealed collecting takes priority over loose where there aren't that many loose options to begin with. If there ARE plenty of loose options, then yeah, kinda unnecessary to free up more (but I respect their right to do it).

Very good and well reasoned post.

In the case of Breakdown though... he's just a repaint, so for the sake of "playing" with him, doesn't any old Breakdown scratch that itch?

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, except I bet on an individual toy basis, most of your figures sit on a shelf in display more than they are played with.
I play with - as a bare minimum - at least one different Transformer toy a day (I have my Animated Activator Soundwave sitting on my desk right now). If I have more time then I'll play with more, especially if I'm doing a proper toy play campaign.

In the case of Breakdown though... he's just a repaint, so for the sake of "playing" with him, doesn't any old Breakdown scratch that itch?
It depends. Does playing with a G1 Sideswipe sate your desire to play with a G2 Sideswipe? I mean, for me G2 toys represent an entirely different period in Transformers canon, so if I want to play with them from the G2 period (e.g. War World, the Swarm etc.) then I'd like to have G2.

[KELPIE]

I play with - as a bare minimum - at least one different Transformer toy a day (I have my Animated Activator Soundwave sitting on my desk right now). If I have more time then I'll play with more, especially if I'm doing a proper toy play campaign.
You have more than 2500 figures in your collection, so on average, assuming you ensure a fair rotation, each figure gets played with on average of once every 6 years. So yes, your figures sit on a shelf, in display, more than they are played with.


It depends. Does playing with a G1 Sideswipe sate your desire to play with a G2 Sideswipe? I mean, for me G2 toys represent an entirely different period in Transformers canon, so if I want to play with them from the G2 period (e.g. War World, the Swarm etc.) then I'd like to have G2.
Yes, playing with either G1 or G2 Sideswipe would negate the need for me to play with the other.

Also, using your scenario, there is no in-continuity reason for the colour difference of Sideswipe between G1 and G2, so apart from trying to sell old toys to a new generation, a red Sideswipe fits perfectly well in the G2 world (as seen in the G2 cartoon ;) ). It's not a Bumblebee/Goldbug scenario or golden lagoon/hate plague scenario.

[GoktimusPrime]

You have more than 2500 figures in your collection, so on average, assuming you ensure a fair rotation, each figure gets played with on average of once every 6 years. So yes, your figures sit on a shelf, in display, more than they are played with.
2313 actually (I know, Cybertron Collectors and other magazines quoted me as having 2500... not sure where they got that number from), but yeah, fair point in that it would take me a while to cycle through all of my toys. I've currently got about a dozen figures sprawled all over my toy room from a recent play. :) And there are a handful of figures that have been "retired" as display pieces - these would be toys that have become too frail to withstand play (typically GPS figures). One thing that I love about G1 reissues is that I can "retire" my G1s and play with the reissues.

G2 Breakdown is still in pretty good condition (actually much better condition than my G1 Breakdown), so I'm still fine to keep on playing with it.

[spiderken17]

Lets also not forget how fun it is to open a new toy from its packaging. Sometimes that makes it all worth it.

[Tha_Phantom]

In the case of Breakdown though... he's just a repaint, so for the sake of "playing" with him, doesn't any old Breakdown scratch that itch?

For some it might. I used to have a strict "no repaints" rule when I didn't have as much money to collect, but now I enjoy collecting variants.
For me personally, loose collecting takes priority over sealed, I just enjoy them more out of the packaging. I always will try to buy loose instead of opening up a vintage figure though. G2 Breakdown was the exception to the rule, for reasons I stated earlier.