What would you like to see in TF3?

[GoktimusPrime]

Keeping in mind that what has been done cannot be undone, so this thread isn't looking for conveniently undoing things from the previous movies that you may not like (at least not in a way that contradicts existing movie continuity), but rather discussing what we would like to see in the third installment.

I'll get the ball rolling with something relatively simple: I would like to see the Autobots performing heroic duties other than fighting. One of my most memorable moments from the first episode of Transformers Car Robot (RiD) was seeing Fire Convoy's first appearance as a fire engine fighting a household fire alongside human firefighters (who didn't even know their engine was also a transforming robot!). As Neil Kaplan pointed out in a DVD interview, unlike other Optimus Primes, RiD OP is always a hero - not just when he's fighting Predacons/Decepticons. Video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6XtjsJOdMA) :)

It's not too often in Transformers that we are reminded that being a hero isn't always about beating the bad guys. As Yoda would say, "Wars not make one great," and I'd really like to see them perform other acts of heroism too. It doesn't need to be a dominant or recurring theme in the movie - it could just be a one off scene in the movie, just to show what the Autobots have been up to _other_ than hunting Decepticons. :)

[canofwhoopass_87]

Defensor......:D

[liegeprime]

More human insects getting squished, and no implied death this time... should be like as it is in a fight/war - kinda like Saving Private Ryan death scenes:D no namby pamby coffins with american flag on top after scenes to imply a lot of death.

I didnt wanna request anymore G1 characters coz I didnt wanna risk having them make a butchered version and as was told before yadayada "rape of childhood yadayada... prolly keep the current line up and just , you know more character development this time for pete's sake....whoever pete is.

[GoktimusPrime]

More human insects getting squished, and no implied death this time... should be like as it is in a fight/war - kinda like Saving Private Ryan death scenes no namby pamby coffins with american flag on top after scenes to imply a lot of death.
I suspect that would pump it up to an R18+ rating. Not sure if Paramount/Hasbro would be cool with that.


I didnt wanna request anymore G1 characters coz I didnt wanna risk having them make a butchered version and as was told before yadayada "rape of childhood yadayada... prolly keep the current line up and just , you know more character development this time for pete's sake....whoever pete is.
They screwed up G2 characters way more than G1! I'm not happy with the Jolt and Mudflap names being used for Autobots. I'd like to see TF3 be more like TF1 and try to keep characters true to their original counterparts even to a basic degree. I don't mind the movie characters being a complete departure from their original counterparts, but seeing Autobots running around with Decepticon names is a bit much for me.

There is a _rich_ pool of names from G1 and G2 that writers can draw from - I don't see any need for them to reassign Decepticon names as Autobots (or vice versa). I liked how TF1 used some really obscure characters/names from G1 like Barricade (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_%28G1%29) and Blackout (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Blackout_%28G1%29). I'd personally like to see this happening again in TF3 over just haphazardly plucking TF names and randomly slapping them onto movie characters.

[TheDirtyDigger]

A decent plot and characterisation.

[liegeprime]

I don't mind the movie characters being a complete departure from their original counterparts, but seeing Autobots running around with Decepticon names is a bit much for me.



Eagle Eye? :D:D

[RageOnTheRoads]

It's not too often in Transformers that we are reminded that being a hero isn't always about beating the bad guys. As Yoda would say, "Wars not make one great," and I'd really like to see them perform other acts of heroism too. It doesn't need to be a dominant or recurring theme in the movie - it could just be a one off scene in the movie, just to show what the Autobots have been up to _other_ than hunting Decepticons. :)

I'd second that! :D

And perhaps some insight into Barricades David Copperfield like disappearing act!

Not that I want this personally, but I would be surprised if Unicron wasn't in TF3. It would be nice to see some other seekers too, or even better a whole army of seekers under Starscream's command. That would be coolies. As would more Sideswipe, Ironhide, Jolt and Ratchet... and less twins.

