Government to censor the Internet

[AJ_Prime]

Looks like everyone will be paying money for annual subscriptions to VPNs rather than the lame-ass version of Netflix we have here, or worst still, Foxtel.

Been doing some research tonight since I heard about that court case and it seems for about $50 a year you can install VPN software that hides your IP and encrypts the data you download so that it can't be detected by our government or anyone else who decides to go into the torrent sites and attempt to detect which IPs are file sharing copyrighted content.

I suspect that IInet will appeal the decision. Perhaps it's time our government stepped in addressed the real reasons why Australians download so much copyrighted content compared to other countries in the world...

[theshape]

https://www.iinet.net.au/about/mediacentre/releases/2015-04-07-iinet-fights-for-customers-rights-v-dallas-buyers-club.html

Funny how the foxtel run news sites don't show that iinet are seeing this as a victory. The main concern was the bullying speculative invoicing practices to average people.

[5FDP]

https://www.iinet.net.au/about/mediacentre/releases/2015-04-07-iinet-fights-for-customers-rights-v-dallas-buyers-club.html

Funny how the foxtel run news sites don't show that iinet are seeing this as a victory. The main concern was the bullying speculative invoicing practices to average people.

Very true. Reading through the 'fine print' which is in one of the articles that news.com.au is running also explains that only those that 'seeded' the movie i.e. making it available for others to download, may receive a letter which may or may not outline compensation to the studio which you may or may not have to pay :rolleyes:

It goes on to say that "They can’t detect downloaders so if I downloaded it but never shared it I wouldn’t be concerned about it”. This completely contradicts the headline that they are running - "IT’S PAYBACK TIME: How much will you pay for downloads?" Either, they are misinformed about how torrenting works, or they are clearly engaging in click-bait articles with the aim to spread fear and propaganda. My guess is the later of the two which is why you can't believe everything you read ;)

[jazzcomp]

Maybe back to times with download limits. How will it impact other ISPs? I'd jump ship if I was an iiNet customer now.

[kup]

Our Internet infrastructures are so screwed up that even with stuff like Netflix, Stan, etc, we don't really have the proper bandwidth and even their contents are stunted due to monopolizing deals with Foxtel.

People pirate because it is the most effective way to enjoy movies and shows in this country. I don't want the whole Foxtel package for one show in which on top, I have to pay extra if I want some half baked HD content.

The problem is ultimately our weak backbone politicians who are only in it for themselves, not the nation. That's why they are so easily manipulated by big business as there are plenty of fatcat backs to scratch.

We need a revolution in this country, old school style..

[The_Damned]

At least the people who spent time and money producing the movies actually got some money out of it, from the rentals.
We all know that people would tape shows or copy Video Tapes/DVDs from other people or from rental places, but those were a fraction of the copies being made now... so at least before internet piracy, 1 or 2 copies were made from purchased copies, so more money per duplicate was going to the people who own the material. Now, there are thousands and millions of copies being made and shared from a purchased copy (and from hacked copies), meaning the owners get one sale per thousand-plus viewers instead of one sale per 2-3 viewers.



And that level of individual copying (and limited mass copying & sale of physical copies) is something that they don't care as much about because it involves a LOT more legal purchases per copy than digital downloads do. It's a bit like shoplifting - stores know that they will never completely stop it without spending more money than they'd save, so they take measures to prevent wholesale stealing by everyone, and then just factor in the small amount of losses into their prices.

After working with a number of people over the years who have been notorious free-loaders among their friends and relatives, I've never been a fan of free-loading. If there are options available to pay for something, I believe people should earn what they get... not get something as a handout or by actively avoiding to pay for it. That's like getting a $20 toy from a store for $1 by sticking a different barcode over, just because you think the big, nasty, soulless corporation makes too much money. But two wrongs don't make it right to justify it. We can survive without material possessions, so there is never a justification to avoid paying for something you don't need for your own survival.

