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1AZRAEL1
4th February 2010, 10:19 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/iinet-slays-hollywood-in-landmark-piracy-case-20100204-ndwr.html

SGB
4th February 2010, 10:47 AM
Great news for iiNet and Internet users in Australia. :) This case should never have gone to trial; such a waste of time and resources of the court.

AFACT could appeal the verdict though, so the saga may not be over yet.

My concern now is that the Government, who don't like the Internet (as evidenced by their planned mandatory filter/censorship), may try to amend existing laws or legislate new laws that favours AFACT types and places unfair burdens on ISPs and erase Internet users' rights.

llamatron
4th February 2010, 11:14 AM
It's a good sign, yes.

Now we just need an R rating for games and abolishment of the proposed internet filtering laws.

SGB
4th February 2010, 12:54 PM
and abolishment of the proposed internet filtering laws.
I hope you folks have been paying attention to the filtering issue, as legislation for it will likely be tabled either later this month or in early March.

Sam
4th February 2010, 08:55 PM
I wonder if any other western nations have had similar cases? They are nothing but a waste of time and resources. Finally some justice in the outcome.

SGB
4th February 2010, 09:25 PM
For anyone that's interested, here's the judge's ruling:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2010/24.html

Have a read of the "Technical Background" section. I'm stunned that the judge was able to understand all the technical details so well.

GoktimusPrime
6th February 2010, 09:16 AM
I don't think that ISPs should be held accountable for the way their customers behave online - no more than say the RTA is responsible for the way people drive. And it's not the RTA's job to enforce traffic laws, that's up to the police. Likewise if people are violating copyright online then it's the job of law enforcement agencies to police it.

JMO.

MV75
6th February 2010, 09:34 AM
For anyone that's interested, here's the judge's ruling:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2010/24.html

Have a read of the "Technical Background" section. I'm stunned that the judge was able to understand all the technical details so well.

Yes. Because all judges are from 1950. :p

1AZRAEL1
7th February 2010, 11:33 AM
But now it could get even worse.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-piracy-fight-takes-body-blow-20100204-nge0.html?autostart=1

Now they want to try and sue individuals. And why is it, that anything that is going to s*** all over the little guys when it comes to gaming/movies, does Senator Conroy always pop up. I am really hating him right now. He seems to be on the side of Hollywood in this instance.

GoktimusPrime
7th February 2010, 12:20 PM
Yes. Because all judges are from 1950.
Unfortunately some people refuse to get with the times. Drives me nucking futs.

"My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it!" - Abraham Simpson

Burn
7th February 2010, 02:52 PM
Now they want to try and sue individuals.

Good luck to them. Hey, at the very least it will create jobs because studios/music label and lawyers are all going to have to put on extra staff to gather evidence and prosecute/defend individuals.

Maybe Stephen Conroy should become Minister for Employment? After all, his grand vision for a controlled internet will create jobs at ISP's, if he gets behind the studios and music labels then he'll be helping to create jobs there too!

SGB
7th February 2010, 03:56 PM
Conroy calls for piracy code of conduct (http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Conroy-calls-for-piracy-code-of-conduct/0,130061791,339300874,00.htm)

Burn
8th February 2010, 07:46 AM
Not quite sure what a "Code of Conduct" would achieve, but I do have to chuckle at the wording of "Piracy Code of Conduct" :p


The Sydney Morning Herald previously reported a spokesperson for the Minister saying the government was considering a three-strikes rule — if a user infringes copyright three times they would be cut off by an internet service provider — depending on the outcome of the trial.

I find this interesting, given how much the internet is beginning to dominate our lives. Most companies are encouraging people to pay their bills via the internet, banks want you to do your banking via the internet, more and more home electronics are becoming internet dependant, society is rapidly reaching the point where internet access isn't a luxury, it's a necessity, and the Government's going to take it away?

hmmmmm....

SGB
8th February 2010, 03:51 PM
Conroy calls for 'mature' talks after iiNet case (http://www.news.com.au/technology/conroy-calls-for-mature-talks-after-iinet-decision/story-e6frfro0-1225827822674)


COMMUNICATIONS Minister Stephen Conroy says he won't push for new laws to tackle illegal file-sharing while the movie and internet industries are unable to work together.

kup
8th February 2010, 04:02 PM
The Piracy code of conduct should include:

- If you meet another pirate you must greet them with 'Ahoy, me Hearties! '
- If you meet a none pirate you must greet them with a 'Yer Landlubber'
- If you get fragged online you must say 'Blow me down!
- When you frag someone online you must say 'I am taking you down to Davy Jones' Locker!'

Given Conroy's actual knowledge of how the Internet works, it wouldn't surprise me if the above is more true to his train of thought.

SGB
24th February 2011, 03:14 PM
AFACT's appeal was dismissed today.

iiNet fights off AFACT’s piracy appeal (http://delimiter.com.au/2011/02/24/iinet-fights-off-afacts-piracy-appeal/)

iiNet again slays Hollywood in landmark piracy case (http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/iinet-again-slays-hollywood-in-landmark-piracy-case-20110224-1b6a1.html?rand=1298518148847)

AFACT's likely to make an appeal to the High Court, though.


The full appeal decision can be seen here (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCAFC/2011/23.html).

SGB
24th February 2011, 06:25 PM
iiTrial: A green light to disconnect pirates (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/249230,iitrial-a-green-light-to-disconnect-pirates.aspx)

Video: AFACT takes heart from dissenting judge (http://delimiter.com.au/2011/02/24/video-afact-takes-heart-from-dissenting-judge/)