Some more of the Spielberg touch.

No Stunticons... don't want to see them get butchered Bay style.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

A new director.
Someone to keep an eye on the continuity of the film.

Less Star Wars refences...:D

[valkyrie_76]

A new director.
Someone to keep an eye on the continuity of the film.

Less Star Wars refences...:D

+1

[Gutsman Heavy]

Beast Modes

[kup]

At this point, I don't really care. Its not what we want its what Bay wants.

[Sleeve]

A decent plot and characterisation.

Gold. :D

[sanbot]

The 3rd movie will be set 30 years later. Shia Lebouf and Megan Fox died but not before Megan Fox gives birth to a boy and a girl. They now want to take revenge for their parents death.

i.e. replace Shia Lebouf and Megan Fox :p

[GoktimusPrime]

At this point, I don't really care. Its not what we want its what Bay wants.
Forget Bay, this thread is asking what you would like to see within TF3 - within the assumption that it cannot conflict with what's already been established in TF1 and ROTF. :)



A decent plot and characterisation.

Gold.
+1 :)

[RagingBull]

more beast bots, done ravage style or even done with totaly organic outter skins.

more odd proportion transformers! bots like bonecrusher who had odd proportions all the way up to demolishor who had a wheel and now body. i got a thing for the odd ones.

more household items becoming transformers they were awesome, i wish more figures of them where coming out.

more combiners too :D

[Sky Shadow]

In the first second, Megatron releases a virus that wipes out all carbon-based life on Earth.

The rest writes itself. :)

[SofaMan]

A decent plot and characterisation.

+1

Unicron and Dinobots would be nice too.

[Jhiaxus]

Honestly, I'd like to see a natural progression of some of the concepts introduced in the previous films.

For example, we've seen a TF hump someone.
We've seen a TF scrotum.

Why not an actual phallus in the next film?
--Jhiaxus.
(It's not like we've never seen that sort of thing before!)

[Beast_Wars_Superior]

I wouldn't mind seeing Starscream backstab Megatron.

What I would really like to see is a storyline which ties the Mayan calendar in with Unicron. Think about this: maybe he enslaved the humans and ruled them like a God (why? Who cares?) and before he left for some as-yet unknown reason, he drew up their calendar. So on December 21st, 2012, Unicron appears in the sky, mouth open, ready to eat the Earth.

But before he can, Sam, Mikaela, Optimus and a few other Autobots, who have spent the previous two hours on a universe-wide easter egg hunt (hidden space bridges FTW!), appear in a giant spaceship. The ship transforms into Omega Supreme, who engages in an epic fight with Unicron to save the Earth. Preferably, he drags Unicron off to another solar system (which has already been established as devoid of life) and they throw planets and asteroids at each other. If you're going to end the series as a trilogy, I think nothing less would suffice. :p

Also, maybe Unicron was awakened by Starscream in a plot to destroy Megatron, but it backfires and becomes a real 'what have I done' moment. Then again, I'd shy away from anything that brings back memories of X-Men 3... :(

Also, can we get someone other than Linkin Park to do the song?

EDIT: Just realised, the thought of movie-line toys of Unicron and OS scares me. They'd probably be conversion level 5 or something. :p

[Lord_Zed]

More Bumblebee and Prime and less twins thanks. Some more Wheelie is fine to.




Why not an actual phallus in the next film?
--Jhiaxus.
(It's not like we've never seen that sort of thing before!)

Pretty sure one of the kitchen bots already had one, and was using it to shoot at Sam.




Also, can we get someone other than Linkin Park to do the song?

Hehehehe!
+1

[Beast_Wars_Superior]

Some more Wheelie is fine to.