I personally spend many many hours AND dollars running this site, so when I see people using it's resources for free without contributing anything in return (like interaction, info or sightings), it bugs me... but it would bug me more if this was a website that I was earning my living from, through subscription or advertising. It's the same with these music and TV/Movie producers, in that there are thousands of people behind the scenes involved in each project that are earning a living from it (just look at the list of credits at the end of a movie), but they only have a job if people pay for it. If too many people don't pay for it, then there are a lot of people on the production side that are out of a job, and since there is no face to the consequences to digital theft, people would rather focus on an associated mega-corporation that is tied to the project.

As a story writer, if I eventually have books published and people were downloading them without paying for it, I'd do the same as the "Dallas Buyers Club" movie producers... in that I'd be pursuing those people who are reading my books from unauthorised sources. And if the internet service providers have records of those people because they were the middle-men, it would be no different than asking the internet service providers to list who has been interacting on a paedophilia site.

:mad: /end rant. :o

that is all well and good....BUT if content was available in a timely fashion at a fair price piracy levels would plummet

[millhouse]

Looks like everyone will be paying money for annual subscriptions to VPNs rather than the lame-ass version of Netflix we have here, or worst still, Foxtel.

I think it's entirely unfair to criticise the selection of Netflix at launch based on the amount of pre-existing content deals in place. It's not like when it launched a streaming service in the US you could get Orange is the New Black or House of Cards - they hadn't been filmed yet!

Basically, what I'm saying is give it time.

Just my $0.02.

[SharkyMcShark]

Kup is right - about two thirds of the reason that I pirate things is because for what you pay the level of availability is absurd combined with point blank stupid regional licensing.

I've been rereading the Star War Expanded Universe books over the last few years. The first four books of the X-Wing series are available as individual downloads through Amazon Kindle. The next five? Only available if you purchase the full bundle of nine books.

All nineteen books in the New Jedi Order series? You can only purchase them digitally in this region in German.

Han Solo Trilogy? Definitely available digitally, just not in your region.

[5FDP]

Our Internet infrastructures are so screwed up that even with stuff like Netflix, Stan, etc, we don't really have the proper bandwidth and even their contents are stunted due to monopolizing deals with Foxtel.

Nailed it!

I don't even have the bandwidth to stream youtube during peak times :o Every streaming service is useless to me. I'm not paying $10 per month for something I can't use / watch. The benefit of torrents is that it downloads the whole show therefore there is no buffering. I'd rather wait several hours for a show to download than sit through constant buffering ;)

So what are my other choices - ask a friend who has the ability to duplicate / record shows to be my 'supplier'. Basically, what we were doing 20 years ago when people would swap VHS tapes with each other. I personally don't see the difference except for the fact it's much easier for me to download them myself.

Once Australia's internet capabilities are up-to-scratch with the rest of the developed world, then we might see some change.

[jazzcomp]

that is all well and good....BUT if content was available in a timely fashion at a fair price piracy levels would plummet
Then we'd have to debate on what is "fair price" since Australia is always shafted on price?

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I don't stream as well as buffering takes the fun out of watching.

Is streaming/video from internet sites also considered piracy? We have video downloaders that we use because of the buffering issue as well.

[Sinnertwin]

do i wait for the local retailers to stock it at the same price at the same time as the rest of the world, or do i buy online and have it delivered it straight to my door?

[jazzcomp]

do i wait for the local retailers to stock it at the same price at the same time as the rest of the world, or do i buy online and have it delivered it straight to my door?
I'm pretty sure buying stuff online isn't prevented yet till the government or big studios find a way of preventing it.

[DarkHyren]

I'm pretty sure buying stuff online isn't prevented yet till the government or big studios find a way of preventing it.And after that they can lock all our phones so that we can't call overseas.
Why do we need to talk to people in other countries, there are lots of people in this one we can talk to after all :rolleyes:

[Gutsman Heavy]

Sorry Murdoch I'll buy a vpn before I get foxtel.

Want my money? Chuck it on netflix or hope I like it enough to get the blu-ray.

[jazzcomp]

Abbott internet change :( (http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tech/blog/2015/6/its-all-over-for-illegal-downloaders-/)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Abbott internet change :( (http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tech/blog/2015/6/its-all-over-for-illegal-downloaders-/)

Yay, once again the Australian government has bowed to big business.

