Worst Toy Ever

[SilverDragon]

Being the 25th anniversary year, 2009 has been a time to reflect back on the greatness of the TF franchise.

But it is also a time to reflect on the moments when it sucked, and I want to find a moment of absolute suckage. As it is a toy-centric franchise, I figure said moment would be in the form of a toy.

So, what is the absolute worst Transformer toy ever? I'm not meaning stuff that you KNOW sucks, yet still enjoy it for some reason-I'm talking about toys which are so utterly, completely HORRIBLE that they have no redeeming features at all.

[liegeprime]

hmmm tough one there Silverdragon, I do have toys that fall into suck category but I bought because I do enjoy it for some strange reason....so it doesnt count by your meaning this would be a really bleeech of a toy, a real shelfwarmer, one that's high on the returned list, hmmmm

prolly Supreme BM Cheetor. Scale does not fit any... cant stand, no redeeming gimmicks, its just... big :rolleyes: useless big- I dont have the toy coz I find it fugly

[Vector Prime]

The entire range of RPM's?

[OrionPax]

The entire range of RPM's?

+1

IMO the underside 'robot mode' does not even serve as a redeeming gimmick

[dirge]

G1 Jetfire. I've never liked the toy at all. Just a personal thing.

[GoktimusPrime]

Cassie/Wolf.

A toy that is incredibly craptacular even when solely comparing it with other Transformer Animorphs. (-_-)

[Jetfire]

G1 Jetfire. I've never liked the toy at all. Just a personal thing.

:eek:

[ITZTRU]

G1 Jetfire. I've never liked the toy at all. Just a personal thing.


:eek:

Hahaha...love it.

[blackie]

G1 Jetfire. I've never liked the toy at all. Just a personal thing.

g1 dirge.... just cause :P

[kup]

The entire Armada line.

[Linthart]

g1 dirge.... just cause :P

atleast they didn't have to alter him in re-issues for safety laws and going el-cheapo on the chrome

[Autocon]

supreme devs. no robot modes, omit one constructicon, feels crap, more paint apps needed, cant stand up/hard to pose, yet lil legends can do it WTF!

[dirge]

:eek:

Don't worry, I like Skyfire and you look more like him than Jetfire.

<insert warm, fuzzy feeling here> ;)

[5FDP]

RPM's get my vote. Came up with the same idea when I was 8 using Matchbox cars.

[Blink90210]

Titanium Megatron (not the War Within one). Not sure it counts as a toy since it looked terrible, had no playability and wasn't marketed to kids. Yeah, worse toy ever.

[GoktimusPrime]

Everything Hasbro makes is marketed at kids, that's why their reissues (and MP Optimus Prime) are modified to comply with child safety laws. Takara markets their reissues, MPs etc. directly at older collectors hence they're exempt from child safety regulations.

RPMs are incredibly underwhelming, but I don't count them as action figures, which is what comes to my mind when I think of Transformers "toys." Just a personal thing. :)

[SofaMan]

I'm working hard here. It's always hard to think of a toy with no redeeming features at all. I'm cursed with finding some good in everything. :)

I'd have to say Refute, the stupid stupid minicon that came with ARM Hoist. Very lame and ugly toy, and utterly ridiculous name. He had the whole package of crap.

[heroic_decepticon]

Classics Galvatron really sucked a$$ to me. The thing kept falling apart during transformation...

[kup]

Classics Galvatron really sucked a$$ to me. The thing kept falling apart during transformation...

Yeah the cheap plastic didn't help either.

That toy was not originally meant to be a deluxe and it seems that in the process of shrinking him, they didn't take into account that simple deluxe joints don't fit the rest of the engineering which comprimises the transformation scheme.

His design also doesn't follow the same fairly consistent design and engineering style that you see in the rest of the deluxe Classics/Henkei line probably due to the reasons above.

[heroic_decepticon]

I think you are right. Some of the joints just didn't work and the transformation design is quite terrible. A real pity that the 'modern' rendition of Galvatron was so poorly done.

[Firestorm]

I'd say the worst Figure would be Cybertron Runnamuck, hated that figure more than i hated the armada version
ugly ugly head, lame cyber key gimmick (i call it the car crash mode) can barely move/pose him
hmm when i think a little harder i'm sure there were worse transformers than him but he's definatly right up there

[Bartrim]

For me the most underwhelming toy I've ever seen was G1 Broadside. Not only is he a brick he is also too small considering he is supposed to be an aircraft carrier.

[1AZRAEL1]

My pick, would have to be that Spec Ed Optimus that came in the black box. The stupid spinning gimmick makes him always want to spin around when he is moved. I've had to blue tack his back to hold him in place.

Also the Megatron that came out in the black box as well seemed really tacky to me, things on him want to keep popping off if I touch it, like the tank barrel cover and such. I should have left them in the boxes.

[snaketales]

My pick, would have to be that Spec Ed Optimus that came in the black box. The stupid spinning gimmick makes him always want to spin around when he is moved. I've had to blue tack his back to hold him in place.

If you pull the black tab on his back it should lock his torso into place so he stops spinning.

From tfwiki: Pressing the button "unlocks" the spinning mechanism; pull hard on the button, and you can lock the torso back into place.

[Lord_Zed]

I personaly would probaly vote Universe Ultra Silverbolt, as a recent example of a major fail, he and Galvatron should swap size classes.

That said All the toys mentioned, have at least one redeeming feature though, i.e Spinning top Prime, has that awesome rifle accssesorie so he's not a complete failure. Galvatron too for all his failings still had a nice G1 Galavatron head sculpt, I suppose that cursed Silverbolt does too. Devestator has his nomm nomm feature so they all seem to have one redeeming quality which to me keeps them form making absolute worst toy status.

So after thinking about it I think I'd have to go with the afforementioned Supreme Cheetor toy, he's big, ugly, exspenisve, and stupid what an amazing combo.

[GoktimusPrime]

Not only is he a brick he is also too small considering he is supposed to be an aircraft carrier.
Either that or his jet mode is freakin' HUGE. ;D

[kup]

Either that or his jet mode is freakin' HUGE. ;D

I always took it as a kind of spaceship - The cockpit area is where the bridge would be.

[heroic_decepticon]

I'm rather fond of Broadside myself, but agree that he is the epitome of a G1 brick if ever there were a good example.

If I had got Broadside as a kid, I would be very sorely disappointed I think.

[Tabias Prime]

my favourite worst toy ever would have to be Injector from the beast wars. the fuglyest transformer ever.I pity any child who got this shelf warmer for a present for christmas.They would feel so abused.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/Tabias_Prime/InjectorRobot.jpg

[Gutsman Heavy]

Injector is many kinds of awesome! its like H.R Giger had a go at designing a transformer.

[kup]

I havea fondness for Injector too.

[Sky Shadow]

my favourite worst toy ever would have to be Injector from the beast wars. the fuglyest transformer ever.I pity any child who got this shelf warmer for a present for christmas.They would feel so abused.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/Tabias_Prime/InjectorRobot.jpg

Aw - he's so beautiful. The thing about this thread is that no Transformer is going to be universally despised. Personally, I really like Cybertron/Galaxy Force Runamuck too.

For me, the worst toy ever would have to be something (or, indeed, everything) from both of the 2000-and-whatever movie lines.

[roller]

Hey i got Injector for christmas!!!


I actually like it, i dont know why people dont, hes evil, evil is ugly.

Plus the toy itself is better then some beast wars toys.

Worst tf toy? Alternators, specifically Jazz. They are so intricate, and my jazz's hood popped off and cant go back on.

Alternators are no fun to me

[kurdt_the_goat]

Jazz isn't even the worst Alternator (far from it to most of the population who can handle a simple bonnet fold :p ). Of my experience with them, the Optimus/Nemesis Prime is by far the worst - i hate his brick legs.. that said, his transforming engine is more fun and clever than the entire rest of the toy!

[GoktimusPrime]

IMO Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK) is the worst Alternators toy. I've always preferred Binaltech over Alternators, but even purely by Alternators standards Ravage is pretty poor. He has no rack and pinion steering and there's no engine under the bonnet.

I agree that Injector is a pretty craptacular toy. For months and months I would walk into toy stores and stare at this toy pegwarming in horror. But eventually I caved in and bought one! :p The Fuzors were pretty weird in general; I like the way Jhiaxus once described them as "Transformers Wuzzles." ;)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/sublimemindaz/wuzzle.jpg

[kup]

IMO Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK) is the worst Alternators toy. I've always preferred Binaltech over Alternators, but even purely by Alternators standards Ravage is pretty poor. He has no rack and pinion steering and there's no engine under the bonnet.

I agree that Injector is a pretty craptacular toy. For months and months I would walk into toy stores and stare at this toy pegwarming in horror. But eventually I caved in and bought one! :p The Fuzors were pretty weird in general; I like the way Jhiaxus once described them as "Transformers Wuzzles." ;)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/sublimemindaz/wuzzle.jpg

With the Fuzors, they should have stuck with mythological beasts instead of random stuff. The mythologica (or mythological like) Fuzors were the ones that worked the best such as Silverbolt.

[lcz128]

My pick, would have to be that Spec Ed Optimus that came in the black box. The stupid spinning gimmick makes him always want to spin around when he is moved. I've had to blue tack his back to hold him in place.

I actually like that toy once painted up - it's more of an action figure than a proper TF though... and to stop the spinning gimmick, pull that black tab backwards so that it clicks into place. Then he doesn't spin and poses GREAT! :D

[GoktimusPrime]

Sorry, which mythological creature is Silverbolt based on? I thought he was a fusion between an eagle and a wolf. I know that winged wolves are popular in fantasy art, but even then most of them appear to be images of a wolf with large bird wings sprouting from its back. Silverbolt isn't just a wolf with wings, his front legs are eagle legs and he also has an eagle's tail, not a wolf tail. Quickstrike was also a fairly well executed Fuzor toy, yet I know not of any mythological creatures which has the body of a scorpion and a cobra for a tail. It seems that Hasbro chose the two best Fuzor toys for the show; the others aren't as well designed IMO; that's not to say that they're all bad... I'm rather fond of Air Hammer. :)

The only Beast Wars/Machines Transformers I can think of who have beast modes specifically based on mythological creatures are:
+ Transmetal 2 Megatron (dragon)
+ Heinlad (tanuki)
+ Galvatron (dragon)
+ Battle Unicorn (unicorn)
+ Beast Changer (werewolf, dragon)

[heroic_decepticon]

IMO Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK) is the worst Alternators toy. I've always preferred Binaltech over Alternators, but even purely by Alternators standards Ravage is pretty poor. He has no rack and pinion steering and there's no engine under the bonnet.

Alt Ravage is the only ALT or BLT that transforms into something other than a robot - this in itself is all kinds of awesome. Hmmm... plus I can think of worse Alt/Blts than Ravage...

[MV75]

A toy that I ended up hating, classics galvatron. :(

But an aspect of a toy line would have to be the actual transformation of 99.9999% of the 2007+ movie toys. They all suck in their own ways. The only toy I can say I fully enjoy is ejector.

Dirge, if you don't like g1 jetfire, I'll give it an awesome home. I see it more as a robotech toy, probably because it is. :)

[Tommy K]

animated ratchet, it sucked BALLS! i cant believe i chose to buy that instead of watching star wars the clone wars, silly kuzzy, silly kuzzy indead

[Lord_Zed]

Sorry, which mythological creature is Silverbolt based on? I thought he was a fusion between an eagle and a wolf. I know that winged wolves are popular in fantasy art, but even then most of them appear to be images of a wolf with large bird wings sprouting from its back. Silverbolt isn't just a wolf with wings, his front legs are eagle legs and he also has an eagle's tail, not a wolf tail. Quickstrike was also a fairly well executed Fuzor toy, yet I know not of any mythological creatures which has the body of a scorpion and a cobra for a tail. It seems that Hasbro chose the two best Fuzor toys for the show; the others aren't as well designed IMO; that's not to say that they're all bad... I'm rather fond of Air Hammer. :)


I agree that Fuzors would have been better if they were mythological beasts. While Silverbolt has little bit of griffin in him, he's a wolf not a lion, Flamefeather is a better Griffin. :D A modern mythical beast line would rock, all we ge these days are Dragons, A transformer basilisk, cockatrice, or manticore would rock.

I do kinda like Torca though, (but he is out of scale).




Alt Ravage is the only ALT or BLT that transforms into something other than a robot - this in itself is all kinds of awesome. Hmmm... plus I can think of worse Alt/Blts than Ravage...

I agree somewhat, at least ravage has front paws, much better than Rumble or mr no hands. The guy doesn't even have any elbows, he needs a helper monkeybot just to feed him energon.



Dirge, if you don't like g1 jetfire, I'll give it an awesome home. I see it more as a robotech toy, probably because it is. :)


I see it more of a Macross toy, but that's just me. :D

[dirge]

Dirge, if you don't like g1 jetfire, I'll give it an awesome home. I see it more as a robotech toy, probably because it is. :)

I didn't say I don't want it, just that I hate it. I have a pretty crappy condition one, simply so I can say I have it.

There are toys I dislike more (the Bumper Battlers are awful, as are the G2 Firecons), but I went with Jetfire because I personally dislike him and it's nice and controversial :)

[kup]

Sorry, which mythological creature is Silverbolt based on?

I did say "mythological like" :)

[roller]

i cant believe i chose to buy that instead of watching star wars the clone wars,

You didn't miss anything good, trust me

I can't believe i shelled out $13 to see that crap

[The_Damned]

g1 wheelie

[1orion2many]

The biggest dissappointment I had was Unicron, I saw pictures of the Japanese version and thought that is magnificent then what do they do, release the U.S one which doesn't even hold a candle to it BOOOOoooooo:p:D
and yes I consider it craptacular for that reason;)

[Prime_217]

ultimate bumblebee... he should have been called "lump of non posable car parts with retarded song snipets built in"

[canofwhoopass_87]

Don't have anything non G1, so my vote has to go to Broadside. Got this guy recently - extremely underwhelming compared to the behemoth that took on two decepticon combiner teams in the original animated series. Plus mines missing the damn blue canopy. I've noticed this is the case with heaps of loose broadsides out there on the market.

I was going to put my vote in with the damned for wheelie, but his car mode aint so bad :D

[kup]

Wheelie is bad mostly due to reputation than bad toy - However his robot mode isn't exactly great either.

[GoktimusPrime]

Wheelie is an underwhelming toy, even compared to other Autobot minicars.

HD: Alternator Ravage's feline mode is technically his robot mode. But I know what you mean by him having the only non-humanoid robot mode. :) But in spite of this I still consider him to be the most disappointing of the Alternators.



Dirge, if you don't like g1 jetfire, I'll give it an awesome home. I see it more as a robotech toy, probably because it is.

I see it more of a Macross toy, but that's just me.
Technically you're right Zed. That mould was originally released for Macross and _never_ by Harmony Gold for Robotech. One thing that has vexed Robotech fans is that they never released any transforming Veritech toys during the 1980s so some kids bought Jetfire to compensate (I know one guy who repainted his Jetfire into the colours of Skull-1; you know this person too Zed ;)).

[verboten82]

I'm rather fond of Broadside myself, but agree that he is the epitome of a G1 brick if ever there were a good example.

If I had got Broadside as a kid, I would be very sorely disappointed I think.

i just accquired broadside myself, while the robot is crap, the concept is very good one i believe and be further developed from the original robot to make it more poseable, as with octane, i would like to see hasbro further developing this guy.:cool:

oh by the way....... worst robot ever, TFA 2 Pack Megatron - Junk that transforms back into Junk

[Robzy]

I actually like G1 Jetfire myself too! Mine is in pretty good condition, and I've also got a few Macross versions... the VF-1S and the VF-1J being my favourites!

I love the Chunky Monkies! :D

[Tallestblue]

If you pull the black tab on his back it should lock his torso into place so he stops spinning.

From tfwiki: Pressing the button "unlocks" the spinning mechanism; pull hard on the button, and you can lock the torso back into place.

REALLY!!!? That redeems this ridiculous toy 100% to me! *merrily Plays with Classics two-pack Optimus Prime*

What..Toys we hated? Hmmm.....Beast Machines. I loved Beast Wars. So much. Then they went and stuffed it all up. I had purchased the Beast Machines toys before I ever saw the cartoon and enjoyed them, but after I wathced the cartoon, saw what they did I got rid of them. I could nop longer bear to look at Characters i loved being ruined like that. I hated that show so much I sold Transformers toys, something abominable to me!
Wait...that's more hating a show than toys isn't it? Damn.

[bruticus]

My pick, would have to be that Spec Ed Optimus that came in the black box. The stupid spinning gimmick makes him always want to spin around when he is moved. I've had to blue tack his back to hold him in place.

If you pull the black tab on his back it should lock his torso into place so he stops spinning.

From tfwiki: Pressing the button "unlocks" the spinning mechanism; pull hard on the button, and you can lock the torso back into place.

hes not that bad once you get to know him. As demonstrated here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=134579&postcount=966), he can do all sorts of poses and has a pretty cool tommy gun!!

[snaketales]

I was fiddling with my Legends figures yesterday and realised something... I actively dislike the Cybertron Soundwave figure, even the Legends version and the Blaster redeco.
I can never get the jet nose into what I deem to be acceptable shape. And It doesn't even look like Soundwave/Blaster, apart from the coloured chest piece.
The only redeeming feature for me is the little transformable dude.

[Jetfire]

I was fiddling with my Legends figures yesterday and realised something... I actively dislike the Cybertron Soundwave figure, even the Legends version and the Blaster redeco.
I can never get the jet nose into what I deem to be acceptable shape. And It doesn't even look like Soundwave/Blaster, apart from the coloured chest piece.
The only redeeming feature for me is the little transformable dude.

yep that Universe Blaster is one of my least favourite figures. I have a MISB one, but I flogged off a loose one on Ebay. Kind of looks like a psychadelic chicken and I'm not fan of robots with chicken legs.

Favourite Universe figure would probably be Onslaught.

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm surprised your favourite Classics/Universe toy isn't Jetfire. He's pretty awesome. :) I don't like any of the Universe toys that are just repaints of pre-existing moulds like Blaster. The only ones I have are Dirge and Roadbuster which I got out of "necessity" rather than "choice" (i.e.: I couldn't get BotCon or Gentei Dirge so I settled for Universe Dirge, and of course he comes w/ Roadbuster).


The only redeeming feature for me is the little transformable dude.
Suicide Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_12E1EN6fs) Laserbeak. :p

[5FDP]

My favourite Classics toy is definitely Jetfire. I like how he has the option of wearing the Macross helmet or without for a more accurate G1 inspired look.

He is the toy we should have received 25 years ago.

[Fungal Infection]

One thing that has vexed Robotech fans is that they never released any transforming Veritech toys during the 1980s so some kids bought Jetfire to compensate (I know one guy who repainted his Jetfire into the colours of Skull-1; you know this person too Zed ;)).

Technically you are wrong because they did release transforming veritech toys for Robotech - the Veritech Hovertank and Veritech Alpha Fighter, though these were from the Southern Cross and Mospeada parts of Robotech respectively rather than Macross part. Sucks to be anal doesn't it?

[i_amtrunks]

ultimate bumblebee... he should have been called "lump of non posable car parts with retarded song snipets built in"

Pretty good nomination there, pretty woeful transformer, and the price they asked for it was ridiculous too.

Same could be said for most of the Movie toys though.

[GoktimusPrime]

Technically you are wrong because they did release transforming veritech toys for Robotech - the Veritech Hovertank and Veritech Alpha Fighter, though these were from the Southern Cross and Mospeada parts of Robotech respectively rather than Macross part. Sucks to be anal doesn't it?
Not really. It was my own fault for not specifying the Macross Saga; I'd forgotten that the Hovertanks and fighters in the Southern Cross and New Generation (not MOSPEADA; that was the original animé's name but it was called "New Generation" when bastardisedadapted for Robotech) sagas were also called "Veritechs." It's 'cos I'm not a fan of Robotech, although I do like Macross (which I'm actually watching right now as I'm typing this) and I've seen Genesis Climber MOSPEADA and some of Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross. But considering that the discussion was in the context of Robotech I should have been more careful in using the term "Veritech." :)

[1AZRAEL1]

(i.e.: I couldn't get BotCon or Gentei Dirge so I settled for Universe Dirge, and of course he comes w/ Roadbuster).

If you didn't want Roadbuster, I can take him off your hands? :D

Oh and thanks heaps Snaketales for the info with the black tab, it makes the figure slightly more bearable :p Now I need to figure out a new hated figure haha

[Jetfire]

I have a loose TreadBolt and a MISB Classics Jetfire.. I do like this mold. But Onslaught is cool, I like his colours and S.W.A.T shield.


I'm surprised your favourite Classics/Universe toy isn't Jetfire. He's pretty awesome. :) I don't like any of the Universe toys that are just repaints of pre-existing moulds like Blaster. The only ones I have are Dirge and Roadbuster which I got out of "necessity" rather than "choice" (i.e.: I couldn't get BotCon or Gentei Dirge so I settled for Universe Dirge, and of course he comes w/ Roadbuster).


Suicide Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_12E1EN6fs) Laserbeak. :p

[Prime_217]

Pretty good nomination there, pretty woeful transformer, and the price they asked for it was ridiculous too.

Same could be said for most of the Movie toys though.
are you speaking of the price??? or the woeful-ness of the transformers? cos if you are speaking of the price i agree. of the woefulness i dissagree

[Lord_Zed]

are you speaking of the price??? or the woeful-ness of the transformers? cos if you are speaking of the price i agree. of the woefulness i dissagree

+1

That's the problem with these worst of threads, everyones worst toy is usualy someones favourte. Or vice versa.

Take the afforementioned Classics Jetfire. Loved by all, except me! While I wouldn't call it one of my worst TF's It's definately not a favourte of mine. Sure it's a tribute but the blend of F14/ Valkyrie and square nosed cartoon Jetfire just looks half arsed to me. Unaerodynamic and bulky I only like to display that toy in bot mode.

[Vector Sigma 13]

Worst toy in general- Stretch Armstrong (just popped into my head...):confused:

Worst Transformer in my opinion- uuuummmm -

cant think now , will reveal later...:rolleyes:

[Seraphim Prime]

worst Transformer toy of all time...

I'd probably say Supreme Cheetor, can't speak from personal experience as I didn't follow Beast Machines (didn't get into it, and probably would have left TFs were it not for RiD) but that toy failed on so many levels.

Probably characterised by the fact that I once went into one of the Toys R Us near where I live looking for Energon figures, and there were still one or two Supreme Cheetors sitting on the bottom shelf.

[GoktimusPrime]

That's the problem with these worst of threads, everyones worst toy is usualy someones favourte. Or vice versa.
I just browsed through everyone's nominations and G1 Broadside seems to have copped the most nominations more than any other!

Here's what I think of what people have nominated so far...

+ RPMs: If we're to include non-action figures, then yes, I would agree with this.
+ G1 Jetfire: disagree.
+ Cassie/Wolf: This was my nomination, so I absolutely think this is the worst TF ever!
+ G1 dirge: disagree.
+ entire Armada: disagree. There were some pretty crappy toys in Armada (I'm looking at you, Scavenger), but there were some pretty good ones too (e.g.: Air Defence Team Mini-Cons, Unicron etc.).
+ Combiner Class Devastator: Considering the original RRP for this toy... then yes, I would agree with this one. It's by far the worst ROTF toy.
+ Titanium Series "G.I. Joe" Megatron: It's the worst of the Titanium Series Transformers, and the Ti Series TFs are pretty scheissenhausen.
+ Refute: Worst of the Mini-Cons, but not the worst TF ever.
+ Universe Galvatron: Disagree. I don't think he's a great toy, but I don't think he's awful either.
+ CYB Runamuck: Okay, if you're gonna hate this base mould then you really should be nominating Armada Sideswipe. If you're buying Runamuck then you have to accept the flaws that come with the Sideswipe mould. So I can't really see what's wrong with this toy other than the fact that it's a retool/repaint of a crap mould in the first place. i.e.: what makes this toy any better or worse than Sideswipe? If anything, I think it looks better than Sideswipe. Can't stand the name though, but apparently Hasbro couldn't secure the rights for Runabout. Bleh.
+ G1 Broadside: Awww, poor Broadside. I can see how he would be the worst of the G1 Triple Changers... but he's not the worst G1 toy ever; he has better articulation than a Battlecharger or Throttlebot, isn't made from gold plastic and while his alt modes may be grossly out of scale with each other, at least they're clearly identifiable as what they're intended to be unlike some of the 1988 Pretenders. So I disagree with this one.
+ Ultimate Battle Optimus Prime (Special Edition): Again, what makes this toy worse than the original UB Optimus Prime? If anything the colours are an improvement and comes in a nicer box.
+ Ultimate Battle Megatron (Special Edition): see above.
+ Universe Silverbolt: I like the toy, but I hate the Universe colours (hence why I got the USA Edition one :))
+ Injector: He is indeed the worst Fuzor ever. Worst Beast Wars Transformer ever? I dunno... at least he has a robot mode (even if it is fugly) unlike the Mutant Beasts. That was a really WEIRD move from Hasbro.
+ Alternators (especially Jazz): While I think that Alternators suck compared to Binaltechs, I don't think they're the worst Transformers ever. And the Jazz mould is one I quite like. My least favourite is the Ravage XK mould.
+ Alternators Optimus/Nemesis Prime. Disagree. I don't think it's great, but I hate Ravage more. :)
+ Alternators Ravage (XK): My own nomination so obviously I'm in agreement with it. :p
+ Animated Ratchet: Disagree. Not a great toy, but not the worst TF ever.
+ G1 Wheelie: Haha, I agree that this is a dreadfully AWFUL toy. As I said before it's the worst of the G1 mini-bots.
+ Unicron: Wha?! No way!!
+ Ultimate Bumblebee: I've never seen this toy outside of its box IRL and I have interest too either. So I'm gonna agree.
+ Cybertron Soundwave/Universe Blaster: Hmmm... disagree.
+ Supreme Cheetor: Definitely the worst Beast Machines Transformer. Nightscream sucks hard too. As does Megatron. And Silverbolt... at least Cheetor looks like a cheetah... Silverbolt does NOT look like a condor. Although Silverbolt didn't cost you $100 either! And Silverbolt must've sold cos I had trouble finding him! Cheetor was a Supreme Shelfwarmer.

[langzixinxin]

Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!

Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??

[GoktimusPrime]

Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!
In general I agree with you, but tbh there are some instances where the Hasbro version is comparable or arguably better than the Japanese version, or in some cases excusable.

e.g.:

+ Some Beast Wars colour differences; e.g.: Blackarachnia, Tigatron, Transmetals etc.; Hasbro's versions were released _before_ the cartoon whereas the Japanese versions were done after, hence Takara had the luxury of painting some of their BW toys in more show-like colours. But it's not Hasbro's fault that their Tigatron (http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/TF/BeastWars/TigatronComp1a.jpg) isn't snow white like Takara's (http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/TF/BeastWars/JapTigatronWhite1a.jpg)... they can't be expected to see the future. What is less forgivable is the stupid cheap brown plastic Hasbro used on Transmetal Megatron. Grrr. :(

+ Masterpiece Starscream: Hasbro's version (http://homepage.mac.com/johnhood/Pictures/Blogger/masterpiece-starscream.jpg) featured more G1-accurate colours and was also made of better and more durable plastic compared to Takara's MP-3 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RC5PpUwFxEU/SdxrIYh8srI/AAAAAAAAANc/K4NVBEt6ZMs/s400/StarscreamTakara.jpg).

+ Universe/Henkei Cyclonus: I personally prefer the darker purple on Hasbro's (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VOpo0shz1qw/SV-aZ3Ly2qI/AAAAAAAAAEA/CXStBK8zu-g/s320/zob_tfu_cyclonus_robot.jpg) as opposed to the light purple on Takara's (http://www.herogangu.jp/shop/item/webshop/picture/goods/867_1.jpg). I will admit that the mismatched greys on Hasbro's do suck though. :( The chrome on the Henkei does nothing for me. But really both versions have their own merits; Takara's is good for people wanting Cyclonus in G1 cartoon colours whereas Hasbro's is more closer to the original G1 toy and comics (well, except for those odd moments when Cyclonus was coloured blue... weird)


Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??
Yeah but none of the Classics had tampoed insignias, they had rub signs instead. And before we criticise Hasbro for opting to have rub signs over stickers or tampographed logos, remember that Takara gave their Car Robot Spychangers heat-activated insignias whereas Hasbro's RiD Spychangers had tampographed logos instead. It's a matter of personal preference which is "better."
e.g.: RiD Hot Shot (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/2/26/RIDHotShot-RIDtoy.jpg) vs. CR Artfire (http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Dice/4403/takara/carobo/carobo24.jpg); you can see that Hot Shot has a tampoed logo whereas Artfire's is heat activated.

On the whole I strongly agree with you, but there are exceptions and I don't think it's entirely accurate to say that the Japanese version is "always" better. I'd say they're _usually_ better, but not always. :)

[kup]

Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!

Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??

I think that the problem with Hasbro's paint jobs its not just cheap paints but also a more marketing driven mentality. While the Japanese try to stick to character colors (generally not always), Hasbro tries to implement brighter more 'eye catchy' colors that would stand out on a peg or shelf so that the product is more appealing to the stores rather than the end consumer - Of course this isn't always the case as in some rare occations Hasbro will pull a totally bland and 'WTF?' color scheme such as Universe Powerglide or Silverbolt.

A recent example that I can think of is the horrible colors of Universe Dinobot.

[heroic_decepticon]

While I think that Alternators suck compared to Binaltechs, I don't think they're the worst Transformers ever. And the Jazz mould is one I quite like. My least favourite is the Ravage XK mould.


Are you saying that that whole Alternators line suck compared to the Binaltechs? Not sure I'm following you there because for the most part, each Alternator figure has a Binaltech counterpart.

Or are you saying that you prefer the BT version to the ALT version if and when it is a release of the same character? If so, I'm still a little confused because I can't see how, for example, ALT Meister can suck (pretty strong language) compared with BT Meister. They are essentially the same toy with slightly different material compositions; very much akin to rub-signs and tampographed versions of toys you've mentioned.

Also, ALTs as a line have its merits by giving us the likes of Mirage, Rumble and (ahem) Ravage amongst other figures that BTs never released. ALTs also have the advantage of not being subject to paint wear. As an example, I cite the bonnet corners of BT Lambor, man, hard to transform without scruffing off the paint there.

[GoktimusPrime]

I prefer BTs over ALTs when there is a release of the same character. To me they feel like a cheaper version of Binaltechs and are overpriced. Alternators retailed for about $45-55 (I know they got real cheap toward the end when stores like TRU slashed prices to clear stock, but the standard retail price was about $45-55) whereas Binaltechs retailed for about 4980JPY ($58) each. Yeah okay, you gotta pay for postage on top of that; but of course group orders helped make that cheap (:)).

I don't think that Alternators are absolutely devoid of merit, but given the choice I'd much prefer paying a bit extra for Binaltechs considering that they had:
+ die-cast metal
+ better paint apps (I really don't like that cheap blue on Alt Smokescreen and the dodgy white on Meister)
+ extra goodies (e.g.: tech specs card, nice booklet with instructions, photos and story)
+ Nicer packaging (IMO)
+ I can get the toy/character sooner (i.e. importing the toy when it comes out in Japan vs. waiting for Hasbro Australia to release the toy here).


Also, ALTs as a line have its merits by giving us the likes of Mirage, Rumble and (ahem) Ravage amongst other figures that BTs never released.
Mirage is cool. Ravage I don't like... and Rumble I don't have but I haven't heard good things about it. Is it true that the robot mode doesn't have hands? i.e.: only piledriver pistons -- cos Galaxy Force Rumble (aka Cybertron Scrapmetal) has hands that can become piledrivers, and it's just a cheap little Scout Class toy. I'd be mighty disappointed if an Alternator couldn't at least match that. They also gave us Decepticharge which was quite ordinary to say the least (the core mould isn't bad, but the execution was poor IMO; don't even start me about the name).

I don't think Rumble came out here and I don't like Alternators enough to import any... I only got Ravage because I found him cheap while I was overseas. :p Anyway, I don't like Alternators compared to their Binaltech counterparts, hence they comparatively "suck" IMHO. And it is just my opinion. :)

[Grievous]

Okay...I don't mean to jump on the Plastic Addict bandwagon but

Retrax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4TJRqWklXY

&

Armada Sideswipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymMGXrjZpc&feature=channel

look really awful...like a three day old piece of roadkill...
:eek:

[Megatran]

Resurrecting the thread for a bit of fun.


The entire range of RPM's?
Tough to beat.

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

[BigTransformerTrev]

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

I dunno - I have 4 versions of Frenzy from the 2007 movie and I reckon my RR version is by far the best of the lot

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Tough to beat.

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

Robot Relpicas were awful, I disagree on the RPMs though, I have (1) Soundwave and I think it's great :p

Simple, tough and fun!

My thoughts on Worst Transformer Ever would have to be Energon Swoop and grimlock. (http://tetstoys.blogspot.jp/2012/07/energon-swoop-grimlock.html) I still haven't come across anything that beats them yet. Although I have been avoiding buying Transformers I think are going to be bad (which included MOST of the 3rd movie toys).

[GoktimusPrime]

RPMs were poor value for money considering that you could get a die-cast metal Matchbox or Hot Wheels car for less than their full RRP. Unless you think it's worth paying extra for having Cybertronian roadkill stuck on the underside of the vehicles. :p

[drifand]

I prefer BTs over ALTs when there is a release of the same character. To me they feel like a cheaper version of Binaltechs and are overpriced. Alternators retailed for about $45-55 (I know they got real cheap toward the end when stores like TRU slashed prices to clear stock, but the standard retail price was about $45-55) whereas Binaltechs retailed for about 4980JPY ($58) each. Yeah okay, you gotta pay for postage on top of that; but of course group orders helped make that cheap (:)).

I don't think that Alternators are absolutely devoid of merit, but given the choice I'd much prefer paying a bit extra for Binaltechs considering that they had:
+ die-cast metal
+ better paint apps (I really don't like that cheap blue on Alt Smokescreen and the dodgy white on Meister)
+ extra goodies (e.g.: tech specs card, nice booklet with instructions, photos and story)
+ Nicer packaging (IMO)
+ I can get the toy/character sooner (i.e. importing the toy when it comes out in

I don't think Rumble came out here and I don't like Alternators enough to import any... I only got Ravage because I found him cheap while I was overseas. :p Anyway, I don't like Alternators compared to their Binaltech counterparts, hence they comparatively "suck" IMHO. And it is just my opinion. :)

I think alternators win mp cars. Mp cars are totally plastic and regardless what people are saying, die cast still outshines.

After looking at tracks mp25 I don't find it anywhere better as a toy.

The worst mp toy goes to mp-9 for me due to how weak the leg joints were rodimus couldn't hold the riffle, I mean did they actually test this or go with the "this will do" attitude?

[DELTAprime]

What about the various Kreo sets. I love building Lego, but the Kreo build of Optimus Prime I did just wasn't fun. Plus you have to disassemble the set to Transform it.

[Sinnertwin]

What about the various Kreo sets. I love building Lego, but the Kreo build of Optimus Prime I did just wasn't fun. Plus you have to disassemble the set to Transform it.

I don't know about Kreo's, but I know that Griffin absolutely loooooves his Built To Rule sets. :p

For me, Blazemaster from the live action movies

[BigTransformerTrev]

My thoughts on Worst Transformer Ever would have to be Energon Swoop and grimlock. (http://tetstoys.blogspot.jp/2012/07/energon-swoop-grimlock.html) I still haven't come across anything that beats them yet.

Again, I'm gonna disagree. Despite not being great toys by any means they were the first toys in over a decade that seemed to pay proper homage to the G1 toys and characters in both modes with their overall design. I think Energon Ironhide was worse with his visible head in vehicular mode and his poor homage to the characters lineage .

I guess all the characters in question had the Powerlink option which was kinda cool but I never made much use if it

[GoktimusPrime]

My thoughts on Worst Transformer Ever would have to be Energon Swoop and grimlock. (http://tetstoys.blogspot.jp/2012/07/energon-swoop-grimlock.html) I still haven't come across anything that beats them yet. Although I have been avoiding buying Transformers I think are going to be bad (which included MOST of the 3rd movie toys).
I think that there are worse toys than them (e.g. Action Masters, Power Masters, Animorphs etc.), but they are certainly really bad toys, and arguably among the worst that's come out of Energon. I think one of the worst parts of Energon Grimlock and Swoop is that neither of them have 5mm fist holes. Because one of the strengths of the Unicron Trilogy is that they standardised 5mm weapon posts. Virtually every Autobot/Decepticon in Armada, Energon and Cybertron can swap weapons with each other, including those formed by Mini-Cons, such as the Star Sabre, Requiem Blaster etc. And of course, they are compatible with 5mm post weapons from other lines, such as some G1 figures (e.g. Optimus Prime, Soundwave, Cassettes etc.) and many Movieverse figures (e.g. MechTech etc.).

So despite the fact that the UT made a deliberate effort to have a running theme across 3 series to standardise the 5mm post, Grimlock and Swoop stand out as the two exceptions who refuse to conform. And to make matters worse, they have no weapons of their own! :eek: For a relatively expensive boxed set of toys, that's really, really disappointing. A lot of the other "worse Transformers" that I mentioned before were carded figures, but Energon Grimlock/Swoop are arguably among the worst of the boxed Transformers. And inexcusably bad too... why couldn't they have given them 5mm fist holes? It's not as if it would've broken the budget. If anything they may have saved on using that tiny bit of extra plastic by having bigger fist holes.

And yeah, on top of that the individual figures are weak, and the gestalt mode is just awful, even by Energon standards. :rolleyes:

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I have to nominate TF Prime Deluxe Airachnid as my pick.
She's just awful, and the worst bit is she could have been halfway decent with just a little effort.:(

[DELTAprime]

I have to nominate TF Prime Deluxe Airachnid as my pick.
She's just awful, and the worst bit is she could have been halfway decent with just a little effort.:(

OMG how did I miss this piece of hot garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6gq5E0FZWg

[M-bot]

For me, Blazemaster from the live action movies

Yep. Alt mode is alright, but the bot mode looks like a mutant chicken that can't stand up.

There was a movie-verse human alliance toy (can't remember the name - Thunderhead or something? - turned into some kind of 4-legged tank) that was just horrible, just a bone-lazy design and ugly. Not really any positives to speak of. Never desrved a release, let alone the repaint that it got.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

RPMs were poor value for money considering that you could get a die-cast metal Matchbox or Hot Wheels car for less than their full RRP. Unless you think it's worth paying extra for having Cybertronian roadkill stuck on the underside of the vehicles. :p

Ha ha ha! Very valid point and probably part of the reason I only have ONE;):D

[Handsprime]

ROTF Devastator. I thought it was gonna be an awesome toy but I didn't like it enough to a point I just threw him away.
Now the legends one on the other hand was a much superior toy.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

OMG how did I miss this piece of hot garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6gq5E0FZWg

That is so awesomely bad I love it! :p

[UltraMarginal]

I have to nominate TF Prime Deluxe Airachnid as my pick.
She's just awful, and the worst bit is she could have been halfway decent with just a little effort.:(

I respectfully disagree, it would have taken a massive redesign to make that toy halfway descent. It's one of those "should have been a voyager" moulds. I'm pretty sure they put an intern on the design for that one.:(

[Zommael]

I respectfully disagree, it would have taken a massive redesign to make that toy halfway descent. It's one of those "should have been a voyager" moulds. I'm pretty sure they put an intern on the design for that one.:(

Ironically, the almost exact same design works reasonably well as a Legion class toy.