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canofwhoopass_87
7th September 2009, 11:39 PM
This in depth guide for spotting differences between originals and these high quality KO's should prove extremely useful for many of us

http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/17

Purely for the sake of knowing, but here's what I've seen and confirmed so far for accurate/higher quality G1 knock offs

Sunstreaker
Red Alert
Sideswipe
Triple Changer Springer
Triple Changer Octane
Shockwave
Superion Giftset
Devastator Giftset
Dinobot Grimlock
Dinobot Sludge
Dinobot Slag
Dinobot Swoop
Dinobot Snarl
Sharkticon Gnaw
Cyclonus
Scourge
Reflector
Optimus Prime
Wheeljack
Red Diaclone Mirage + 84 blue / white mirage
Insecticons Kickback
Insecticons Bombshell
Insecticons Shrapnel
Minibot Bumblebee
Minibot Hupcup
Minibot Red Cliffjumper
Minibot Yellow Cliffjumper
Minibot Warpath
Minibot Seaspray
Minibot Cosmos
Minibot Powerglide
Minibot Beachcomber
Minibot Brawn
Minibot Outback
Laserbeak with Frenzy
Buzzsaw with Rumble
Ravage with Rumble

Please feel free to add to the list if you know or hear of anymore.

fatbot
10th September 2009, 11:12 AM
this is a good site with some pics of KOs http://www.geocities.com/tfrework/knockoff.html

there's another site that's even better, but i'm buggered if i can remember what it is.

mknell
10th September 2009, 01:33 PM
I'm sure I've seen Metroplex KO as well

loophole
10th September 2009, 01:45 PM
I'm sure I've seen Metroplex KO as well

yep theres another one for the list :(

Trailer Park Ninja
11th September 2009, 11:19 PM
Here are some from the list on Ebay AU

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-Scourge-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406567163QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a0111c0fb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-Cyclonus-MISB_W0QQitemZ170381875586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item27ab8d1982&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-SPRINGER-MISB_W0QQitemZ170381874810QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item27ab8d167a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-OCTANE-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406564668QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a0111b73c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-SUPERION-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406558492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a01119f1c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-DEVASTAROR-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406558000QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a01119d30&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-Camera-Reflector-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406557525QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a01119b55&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-Shockwave-MISB_W0QQitemZ170381866488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item27ab8cf5f8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tansformers-Mirage-MISB_W0QQitemZ180406555316QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ac tion_Figures?hash=item2a011192b4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

blackoptimus
11th September 2009, 11:32 PM
I don't get it, these things are so high quality, why can't hasbro do something like that with shockwave, sunstreaker.... wheeljack??

kup
11th September 2009, 11:52 PM
Shockwave is understandable as the mold belongs to another company (radio shak). However why Hasbro doesn't or can't do the others has been a point of debate for a few years.

Edit: Wow! That Reflector is even trying to duplicate the white mail order box to fool people.

SOUNDBLASTER
12th September 2009, 10:45 AM
Ha ha DEVASTAROR... :D:D

blackoptimus
12th September 2009, 11:01 PM
Purely for the sake of knowing, but here's what I've seen and confirmed so far for accurate/higher quality G1 knock offs

Sunstreaker
Red Alert
Sideswipe
Triple Changer Springer
Triple Changer Octane
Shockwave
Superion Giftset
Devastator Giftset
Dinobot Grimlock
Dinobot Sludge
Dinobot Slag
Dinobot Swoop
Dinobot Snarl
Sharkticon Gnaw
Cyclonus
Scourge
Reflector
Optimus Prime
Wheeljack
Red Diaclone Mirage + 84 blue / white mirage
Insecticons Kickback
Insecticons Bombshell
Insecticons Shrapnel
Minibot Bumblebee
Minibot Hupcup
Minibot Red Cliffjumper
Minibot Yellow Cliffjumper
Minibot Warpath
Minibot Seaspray
Minibot Cosmos
Minibot Powerglide
Minibot Beachcomber
Minibot Brawn
Minibot Outback
Laserbeak with Frenzy
Buzzsaw with Rumble
Ravage with Rumble

Please feel free to add to the list if you know or hear of anymore.

Megatron was released in 2007, it's rare to get K.O of him now. (note: He was also available in black too, to mimic e-hobby black megatron)

liegeprime
12th September 2009, 11:09 PM
Edit: Wow! That Reflector is even trying to duplicate the white mail order box to fool people.

It even says in the instruction manual "made in Japan" when we all know its made in China:p

bruticus
18th September 2009, 08:45 PM
damn... i missed out on the mailaway MISB reflector (which was opened??:confused:) for only $60 posted!!!

But seriously, i feel sorry for all the G1 hunters out there trying to chase down parts to complete their collection. normal folk will have bugger all chance of telling if the weapons/accessories are real or not. especially when most ppl have never even owned the original parts!!!

sux to be a G1 hunter in todays market i suppose...

ITZTRU
22nd September 2009, 02:12 PM
Hmmm...I'm one of those who are hunting particular G1's :( I'll be sure to always post up and ask u guys first if they're legit. Coz I sure as hell couldn't tell the difference...!!

valkyrie_76
27th September 2009, 10:02 PM
sux to be a G1 hunter in todays market i suppose...

I agree with you on this !!

canofwhoopass_87
30th September 2009, 01:07 AM
Can anyone tell if this is a KO?

SOUNDBLASTER
30th September 2009, 01:36 PM
See the little stickers with the asian style writing on them .. I think thats the giveaway ..

I have one the same and I purchased it as a KO.. :cool:

llamatron
1st October 2009, 09:57 AM
Edit: Wow! That Reflector is even trying to duplicate the white mail order box to fool people.

This is something that I believe is almost a cultural misunderstanding. It would seem that the KO manufacturers are not trying to maliciously "fool" anyone but rather they are simply trying to recreate things as faithfully as possible. It's the dishonest sellers trying to pass them off as "genuine originals" who are doing the fooling.

Sky Shadow
1st October 2009, 10:39 AM
This is something that I believe is almost a cultural misunderstanding. It would seem that the KO manufacturers are not trying to maliciously "fool" anyone but rather they are simply trying to recreate things as faithfully as possible. It's the dishonest sellers trying to pass them off as "genuine originals" who are doing the fooling.

"Officer, this is just a cultural misunderstanding. We were just innocently trying to recreate these cigarettes (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/haul-of-9m-illegal-cigarettes-seized-in-customs-raid-14514759.html), this money (http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsworld.php?id=439307) and these medicines (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/19/content_12078890.htm) as faithfully as possible. We never imagined that anyone would actually try to fool anyone with them by pretending they were authentic." :confused:

llamatron
1st October 2009, 11:11 AM
Apples and oranges.

Cigarettes, money and medicines are in no way comparable to 20+ year old children's toys in terms of motivation for making them and the market that's buying them.

The manafacturers of KOs don't pretend that they are authentic... *some* sellers do.

sideswipes brother
1st October 2009, 01:24 PM
Apples and oranges.

Cigarettes, money and medicines are in no way comparable to 20+ year old children's toys in terms of motivation for making them and the market that's buying them.

The manafacturers of KOs don't pretend that they are authentic... *some* sellers do.

I agree. Its not the makers. I for one am really glad we have these KO's of rare TF's.:) Its the sellers who say they are legit who are the bad guys. :mad:

canofwhoopass_87
13th October 2009, 03:31 AM
This in depth guide for spotting differences between originals and these high quality KO's should prove extremely useful for many of us

http://highendtfs.com/?q=node/17

mknell
14th October 2009, 04:00 PM
Wow some of those fake sellers can be really rude, I bid on a loose Metroplex (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160366960309&ss PageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT) & won it without really paying much attention and not realising that the user had 0 feedback and was also the seller of these fake boxed items

Fake Scourge facing the wrong way lol (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-SCOURGE-MINT-IN-SEALED-BOX-ENCORE_W0QQitemZ160368859640QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba99f8&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

Fake Cyclonus (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-CYCLONUS-MINT-IN-SEALED-BOX-ENCORE_W0QQitemZ160368859642QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba99fa&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

Fake Mirage (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-MIRAGE-MINT-IN-SEALED-BOX-ENCORE_W0QQitemZ160368859647QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba99ff&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

Fake Swoop (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-DINOBOT-SWOOP-MINT-IN-SEALED-BOX-ENCORE_W0QQitemZ160368860547QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba9d83&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

And actually manages to have not 1 but 2 complete G1 Jetfire's

Jetfire 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-MINT-1980S-RARE-JETFIRE-100-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ160368859464QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA U_Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba9948&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)

Jetfire 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRANSFORMERS-G1-MINT-1980S-JETFIRE-100-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ160368859522QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA U_Action_Figures?hash=item2556ba9982&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14)


I mainly was asking about the fact that he has 0 feedback and was trying to gather if he was a legitimate seller & said I noticed his other items were fakes, and below is the reply I recieved

(excuse the language as I copied and pasted from my ebay messages)
what the f*ck,,, do you want to cancel the transaction?? if people
really think that there getting a transformer thats worth $4,000 for
a hundred then who's in the wrong??... im happy to repost and
who the f*ck are you
- renlabmelburn1

I have reported him to ebay & hope he gets banned, I'm guessing the reason he has 0 feedback is he keeps getting banned for selling fake TF's, just makes me sick to see people like that person doing so