It's so nice to see that tax dollars are spent so that business can keep using their out dated and archaic models to choke dollars from aussies.

Sure, I can see why they made the move, but I suspect that if more people had access to legal ways of getting the shows sooner they would take them. Foxtel is BS with their subscription bizzo and charges, even then they seem to get stuff late.

Next step, making sure they slap gst on EVERY item that comes in the mail.

Oh and isn't youtube a streaming site?

[Gutsman Heavy]

fire up those vpns

[AJ_Prime]

Yep I was pretty disappointed to hear this bill got passed, it shows a complete lack of leadership within the opposition as well as complete ignorance of advice provided to the government on real solutions to tackling internet piracy within Australia. This draconian piece of legislation has not only proven to be ineffective in other countries in which it has been implemented, but it also has the complete opposite effect of what it's intention is.

Watch internet piracy grow even more in Australia now as the people vote with their pockets. Goodbye Foxtel and other crappy companies using outdated business models, and F U government for failing the people once again.

The VPN business is about to become even more lucrative thanks to the Australian Parliament. It's OK Mr Hockey, this is simply Australian's "going out there and having a go!".

[5FDP]

VPN's will be blocked too fellas. Download the internet while you still can!

[kup]

Yep I was pretty disappointed to hear this bill got passed, it shows a complete lack of leadership within the opposition as well as complete ignorance of advice provided to the government on real solutions to tackling internet piracy within Australia. This draconian piece of legislation has not only proven to be ineffective in other countries in which it has been implemented, but it also has the complete opposite effect of what it's intention is.

Watch internet piracy grow even more in Australia now as the people vote with their pockets. Goodbye Foxtel and other crappy companies using outdated business models, and F U government for failing the people once again.

The VPN business is about to become even more lucrative thanks to the Australian Parliament. It's OK Mr Hockey, this is simply Australian's "going out there and having a go!".

It's to please their lobbyist and backers. The motivation for this doesn't go beyond that.

Anyone who thinks Labor or Liberals are there for the people of Australia is in a delusion. They are in it for themselves.

[Skullcruncher]

I just want to know how everyone has all this free time to watch everything they download! :D

[kup]

I just want to know how everyone has all this free time to watch everything they download! :D

a) Don't have a family (your free time is your own)
b) Be one of those people who don't need much sleep.

[Skullcruncher]

a) Don't have a family (your free time is your own)


Even without a family I cant see how people have time for it all.

When I am on my death bed I am sure I will look back and say "I really wish I watched more Television" :p

[kup]

Even without a family I cant see how people have time for it all.

When I am on my death bed I am sure I will look back and say "I really wish I watched more Television" :p

My idea of a dream life is to go overseas exploring for 3 months per year. I would then spend the remaining 9 months not working (except on my own projects) and just bum around all day long watching TV/Movies and playing video games.

[Skullcruncher]

I would then spend the remaining 9 months not working (except on my own projects) and just bum around all day long watching TV/Movies and playing video games. At 16 that would be great but as an adult I find that really sad.

[kup]

At 16 that would be great but as an adult I find that really sad.

To each their own. I actually have similar thoughts when people start talking about their family and work as reasons why they can't do things they want to do. Sounds depressing.

Personally, if I didn't have to work every day, I know that I would be a much happier and creative person than I am now. I never understood the 'I don't know what I would do with my life if I don't work' types. If I didn't have to work, there would be a million things I could be doing.

Working 'for the man' and not having time to have the freedom to do as you want, to me that is sad.

[Skullcruncher]

To each their own. I actually have similar thoughts when people start talking about their family and work as reasons why they can't do things they want to do. Sounds depressing.

Personally, if I didn't have to work every day, I know that I would be a much happier and creative person than I am now. I never understood the 'I don't know what I would do with my life if I don't work' types. If I didn't have to work, there would be a million things I could be doing.

Working 'for the man' and not having time to have the freedom to do as you want, to me that is sad.

