Botcon 2010 theme: Generation 2 - Redux (figures revealed) [Archive] - Ozformers Transformers Club of Australia (otca.com.au)

Paulbot

23rd March 2010, 11:27 AM

Still no registration, but the theme has been confirmed as Generation Two.

And a picture of the first exclusive toy has been released: Universe Inferno painted as Autobot Spark (better known to us in Australia as Pyro).

See the picture here http://www.botcon.com/BotCon10/

From 1984 to 2006, Earth was the biggest, baddest battlefield of the Great War. But after the Rebirth, Galvatron and the Nebulan Lord Zarak beat it, takin' the fight to Nebulos and other civilized worlds beyond. Sure 'nuff, Optimus Prime and the rest were right on their afterburners, leaving only a skeleton crew to man Autobot City against future Decepticons attacks.

As we fought across space a new generation of Transformers arose on Earth, boosted by experimental human and Nebulan science and given the spark of life through technology reverse-engineered from Vector Sgima. Ol' Terra Firma
was home to a whole new "Second Generation" led by an Autobot who sees this planet not only as a place to defend, but as the place he considers home!

While things were pretty peaceful for a time, we all know that can only last for so long. And now, through the magic of the Cybernet space cube, the BotCon enhanced stories of the Transformers...Generation 2: Redux!

From the description and the information so far it sounds like it might just be the new Generation Two characters being homaged (rather than the G2 repaints of the originals) but we'll have to wait and see.

I think Pyro/Spark looks pretty cool.

Maybe BotCon Skyquake last year was very popular (I know I loved it) and inspired this?

kup

23rd March 2010, 11:29 AM

Awesome! This theme is certainly something I can get behind!!

Now I need to hunt down these toys! Hopefully Ebay won't be a killer.

Saintly

23rd March 2010, 11:39 AM

awwww man! that look so hawt!

Sky Shadow

23rd March 2010, 11:48 AM

Wow! A Pyro/Spark without Gold Plastic Syndrome. I shall be buying him. (And quite possibly the rest, too.)

blackie

23rd March 2010, 11:58 AM

so whos willing to help me buy a boxed set?

Hursticon

23rd March 2010, 01:51 PM

That is one repaint worth acquiring, pending the price :p, but that is definately an awesome looking armage to G2, can't wait to see the rest.

optimus1

23rd March 2010, 02:36 PM

G2!!!! :D:D

I'm looking forward to seeing what other characters they plan on bringing out.....

Gutsman Heavy

23rd March 2010, 02:49 PM

Holy crapola its too friggin' awesome! May have to acquire this years set.

griffin

23rd March 2010, 03:03 PM

Surprised at how well the Inferno mould translates to Spark/Pyro. I'm keen to see how the robot mode looks, to see how well it keeps the colours in the right places to still resemble Pyro.

Was never a fan of the Universe Inferno mould, mostly because of the blocky looking robot mode, so if they can pull it off (the robot mode colouring) to distract the eye, I'd be quite happy as well.

With this year's theme and the Wreckers comic both featuring that era of TFs, its no wonder I didn't have a chance on a recent Clench auction (the last one I'm missing from that year's Euro TFs). A loose figure (no packaging) wouldn't have gone more than US$100-150 before this year, but last week sold for over US$300!

Those planning to get non-attendee sets, may have to jump fast on these, if the hype builds on this set/theme.

reillyd

23rd March 2010, 03:09 PM

so whos willing to help me buy a boxed set?

I usually by a boxed set and a loose set. I suppose this year no different - I'm excited about g2. You can save quite a bit buying them on the member discount. The hassle for me is losing money on the deal after shipping, after ebay and paypal fees, by reselling the set (and credit card interest until it is sold, because they always sell out way before actually shipping). So if there is anyone genuinely interested, I'm sure we can work something out.

1AZRAEL1

23rd March 2010, 03:15 PM

I know I would want a set, depending on price. And if the others look good as well.

kup

23rd March 2010, 04:07 PM

I usually by a boxed set and a loose set. I suppose this year no different - I'm excited about g2. You can save quite a bit buying them on the member discount. The hassle for me is losing money on the deal after shipping, after ebay and paypal fees, by reselling the set (and credit card interest until it is sold, because they always sell out way before actually shipping). So if there is anyone genuinely interested, I'm sure we can work something out.

I am genuinely interested but I will need to know a price. I have heard International Club shipping costs being absurd.

Zippo

23rd March 2010, 04:17 PM

Wow, Pyro looks awesome. I'll chime in with others and say that I would love to get a set. However I know that funds will not allow. Love to see what mold is made into Clench.

reillyd

23rd March 2010, 04:53 PM

I am genuinely interested but I will need to know a price. I have heard International Club shipping costs being absurd.

Based on past years, its a flat rate fee (40-60). Remember there's no shopping card, its just a registration form. I know the actual postage paid by MC was close to that, but its the club store that is a ripoff for club shipping costs.
So exclusive items like Punch/counterpunch, look to be expensive, as well as the boxed set (if any remain) on the collector site shop.

I'd say we won't know exact costs of the boxed set until the registration forms are up.

Kyle

23rd March 2010, 07:57 PM

Pyro is hot!!!

Now I want to get this year's BotCon G2 set too... :(

Thanatos

23rd March 2010, 08:16 PM

Pyro! This is so exciting! My G2 Pyro's broken thanks to Gold Plastic Syndrome :(.

BigPenney

23rd March 2010, 10:43 PM

This is looking like one Botcon set I may have to track down on the secondary market.
I'm loving the look of Spark/Pyro and I really hope that Hooligan can make an aperance. :D

Deonasis

24th March 2010, 12:40 AM

I am _very_ keen to get this set and the extra figures. I gotta get cracking on a budget if I want to make it happen though..

:) G2 Botcon is like ye olde INTERNET, it offends your EYES!!! :)

GoktimusPrime

24th March 2010, 09:06 AM

Pyro is hot!!!
Bada-boom TISH!! :D

i_amtrunks

24th March 2010, 11:03 AM

That is one spiffy looking alt mode, here's hoping the robot mode looks just as nice.

Another good looking exclusive that I wont be getting my hands on!

And it sounds like a great theme for a Botcon set.

Seraphim Prime

24th March 2010, 11:44 PM

Gutsman Heavy

25th March 2010, 12:51 AM

more sets for us hopefully!

I like many would like to get a set, so if anyone is getting a loose set with a boxed one and don't want it...

kup

25th March 2010, 01:23 AM

It's funny how well these figures have been received by us on this forum. Yet compare our reaction with the reaction on Seibertron and Tformers - they're all up in arms about how aweful, eye-burning, pointless it is!

Is it just because we were lucky enough to actually get these figures? Are the americans just spoiled? Or is it something different?

A lot of people complaining on those boards are geewunners. They don't accept anything beyond 1986.

Another thing is that they are missing the point to what an exclusive is. Its meaningless to those who don't care about EuroG1/G2 so no loss to them. However it's got novelty value for those who know and enjoy the Euro G1/G2 characters. That is what an exclusive should be. It's aimed at an exclusive crowd not for mass appeal.

Doubledealer

25th March 2010, 11:13 AM

Oh come on, this has to be the definition of an acquired taste. If Transformers held a mardi gras that Pyro would be leading the way on the front float. :p

1AZRAEL1

25th March 2010, 11:18 AM

Oh come on, this has to be the definition of an acquired taste. If Transformers held a mardi gras that Pyro would be leading the way on the front float. :p

He would be the front float :p

I quite like the look of this repaint though, I did like G2 figures in general anyway.

Hursticon

25th March 2010, 11:35 AM

I wonder if they will change their minds when the other figures are revealed?, I'm all for G1 but things have to evolve to survive, hell look at that Tramp Barbie. :p

liegeprime

25th March 2010, 12:26 PM

I wonder if they will change their minds when the other figures are revealed?, I'm all for G1 but things have to evolve to survive, hell look at that Tramp Barbie. :p

Well what can she do Ken turned out to be rooting for her team as well:p

I wonder which mold gets to be redone into Clench, that would be very interesting. I like the concept, but then I like G2:o:D even if it blinds your eyes.

Lord_Zed

25th March 2010, 01:16 PM

It's funny how well these figures have been received by us on this forum. Yet compare our reaction with the reaction on Seibertron and Tformers - they're all up in arms about how aweful, eye-burning, pointless it is!

Is it just because we were lucky enough to actually get these figures? Are the americans just spoiled? Or is it something different?

Well for the sake of balance I'll say these toys are completely painfull to the eye, and they don't really interest me. However I don't really like picking up toys that are expensive due soely to their being exclusive anyway.

Having said that I think this is the perfect sort of niche that convention exclusives should be aiming for, I mean look what's happened recently with fans being upset about Henkei and now Hasbro Thrust. I'm pretty sure Hasbro wont be releasing classics/universe/generations Clench anytime soon.

kup

25th March 2010, 01:41 PM

I think their colors are horrible and painful to the eye but that is why I like them :)

It wouldn't be a good Pyro tribute without that. The point is to represent that era of the toyline and the bright colors are a must as far as the early 90s go.