Things You Thought You'd Never Hear A TF Fan Say, Number 37. :D

[Lord_Zed]

Things You Thought You'd Never Hear A TF Fan Say, Number 37. :D

ROTF's greatest legacy!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Serious wants: more appliance bots, and a deluxe Dispensor toy. Sunstreaker. Lots of explicit human deaths and more Autobot brutality. Even more explosions. Orange Wheelie repaint. Ice-cream twins toy repaint with Decepticon evil clown motif.
Could-be-cool wants: Headmasters. Ultra Magnus replete with transforming trailer armor. Maybe a GI Joe crossover. Boatformers (ones that actually show up onscreen).
Why-the-heck-not? wants: More dick/fart/toilet humor and racist stereotypes, MORE I SAY! Sam's mother becomes a crack junkie and/or drug dealer. Optimus Prime to die (again), maybe twice in the same film this time - that hasn't been done yet right? Autobots appearing in public safety announcements 'cos knowing is half the battle. At least 2 TFs with robot-modes inspired by MC Escher.
On-set fistfights between Megan Fox and Michael Bay, or at least more publicity statements like last time. Shia LaBouef to get so depressed by how Megan Fox thinks of him as 'like a brother' that he kills himself.

The 3rd movie will be set 30 years later. Shia Lebouf and Megan Fox died but not before Megan Fox gives birth to a boy and a girl. They now want to take revenge for their parents death.

i.e. replace Shia Lebouf and Megan Fox :pI'm down with having them live as long as we get Harrison Ford as old Sam Witwicky.:D Lynda Carter as old Mikaela Banes. If not then I still want flashbacks dammit.

Forget Bay, this thread is asking what you would like to see within TF3 - within the assumption that it cannot conflict with what's already been established in TF1 and ROTF. :)"Sam wakes up (next to a half-eaten plate of brownies) and finds it was all a dream...a terrible, terrible dream..."

Mostly I want Spielberg to get so caught up in TF3 that he forgets to maul Ghost in the Shell.

[SilverDragon]

A decent plot and characterisation.

This.

Also, I'd like to see the Autobots become more like the Autobots in other fictions, i.e. 'freedom is the right of all sentient beings', and I'd ESPECIALLY like to see Prime not do any 'GIVE ME YOUR FACE' crap. In the first film, he seemed rather benevolent, e.g. he regretted killing Megatron. In RotF, well, he became something of a psychopath.



EDIT: Just realised, the thought of movie-line toys of Unicron and OS scares me. They'd probably be conversion level 5 or something. :p

A Movie Unicron toy would probably have a conversion level of over 9000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI) or something.

[Bartrim]

Unicron show up and about to destroy Earth when Drift appears out of nowhere and slices him apart:) That would be teh sickest!:p

[d*r*j*]

GI Joe Crossover!

[willocrew]

More Robot screentime... less human screen time.

Shia Labeouf & Megan Fox to make Cameo appearances.

Will there be budget/financial difficulties and increasing robot action screen time? maybe... but i'll be nice if the movie was heavily weighted towards Robots.

[SilverDragon]

Unicron show up and about to destroy Earth when Drift appears out of nowhere and slices him apart:) That would be teh sickest!:p

I think Shane McCarthy would need a new pair of pants if that happened.

[Ironhide63]

very simple...a plot, lots of sideswipe, and a lot of megan fox...

[Doubledealer]

I'd like to see:

-the fleshing out of individual Transformers pasts using flashbacks to Cybertron

-Barricade is reintroduced in spectacular fashion by having him transform into robot mode while a human passenger (a policeman, innocently eating a donut and making a silly Baytastic joke) sits in the drivers seat. He does this infront of an Autobot (camera positioned to show barricade's lower torso in foreground with blood pouring onto the ground - Autobot can be seen between the gap in the background looking on in terror) who he then easily disposes of due to them being in shock.

-gun for hire, Doubledealer, ;) has been hired by the Decepticons to take out human members of NEST - Optimus responds by calling for Nightbeat to come to earth to investigate/cautiously go after the (as yet unknown to the Autobots) villain whilst the rest of the Autobots focus on the remaining Decepticons

-a morally bankrupt bounty hunter in the vein of Lockdown who steals other Transformers parts (he's first seen repairing/upgrading Megatron's war wounds)

-Sam Witwicky in a coma the entire film (this doesn't need to be explained in great detail - maybe BB could rage upgrade to Goldbug at the same time)

[AussieJason]

-Sam Witwicky in a coma the entire film (this doesn't need to be explained in great detail)

We can only hope. In Bay's world, nothing needs explaining. If it gets too complicated, you add another explosion. Problem solved.

[GoktimusPrime]

"Whatever happened to Barric--" KABOOM!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Just read the comments here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=8854) and was struck by the best idea for TF3 yet. We know that Michael Bay is good at explosions and action but not so strong on plot, so let's play to his strengths...
Clearly the whole thing should be a plotless montage of Transformer battles, explosions, and Megan Fox slow-motion running Baywatch style, set to the 1812 overture.

[dirge]

I know Demonac would be up for that idea, Odie.

[Maxiewolf]

...Getting Roland Emmerich to Direct it? .... Cos then, for sure Unicron Would show up and.. (surprise) Pretty much destroy the earth (almost but not quite except for a few survivors) cumilating in an *epic* battle vs Unicron/Decepticons/impossible odds etc. in the end (where said small group of unlikely survivors manages to defeat/overcome end of world type problem...) usually with the main hero of the story sacrificing (or at least making you think they have) themselves to do so (take your pick of Optimus or Sam here... or both... who knows.)

Oh yeah and you would also get a bonus hour of unessisary characterisation.. so for those of you who want "more indepth look at characters" that would really work... Huge scenes of Destruction... (without the *explosion* ... huh.. was that a plot hol.. *explosion* .. but what happen.. *explosion* .. oh forget it...)

On top of all that....maybe.... just *MAYBE* one could ask for some more G1 Characters... (Like others have said... I really want to see the Stunticons... but.. Id cry if they where butchered... I could see what would happen with current psycopathic Optimus and it bodes about as well for Motormaster and the others as it did for Grindor... ) Here endith my 2c. :D

[Gutsman Heavy]

After he raped Godzilla there is no way he should be let loose on Transformers.

[Maxiewolf]

After he raped Godzilla there is no way he should be let loose on Transformers.

I totally ignored that rendition of godzilla... i dont think ive ever actually watched more than 5 minutes of it. Cant possibly imagine why.

Though I was being mildly sarcastic given the guys track record for the same kinds of movies.

Id say the fanchise has been sufficently raped already when we're affraid to ask for our favorite characters for fear of what will happen to them T_T

[dsaint]

The first movie was at least tolerable - if you took it as a popcorn flick and not too seriously, but at least it made some attempt (however limply) at having a story at its core. My partner at the time who is quite derisive of most blockbuster films could even find things to like about it.
The "rape" happened with the second one - as I have stated elsewhere it seems Bay felt that he allowed too much story and too much dialogue in the first and took every opportunity to make it more focused on tits and explosions. He also wanted to express his an unquestioning love and support of the US Military. There was potential but he wanted to shove it down people's throats. IT actually dismays me that the film was a blockbuster - if that makes me "elitist" so be it.
I don't think there's anything short of handing the franchise toa different director and scriptwriters that could make a third movie redeem ROTF.

[Tommy K]

a good film

oh and some more sound affects

KABOOM!
WOOSH!
REAARRRRRROOOO!
PEW PEW PEW

and etcetera

also i want to hear "the touch" while optimus verses the main bad guy. even if its unicron lol

[AussieJason]

I don't think there's anything short of handing the franchise to a different director and scriptwriters that could make a third movie redeem ROTF.


How about rebooting the series.

As popular as ROTF was, will the TF movies end up like the Batman series did with Batman & Robin ?

Mercifully, Batman was rescued with a reboot. That was a big risk, but it did pay off. If TF3 doesn't perform, rebooting Transformers may be a bridge too far for most movie execs that write big cheques.

