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jaydisc
17th February 2010, 10:10 AM
Pop quiz Hot Shot:

You're Hasbro. You just introduce a new filler line called Generations which you've identified as deluxe only and usable for honoring characters from all generations of Transformers. Using only your existing mold arsenal, what repaints would you release? Perhaps try to differentiate between what you think is likely as opposed to what you'd like.

Paulbot
17th February 2010, 12:14 PM
More likely
Classics Starscream as G1 Sunstorm
Universe 2.0 Sideswipe as G2 Sideswipe
Animated Blackarachnia as BW Blackarachnia
Energon Sharkticon as RID Sky-Byte

Not likely
Classics Starscream as Action Master Thundercracker
Universe 2.0 Hound as G1.5 Scorch
Movie 1 Arcee as BM Thrust
Universe 2.0 Dinobot as BW(G1) Grimlock
Universe 2.0 Cheetor as BW Tigatron

fatbot
17th February 2010, 02:06 PM
a couple that aren't likely:

ROTF Gears into either Ironhide or Ratchet.

Possible

ROTF Gears Into RID X-Brawn
Universe Hound Into G1 Swindle + G1 Steeljaw
Classics Rodimus into G1 Chromedome
Classics Rodimus into G1 Tracks

1AZRAEL1
17th February 2010, 02:12 PM
Universe Hound Into G1 Swindle + G1 Steeljaw
Classics Rodimus into G1 Chromedome
Classics Rodimus into G1 Tracks

Now those I wouldn't mind seeing.

fatbot
18th February 2010, 02:30 PM
Armada Energon Downshift into AM Slicer

Whoops my bad

SilverDragon
18th February 2010, 04:42 PM
-Universe Dinobot into BW Grimlock, with the faction symbol changing to Autobot or Maximal.
-Henkei Dirge, as, well, Dirge.
-Energon Downshift as G1 Wheeljack.
-Universe Sideswipe as Armada Wheeljack.

jaydisc
18th February 2010, 05:06 PM
I suspect many fans would appreciate anglospherical versions of Red Alert and Wildrider.

Bartrim
18th February 2010, 05:31 PM
I would of said Universe Hound to Rollbar but they have recently used Rollbar's name in ROTF.

fatbot
18th February 2010, 05:32 PM
-Energon Downshift as G1 Wheeljack.



Energon Downshift already looks very, very similar to Wheeljack. I can't see Hasbro releasing him as Wheeljack with only a small repaint.


Classics Mirage - G1 Slapdash, this wouldn't be likely as we already have a yellow repaint of the mold.

Animated Cybertron mode Optimus Prime - G1 Kup, Maybe

ROTF Gears - G1 Skids, maybe




Armada Energon Downshift into AM Slicer
whoops my stuff up

Lord_Zed
18th February 2010, 08:27 PM
More likely
Classics Starscream as G1 Sunstorm


The above is surely a certainty.
Also
Classics Universe Prowl - Ricochet
Classics Universe Ironhide - Skids (in either g1 or movie colours)
Classics Ramjet - G2 Ramjet

Classics Ramjet - G1 Dirge will happen some day I reckon, but I'll be suprised of it's this year.

In the unlikely category I''d put.
Energon Scorponok - G1 Scorponok
Energon Slugslinger - G1 Slugslinger

GoktimusPrime
18th February 2010, 08:56 PM
Energon Downshift already looks very, very similar to Wheeljack. I can't see Hasbro releasing him as Wheeljack with only a small repaint.
They re-released Classics Starscream in universe with a relatively 'minor' repaint.

Not sure if I'd buy that mould again... it's not that good. :/ Cybertron Downshift repainted in G1 Wheeljack colours?

Wheel-J
18th February 2010, 09:01 PM
did somebody already mentioned Jazz? :rolleyes:

fatbot
18th February 2010, 09:32 PM
Cybertron Downshift repainted in G1 Wheeljack colours?