For some reason some misguided marketeer thought that because the kid's fashion trend during that time was all bright dayglo colors that toys painted that way would be of appeal to kids. Talk about misinterpreting trends!

Doubledealer

25th March 2010, 01:50 PM

He would be the front float :p

I quite like the look of this repaint though, I did like G2 figures in general anyway.

Haha, someone will have to do a photoshop once he's released. :D

I love the Euro TF'ers like the Turbomasters but this one is a little too OTT for my liking. Still, it's certainly very different!

The_Damned

25th March 2010, 02:54 PM

so am i the only one disliking this figure and that thinking that it looks silly? ;)

kup

25th March 2010, 03:13 PM

so am i the only one disliking this figure and that thinking that it looks silly? ;)

I don't think anyone would disagree that it looks silly. Liking it is a whole other matter ;)

Tetsuwan Convoy

25th March 2010, 03:22 PM

so am i the only one disliking this figure and that thinking that it looks silly? ;)

Nope, I think it looks silly.

Unfortunealty the horrible, horrible gaudiness of the whole thing is strangely appealing.

Get them for a laugh.

A $500 odd laugh though...:rolleyes:

griffin

25th March 2010, 03:46 PM

If it is painful to the eye, then the convention people got the colours just right - those Euro & Gen2 era toys were mostly painful to the eye, so to have a homage to it, we should expect to see some pretty aweful, clashing colours.
Could be worse - could a new character with an ugly redeco...

kup

25th March 2010, 04:02 PM

Could be worse - could a new character with an ugly redeco...

That's really the point. The Euro G1/G2 colors were horrible beyond believe but they are a signature mark of the line. There would be no point in tributing those toys without the garish colors.

The colors are a signature mark and there is the appeal to those who enjoyed the then new characters as its more about The Character tribute than the toy.

To this date I don't know of anybody who likes those colors even if they do like the new molds (which are mostly very good) and character concept.

On the other hand if a brand new mass released toy comes with such colors - then it is a reason for outrage just how Action Masters were in 1990 and those colors were in G2 as it is fundamentally a crappy idea :)

1orion2many

25th March 2010, 05:20 PM

:)I quite like the colouring and actually own Pyro and Clench:D from new.

The_Damned

25th March 2010, 05:32 PM

:)I quite like the colouring and actually own Pyro and Clench:D from new.
showing your age again ea:p

1orion2many

25th March 2010, 06:11 PM

showing your age again ea:p

:)Yes but I don't act it:D

Hursticon

25th March 2010, 10:56 PM

I know that this probably isn't the correct place to post this link but I think it is somewhat relevant to the discussion:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/G2-SPARK-Transformers-Oblitorator-Leader-PYRO-Wrecker_W0QQitemZ190383382332QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Action_Figures?hash=item2c53bbdf3c

1AZRAEL1

26th March 2010, 11:41 AM

Never really seen the actual G2 figure of him, thanks for the link. It is definitely a good homage to the original figure then.

Hursticon

2nd April 2010, 03:04 AM

A slight thread resurrection, this link to TFW2005 has some pics of Botcon Exclusive G2 Pyro in robot mode with comparison shots to Classics/Universe 2.0 G2 Inferno:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2010-generation-2-spark-image-gallery-169439/

JustOwen

3rd April 2010, 11:08 AM

BotCon.com has revealed the second figures from the BotCon 2010 Exclusive Box Set. The second figure is a name familiar to Botcon.....BREAKDOWN! Breakdown, a repaint of the Transformers Universe Sideswipe/Sunstreaker body mold, will receive a new head mold and be in full Generation 2 color glory! Check out images of the exclusive by clicking on the thumbnail to the left.

Breakdown joins Autobot Spark in the Botcon 2010 Box Set, which will be available at the convention, which runs from June 24 to June 27, 2010.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/breakdown-revealed-as-second-botcon-2010-box-set-exclusive-169443/

loophole

3rd April 2010, 12:20 PM

Sky Shadow

3rd April 2010, 12:42 PM

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/breakdown-revealed-as-second-botcon-2010-box-set-exclusive-169443/

Gasp! Okay, that's an amazing two-for-two so far.

Gutsman Heavy

3rd April 2010, 12:54 PM

oh lordy he be so gaudy!

I love it

loophole

3rd April 2010, 01:50 PM

now all they need to do is a G2 Sideswipe with all the spikey bits like in the comics

Sky Shadow

3rd April 2010, 01:53 PM

now all they need to do is a G2 Sideswipe with all the spikey bits like in the comics

That would be perfection.

griffin

3rd April 2010, 02:32 PM

Great, now another figure I want (BotCon 94 Breakdown) will have its value go through the roof... :(

kup

3rd April 2010, 02:36 PM

This is pretty awesome. If I had known this about 2 months ago, I may have been inspired to fly to Botcon this year

Sky Shadow

3rd April 2010, 02:49 PM

Great, now another figure I want (BotCon 94 Breakdown) will have its value go through the roof... :(

Or maybe not, since this more-articulated and larger version will be (relatively) readily available.

griffin

3rd April 2010, 02:52 PM

This is pretty awesome. If I had known this about 2 months ago, I may have been inspired to fly to Botcon this year

It's still not too late. ;)

Vector Prime

3rd April 2010, 03:41 PM

Is it just me, or do these two exclusive redecoes look absolutely hideous? :confused:

Zippo

3rd April 2010, 06:55 PM

Oh man that look fantastic.
I can see myself wanting the entire set and the add on's this year ...

i_amtrunks

3rd April 2010, 08:03 PM

holy toledo that is one nasty, yet fantastic repaint!

Two from two, but Pyro is still the better toy.

griffin

3rd April 2010, 08:50 PM

They are an acquired taste. Ugly colour schemes, but since they are capturing the element of Gen2 quite well, people are probably liking them for the homage they represent, rather than the actual colours.
Looking at that Breakdown, my retinas were burning... but it appealed to me as well, because I recognise it, know what this toy really means, and how significant it is to this particular long time fan.

optimus1

3rd April 2010, 08:58 PM

G2 Breakdown :D

I'm really liking this G2 theme! I'm seriously considering on getting my 1st ever Botcon set - especially when it is on a theme I grew up on (not Breakdown, since he wasn't released in shops) :p

christalcase

3rd April 2010, 09:43 PM

I can handle pyro but breakdown's... a bit bright for my eyes, it hurts from looking at him, and I dont like da pink used, well I dont wanna be a spoilsport or anything, but I am quite sick of this mold already (breakdown's), it's been I think da fifth use of the sunstreaker/sideswipe mold already in da space of 1/2 years? altho it's a gud mold, dere's only so much u can enjoy it...

Sky Shadow

3rd April 2010, 10:24 PM

it's been I think da fifth use of the sunstreaker/sideswipe mold already in da space of 1/2 years? altho it's a gud mold, dere's only so much u can enjoy it...

Christalcase - I don't know if it only bugs me because I'm an English teacher, but it's been striking me as odd for quite a while now: that is, you seem to know how to spell correctly, so is there any reason why your posts keep lapsing into what looks like some kind of weird Jamaican dialect? :confused:

christalcase

3rd April 2010, 10:27 PM

Christalcase - I don't know if it only bugs me because I'm an English teacher, but it's been striking me as odd for quite a while now: that is, you seem to know how to spell correctly, so is there any reason why your posts keep lapsing into what looks like some kind of weird Jamaican dialect? :confused:

sorry if it bugs you, it's just that I usually type like this on messenger, when it comes to papers/assignments and everything, of course I dont type like this :)

Sky Shadow

3rd April 2010, 10:44 PM

sorry if it bugs you, it's just that I usually type like this on messenger, when it comes to papers/assignments and everything, of course I dont type like this :)

Yeah - I could tell that, because you slip in and out of it - that's why it seemed so odd. :) That's cool if you're doing it instinctively and it's up to you how you want to write - I'd just remembered that the forum userguide asks us to post as coherently as possible and use spell check - I don't know if it's ever been enforced, but I guess it's worth knowing.

kup

3rd April 2010, 10:57 PM

Is it just me, or do these two exclusive redecoes look absolutely hideous? :confused:

Yeah they are disgustingly bad and that's why they are awesome!

dirge

4th April 2010, 09:47 AM

Breakdown is hideous... I like (:

Seraphim Prime

5th April 2010, 09:04 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed that Pyro didn't get a new head. :( To me that was what would have carried the allusion to the character, now it just kinda looks like Inferno playing dress up, which is a shame because the rest of the paint job does an amazing job of alluding to Pyro.

I would have taken a new head for Pyro over seeing G2 Breakdown. But that's probably because Pyro means more to me than Breakdown does, whereas Breakdown means more to BotCon and more of the older fans.

kup

5th April 2010, 12:06 PM

BigPenney

6th April 2010, 09:44 AM

Breakdown joins Autobot Spark in the Botcon 2010 Box Set, which will be available at the convention, which runs from June 24 to June 27, 2010.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/breakdown-revealed-as-second-botcon-2010-box-set-exclusive-169443/

:eek:
That is beautiful.
I don't know why but I love that head sculpt and I can't stop staring at it.
My wallet is crying just thinking about how much this set is going to cost me. :(

griffin

16th April 2010, 12:24 PM

I've been checking the Botcon website twice a day recently for the registration forms, but still nothing.
Today they've put up the brochure though, saying that registration is still some time away.

http://www.botcon.com/BotCon10/disneybrochure.pdf

Some interesting tidbits from the brochure:

Characters and toys confirmed to be in the set - Pyro, Breakdown, Clench, Streetwise, and... Skybyte???

Primus (attending) Package and Iacon (non-attending) Package - US$305 (members), US$375 (non members).
Additional loose set - US$210 (limit of 400, for Primus and Iacon registrations only)

No Guests announced yet (no surprise there, as FunPub have always had it as a last priority element, so often have recycled guests)

Only one pre-Con tour this year,allowing people have the 'extra day' for using the Walt Disney park. The pre-Con tour this year is the Kennedy Space Centre (NASA), which I'll be looking forward to. Costs an extra $110.

So, Clench, Streetwise and Skybyte....
Clench should be a different mould to Spark, as I'd expect Streetwise to have the Breakdown mould, and the pack wouldn't have two redeco pairs. Skybyte... Cybertron Sharkticon toy perhaps?

Paulbot

16th April 2010, 12:29 PM

So, Clench, Streetwise and Skybyte....
Clench should be a different mould to Spark, as I'd expect Streetwise to have the Breakdown mould, and the pack wouldn't have two redeco pairs. Skybyte... Cybertron Sharkticon toy perhaps?

I would have thought Streetwise would be a black Prowl. Saves them having to find police lamps for the vehicle mode.

Sky-byte is quite an odd choice for the set's theme.

Saintly

16th April 2010, 12:41 PM

So is the theme name Generation 2: Redux? or is it something else?

Thread title update?

griffin

16th April 2010, 12:47 PM

Yeah, they probably would use the Prowl mould for the different mould. But the Henkei (Red) Alert version of the Breakdown mould had police roof lights on it, so is still an option if they wanted to cheapen up with redecos.

I wonder if their wording of 'all new colour scheme' for Streetwise means that they aren't having his Gen2 colour (black and red), or just means different to his more known colour of white.

If the former, it could mean that a Gen2 Sideswipe is also going to be released this year, which would be black and red, and they don't want two toys looking the same.

For those interested, G2 Streetwise's colours:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:G2_Menasor_and_G2_Defensor.jpg

Sky Shadow

16th April 2010, 12:48 PM

I would have thought Streetwise would be a black Prowl. Saves them having to find police lamps for the vehicle mode.

This makes sense. I guess it's an excuse to use that mould or Henkei Red Alert's, otherwise G2 Streetwise is a strange choice of exclusive, since he has relatively boring colours.

And Sky-Byte will be great if he's Energon Sharkticon in Sky-Byte colours... it's intriguing if he's being retconned into the G2 (and thus - basically - G1) universe. I wonder if his motto will be a haiku? :p

kup

16th April 2010, 01:02 PM

I want this set but can only get them through Ebay :(

Paulbot

16th April 2010, 01:22 PM

The possibility of Hasbro releasing a black Sideswipe has probably put them off, even if it's not already planned it could be another Seeker debacle if they did one as a BotCon exclusive.

Zippo

16th April 2010, 06:36 PM

Sounds really good and with only 400 loose sets available its going to be hard to get (or expensive) to get a set outside the con.

liegeprime

16th April 2010, 11:02 PM

The possibility of Hasbro releasing a black Sideswipe has probably put them off, even if it's not already planned it could be another Seeker debacle if they did one as a BotCon exclusive.

Is there news that HAsbro will be releasing a black sideswipe? Id like that very much... Im just going to rename him though , or are these just whispers for now? Im so getting one if they did.

swoop

16th April 2010, 11:37 PM

Pyro and breakdown look great I cant wait to see the rest of the set especially what they do with sky-byte.
Sky-byte is an interesting inclusion possibly they are going to tell how the autobots and decepticons became maximals and predacons. I think that would be a interesting story for this set