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griffin
24th February 2008, 06:15 AM
Post here your thoughts on the tenth episode of Transformers Animated. If this screens in Australia any time soon, we will re-look at this topic.
*** SPOILERS ***

Episode Synopsis apparently from Cartoon Network website:
Episode 10: Sound & Fury
Sari's new toy musical robot seems to have an evil streak - and the ability to control other machines - but Bulkhead is the only one who sees it.

GoktimusPrime
24th February 2008, 11:23 AM
It was an okay episode.

Brief thoughts:

+ The human villain was riding something that looked like a My Little Pony (although it was a unicorn) and she was apparently waging a war of girls toys vs boys toys. A tribute to My Little Transformers perhaps? :p Definitely a tribute to My Little Pony, which is a girls' toyline made by Hasbro (Michael Bay also made a reference to this with the little girl who mistook Ironhide for the Tooth Fairy :p)

+ Soundwave's persona was actually more like Shockwave! - personalitywise he wasn't like Soundwave at all! Lots of visual tributes to Soundwave, especially the box that he came in and the leftover piece of him at the end. His ability to control other machines was cool and reminiscent of G1 Soundwave's command over the Decepticon cassettes, and of course, the voice. Otherwise he was a lot more like Shockwave!

I'm glad that Bulkhead was the hero at the end, but he's still sorely underdeveloped and still basically being portrayed as the clumsy brute... Bulkhead is more of a caricature than a character. :/

kup
24th February 2008, 12:48 PM
My thoughts:

The start of the episode is even lamer than the Angry Archer episode. Unfortunately it kind of shows the attitude that the writers have towards this series as its now frustratingly childish. It wasn't funny or anything of the sort, just frustrating. Did they actually think that having a little girl 'princess' supervillain riding a Unicorn 'My little Pony' was a good, sensible idea?

The plot overall wasn't bad but the childishness and execution of it brought it down considerably. I hated how it was another 'Sari uses her magic key and mayhem occurs!' sort of episode, its becoming very old now. Soundwave was created by the key from a toy music robot that Megatron designed.

I wont really go into much as much of the episode was very lame. Soundwave kept getting upgraded through successive 'key ignitions' by Sari and then he gained a mind of his own, spoke to Megatron and turned evil. He was defeated very easily by Bulkhead who only needed to punch him once. The saving graces were how Soundwave did show cunning and was able to manipulate drone robots making him threatening. However this side of Soundwave was shown briefly and as mentioned, he was defeated in the dumbest form possible.

I honestly don't see what people see in this, it was lame to the core. Cartoon G1 Soundwave was undoubtedly better and Comics G1 Soundwave is beyond comparison. This series is just substandard and from a passing enjoyment its now beginning to frustrate me with all its lameness.

There were many G1 tributes and one BW tribute but it did nothing for the plot and they were forced in and pointless.

The only good thing is that for once, Bulkhead did something smart in tricking Soundwave.

This series is begining to fall into the Unicron series sort of mediocrity, this episode was a GIANT let down and it is unlikely that the series will improve from this point on as it has already set the stage of what it is.
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Pulse
24th February 2008, 02:00 PM
This series is begining to fall into the Unicron series sort of mediocrity, this episode was a GIANT let down and it is unlikely that the series will improve from this point on as it has already set the stage of what it is.

Pretty harsh, don't cha think? I wouldn't call it that bad.

Comparing the character development of Soundwave this week to Blackarachnia last week, Blackarachnia's background was miles ahead. But eh, what are you gonna do?

Plenty of G1 throwbacks (voice, small alt mode, shoulder cannon, kremzeek etc.) made it better - reaching out to the oldies, ay.

Out of 10 - I'd give it a 6-7.

Hell, Adam loved it http://www.flickr.com/photos/revlimit/2286634506/

kup
24th February 2008, 02:17 PM
I am still not liking where this series is heading and its begining to frustrate me so I am thinking that I may just leave it be and stop watching it. This episode was the last straw for me and killed any hope I had for the series.

The little girl on the Pony was also too much.
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Robzy
24th February 2008, 04:00 PM
I have to agree – whoever came up with the 'Princess on the Pony' supervillain should be sacked! It was embarrassing!

I’m also sick to death of Sari and her 'magical key'. If it’s not a ridiculous plot point one week, it’s a deus ex machina the next! :mad:

On the plus side – it’s great to finally see one of my absolute favourite characters – Soundwave – back in Transformers. He was great! Not the same as G1 Soundwave, but cool regardless. I also enjoyed Bulkhead being a hero finally. I just wish the writers would write more episodes centred around Prowl!

I also enjoyed the references to Kremzeek, and Daniel at the party! :)

MV75
24th February 2008, 04:25 PM
Good episode.

Bulkhead is showing that he seems to be the only one really keeping tabs on the key and it's use, and realises that it's constant use is actually creating more trouble for everyone than any good it may do.

He's also successful at being the comic relief too. I don't see him as just being in that one role, he's more aware than people give him credit for. Also he seems to be the only one that megatron has any interest in as being any sort of threat due to his strength.
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Gutsman Heavy
24th February 2008, 05:58 PM
I loved it. G1 references were nice and a cool take on Soundwave (even if he is similar to Comics Shockwave with the logic stuff, I consider it a plus, they could be buddies!) Lame human villains aside, its really powering along nicely IMO.

sifun
24th February 2008, 06:43 PM
so does soundwave have a spark?
Or is he just some mundane computer with some decent AI?

MV75
24th February 2008, 06:47 PM
One would think so after having the allspark key poked into him several times and then him becoming fully self aware and free from megatrons direct control.
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Tober
24th February 2008, 10:27 PM
Yep, like the Dinobots once they are affected by the key I think they are given sparks.

i_amtrunks
25th February 2008, 11:13 AM
Decent episode, the lame supervillian was amusing, mainly because of how terrible it was, but still amusing. I think the whole purpose of the supervillian was to show how Sari loves her music, or something.

Nice to have Bulkhead as the lead character, I was glad he was the lead, and Sarri's friend in this episode instead of Bumblebee, as Bumblebee irks me. It may have been another "villain of the week" style episode, but Megatron had this thought out fairly well, if the dopey Professor had have asked why Soundwave went mental, Megatron could simply state that he was unaware that Sarri would use the key on him. I was also hoping to see less use of the key after "along came a spider" last week, especially since Sarri promised to limit it's use.

Soundwave was good, the voice well done, and fusing him with Marvel Shockwave was a nice touch as well, it kind of suits a "new born" robot who has gained sentience on a human dominated planet to think that way. Having him fuse with all the smaller robots was also interesting, although I hope he gets his car body back as a full time upgrade soon.

GoktimusPrime
25th February 2008, 12:51 PM
The thing I appreciate with Soundwave and Blackarachnia is that these are villains whose appearances will clearly contribute to the ongoing development of the series. The Dinobots and Soundwave's appearances are significant in terms of demonstrating Megatron's continual efforts to rebuild himself. Yeah okay, it's really an excuse to advertise the toys, but I think it's been written well as they're all working toward the plot conclusion of Megatron's new body.

Each of these characters have the potential to return if the writers wanted to - particularly Blackarachnia. Soundwave is a possibility since they did show a part of Soundwave that remained (and looked like his G1 alt mode!) - and the red glow suggesting that that component is sentient (so it is arguably his core processor or something).

I would like to see the Dinobots evolve into proper Autobots - and not retardabots like in the G1 cartoon (especially post season 2) but more like how they were portrayed in the G1 comics; as berserkers - and very much in the classical sense of a berserker from Norse mythology, or Beorn from The Hobbit. Like Beorn, the Dinobots are quick to anger and insanely powerful/nigh-unstoppable in battle, but they are also very kind and caring to their allies and not complete imbeciles either (Beorn is reasonably intelligent, as are the G1 comic Dinobots, especially Grimlock).

And I'd like to see them evolve through some means other than Sari's key. That's getting old. Perhaps the Dinobots could've evolved on their own, just as Soundwave did (Megatron never designed or intended for him to became self-aware - he was only meant to be a remote slave-drone and future body for Megatron).

MV75
25th February 2008, 01:13 PM
I thought that he (soundwave), was an experiment on how they key could upgrade a bot to a given design. It worked, it ended up as the final plan, but it had a side effect that megatron didn't foresee, it gave a spark to the robot and allowed it to become self aware. All in all it seemed to be a success for megatron.

And yea, I never thought that megatron intended to personally use soundwave for his own body, I mean, when would megatron want to become a boombox/minivan with zero to none firepower?
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GoktimusPrime
25th February 2008, 10:57 PM
Beats being a helpless disembodied head! He makes the disembodied head of Straxus look good!

"Ha! Ha!" http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/b/b4/Straxushead.jpg/180px-Straxushead.jpg

STL
26th February 2008, 01:47 AM
*shrug*

I had a high degree of frustration with this episode. There were nice little moments with nods to G1 and BW but overall too many story elements felt incredibly dumbed down to make it interesting. That infamous villain at the start doesn't need me commenting much more than others here already have.

I was particularly fond of the Soundwave upgrades but what irked at me immeasurably was the key. Like Robzy, I've just about had it with the stupid thing. What they key did achieve in this episode was make me shrug at Soundwave's return. Sure I did like it was happening but it felt so cringeworthy.

I also agree with the sentiment that this is far more Shockwave than Soundwave but ultimately it didn't matter b/c a lot of enthusiasm I had for the good parts were rained on by all those annoying elements someone thought it was wise to throw in.

kup
26th February 2008, 09:29 AM
*shrug*

I had a high degree of frustration with this episode. There were nice little moments with nods to G1 and BW but overall too many story elements felt incredibly dumbed down to make it interesting. That infamous villain at the start doesn't need me commenting much more than others here already have.

I was particularly fond of the Soundwave upgrades but what irked at me immeasurably was the key. Like Robzy, I've just about had it with the stupid thing. What they key did achieve in this episode was make me shrug at Soundwave's return. Sure I did like it was happening but it felt so cringeworthy.

I also agree with the sentiment that this is far more Shockwave than Soundwave but ultimately it didn't matter b/c a lot of enthusiasm I had for the good parts were rained on by all those annoying elements someone thought it was wise to throw in.

I agree and that is the primary issue that I have with this episode but for me its also the overall series. The 'cringeworthy' moments are way too common and last way too long hampering my enjoyment of any promising elements that the plot may have.

The core plot of a disembodied Megatron scheming to regain a new body and hamper the Autobots is brilliant storytelling in concept and an excellent twist since Megatron in the past has always been depicted as ever powerful, never vulnerable. However the ever intrusive and time consuming overly 'silly' elements and settings (slumberparty, trickortreating, birthday party, pony princess, absurdly dumb professor, etc, etc) ruin what otherwise would be an excellent plot premise and before long the cringe moments begin to outweigh the good moments making an episode frustrating to watch.

After 10 episodes the tone and mood of the series has been set and it is very unlikely to come away from it and sadly this is not to my taste. This is the first Transformers series that I have found so frustratingly annoying to watch that I am quiting watching it altogether, not even Armada and its dumb Pokamon plot managed that, so this is a first.
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The_Damned
26th February 2008, 10:06 AM
yea i liked this ep, does anyone have any pics of what the soundwave toy is if there is one?

Tober
26th February 2008, 10:21 AM
Yep (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/events/Toy-Fair-2008/Official-Hasbro-Images/TRANSFORMERS/ANIMATED/Animated+deluxe+scale/).

Down the bottom with Laserbeak.

Paulbot
28th February 2008, 05:24 PM
Guys, I've moved the general discussion of Animated pros and cons to the Animated General Discussion thread

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=601