[Maxiewolf]

Hmm might be a bit early for a "Reboot" as such, Id say we would have to wait a few years of movies on hiatus for that. I think overall if they really just pull up their boots and FOCUS on the Story line just a bit more than the SFX then TF3 will be good.. probly doesnt matter who directs it then.

OH yeah I agree... Id like to see some more beasties... One thing that woudl have been cool Is if they actually had Ravagesqe type transformers that had a vehicle mode... similar to his BT form, I dont really count that "missile" form as much of an alt mode.

[Starscream212]

I think the bigger budget for ROTF compared to the first movie was to blame, Bay was constricted with the amount of fighting and robot scenes in the first movie therefore more people and character development was needed, so here came a bigger budget for ROTF and he went nuts!!!!
No real story, less character development, but as many explosions and robots as possible!
Transformers 3 will most likely have even more explosions, robots and less of a story than ROTF because bay will have an even bigger budget! Hopefully there will be some cool characters aka unicron so we can have an insane toy to purchase!

So a credible and faithful movie is unlikely so therefore i want to see as many transformers and explosions possible with more combiners, unicron and DINOBOTS or BEAST WARS robots lol

well thats my 2 cents lol

[liegeprime]

heheheh something about the word floated around "rape" and "The touch" as a background music just doesnt feel right...:p

[LordCyrusOmega]

Less of the "human factor"
Less of the stupid humour eg everything to do with agent simmons.
More character development with robots. Jolt was in nearly the whole movie but was more of background material.
Oh and i know it was a budget thing but did the autobots really just hang out in alt mode when not doing anything?

[GoktimusPrime]

The human factor is something that Spielberg insists on in order for members of the general movie going public to relate to, and I agree with him. I think the _way_ that humans interact with Transformers matters more than whether they're there or not. So long as the humans have a presence that is useful and contributes to the advancement of the story/plot then I don't mind. :)

BRING ON MOOFIE CIRCUIT BREAKER!! :D

[kup]

The human factor is something that Spielberg insists on in order for members of the general movie going public to relate to, and I agree with him. I think the _way_ that humans interact with Transformers matters more than whether they're there or not. So long as the humans have a presence that is useful and contributes to the advancement of the story/plot then I don't mind. :)


That assumes that the director can actually pull off character performances which he is reknown to be completerly inefective at.

This is the argument I had with Dirge ages ago - It's not just about 'human factor' its what you do with it and Bay stuffs it up with numerous useless scenes and appaling humor.

Going back to TF1 - Will somebody please explain what was the point of the entire 'code breakers' subplot? Couldn't that time be better spend on Sam's relationship with the Autobots and increasing the Decepticon's supposed threat to humanity with some more exposure? Speilberg balanced out the 'human condition' by having a human interact with the aliens and reflecting that humanity into something that is essentially non human (eg ET).

Human condition is fine and I support it but not with an hack like Bay at the helm.

[GoktimusPrime]

Okay, but this thread is about what we'd like to see in TF3 and not simply a "Bay bashing" thread. Expressing what you didn't like about previous movies is fine but it should be followed up with therefore how you would like to see that improved upon in the next movie, rather than just hurling insults at Michael Bay.

[dirge]

kup, I think we can all see that Bay's focus on the human factor has hurt ROTF. How would you suggest the production work around Bay's involvement, whilst still retaining a human factor?

[The_Damned]

well i liked the two movies and look forward to the next one, i would love to see Omega supreme or metroplex make an appearance.

[kup]

kup, I think we can all see that Bay's focus on the human factor has hurt ROTF. How would you suggest the production work around Bay's involvement, whilst still retaining a human factor?

I have already mentioned what I think would work while retaining the human factor.

[Tommy K]

well i liked the two movies and look forward to the next one, i would love to see Omega supreme or metroplex make an appearance.

that would be awesome, or even because rebirth seems to happen allot in these movies, devastator gets reborn and wages a fight of galactic proportions with omega supreme

plus we need some australia scenes, anyone else realise in alien invasion movies australia either gets a cameo or something in a 10-30 second shot. i think its time australia had some of the awesomeness

[Prime_217]

well first off i deffs dont want any dinobots... they just wouldnt make snece in the movie verse. and i want to see more of the bike sisters because i thought they were awesome! and more sideswipe and more prime but not so much of him killing cos thats just not prime.:D

[GoktimusPrime]

Devastator wouldn't need to be reborn... remember that there's an army of Constructicons out there; they just need to grab another group to form another Devastator. If Devvy appears in TF3 I really hope that HasTak gives us a REAL proper set of fully transforming & combining Constructicons instead of just reusing the ROTF moulds. (-_-)

[OrionPax]

would like to see the background story of each transformer to be told in the movie, not just the comics and also a little more focus on the decepticons; what makes them who they are. They should also fill in some gaps such as the telling how transformers came to exist (that should have already been covered), primus, unicron, etc.

[GoktimusPrime]

The problem with that is time. You just don't have time to give a detailed exposition on _every_ single character, especially when dealing with armies! Such things are relagated to "expanded universe" material in books, comics etc.

Look at Star Wars, there are _so_ many characters who appear in that film, but only a handful of them are really shown in detail in the movies. The rest appear in the expanded universe; and Star Wars expanded universe basically creates stories for every character that appears. Like the Mos Eisley Cantina that's packed with random aliens; they _all_ have a story! A classic example of this is Boba Fett. In the original trilogy all he does in the movies is capture Han Solo and then gets thrown into the Sarlacc by a blind man with a stick. The end. If you look only at The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, he really isn't that interesting of a character. Yet he's become one of the most enduring fan favourites, and a lot of that is due to the additional stories told about him in comic books etc. So much so that in the prequel trilogy his story ties in with the Clone Wars. And again, through the expanded universe the story of Jango Fett's involvement in the creation of the Clone Army ties in with the story of the Mandalorians, something which we know nothing about from the movies!

But if they bothered to go into further detail about Boba Fett, Jango Fett and the Mandalorian story arcs, it would derail the movies from the main story about the Skywalkers. So because of that it's just not possible to do that in a movie. Not even the Lord of the Rings Trilogy was able to fully explain everything from the books, and they were _long_ movies. The Extended Version went into further detail (e.g.: explaining that Aragorn isn't a normal human) but still left out a lot of other things (e.g.: not fully explaining the true nature of Gandalf).

I totally agree that the first two movies could have spent more time expositioning some of the characters (like Jolt! Who the f*** is he?!?!), and it would be great to see more character exposition in the third movie... but to deliver a background story on each Transformer shown in the movie? Do you really care about the background story for Decepticon Warrior #T-1000 (the one who had his head blown off by NEST soldiers)? That would be like devoting an entire story for Stormtrooper TK-421 (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TK-421) ;)

[Tommy K]

That would be like devoting an entire story for Stormtrooper TK-421 (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TK-421) ;)

well wouldnt you like to know when he got out of the falcon, maybe he got out at yavin 4 with his mate and then were spies until the destruction of the second death star, turning to the light side then when thrawn came around they had the difficult decision of turning back, then after the second comming of the emperor they end up back with the empire, then they find out that some compelling twist that may or may not be true, blah blah blah, they both die. see the story about those guys summed up in 6 lines lol

[GoktimusPrime]

It's not that I don't want to know anything about these characters... it's just that I don't think you can possibly fit a detailed exposition for _every_ character in a movie without derailing it from its central plot. Imagine if say "More Than Meets The Eye" decided to delve into the whole background story for Sunstorm (and thus the Oracle, Vector Sigma, Quintessons.. possibly Primus etc.), who was at the time, just a generic Decepticon Seeker. That would distract from the main story of telling the audience about how the Transformers would leave Cybertron and come to Earth etc.

[Tommy K]

yeah the show bleach does it all the time, you would 1 episode of the sotry then 2 of the past of some "Death-God" (watch the show lol).even though there is over 300 episodes of the show, i fiinished watching after hitting 50, it was just becoming too much of a chore for me to sit and watch so many minutes for a major twist theat comes after the characters life story

[GoktimusPrime]

You're comparing a series with a movie, which doesn't work simply because a series obviously has more time to expand and explain more things in greater detail, whether it be a comic book series or TV series. A movie on the other hand is restricted to telling a story within a much more limited time frame (e.g. 2 hours) where you need to focus on the more essential parts of the story. That's why many movies end up with deleted scenes.

[SuspectimusPrime]

That would be like devoting an entire story for Stormtrooper TK-421 (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TK-421) ;)

Stormtrooper TK-421 is one amazing man. Wise and brave.. Holy, even. I think there are valuable lessens that could be gained by all who have the will to believe in Stormtrooper TK-421.

In fact, I have reasons to believe that he was not simply a man, but a God or at least a deity in human form.

There really should be a bible (if not numerous bibles, temples, churches and mosques) devoted to His Divine Holy Lordship, Stormtrooper TK-421.. 0_o

[GoktimusPrime]

Stormtrooper TK-421 is one amazing man. Wise and brave.. Holy, even. I think there are valuable lessens that could be gained by all who have the will to believe in Stormtrooper TK-421.

In fact, I have reasons to believe that he was not simply a man, but a God or at least a deity in human form.

There really should be a bible (if not numerous bibles, temples, churches and mosques) devoted to His Divine Holy Lordship, Stormtrooper TK-421.. 0_o
That's pretty much the story behind Sunstorm! :D

The dude started off as nothing more than a random generic yellow Decepticon jet in the first episode of the G1 cartoon (as you can see here (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/d/d8/Sunstorm_Cartoon.jpg)). And for 19 years nobody gave a flying Rattrap's tail about him. People cared about Hauler, at least Hauler had a name. Sunstorm was a nameless mook and we all know that nameless gumbies are highly disposable! ;)

"Do you know who I am? Have you got any idea how many anonymous henchmen I've killed over the years? I mean, look at you. You don't even have a name tag. You've got no chance. Why don't you just fall down?" - Nigel Powers (Austin Powers In Goldmember)

But then in 2003 we got Sunstorm as a toy. I got this toy but not because I cared about Sunstorm but because I wanted Hauler! (http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/uscartoon/hauler.htm) Finally seeing a Hauler toy was a dream come true for me. I couldn't care less for Sunstorm, but of course Hauler and Sunstorm were sold as a set so I ended up getting him. And of course since Sunstorm's been retconned as a demi-godlike character (as you can see here (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/5/5c/Atonement-SunstormJAccuse.jpg))... I can't think of any other Transformer that walks around exuding energy all over his body, not even The Fallen (he's just on fire all the time :p). Primus-possessed Emirate Xaaron (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/2/2c/Xaaronpossessed.jpg) comes close, but that's really because Xaaron was a vessel for a god so that doesn't really count. Sunstorm's energy aura is all him (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sunstorm_%28G1%29) baby. ;)

So now we have so many fans who totally worship Sunstorm. I've never seen a character born from such obscurity who's become so popular with fans! With growing demand HasTak has since given us more Sunstorm toys and merchandise which is always highly sought after!
e.g.:
+ Heroes of Cybertron Sunstorm
+ Pallisades statue Sunstorm
+ Titanium Series Sunstorm
+ Universe Sunstorm
+ Mini-Con Sunstorm
+ Cybertron Sunstorm
+ Animated Sunstorm (he even a recurring character with dialogue in the cartoon!!)
+ Reissue G1 Sunstorm!

There's no Animated Thrust or Dirge (in the show), but we have an Animated Sunstorm! That's kuh-razy! :D So come on Michael Bay... give us movie Sunstorm! ;)