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SGB
5th September 2009, 04:25 PM
Not freakin' happy about this at all:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Interception-overhaul-may-OK-ISP-spying/0,130061791,339298318,00.htm

This country is really starting to become a craphole under Rudd. :mad:

1AZRAEL1
5th September 2009, 05:05 PM
And we all thought he was going to be better than Howard...

fatbot
5th September 2009, 05:54 PM
And we all thought he was going to be better than Howard...

Hah! KRudds' best mates are chinese, a country well known for spying on and having nearly no rights for their own people, and your Surprised? Howard was many things, but at least he didn't activly enforce his moralistic views by deception, he was always upfront about his morals and relised that the majority of australians didn't share them.

Burn
5th September 2009, 06:52 PM
But didn't these new internet laws start with Howard? Or he at least laid the groundwork for them?

I seem to recall them looking into this sort of thing long before Rudd and Co. took over.

Back onto the main topic, can someone clear this up for me?


it is illegal under most circumstances to intercept inbound communications before it has reached its intended recipient with the offence punishable by up to two years' imprisonment.

A)- Define "inbound communications". All data transfers or just e-mails?
B)- If someone e-mails me porn, my ISP already has the right to go sniffing through my e-mails as long as it's delivered?

I don't see Australia Post sniffing through my brown paper wrapped packages I get from the ACT ...

fatbot
5th September 2009, 09:00 PM
The new laws probably did start with Howard, he had that mentality, but Howard was always upfront about it. He never tried to sneak things though. Love him or loathe, at least he had the balls to front the Australian people and tell them, "This is what i'm going to do."

MV75
5th September 2009, 09:02 PM
Care to seperate email and "data" You can't, it's all data, you can seperate it once you get it, but you have to get all data to seperate it. Hope that made sense.

And from what I understand, since the filter was a flop, they'll be making it legal for isps to intercept data and put the work load onto them to do the police's and corporates (riaa, etc), job.

I think I'll get an abn and setup an isp then go and sit outside parlimant house and legally intercept their data.....

Robzy
5th September 2009, 09:07 PM
The new laws probably did start with Howard, he had that mentality, but Howard was always upfront about it. He never tried to sneak things though. Love him or loathe, at least he had the balls to front the Australian people and tell them, "This is what i'm going to do."

Yeah... like the time he said Australia will "never ever" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixn9fFatdcs) have a GST! :rolleyes:

SGB
5th September 2009, 09:10 PM
And from what I understand, since the filter was a flop
The filter hasn't 'flopped' yet. We'll find out this month if they are still going ahead with it.


EDIT: EFA's submission to the AG about the proposed TIA Amendments:

http://www.efa.org.au/2009/08/07/tiaa_submission/

Lint
5th September 2009, 10:52 PM
Not freakin' happy about this at all:

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Interception-overhaul-may-OK-ISP-spying/0,130061791,339298318,00.htm

This country is really starting to become a craphole under Rudd. :mad:

Not happy either. However don't blame the useless politicians, blame the lobby thats pushing and the people who are supporting this stupid idea

Saintly
5th September 2009, 11:15 PM
no biggie, just move to another country that isn't spying on their inhabitants ;)

SilverDragon
7th September 2009, 08:59 PM
I knew the Ruddbot liked China, but I didn't think he liked it this much.

SGB
30th September 2009, 08:57 PM
Update:

Threats to privacy in proposed new intercept rules averted, says EFA (http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28079/127/)

Looks like that's a bullet dodged.