Cybertron Downshift simply doesn't evoke G1 Wheeljack for me. The only other Recent car former i can think of would be Universe Sideswipe\Sunstreaker, but we're getting that as Punch\Counterpunch, i'd prefer to get Red Alert using that mold then Wheeljack.

On a side note another one for the Classics Mirage mold - G1 Backstreet

Classics Starscream - G1 Dogfight or G1 Windsweeper

Universe Ironhide or ROTF Gears - G1 Crankcase

GoktimusPrime
18th February 2010, 09:53 PM
Meantime (retooled w/ Autobot insignia) - Generations Time Warrior!

Paulbot
18th February 2010, 10:39 PM
Universe Cyclonus as Beast Machines Jetstorm

fatbot
19th February 2010, 07:03 AM
Universe Cyclonus as Beast Machines Jetstorm

i like this, very very good!


how's about

Generations Drift - G1 Jazz or maybe even G1 Wheeljack?

Universe Ironhide or ROTF Gears - G1 Rollout

Rotf Dirge -G1 Powerflash

Classics Starscream - G1 Skyfall

Rotf Blazemaster - G1 Sky High

Paulbot
19th February 2010, 10:21 AM
Howsabout:
Classic Rodimus as RID Sideburn
Universe Galvatron as Armada Megatron

fatbot
19th February 2010, 01:55 PM
Howsabout:
Classic Rodimus as RID Sideburn


Only if we can get universe sunstreaker - Rid Prowl

i_amtrunks
19th February 2010, 03:07 PM
Energon Sharkticon as RID Sky-Bite, obvious but I'd like to see it

Classics Sideswipe as Turbomaster Boss
Classics Galvatron as Stalker
Classics Hound as Turbomaster Scorch
ROTF Blazemaster as Rotorstorm (pushing it)
If we could have scouts, ROTF Brakedown would have been okay for Turbomaster Flash...

lcz128
19th February 2010, 03:26 PM
Only if we can get universe sunstreaker - Rid Prowl

That'd work!
And while they are at it, they could use the exact same thing for a red alert, just with sideswipe's head!

Reckon a deadens out of Silverstreak/Smokescreen could happen... Just a diff head or if they are lazy they arguably could use the same head.

Makes sense to do a dirge out of the henkei one if they dare angering funpub(I guess thrust will be the test...)

Starscream mould we could have sunstorm, yellow rainmaker or even one of the generic seekers... The light purple ones!

Universe ironhide mould with a new head and thy could make a Soundwave...

Heck, they could make a jaz out of the silverstreak/smokescreen mould with a new head too....

I think this would be a possible good time to rerelease classics bumblebee in a more plain(no race stripes) deco too! But as they have the war for cybertron one coming too, they might not.. (or do a two pack which would rock!)

so exciting thinking of the possibilities!!!!

Verno
19th February 2010, 05:21 PM
Something tells me there won't be too much remodelling or resculpting going on. Just straight paint jobs.

fatbot
19th February 2010, 06:00 PM
Something tells me there won't be too much remodelling or resculpting going on. Just straight paint jobs.

we can dream can't we?

The above quote raises a good question though. What with the butt ugly heads and all, do we want them to repaint many ROTF deluxe into G1 characters?

jaydisc
19th February 2010, 06:15 PM
Something tells me there won't be too much remodelling or resculpting going on. Just straight paint jobs.

Years ago, I'd agree with this, but after seeing all of these:

Activator Bumblebee and Cliffjumper (head)
Universe Sunstreaker vs. Sideswipe vs. Alert (siren)
Universe Prowl vs. Smokescreen/Bluestreak (siren again)
Universe Ratchet and Ironhide (siren and head)
Alternity Bumblebee & Cliffjumper (head)

I'm not convinced.

