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SofaMan
2nd October 2009, 11:48 AM
And yes, Bay is still in charge. :(

From IMDb:



Filmmaker Michael Bay has bumped up the release of the second Transformers sequel - it will hit movie theatres in 2011, a year earlier than planned.

Bay has announced that a script for Transformers 3 is complete and Megan Fox, Shia Labeouf and their robot pals will be returning to the big screen sooner than fans had anticipated.

In a post on his website, which features a countdown to the new release date, the director writes, "Well it's official: We have a great Transformers 3 story. The release date is now July 1st 2011. Not 2012.

"Today is Day One. Currently I'm flying with writer Ehren Kruger to Rhode Island to talk to Hasbro about new characters."

Bay's post includes a cheeky swipe at Fox, who he clashed with over his filmmaking methods while shooting the last installment.

He adds, "P.S. Megan Fox, welcome back. I promise no alien robots will harm you in any way during the production of this motion picture.

"Please consult your physician when working under my direction because some side effects can occur, such as mild dizziness, intense nausea, suicidal tendencies, depression, minor chest hair growth, random internal hemorrhaging and inability to sleep.

"As some directors may be hazardous to your health, please consult your doctor to determine if this is right for you."

Both Bay and Fox will be hoping filming on Transformers 3 will be a lot less dramatic than the other two blockbusters - after the actress called her director "hopelessly awkward" during a 2009 interview, the crew of Transformers 2 lashed out at Fox in a collective message.

They wrote that the actress was "about as ungracious a person as you can ever fathom," adding, "She shows little interest in the crew members around her. We work to make her look good in every way, but she's absolutely never appreciative of anyone's hard work."

Lord_Zed
2nd October 2009, 12:12 PM
Commence 2 (possibly justified) years of Transfans whining…… NOW! :(

Kyle
2nd October 2009, 12:57 PM
ROTF was a crap movie but I enjoyed it. I choose to be positive. :D

Scattershot
2nd October 2009, 01:31 PM
After the last abortion im not even the tiniest bit excited about this news. It's more of a case of what's he gonna screw up now?

FFN
2nd October 2009, 04:51 PM
Bay has announced that a script for Transformers 3 is complete He didn't say the script was complete at all. Hence "Day 1".

kup
2nd October 2009, 04:53 PM
He probably wrote the script on a napkin while he was waiting for his lunch.

Towers_Spy
2nd October 2009, 05:03 PM
He probably wrote the script on a napkin while he was waiting for his lunch.

I can so picture that!

*michael bay writing* Transformers 3, by me!

scene 1: boring hyooman stuff
scene 2: more hyooman stuff
scene 4: ooh ooh! big fight with big robots and explosions and stuff!
scene 5: more explosions and giggly body parts (remember to memo megan)

Teh end!

G1Optimal
2nd October 2009, 05:49 PM
I can so picture that!

*michael bay writing* Transformers 3, by me!

scene 1: boring hyooman stuff
scene 2: more hyooman stuff
scene 4: ooh ooh! big fight with big robots and explosions and stuff!
scene 5: more explosions and giggly body parts (remember to memo megan)

Teh end!

I'm guessing a Actors strike, is going to hit between scenes 2 and 4 ...:D:p

Anyway hope, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are back as writers.;)

Autocon
2nd October 2009, 06:28 PM
preys for better film then number 2!!! please please please!!

GoktimusPrime
2nd October 2009, 06:50 PM
Don't blame Bay for the script - that's Orci and Kurtzman's department. Hopefully he won't _mess_ with the script as much as he did with ROTF. As Ben Yee said, Bay's not a bad director for Transformers, but he really should just stick to his job as a director and let the writers do the writing.

Trailer Park Ninja
2nd October 2009, 08:30 PM
Great, can't wait until the next Muppet Show movie, oops, sorry I meant to say Transformers movie. :rolleyes:

Robzy
2nd October 2009, 09:24 PM
Great... well, the important part has been worked out - the release date... nevermind about that silly little pointless thing called a script! :rolleyes:


This is terrible news...

When will this pain end? I couldn't be less excited about a TF movie if I tried... and I'm a fan!


Don't blame Bay for the script - that's Orci and Kurtzman's department. Hopefully he won't _mess_ with the script as much as he did with ROTF. As Ben Yee said, Bay's not a bad director for Transformers, but he really should just stick to his job as a director and let the writers do the writing.
Well, that's kinda the point tho isn't it... I mean, on one hand you say don't blame Bay for the script, but he's the director... his little "additions" (such as Devastator's balls, for example) were his idea. And, IMO, these additions were what really made ROTF one of the worst films ever made.

So... who are we supposed to blame?

ROTF was a classic example of everybody passing the buck when it came to blame. In the end, Bay is the director and the buck HAS to stop with him!!! If it's a great film - he must get accolades. If it's a crap film - he must get criticism!!

kup
2nd October 2009, 09:29 PM
Don't blame Bay for the script - that's Orci and Kurtzman's department. Hopefully he won't _mess_ with the script as much as he did with ROTF. As Ben Yee said, Bay's not a bad director for Transformers, but he really should just stick to his job as a director and let the writers do the writing.

Unfortunately Bay doesn't do that.

Lord_Zed
2nd October 2009, 11:44 PM
Great, can't wait until the next Muppet Show movie, oops, sorry I meant to say Transformers movie. :rolleyes:

Oiiiiii are you knocking the Muppets?

That's not cool, they've given us countless hours of well scripted entertainment, a veritable lost art by todays standards. :p

I certainly can't wait for the next Muppet Show movie, I hear that guy from "How I met your Mother" is scripting it. :D

But I'm getting way of topic, now back to getting upset about a movie that doesn't exsist yet.

optimus1
3rd October 2009, 08:41 AM
I'm just happy that they are actually doing Transformers on the big screen :)

Hopefully they can go more than a trilogy, maybe a prequel series??

GoktimusPrime
3rd October 2009, 08:43 AM
Robzy: I agree with what you say. As the director Bay is the leader and it is his Giri (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Burden_Hardest_to_Bear) to take responsibility for the film, for all its successes and failures.

However what I was addressing were comments like these:

He probably wrote the script on a napkin while he was waiting for his lunch.

*michael bay writing* Transformers 3, by me!

scene 1: boring hyooman stuff
scene 2: more hyooman stuff
scene 4: ooh ooh! big fight with big robots and explosions and stuff!
scene 5: more explosions and giggly body parts (remember to memo megan)

Teh end!
...which make it sound like people are solely crediting/blaming Bay for the script, which is inaccurate. Sure, Bay should take responsibility for the questionable modifications he made to the script (I sure hope Orci and Kurtzman never wrote about Jetfire farting a parachute :/), but I think it's inaccurate to state or imply that he actually _writes_ the scripts in the first place.

It's more like he looks at the script and thinks, "Now where I can insert more explosions and lewd jokes?" ;)


Anyway hope, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are back as writers.
They were on board as writers for the first two movies. I just hope that Bay steps back and tries not to modify their script too much. He didn't mess around with the script for TF1 as much as he did with ROTF, so he tones himself down like he did with the first movie I'd be satisfied.

G1Optimal
3rd October 2009, 03:15 PM
..........
They were on board as writers for the first two movies. I just hope that Bay steps back and tries not to modify their script too much. He didn't mess around with the script for TF1 as much as he did with ROTF, so he tones himself down like he did with the first movie I'd be satisfied.

Agree...;):)

SofaMan
4th October 2009, 01:20 AM
Great... well, the important part has been worked out - the release date... nevermind about that silly little pointless thing called a script! :rolleyes:

You reminded me of this gem -

What if George Lucas directed Lord of the Rings? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv4Potdpjhw)

The best bit (with relevance to this discussion) is between 1:20 and 1:45. Truthfully, the whole things is worth a look, and I'm actually a bit terrified at how many parallels there are between mock-Lucas (and real-Lucas too) and Bay.



When will this pain end? I couldn't be less excited about a TF movie if I tried... and I'm a fan!

Well, at least you can't be disappointed. :o

Robzy
5th October 2009, 12:26 AM
SofaMan... that was great! :D

kup
5th October 2009, 04:15 AM
Actually the writers have said that Bay demanded a lot of changes to the original script written which include much of what is wrong with ROTF.

Example: Orci and Kurtzman wrote to include Sunstreaker and Sideswipe but Bay wanted his own creations instead - The retard twins.

Roberto Orci pushed for G.B. Blackrock to be included in the movie while he was writing the script but Bay said that the character sounded too cartoony - Seriously WTF???

Bay had full reign on ROTF and it shows - It's more Michael Bay than Transformers. In the first movie you still see the Bay factor in it but you also see more restrain and a bit of a Speilbergesque influence which is completely lacking from ROTF.

Deceptic_Optic
5th October 2009, 06:02 AM
He probably wrote the script on a napkin while he was waiting for his lunch.

or when he was in the loo?:p

Lint
5th October 2009, 10:51 AM
Bay had full reign on ROTF and it shows - It's more Michael Bay than Transformers. In the first movie you still see the Bay factor in it but you also see more restrain and a bit of a Speilbergesque influence which is completely lacking from ROTF.

Not that I approve of the max bay factor but I don't see a speilbergesque influence as a great improvement.

Heres hoping they stop at III :rolleyes:

kup
5th October 2009, 01:45 PM
It's been confirmed by Orci that he and Kurtzman are not coming back to TF3 - Here is a hint to why:




i know in the creative process, especially with someone as strongheaded as mr bay, there were things you were came to blows with scriptwise. im hoping ehren fights valiantly for making the humor a bit less crude, one of the oddest things about revenge of the fallen were how many parents I heard wouldnt take their children to see it.



I can't blame them.

GoktimusPrime
5th October 2009, 02:01 PM
Even if Orci and Kurtzman don't write TF3 it doesn't mean that Bay will. They'll probably get new writers to replace them; and I don't think any new writer(s) should be judged till we see the next movie. Then of course, it still boils down to how much Bay will tamper with the script. Directors and actors deviating from the script isn't necessarily a bad thing... but history has shown that with Bay it's often not a good thing and it's probably best if he didn't. :/

kup
5th October 2009, 04:04 PM
Even if Orci and Kurtzman don't write TF3 it doesn't mean that Bay will. They'll probably get new writers to replace them; and I don't think any new writer(s) should be judged till we see the next movie. Then of course, it still boils down to how much Bay will tamper with the script. Directors and actors deviating from the script isn't necessarily a bad thing... but history has shown that with Bay it's often not a good thing and it's probably best if he didn't. :/

Unfortunately the writers are not allowed to write their own story, they have Bay on top of them dictating what he wants to see in the film. It's not as if the writers hand over the script for Bay to shoot, Bay is heavily involved in the writing process and influencing the script with his own stupid ideas.

Robzy
5th October 2009, 11:20 PM
Unfortunately the writers are not allowed to write their own story, they have Bay on top of them dictating what he wants to see in the film. It's not as if the writers hand over the script for Bay to shoot, Bay is heavily involved in the writing process and influencing the script with his own stupid ideas.Exactly!

Look how much control Bay had over the writers in the first 2 movies... and they were there from the start! Imagine what it will be like for the *new* writer(s) who come in... Bay will feel like he has even more power cos he's "been here since Day 1".

As far as he's concerned, Bay owns Transformers! :rolleyes: