Robotech/Macross VF-1 Valkeries [Archive] - Ozformers Transformers Club of Australia (otca.com.au)

TheFallen

1st January 2010, 05:14 PM

Tober

1st January 2010, 08:30 PM

Kaiyodo will be releasing a Revoltech transforming VF-1 Valkerie, Kanzen Henkei (perfect transformation)

http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=51799&stc=1&d=1262326021
Kanzen Henkei (http://www.toyark.com/news/revoltech-toy-news-14/revoltech-macross-perfect-transformation-vf-1-valkyries-2107/)

They are due to be released January 15th, they are 1/15 scale and will be priced at 2400yen (approx. $29aud)

"Perfect transformation" is a bit of a stretch, looks like you have to swap out the heatshield with the canopy.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/KAIY_VF1Ae.jpg

A 1/15 scale VF-1 would be approximately a meter long... :confused: Maybe about 15cm long, I don't think Revoltechs are scalar.

Does anyone have any more information on these?

I would like to check them out. I have always liked the look of Macross/Robotech but the entire toyline confuses me

I know a fair bit post 2000. Ask away. :)

TheFallen

1st January 2010, 10:05 PM

A 1/15 scale VF-1 would be approximately a meter long... :confused: Maybe about 15cm long, I don't think Revoltechs are scalar.

I got 1/15 scale from a news item on Toyark. I can't find anymore information that is why I asked the question :)

Revoltechs are usually about 6 inches right? These would be the same size I presume?
I would like to know if this will be a continuing line or if they will also get the weapon upgrades aswell

I have preordered them on BBTS so I guess I will find out myself soon enough :)

I know a fair bit post 2000. Ask away. :)

I did some looking into Macross/Robotech and found the Toynami 1/100 figures. Are these any good? They look pretty good. Is the Super Weapons set a good upgrade?

I have found a Weapon Set and I am now looking for a Roy Focker to go with it

What is the difference between the Toynami and Bandai 1/100 figures?

What Macross/Robotech transforming items are the best? Masterpiece Collection?

Everytime I have previously looked into Macross/Robotech I have found it a bit confusing and very expensive.

Tober

1st January 2010, 11:32 PM

I got 1/15 scale from a news item on Toyark. I can't find anymore information that is why I asked the question :)

Revoltechs are usually about 6 inches right? These would be the same size I presume?
I would like to know if this will be a continuing line or if they will also get the weapon upgrades aswell

I have preordered them on BBTS so I guess I will find out myself soon enough :)

I did some looking into Macross/Robotech and found the Toynami 1/100 figures. Are these any good? They look pretty good. Is the Super Weapons set a good upgrade?

I have found a Weapon Set and I am now looking for a Roy Focker to go with it

What is the difference between the Toynami and Bandai 1/100 figures?

What Macross/Robotech transforming items are the best? Masterpiece Collection?

Everytime I have previously looked into Macross/Robotech I have found it a bit confusing and very expensive.

There's a decent comparison of the various VF-1 Valkyries/Veritechs HERE (http://anymoon.com/blog/2008/09/22/vf-1-toy-super-comparison-post/).

BBTS for the Revoltech? Surely you would be better off with HLJ, Amiami, Angolz etc...? From what I remember BBTS shipping is horrific, unless you are shipping it using the 'pile of loot' option along with other stuff.

There's a decent description HERE (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10105624). They state that the battroid mode is 13cm high.

I don't have a 1/100 Toynami but from what I gather they are ok for the price. The 1/55 Toynami 'Masterpiece' range should be largely avoided - there are horrific QC problems. There is a Bandai 'Hi-Metal' 1/100 VF-1S in prototype currently - it might be worth waiting for but won't see release for a few months yet at least.

I would recommend the Yamato VF-1 (version 2) series. They are on clearance/special at a few places currently but will set you back around $80 to $100 including shipping. However there were a few minor problems with the initial batches of Roy and Hikaru VF-1Ss and VF-1A - those are being re-released with the Super parts in a month for about $150 tho.

TheFallen

2nd January 2010, 12:19 AM

Thank you for all your help.

I have a Pile of Loot already waiting for me so it is cheaper to get through BBTS. But I have never tried the others you mentioned.

Do you have any links with comparison photos with Transformers?

Is this the Yamato VF-1 (version 2) series you mentioned?
http://www.otca.com.au/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=1309&stc=1&d=1262351759

They look great but are pretty expensive. I would have to be pretty sure on it if I was going to spend that much

Hopefully the Revoltech Kanzen Henkei figures will eventually get the Super parts aswell

Sky Shadow

2nd January 2010, 10:13 AM

I got 1/15 scale from a news item on Toyark. I can't find anymore information that is why I asked the question :)

Revoltechs are usually about 6 inches right? These would be the same size I presume?

They're pretty much the same size, which makes them about 1/100 (perhaps 1/115 in fighter mode - maybe that's what it was meant to say on Toyark?)

They look great but are pretty expensive. I would have to be pretty sure on it if I was going to spend that much

I only own a variety Takatoku/Bandai 1/55 Valkyries and their accessories - whenever I've shelled big bucks on them, I still feel like I've at least bought Transformers (since they're the same mould as Jetfire. Albeit sometimes with different heads.)

Tober

2nd January 2010, 01:55 PM

Do you have any links with comparison photos with Transformers?

Is this the Yamato VF-1 (version 2) series you mentioned?

I haven't seen them posed with Transformers very often. I only have a selective TF collection myself consisting mostly of Alternators/Binaltechs, Masterpieces, Alternities and some Classic/Henkei pieces. I only have a webcam for photos currently too... but I can snap anything you want to see.

That is indeed the Yamato VF-1S (version 2) due for release soon. The swing-bar that attaches the legs to the hips is fiddly and prone to breakage if you're not careful, otherwise it's a great toy.

Fungal Infection

2nd January 2010, 02:03 PM

If anyone is interested in acquiring Toynami Masterpiece Veritechs or the original V1 Yamato 1/60 valks, gimme a PM as I'm looking to trim and streamline my collection of Macross valkyries/veritechs.

TheFallen

2nd January 2010, 04:59 PM

I'll take that up :)

TheFallen

2nd January 2010, 05:10 PM

I haven't seen them posed with Transformers very often. I only have a selective TF collection myself consisting mostly of Alternators/Binaltechs, Masterpieces, Alternities and some Classic/Henkei pieces. I only have a webcam for photos currently too... but I can snap anything you want to see.

That is indeed the Yamato VF-1S (version 2) due for release soon. The swing-bar that attaches the legs to the hips is fiddly and prone to breakage if you're not careful, otherwise it's a great toy.

I only asked for pics with Transformers so I can get a sense of scale. Any pics with Classics will be fine if you can do it.

From what I have seen, I will probably get a 1/60 but mostly focus on 1/100.

I still like the Revoltech Kanzen Henkei so I will still get them and I have found the Revoltech Regult which should fit in perfectly with them.

What are your opinions of the Bandai VF100 series? Does it fit in with the Toynami 1/100?

Your help has been invalueable :)

Fungal Infection

2nd January 2010, 08:17 PM

Here's a pic with TFs for scale comparisons:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/Toys/valkyriecomparison.jpg

From left we have 1/60 version 1 Yamato VF-1S, followed by Bandai 1/55 VF-1S, Toynami 1/55 Masterpiece VF-1S and then Henkei Prime.

TheFallen

2nd January 2010, 11:02 PM

Thanks. Thats what I was after

So what size was G1 Jetfire? 1/55?

Ha, this thread has gone from being about the Kanzen Henkei to a general Macross/Robotech thread :)

Sky Shadow

2nd January 2010, 11:31 PM

So what size was G1 Jetfire? 1/55?

Ha, this thread has gone from being about the Kazen Henkei to a general Macross/Robotech thread :)

Yes, Jetfire was a 1/55 Takatoku/Bandai Valkyrie. And there's a general Macross thread here:

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=1956

GoktimusPrime

3rd January 2010, 04:59 PM

Raider: Sorry to nitpick, but I've noticed that you've twice mispelt "Kanzen" as "Kazen." Just be a bit careful cos as you know "Kanzen Henkei"　（完全変形） means "Perfect Transformation", but "Kazen Henkei"　（果然変形） means "Unexpected Transformation." :) Like perhaps if a Battroid were to transform into a giant wooden badger. ;) :D

TheFallen

3rd January 2010, 07:24 PM

Ha, I hadn't even noticed that. Thank you, I will fix it

Atleast I got it right in the initial post :)

Lord_Zed

3rd January 2010, 07:49 PM

Hopefully the Revoltech Kanzen Henkei figures will eventually get the Super parts aswell

Quite likely but by the look of them they will probably have to remould them slightly.

And just to steal a bit of Fungal's thunder I also have two (and only two) old Yamato VF 1/60's to part with for only twice the price of a Revoltech. :)

Dkaris

3rd January 2010, 09:49 PM

on the topic of revoltechs, anyone know any good AUS sites or brick and motar stores that sell them? i know kings comics sometimes stocks the popular ones like evangelion, there is another store in sydney china town, a little model store that mainly sells gundam kits in Capitol Square.

GoktimusPrime

3rd January 2010, 10:11 PM

There's a vendor at SupaNova that sells Revoltech... can't remember their name though. :/ They had other nifty imports like Encores and Henkeis. Anyone else remember?

Lord_Zed

3rd January 2010, 10:21 PM

Alas I don't recall either, Tama Market maybe? I didn't make a mental note of it as their Revoltechs were rather pricey.

Mr Ed

3rd April 2011, 08:05 PM

Can someone help me please re Toynami 1/100 scale Macross Series

Well Series 1 and 2 was numbers 1-6

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5673/screenhunter02apr031958.gif (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/screenhunter02apr031958.gif/)

Then Series 4 was 10,11 and 12 with the Super Weapon pack.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6070/86945269149x14900toynam.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/86945269149x14900toynam.jpg/)

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2827/86950246149x14900toynam.jpg (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/86950246149x14900toynam.jpg/)

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/417/90153222149x14900toynam.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/90153222149x14900toynam.jpg/)

It appeared that Series 3 was missed or not released? I've googled like mad and found nothing.

Is the Super Weapons pack Series 3?

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/3236/screenhunter03apr032001.gif (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/screenhunter03apr032001.gif/)

Fundamentally these toys are cool. A bit flimsy, but I love them all the same. I remember in the 1980's as a child playing the Roy Fokker Skullleader (aka Jetifre TF).

Tober

4th April 2011, 12:46 AM

Can someone help me please re Toynami 1/100 scale Macross Series

Well Series 1 and 2 was numbers 1-6

Then Series 4 was 10,11 and 12 with the Super Weapon pack.

It appeared that Series 3 was missed or not released? I've googled like mad and found nothing.

Is the Super Weapons pack Series 3?

For whatever reason, I don't think series 3 has been released. Maybe they decided to release series 4 first as it would be more popular..?

Mr Ed

8th April 2011, 09:59 PM

http://reggiocomics.blogspot.com/2011/02/toy-fair-2011-toynami-newcoming-macross.html

Here some pics from 2011 Toy Fair

Toynami look like they have some got good stuff coming.

Mr Ed

9th April 2011, 06:19 PM

I have a small modest collection (9 in total) of the Robotech Macross VF-1 series of Valkyries made by Toynami.

They arent perfect but pretty good for what they are.
Anyway here are some pics

Naked jet mode

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7083/p1020176o.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/p1020176o.jpg/)

Jet mode with Super Weapons kit

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4382/p1020179g.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/p1020179g.jpg/)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3972/p1020186c.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/p1020186c.jpg/)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3183/p1020187n.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1020187n.jpg/)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7929/p1020188b.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/p1020188b.jpg/)

Robot mode

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2851/p1020184e.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/p1020184e.jpg/)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8620/p1020185b.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/p1020185b.jpg/)

GERWALK mode

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8738/p1020182k.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/p1020182k.jpg/)

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7985/p1020183.jpg (http://img850.imageshack.us/i/p1020183.jpg/)

The detail on these toys are amazing, as are the parts included. It was a bit fiddly with arms falling off and general looseness. But very fun. I guess with all these weapon options, you have to be patient putting them on and pulling them off.

Tober

10th April 2011, 10:23 PM

Thanks for the news about the Toynami releases, Mr Ed. :) That Officers Battle Pod (Glaug) looks promising.

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Ahh... the Cult of Cannon Fodder. :) I still don't have a CF Yammie :rolleyes:

Nice Pics. :cool:

.

Lord_Zed

10th April 2011, 11:23 PM

I picked up a 1/60 Yammie CF at the last HLJ sale. Now that those Valks have been out for a bit HLJ seems to put them on sale to clear stock fairly regularly.

Mr Ed

22nd April 2011, 10:14 PM

For whatever reason, I don't think series 3 has been released. Maybe they decided to release series 4 first as it would be more popular..?

I think the mystery has been solved now? I just got the Super Weapons pack from BBTS

I think Series 3 was the Super Weapons pack, however, they stuffed up the numbering of Series 4 with 10, 11 and 12. It should have started with 11!

Reason - as per the picture, you can see 7,8,9 and 10

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6438/p1020217o.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/p1020217o.jpg/)

jazzcomp

23rd April 2011, 02:04 PM

where's the cheaspest source for 1/60 VF-1A Angel birds?

Tober

23rd April 2011, 06:10 PM

where's the cheaspest source for 1/60 VF-1A Angel birds?

LocusHK (http://www.locushk.com/?sp=&p=6&cat2=1339&cat1=155&cat0=24&id=3984&cat1=155&cat0=24&new=&more=&lang=en) have the best deal currently I think. I can't personally vouch for them as I've never used them before.

jazzcomp

23rd April 2011, 08:42 PM

LocusHK (http://www.locushk.com/?sp=&p=6&cat2=1339&cat1=155&cat0=24&id=3984&cat1=155&cat0=24&new=&more=&lang=en) have the best deal currently I think. I can't personally vouch for them as I've never used them before.
Thanks! How do the Hi Metal 1/100 compare vs Toynami version?

Tober

24th April 2011, 02:00 AM

Thanks! How do the Hi Metal 1/100 compare vs Toynami version?

I don't have a Toynami, but you can see it pictured above. The Bandai Hi-Metal is like a refined 1/60 v2. It has minimal skeleton diecast and requires some parts swapping.

Mr Ed

24th April 2011, 09:22 AM

Thanks! How do the Hi Metal 1/100 compare vs Toynami version?

The Toynami 1/100 cost was $50 for #1-#3 and for #11-#13.

For #4-#6 they were $50 too without the Super Weapons Pack

The SW pack was about $50 delivered for 4 VFs from BBTS.

As to the quality, the Toynami is OK, not fantastic. You pay for what you get.

However, the SW pack, various hands and decals are great.

I dont know how much the Hi Metal 1/100 are.

Mr Ed

24th April 2011, 09:39 AM

I googled Hi-metal - it's Bandai Hi-Metal

http://www.toyark.com/news/macross-toy-news-51/macross-vf-hi-metal-vf-1j-valkyrie-gallery-2655/

At 5,775 yen(MSRP) it equates to about $65, so if we see this in OZ it will be$100!

In looking at the article, it looks much better than Toynami!

Here is a Youtube review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG1gUbAJEqc

All up - it is very solid!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Bandai-Macross-VF-HI-METAL-VF-1S-Strike-Valkyrie-Figure-/130449352398?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5f6326ce

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Bandai-Macross-Super-Parts-Set-HI-METAL-VF-1-Valkyrie-/130502595527?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e628f93c7

Here is a Youtube review on Toynami

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WOT2V4md4c

Lord_Zed

27th April 2011, 10:30 PM

If your going to spend a $100 on a Valkyrie, I'd wait till HLJ or Amiami have one on sale, and get a 1/60 one. The last 1/60 I got was $100. They have sales pretty regularly too.

jazzcomp

27th April 2011, 10:54 PM

Do let us know.
Am interested in 1/60 VF-1J with ARMOR PARTS HIKARU ICHIJO
http://www.pingpongonline.com/shop/images/DSCF4408%5B1%5D.jpg

Tober

29th April 2011, 11:40 AM

Do let us know.
Am interested in 1/60 VF-1J with ARMOR PARTS HIKARU ICHIJO

HLJ just started a sale (http://hlj.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f60cb1eee37a8df2b5c8e588c&id=2829376a6e&e=1cc3873037). Some absolute bargains in there but not the 1/60 Armored VF-1J unfortunately. The Max and Millia VF-22S are under $100 each... :rolleyes:

jazzcomp

29th April 2011, 01:36 PM

HLJ just started a sale (http://hlj.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f60cb1eee37a8df2b5c8e588c&id=2829376a6e&e=1cc3873037). Some absolute bargains in there but not the 1/60 Armored VF-1J unfortunately. The Max and Millia VF-22S are under $100 each... :rolleyes:
How do I know which is 1/60 Yamato version 2?

Tober

29th April 2011, 01:42 PM

How do I know which is 1/60 Yamato version 2?

All their 1/60 VF-1 series are Ver.2. The first 1/60 series was discontinued a long time ago.

Lord_Zed

29th April 2011, 02:10 PM

Wow even the new Frontier Monster is discounted, tempting......

valkyrie_76

29th April 2011, 05:37 PM

SharkyMcShark

29th April 2011, 08:11 PM

Tober

30th April 2011, 12:33 AM

Slightly tangential, but can any of the resident experts comment on the YF-19 Third Trial Prototype 1/60?

Is it partsformery? Is it reasonably sturdy? Should I be looking out for any particular QC defects?

I've found one for what I believe is a reasonable price and have come into some money at the right time

The 'Bird of Prey' and/or 'Double Nuts'..? I actually asked that question (http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=11308&view=findpost&p=843372) and generally got positive feedback (other than the single feedback response in that topic). Tighter joints than the YF-19 but there is no chest lock so it will flop about if you turn the battroid upside-down. Some people said that theirs were still a bit loose, but improved on from the original YF-19 release. It's basically perfect transformation with minor exceptions like the intake covers.

So it sorta sounds like there's an element of 'luck-of-the-draw' in there but it's better than the floppy mess that was the first YF-19 run.

jazzcomp

30th April 2011, 10:22 PM

Sky Shadow

30th April 2011, 10:45 PM

Have they made any Valkyrie toys with crazy pimp-my-ride decals (like the Sheryl Nome/Deculture ones), or just the model kits?

Tober

1st May 2011, 03:39 AM

what happens if item is backordered? will hlj hold the entire order or wait till items are available before they ship?

HLJ can be really frustrating in this area. If it's a single order they hold the entire order for up to two months, but other items in your order that are available may go into 'backorder' while you wait. Might be better to email them and simply ask.

Have they made any Valkyrie toys with crazy pimp-my-ride decals (like the Sheryl Nome/Deculture ones), or just the model kits?
No. There are a couple of those schemes I like. :(