Unrelated reminder: Hasbro said... "DELUXE ONLY"

Gutsman Heavy
1st March 2010, 10:56 PM
ROTF Brawn to Guzzle, sure he isn't a truck, but Brawn has more than a passing resemblance to Guzzles' appearance in LSotW. And enough guns to do any wrecker proud!

autobreadticon
6th March 2010, 10:16 PM
would love a henkei exclusive
Goldbug with new head
cliffjumper and tigatron

hubcap to jolt or electro
Drift into Jazz (i wonder if the front window could be turned upside to make it look different)

i wonder if Henkei G2 Seaspray with blkue chrome would look ^^

also since there are ROTF Breakdown and Dead End i would love scouts of Wildrider and Drag Strip and Deluxe Motormaster

SharkyMcShark
7th March 2010, 07:10 PM
I'm fairly sure that for the same licensing reasons that don't allow FP to use Movie 1 and RotF molds for Botcon exclusives, we won't see any of those molds in Generations.

Anyway, I'd like to see Energon Starscream as Skywarp. I saw a digibash to this effect years and years ago and it was awesome.

fatbot
7th March 2010, 07:31 PM
I'm fairly sure that for the same licensing reasons that don't allow FP to use Movie 1 and RotF molds for Botcon exclusives, we won't see any of those molds in Generations.




It doesn't matter about Licensing to make stunticons. Feel free to correct me, but the only one left is motormaster, all of the others have been redone, either as Takara Excluisives, in ROTF or as an Asian exclusive.

Seeing as how they have no truck molds at deluxe size point they won't do Motormaster. Plus we already have a Black Prime (nemisis) and a Purple (Botcon Shattered Glass) at Voyager, which hasbro aren't doing for generations

*edit*

there's also the fact that Licensing would only effect some of the ROTF toys, The Brakedown mold for example , may not have the same licensing as an on screen character eg wheelie.

SharkyMcShark
12th March 2010, 02:50 PM
It doesn't matter about Licensing to make stunticons. Feel free to correct me, but the only one left is motormaster, all of the others have been redone, either as Takara Excluisives, in ROTF or as an Asian exclusive.

Seeing as how they have no truck molds at deluxe size point they won't do Motormaster. Plus we already have a Black Prime (nemisis) and a Purple (Botcon Shattered Glass) at Voyager, which hasbro aren't doing for generations

*edit*

there's also the fact that Licensing would only effect some of the ROTF toys, The Brakedown mold for example , may not have the same licensing as an on screen character eg wheelie.

I'm fairly sure I had this discussion a year or two ago over at TFW2005 and the conclusion that was reached was that any of the figures from the ROTF and movie 1 lines can't be used, as Paramount has an interest in all of them (Paramount is mentioned on the box of all them, even non movie characters) and thus it becomes to expensive/complicated for FP. Which is a bummer.

This applies even to non on screen characters (I wanted Wreckage as Grimlock or BW Dinobot but it just wasn't going to happen).

One would assume that Hasbro would have similar licensing issues trying to reuse them for different lines - which I think is why they're sort of just going for the morphing of the RotF line into generations, because it gives them more room to manouver as opposed to if it was a distcintly separate line.

Anyway, I'd like to see some new molds based on IDWs TF Ongoing - I'd give an arm and a leg for that new F22 seeker mold and Hot Rod's current format (based on a Pagini Zonda if I'm not mistaken - you can even see how it transforms just looking at the art).

lcz128
6th March 2011, 01:34 AM
RESURRECTION.
Interesting going through this old thread and seeing how far we've come - HasTom has been spoiling us :D

liegeprime
6th March 2011, 11:29 AM
RESURRECTION.
Interesting going through this old thread and seeing how far we've come - HasTom has been spoiling us :D

Interesting and funny, it's as if somebody has been spying on this thread :p and has been shoving it in the suggestion boxes in the development section of Hastak :D

now ...

