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Paulbot
9th December 2009, 11:32 AM
For those fans of Death's Head, you might be interested to know that the classic version (eg not Death's Head II) has just made a reappearance in Marvel Comics.

The new series S.W.O.R.D. features a cameo appearance in issue 1 and a longer appearance previewed in issue 2 (but I can't find the image I saw last night but it included Death's Head's eye getting blasted in the eye in a way that reminded me of Mikaela and Wheelie.

S.W.O.R.D. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.W.O.R.D._(comics)) is the Marvel Universe's equivalient of the Men In Black, a version of S.H.I.E.L.D. that deals with aliens.

Death's Head is presented in TF scale (not the human size of his later appearances following his run in with The Doctor) but I doubt Marvel will be able to sneak in references to the Transformers.

Might be worth a look, yes?

SMHFConvoy
13th December 2009, 07:29 PM
Well it's out and I saw it. It was a surprise I've gotta say :-)

Burn
18th December 2009, 11:35 PM
Death's Head is actually set for a 5 issue story arc in S.W.O.R.D.

Death's Head II made an appearence a few months back in Captain Britain and MI13, apparently as a reservist of MI13.

reillyd
9th January 2010, 07:23 PM
I was just floored to read in the new Marvel Sword #1 comic that Death's Head of Transformers UK fame (Simon Furman) is back in the marvel universe, and was unsolicited. This news might have slipped past most Transfans. Not only is the bounty hunter back and alive, he's still recognisable as him (as opposed to the failed "reboot" in Planet Hulk). He's around until at least next issue, so here's hoping he'll be a regular.

griffin
9th January 2010, 08:19 PM
Yeah, that bit of news was snuck into one of the non-tf sections of the board, and only had 70 views:
http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=6345

sideswipes brother
10th January 2010, 05:42 PM
Excuse my knowledge but i have no experience with the UK comic. Was Deaths head a transformer or just a bounty hunter. Was he a robot at all??

GoktimusPrime
10th January 2010, 05:59 PM
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death%27s_head

Sky Shadow
10th January 2010, 06:28 PM
Excuse my knowledge but i have no experience with the UK comic. Was Deaths head a transformer or just a bounty hunter. Was he a robot at all??

Death's Head was a non-transforming, non-Transformer robot from the future who was blown up to Cybertronian size and became a bounty hunter. He was then sent to 2007ish by The Doctor. (From Doctor Who. No, really.) Death's Head then timetravelled back to 1987 to hunt for Galvatron but was prematurely sent back to 2007 by Wreck-Gar. He then hunted Rodimus Prime, but Prime paid Death's Head more to hunt Cyclonus and Scourge instead. Death's head then defeated Unicron (with a bit of help) and travelled through time again. He met The Doctor again, who shrank him back down to human size using The Master's Tissue Compression Eliminator and sent him to 8162. Where he did lots of stuff with lots of people, none of it directly related to Transformers.

Death's Head II was originally Minion, a cyborg from 2020 who was an amalgamation of personalities owing to him sucking the skills out of a variety of people, but when he tried to do it to Death's Head, DH's personality became the dominant one. (Supposedly, although he stopped liking money and bounty hunting and became a hero instead. He didn't have anything to do with Transformers. Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.)

Death's Head III is a cyborg from the 22nd century who allegedly precedes Death's Head (I). He didn't hang around with Transformers.

And there's even more time travel involved than just the bits I mentioned.

(Oh - and S.W.O.R.D. is an awesome comic - Kieron Gillen is a legend.)

GoktimusPrime
10th January 2010, 08:55 PM
More about Death's Head:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Death%27s_Head
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Death%27s_Head
http://marvel.wikia.com/Death%27s_Head_%28Lupex%29

Seraphim Prime
10th January 2010, 11:02 PM
Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.

They all regretted it the next morning...

:D

heroic_decepticon
11th January 2010, 02:33 AM
Death's Head was a non-transforming, non-Transformer robot from the future who was blown up to Cybertronian size and became a bounty hunter. He was then sent to 2007ish by The Doctor. (From Doctor Who. No, really.) Death's Head then timetravelled back to 1987 to hunt for Galvatron but was prematurely sent back to 2007 by Wreck-Gar. He then hunted Rodimus Prime, but Prime paid Death's Head more to hunt Cyclonus and Scourge instead. Death's head then defeated Unicron (with a bit of help) and travelled through time again. He met The Doctor again, who shrank him back down to human size using The Master's Tissue Compression Eliminator and sent him to 8162. Where he did lots of stuff with lots of people, none of it directly related to Transformers.

Death's Head II was originally Minion, a cyborg from 2020 who was an amalgamation of personalities owing to him sucking the skills out of a variety of people, but when he tried to do it to Death's Head, DH's personality became the dominant one. (Supposedly, although he stopped liking money and bounty hunting and became a hero instead. He didn't have anything to do with Transformers. Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.)

Death's Head III is a cyborg from the 22nd century who allegedly precedes Death's Head (I). He didn't hang around with Transformers.

And there's even more time travel involved than just the bits I mentioned.

(Oh - and S.W.O.R.D. is an awesome comic - Kieron Gillen is a legend.)

Death's Head was all sorts of awesome in the Marvel UK-verse. :D

GoktimusPrime
11th January 2010, 02:02 PM
Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.
They all regretted it the next morning...
Eww.

Technically it is in continuity. Transformers was originally intended to occur in Marvel's Earth-616 (the "main" Marvel universe at the time) but after #3 it became apparent that it wasn't; especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla. Transformers occurs in Marvel's Earth-91274 and Earth-120185, both of which, as far as Transformers continuity is concerned, are really the same universe. The two universes exist simply because Marvel US created Earth-91274 whereas Marvel UK created Earth-120185, but as we all know, the Marvel UK Transformers stories are really an expansion of the Marvel US stories (just like how the Clone Wars series is an expansion of the Star Wars movies and not a separate reality). At first one could have argued that Earth-91274 was G1 _without_ all the extra events that occured on Earth-120185, but that would've all been retconned after #56 when Simon Furman took over from Bob Budiansky in writing the Marvel US Transformers comics, after which he essentially fused Marvel US continuity with Marvel UK (e.g. the Matrix Quest could not have occured on Earth-91274 if not for events that occured on Earth-120185 (e.g.: Deathbringer)). And certain contradictions between the two (e.g.: Earthforce Saga) have since been retconned as being in alternate realities.

I personally consider Earths 91274 and 120185 as being the same universe anyway. Oh yeah, and G.I. Joe also exists in this universe(s) (although in Earth-120185 they're called Action Force, which is what Hasbro marketed G.I. Joe as in the UK).

Paulbot
11th January 2010, 03:40 PM
Could we merge this thread with the one I started? My thread didn't include the character's name because it was a spoiler for the S.W.O.R.D. comic but that comic has been out for a while now.


especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla.

Also Godzilla does exist in 616 (http://marvel.wikia.com/Godzilla_(Earth-616)) you just can't say the name anymore. IIRC Nick Fury, in Transformers #3, was complaining that if Godzilla was back he didn't want to have to deal with it again.

Tabias Prime
11th January 2010, 07:57 PM
Death's Head was a non-transforming, non-Transformer robot from the future who was blown up to Cybertronian size and became a bounty hunter. He was then sent to 2007ish by The Doctor. (From Doctor Who. No, really.) Death's Head then timetravelled back to 1987 to hunt for Galvatron but was prematurely sent back to 2007 by Wreck-Gar. He then hunted Rodimus Prime, but Prime paid Death's Head more to hunt Cyclonus and Scourge instead. Death's head then defeated Unicron (with a bit of help) and travelled through time again. He met The Doctor again, who shrank him back down to human size using The Master's Tissue Compression Eliminator and sent him to 8162. Where he did lots of stuff with lots of people, none of it directly related to Transformers.

Death's Head II was originally Minion, a cyborg from 2020 who was an amalgamation of personalities owing to him sucking the skills out of a variety of people, but when he tried to do it to Death's Head, DH's personality became the dominant one. (Supposedly, although he stopped liking money and bounty hunting and became a hero instead. He didn't have anything to do with Transformers. Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.)

Death's Head III is a cyborg from the 22nd century who allegedly precedes Death's Head (I). He didn't hang around with Transformers.

And there's even more time travel involved than just the bits I mentioned.

(Oh - and S.W.O.R.D. is an awesome comic - Kieron Gillen is a legend.)

My head hurts now just from reading that......

GoktimusPrime
12th January 2010, 09:33 AM
Also Godzilla does exist in 616 you just can't say the name anymore. IIRC Nick Fury, in Transformers #3, was complaining that if Godzilla was back he didn't want to have to deal with it again.
I thought that's what I'd said. :/ At any rate, it's what I meant. Apologies if it came across otherwise.

especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla.
"If that big green, fire-snortin' lizard is loose again, I quit!" - Nick Fury (Transformers, "Prisoner of War!")

Sky Shadow
17th February 2010, 02:49 PM
This series is well and truly one of Marvel's best comics. I just had a couple of thoughts.

1.) since S.W.O.R.D. is set in the present (2009-2010) amusingly, from a liner time perspective, it occurs after all his 'future' stories in Transformers UK (2007-2008).

2.) but Death's Head is a time-and-dimension-traveller. He's really big in this story (thus it must predate Doctor Who Magazine #135 when he was shrunk down) and Beast suggests that instead of 'Bounty Hunter' or 'Personal Recovery Specialist', Death's Head should call himself a 'Freelance Peacekeeping Agent'. And Death's Head likes the name. At first I thought this was a mistake. But... I think this is a 'Casino Royale' for Death's Head - for him it occurs before his stories in Transformers UK.

Which is pretty cool.

kup
17th February 2010, 02:51 PM
Oh, I completely missed out of this and only became aware of it now :(

I hope the comic is still available someplace.

Sky Shadow
17th February 2010, 03:03 PM
Oh, I completely missed out of this and only became aware of it now :(

I hope the comic is still available someplace.

Issue #4 just came out and unfortunately #5 is the last issue, so you could either get them as singles or hope for a trade. Either way it's worth getting as a Death's Head fan - it's not just a cameo, he's pretty much the third-main character in the series.

kup
17th February 2010, 04:58 PM
Thanks for the information.

I will wait for the trade. As a Marvel UK Death's Head fan - This is a must buy.

Sky Shadow
9th March 2010, 02:10 PM
A preview of #5:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4607&disp=table

And an editorial/interview about the end of the series:

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25050