You've gone off on a total tangent, who said anything about working 'for the man'. Why didn't you become a creative type? No don't answer that. Lets get back to the topic before I write something that gets me banned.

[kurdt_the_goat]

To each their own. I actually have similar thoughts when people start talking about their family and work as reasons why they can't do things they want to do. Sounds depressing.

Personally, if I didn't have to work every day, I know that I would be a much happier and creative person than I am now. I never understood the 'I don't know what I would do with my life if I don't work' types. If I didn't have to work, there would be a million things I could be doing.

Working 'for the man' and not having time to have the freedom to do as you want, to me that is sad.

I think a lot of the time people end up complaining for the sake of it. I know personally i think 'oh i want more time to play games' etc, then i get time and can't be bothered anyway. It's all just adjusting and balancing; you do something so long that when circumstances change, it's always going to be jarring initially. We had a baby recently and while i can feel my gaming time slipping away (and being somewhat depressed at the thought), as time goes on and you start to weigh up the alternative scenario you find yourself in, you realise it's just different, not necessarily better or worse inherently. As long as you try and make the best of your situation, that's all you can really do.

I agree completely on your stance on work though. For me, personally my job started out as something i loved doing, and if i was doing it in my free time i'm sure i'd still love doing it. There are hints of love still, but most of it has been sucked dry by the very nature of it being a job. I'm a website designer (my post has some relevance to the thread see!) yet i feel my ability to be creative has also diminished - from years of torture doing the same basic websites for pretty much noone but deadbeat clients.

Then again it's just a job and i don't want to be in a heavy stress, truly creative environment either - it's bad enough as it is! You can't think too much about hating your job though. Probably all of us spend more time with work colleagues than loved ones...how messed up is that! But there's little you can do about it till much later in life. The only thing that drives me to work, is that the more i earn now, the sooner i can stop earning and just relax!

[Burn]

VPN's will be blocked too fellas. Download the internet while you still can!

I'd like to see them try that actually given that VPN's are used extensively for legitimate business use.

It's the only way I can access the work server from home, not to hide anything, but for security reasons.

[Trent]

To each their own. I actually have similar thoughts when people start talking about their family and work as reasons why they can't do things they want to do. Sounds depressing.

Personally, if I didn't have to work every day, I know that I would be a much happier and creative person than I am now. I never understood the 'I don't know what I would do with my life if I don't work' types. If I didn't have to work, there would be a million things I could be doing.

Working 'for the man' and not having time to have the freedom to do as you want, to me that is sad.

Why do you have to work everyday? You have no family to tie you down and depress you, so why slave for "The Man"?

Why not quit work, be free and happier doing a million things?

[The_Damned]

can anyone recommend a vpn?

[AJ_Prime]

This article (https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/) seems to give some good information about VPNs. The one's I researched that looked good (when the Dallas Buyers Club thing first started in the media) seemed to be PIA (Private Internet Access) and Torguard.

[kup]

You've gone off on a total tangent, who said anything about working 'for the man'. Why didn't you become a creative type? No don't answer that. Lets get back to the topic before I write something that gets me banned.

I think you took it too personally. We all work 'for the man' dude including me.


I think a lot of the time people end up complaining for the sake of it. I know personally i think 'oh i want more time to play games' etc, then i get time and can't be bothered anyway. It's all just adjusting and balancing; you do something so long that when circumstances change, it's always going to be jarring initially. We had a baby recently and while i can feel my gaming time slipping away (and being somewhat depressed at the thought), as time goes on and you start to weigh up the alternative scenario you find yourself in, you realise it's just different, not necessarily better or worse inherently. As long as you try and make the best of your situation, that's all you can really do.

I agree completely on your stance on work though. For me, personally my job started out as something i loved doing, and if i was doing it in my free time i'm sure i'd still love doing it. There are hints of love still, but most of it has been sucked dry by the very nature of it being a job. I'm a website designer (my post has some relevance to the thread see!) yet i feel my ability to be creative has also diminished - from years of torture doing the same basic websites for pretty much noone but deadbeat clients.

Then again it's just a job and i don't want to be in a heavy stress, truly creative environment either - it's bad enough as it is! You can't think too much about hating your job though. Probably all of us spend more time with work colleagues than loved ones...how messed up is that! But there's little you can do about it till much later in life. The only thing that drives me to work, is that the more i earn now, the sooner i can stop earning and just relax!

Yep, you understand. It's not about not being creative, it's about work and mandatory routines that society imposes that limits what we really want to do and fulfilling all we can be.



can anyone recommend a vpn?

Not sure if it would work for masking you for torrenting but it certainly works for making Netflix (Hulu, etc) think you are located in the US so you get superior content:

https://tvunblock.com/

[Skullcruncher]

I think you took it too personally. We all work 'for the man' dude including me.


No I don't work for 'the man' at all. If you are going on about general governance Australia really has it pretty sweet, unless you have an overt sense of entitlement - which many kids seem to have these days.


Yep, you understand. It's not about not being creative, it's about work and mandatory routines that society imposes that limits what we really want to do and fulfilling all we can be. A thats your problem, society is not limiting you or your expression, you are limiting yourself.

[Trent]

A thats your problem, society is not limiting you or your expression, you are limiting yourself.

QFT!

[Raider]

This article (https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/) seems to give some good information about VPNs. The one's I researched that looked good (when the Dallas Buyers Club thing first started in the media) seemed to be PIA (Private Internet Access) and Torguard.

I've heard good things about PIA before. I've been using FrootVPN as it was free but they are charging a nominal amount now. I have no complaints yet about FrootVPN. They were backed by TPB at one stage (not sure of the exact affiliation other than they were promoted by TPB) and everything was really easy and simple to set up.

Now to consider changing to PIA or staying with Froot... I'll prob stick with Froot just given that they have given me 6 months of VPN for free and they had really great connection speeds.

Back on the main topic... all I can say is that the current major political parties have me completely disenchanted with Australian politics to the point that I now have to consider which is the worse of the two to vote for instead of which is the best. Politics is meant to be about elected officials representing the people who have elected them on the basis that they will do both what they promise and act in the best interests of their constitutes. This does not happen at all anymore and every politician appears to look out for themselves and ensuring they keep hold of power. I don't remember the last time I heard a politician speak and I honestly believed what they said.

This whole argument about internet censorship (I'm using the term broadly), appears to be nothing more than politicians seeking to appease those who financially back them. I am yet to read anything that indicates that the current stance by both parties is honestly in the best interests of Australia as a nation and its citizens.

tl:dr... both major policitcal parties suck :p

[Trent]

I've heard good things about PIA before. I've been using FrootVPN as it was free but they are charging a nominal amount now. I have no complaints yet about FrootVPN. They were backed by TPB at one stage (not sure of the exact affiliation other than they were promoted by TPB) and everything was really easy and simple to set up.

Now to consider changing to PIA or staying with Froot... I'll prob stick with Froot just given that they have given me 6 months of VPN for free and they had really great connection speeds.

Back on the main topic... all I can say is that the current major political parties have me completely disenchanted with Australian politics to the point that I now have to consider which is the worse of the two to vote for instead of which is the best. Politics is meant to be about elected officials representing the people who have elected them on the basis that they will do both what they promise and act in the best interests of their constitutes. This does not happen at all anymore and every politician appears to look out for themselves and ensuring they keep hold of power. I don't remember the last time I heard a politician speak and I honestly believed what they said.

This whole argument about internet censorship (I'm using the term broadly), appears to be nothing more than politicians seeking to appease those who financially back them. I am yet to read anything that indicates that the current stance by both parties is honestly in the best interests of Australia as a nation and its citizens.

tl:dr... both major policitcal parties suck :p

Instead of voting for whichever of the 2 parties you dislike the least, how about voting for another party/independent entirely? Nothing will ever change if people only ever vote for the major 2. Give someone else a go. They can't do any worse.

[Raider]

Instead of voting for whichever of the 2 parties you dislike the least, how about voting for another party/independent entirely? Nothing will ever change if people only ever vote for the major 2. Give someone else a go. They can't do any worse.

Problem is that I am in a heavily Liberal area which will never change (well certainly not in the near future) and quite frankly most independents who run in my area have nothing substantial to add based upon what I've read about them prior to each election.

Australia is entrenched as a 2 party political system. Sure every now and again another party might hold a little power (Democrats back in the day and now Greens with a few independents) but realistically its the 2 majors that control everything.

Sorry don;t want to derail this thread into a rant about the state of Aussie politics, it's about internet censorship :p

[kup]

Instead of voting for whichever of the 2 parties you dislike the least, how about voting for another party/independent entirely? Nothing will ever change if people only ever vote for the major 2. Give someone else a go. They can't do any worse.

In a two party system, that has very little impact.

I don't like Liberals or Labour but if I vote for an independent party (which I actually do), then my vote goes on to preference one of the bigger parties or has no impact as Raider mentioned.

It's not about being proactive, it's being aware that the system gives people an illusion of choice when there actually isn't any.

[llamatron]

But you can make a difference in the senate, very much so.

[griffin]

But you can make a difference in the senate, very much so.

Senate, yes... unfortunately too much so while they are allowed vote-swapping, with people getting elected with just 0.2% of the people wanting them as Senators. Hardly a representation of the people that a Democracy is supposed to be.

As for the Lower house, as noted by Raider, there aren't any people or parties that have a substantial or reasonable range of policies that you'd want to have running the government.
Greens have a place as part of a government, but you wouldn't want them running the government with their more radical ideas and putting the brakes on Tasmania's growth when they were in power there as a State government.
Palmer could have been an alternative if he wasn't in politics to better his own business interests... and some of his crazy stunts and ideas would destroy the economy and country.
Democrats used to be an alternative, but lost their independent identity to voters when they got into bed with Labor in the 90s.
A lot of the independents are more reliable and ethical than the two major parties, but they aren't a party, nor do most want to start one... so until we get an organisation that has policies across all departments and a constitution that puts the people before personal financial interests, the majority of people feel trapped between the political tennis match of alternating between Labor and Liberal, with more people voting a party out than voting a party in now (we are more inclined to vote against things than show support for policies... which leaves us as a people with a leadership that we don't really trust, endorse or even want).

[Raider]

Senate, yes... unfortunately too much so while they are allowed vote-swapping, with people getting elected with just 0.2% of the people wanting them as Senators. Hardly a representation of the people that a Democracy is supposed to be.

As for the Lower house, as noted by Raider, there aren't any people or parties that have a substantial or reasonable range of policies that you'd want to have running the government.
Greens have a place as part of a government, but you wouldn't want them running the government with their more radical ideas and putting the brakes on Tasmania's growth when they were in power there as a State government.
Palmer could have been an alternative if he wasn't in politics to better his own business interests... and some of his crazy stunts and ideas would destroy the economy and country.
Democrats used to be an alternative, but lost their independent identity to voters when they got into bed with Labor in the 90s.
A lot of the independents are more reliable and ethical than the two major parties, but they aren't a party, nor do most want to start one... so until we get an organisation that has policies across all departments and a constitution that puts the people before personal financial interests, the majority of people feel trapped between the political tennis match of alternating between Labor and Liberal, with more people voting a party out than voting a party in now (we are more inclined to vote against things than show support for policies... which leaves us as a people with a leadership that we don't really trust, endorse or even want).

^ this +1

[5FDP]

Stumbled across this last night which I thought was interesting. Some of these countries are no-brainers, others were a bit of a surprise.


Enemies of the Internet:

Bahrain, Belarus, Burma, China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.

Countries Under Surveillance:

Australia, Egypt, Eritrea, France, India, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Russia, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, and United Arab Emirates.

Source (http://whatismyipaddress.com/vpn-comparison)

I made the leap into VPN's last week and settled on Private Internet Access. For the price, it's quite good. You get a robust VPN and a proxy to use with one program.

Like other VPN's, it tends to drop here and there so I would suggest setting a kill-switch using what ever firewall you have just for added security.

[1AZRAEL1]

Reviving old thread because of more news. Court decision today being made on this.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/piracy/federal-court-expected-to-hand-down-decision-on-blocking-illegal-torrent-and-streaming-sites-today/news-story/c1b0349a2cc6e3fb96007ddf04742efc

[Polursine]

"the same people that sell heroin"

AHAHAHAHAHAHA You hear that? We destroy lives and make a profit for ourselves selling dangerous material to kids.

Well, that being said, how can Hollywood execs buy their third wife their third house? hmmm

[DarkHyren]

lol, yeah good luck with that, they will also need to block all VPNs, online proxy services and a ton of legitimate torrenting services to even hope to curb piracy which will either end up bankrupting hollywood studios (yay) or slowing our internet back down to dial up speeds (boo).

Fact is that piracy is the only way us here in Australia can even get access to some things, but even if it wasnt why the hell should, for example, I pay $50 a month for pay tv just to watch a few episodes of a tv show?
Say I only watch Game of Thrones (which looking at what tv series are out atm is about all I would be watching), that means I'm paying $150 just to watch each season as it comes out, that is disgusting and completely unreasonable when the whole season will be only $40 when it comes out on dvd.
Sure, maybe pay tv or netflix is ok for those that are glued to the screen, but for those of us that only watch one or two programs it is a completely unreasonable cost, and a major reason for piracy of these programs

[Gutsman Heavy]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/461/Good_Luck_I_m_Behind_7_Proxies.jpg

[Trent]

lol, yeah good luck with that, they will also need to block all VPNs, online proxy services and a ton of legitimate torrenting services to even hope to curb piracy which will either end up bankrupting hollywood studios (yay) or slowing our internet back down to dial up speeds (boo).

Fact is that piracy is the only way us here in Australia can even get access to some things, but even if it wasnt why the hell should, for example, I pay $50 a month for pay tv just to watch a few episodes of a tv show?
Say I only watch Game of Thrones (which looking at what tv series are out atm is about all I would be watching), that means I'm paying $150 just to watch each season as it comes out, that is disgusting and completely unreasonable when the whole season will be only $40 when it comes out on dvd.
Sure, maybe pay tv or netflix is ok for those that are glued to the screen, but for those of us that only watch one or two programs it is a completely unreasonable cost, and a major reason for piracy of these programs

While I agree with the brunt of your post, you do know that Netflix costs like $12 a month. Quite reasonable in my opinion. And I don't get to watch it that often.

[DarkHyren]

While I agree with the brunt of your post, you do know that Netflix costs like $12 a month. Quite reasonable in my opinion. And I don't get to watch it that often.Haven't looked at netflix or pricing much so I was focusing more on the pay tv side of things then anything.
$12 bucks is more reasonable and after having a look you can also "Watch instantly or download for later"?
It it allows you to download a whole season at a time I'd be interested, as while I don't watch much, when I do I binge :p

[The_Damned]

you can download some show for on the go. most tv shows are whole season at once and a couple air weekly but everthing on their is stream on demand.

[SMHFConvoy]

The smallest Netflix package is 9.95 a month, worth it imo :)

That said, this is the Abbott/Turnbull govt we're dealing with, they probably think a firewall is something that goes around a barbecue...

[TAAUBlaster]

Does the Netflix "Download for later" work for watching on PC?

The biggest reason I haven't signed up to Netflix is because my internet is crap, and streaming just doesn't work. I can't even watch Youtube between 4-9pm as it is now (and that is when I would do most of my Netflix watching too.)

I didn't even realize they were offering a download service. If it applies to PC too, then I'll probably look at signing up in the new year!

[prjkt]

Does the Netflix "Download for later" work for watching on PC?

The biggest reason I haven't signed up to Netflix is because my internet is crap, and streaming just doesn't work. I can't even watch Youtube between 4-9pm as it is now (and that is when I would do most of my Netflix watching too.)

I didn't even realize they were offering a download service. If it applies to PC too, then I'll probably look at signing up in the new year!

Not yet it seems, so far just for the mobile apps, but might be supported in the Win10 app?

[SMHFConvoy]

Does the Netflix "Download for later" work for watching on PC?

The biggest reason I haven't signed up to Netflix is because my internet is crap, and streaming just doesn't work. I can't even watch Youtube between 4-9pm as it is now (and that is when I would do most of my Netflix watching too.)

I didn't even realize they were offering a download service. If it applies to PC too, then I'll probably look at signing up in the new year!

The download service is new, but I imagine it works like Google play, download the movie and you have 2 days to watch it before it expires.

If you're unsure just get a friend to login to their Netflix account from your PC and see if the download option is available.

[TAAUBlaster]

Not yet it seems, so far just for the mobile apps, but might be supported in the Win10 app?

Cool, thanks for the info. Still running Win7 here though:o


The download service is new, but I imagine it works like Google play, download the movie and you have 2 days to watch it before it expires.

If you're unsure just get a friend to login to their Netflix account from your PC and see if the download option is available.

All the friends that live near me are in the same boat. So none of them have a Netflix account :p But sounds like its still not really what I am looking for.

[DarkHyren]

Sigh, they've actually started this rubbish, the pirate bay is "blocked" in Australia now through a few major ISPs with more ISPs and torrent sites to follow soon.
I mean they still can't stop us using proxies or any of the many mirrored versions of TPB that exist (although they are going to the effort of blocking mirrors as well), but in my opinion this is the beginning of the end of aussie internet.
I can honestly see certain streaming websites being hit next just because some US company owns the rights to certain TV shows, despite the fact that a lot of things NEVER get released in Aus.
Next step, blocking everything the government doesnt want us to know, believe or think

[1AZRAEL1]

See, that's why I've been so pissed off about it. People think "oh no, that will never happen" but it eventually will. The nutcases backing some of the politicians wanted abortion, euthanasia, and satanic websites all blocked too. One day it will likely happen. As you say, this is just the start

[kup]

Eventually we will only be able to access Chinese propaganda sites.

[1AZRAEL1]

I don't dare laugh, because I fear that's where we are headed

[laproblematique]

Save us TPB, you're our only hope.

[Gutsman Heavy]

My preferred source has survived the purge. For now...

[Tober]

The Opera browser comes with a built in VPN.

http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2016/09/free-vpn-in-opera-browser-40/

That block on TPB just disappeared. :)


At this point, all BigTransformersTrev needs to win the next election is a policy to overturn this internet censorship.

[shockNwave]

See, that's why I've been so pissed off about it. People think "oh no, that will never happen" but it eventually will. The nutcases backing some of the politicians wanted abortion, euthanasia, and satanic websites all blocked too. One day it will likely happen. As you say, this is just the start

Will there also be a ban on Sun Tzu and Machiavelli websites?.....................Oh hang on, if that happened there would be an uproar from politicians as well as their corporate friends.;)

[BigTransformerTrev]

At this point, all BigTransformersTrev needs to win the next election is a policy to overturn this internet censorship.

Heh - yay! Someone reads my blog! (http://www.bigangrytrev.com/?p=227) :D

[1AZRAEL1]

Will there also be a ban on Sun Tzu and Machiavelli websites?.....................Oh hang on, if that happened there would be an uproar from politicians as well as their corporate friends.;)

They'd only censor what they don't agree with :p


Heh - yay! Someone reads my blog! (http://www.bigangrytrev.com/?p=227) :D

Wait, you have a blog? ;):p

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

This seems sort of relevant to the topic at hand: Data Retention Laws May Open Up Metadata Access To Civil Court Cases: Have Your Say (http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/12/data-retention-laws-may-open-up-metadata-access-to-civil-court-cases-have-your-say/).

[DarkHyren]

Honestly that's another thing that should never have been implemented, sure it could catch some predators, but in majority of cases all that keeping someones browsing history does is invade their privacy and allow the government to sell info to big business, whether that be for marketing or to allow hollywood types to sue mum & dad thousands of dollars just cause they downloaded Cars one time for little Timmy.
The fact that the government is trying to change it so that the data can be used in civil matters further proves what I've said, there is no legitimate reason that this data should be used for anything else then severe criminal matters like pedophilia, human trafficking, or terrorism.