Generations Jazz into Ricochet
Generations Ironhide into Skids ( he's been neglected of late hehehehe)

Pipesqueak
6th March 2011, 11:49 AM
Tomahawk as Spinister please (as was speculated when the Tomahawk instructions showed a different head)

Autocon
7th March 2011, 04:19 AM
Tomahawk as Spinister please (as was speculated when the Tomahawk instructions showed a different head)

so is that vortex from the dotm line or is there yet another retool coming?

SharkyMcShark
7th March 2011, 02:37 PM
So out of this thread only three predictions were right - western release for Red Alert, and then RiD Sideburn from Classics Hot Rod and G2 Ramjet from Classics Ramjet.

jaydisc
7th March 2011, 03:34 PM
Plus this:


Universe 2.0 Hound as G1.5 Scorch

Paulbot
7th March 2011, 04:04 PM
If you count the BotCon exclusives then also



Universe 2.0 Sideswipe as G2 Sideswipe
Energon Sharkticon as RID Sky-Byte


Armada Energon Downshift into AM Slicer

As fine as resurrecting this thread is, it does have similarities to this more recent thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8126). Maybe a merge?

SharkyMcShark
7th March 2011, 04:09 PM
Christ I missed those.

Still, just the one mass release retail figure. Still, we should start our own exclusive prediction pool, we're good at that.

liegeprime
7th March 2011, 07:07 PM
As fine as resurrecting this thread is, it does have similarities to this more recent thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8126). Maybe a merge?

in for the kill!!!:o sorry couldnt help it

liegeprime
7th March 2011, 07:09 PM
So out of this thread only three predictions were right - western release for Red Alert, and then RiD Sideburn from Classics Hot Rod and G2 Ramjet from Classics Ramjet.

erm the henkei seekers to mass release Dirge and Thrust... uum what RId Sideburn??

Vector Prime
7th March 2011, 09:25 PM
erm the henkei seekers to mass release Dirge and Thrust... uum what RId Sideburn??

Upcoming freebie toy from the TF Collectors Club (http://www.transformersclub.com/sideburn11.cfm)

lcz128
17th March 2011, 07:31 AM
Did anyone figure out what the kuP repaint was going to be based off the head seen in his instructions!?
Don't recall seeing what people thought it would be on forums..

Paulbot
17th March 2011, 08:58 AM
Did anyone figure out what the kuP repaint was going to be based off the head seen in his instructions!?
Don't recall seeing what people thought it would be on forums..

There was discussion here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9351&page=2)

I still hope for Gears (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=204743#post204743)

1AZRAEL1
20th March 2011, 04:30 PM
Not sure if this is mentioned already, but I thought of a figure that would make for a great repaint/retool out of Kup. G2 Turbofire. Right alt mode, almost perfect bot mode. Just needs a splash of funky colours and a new head, and he'd be perfect.

griffin
20th March 2011, 07:16 PM
As fine as resurrecting this thread is, it does have similarities to this more recent thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8126). Maybe a merge?

Can't. Posts #1 & #23 require Deluxes only. (unless a topic starter designates a change of topic parameters, I can't insert off-topic posts from another topic)

People need to use the other topic if they have non-Deluxe ideas.

LordCyrusOmega
22nd March 2011, 10:15 AM
How about Animated Safegueard into Rack'n'Ruin? A bit of retooling and t could be possible. Was going to try this myself actually.

Paulbot
22nd March 2011, 10:27 AM
How about Animated Safegueard into Rack'n'Ruin? A bit of retooling and t could be possible. Was going to try this myself actually.

I've seen that done, from BotCon 2009's art contest:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3627775899_d5b47dd2ff_o.jpg

I like this mockup I saw of them as Dreadwind and Darkwing

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q244/omega_mog/dreadwind-darkwing.jpg

LordCyrusOmega
22nd March 2011, 10:29 AM
Thats cool. But i was thinking of utilising the combined mode so it looked like 2 robots fused together

Hursticon
25th March 2011, 03:09 AM
I like this mockup I saw of them as Dreadwind and Darkwing

*snip*

Wow! :eek:
That actually works rather well! :cool: