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Sleeve
25th June 2010, 12:52 PM
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/7/3/8/6/3/dsc01340_1277434222.jpg


From TFW2005. (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/tfw2005-botcon-2010-coverage--autobot-alliance-academy-new-toys-and-more-170037/)

Bartrim
25th June 2010, 12:58 PM
:cool: 'nuff said

liegeprime
25th June 2010, 12:58 PM
Yay!! Chrome sword too! :D:D

Paulbot
25th June 2010, 01:02 PM
Yes I will buy this. I wonder where it will be sold (store exclusive, SDCC, etc)

Kyle
25th June 2010, 01:04 PM
From the link, I'm glad Animated Ironhide is still coming! Also, I'm happy that they're repainting Legends Arcee into a set of all three bike sisters. Perfectly in scale with the deluxe cars!

kup
25th June 2010, 01:04 PM
Pretty sweet man, pretty damn sweet!

optimus1
25th June 2010, 01:04 PM
I'll get this!

Also a nemesis for my Shattered Glass Seacons aka TFCC Seacons :p

5FDP
25th June 2010, 01:16 PM
I said before that I had no interest in getting Piranacon... but after seeing this :eek: That looks fantastic!

liegeprime
25th June 2010, 01:34 PM
Yay! more animated stuff... erm who does these displays? some of the figures have fallen and they cant get up :D:o..... wonder if really they'll do An. Thundercracker....

dirge
25th June 2010, 01:38 PM
Nice. I might just grab this for the stands, etc (assuming it comes with them).

GoktimusPrime
25th June 2010, 01:40 PM
YAY! A new (proper) reissue!! :D

I hope it's not too limited or exclusive though... <touch wood>

Paulbot
25th June 2010, 02:11 PM
$50 USD is a good price considering it's $30 USD for the G1-coloured legends Devastor.

Lordy
25th June 2010, 02:23 PM
Me wantee :)

SilverDragon
25th June 2010, 02:45 PM
I saw the original Skalor and Nautilator in a shop specialising in music and weird other things, and since then I have desired to obtain the Seacons. I guess this will be a good opportunity if it comes out here and isn't too expensive.

i_amtrunks
25th June 2010, 03:40 PM
Tempted to grab the re-issues, but I do like the TFCC ones I have...

Depends on price and availability I suppose (TRU or Target exclusive maybe?)

Gutsman Heavy
25th June 2010, 04:23 PM
eff yeah! WE BETTER GET THIS!

rampagesss
25th June 2010, 04:25 PM
Oh yea! ill be getting this looks great :D

Robzy
25th June 2010, 05:02 PM
:eek: Best. News. Ever!... well, for a long while anyway! :)

loophole
25th June 2010, 05:20 PM
excellant

heroic_decepticon
25th June 2010, 05:24 PM
I'll grab this for sure. Depending on price, maybe get more than one a la Masterforce Seacon army style... woohoo. Don't like the chrome sword though (sorry liege) and Overbite's purple looks a little strange but it could be the photo.

King Atlas
25th June 2010, 07:21 PM
Great news. I hope these will be available locally.

bruticus
25th June 2010, 07:45 PM
This is excellent news.
I'll definitely be getting one as i still dont have a G1 coloured version in my collection yet.

liegeprime
25th June 2010, 08:38 PM
YAY! A new (proper) reissue!! :D

I hope it's not too limited or exclusive though... <touch wood>

+1 or if it becomes an exclusive ( touch someone's...) let it be Target instead of TRU :rolleyes:

Defcon
25th June 2010, 08:44 PM
I would definitely be wanting this!

kup
25th June 2010, 09:13 PM
I'll grab this for sure. Depending on price, maybe get more than one a la Masterforce Seacon army style... woohoo. Don't like the chrome sword though (sorry liege) and Overbite's purple looks a little strange but it could be the photo.

Snaptrap also has a blue head

reillyd
25th June 2010, 09:34 PM
Link is dead. Removed by a tfw2005 moderator?

GoktimusPrime
25th June 2010, 09:56 PM
+1 or if it becomes an exclusive ( touch someone's...) let it be Target instead of TRU :rolleyes:

Yeah. I don't mind if it's a store exclusive (so long as it's available here) -- but it would royally and massively suck if it become like a club or convention exclusive.

Vector Sigma 13
25th June 2010, 09:56 PM
works for me?

Im gunna get this!!!!

tinyJazz
25th June 2010, 10:55 PM
Does this open the gate for... more G1 hasbro reissues? :eek: I like that idea!

primatives
25th June 2010, 10:59 PM
Cool! Definately good news! I already have 2 but will pick him up :) Nice and minty!!! Anyone notice shark gun is pink and not purple????? There seems to be some different colours to the orginal.

Zippo
25th June 2010, 11:25 PM
Ok, how do I get the rest of the pictures of this bad boy
I want - I need

When is it due in the USA?

orionpax1
26th June 2010, 08:07 AM
excellent, looks like it will be an expensive year this year.

GoktimusPrime
26th June 2010, 08:44 AM
Overbite's purple looks a little strange but it could be the photo.
Yeah, and Snaptrap's got a turquoise head. Hopefully these are just prototype colours. (-_-)

MV75
26th June 2010, 08:54 AM
HOLY CRAP!
HOLY CRAP!
HOLY CRAP!
HOLY CRAP!
HOLY CRAP!

So getting this. Wouldn't be sdcc exclusive though?

Extra sticker on seawings head..... Stickers pre-applied it would seem.

snazzbot 101
26th June 2010, 05:04 PM
Great news for everyone who wants him. I already have the Japanese version (I assume it was the same as the G1 American one) but this has me tempted...

Depending on the availability I can see myself picking one up, if only to have a set I can fiddle with.

VERT
26th June 2010, 05:42 PM
And thankyou Hasbro for the Combiner team I have been unable to combine :D
Now not only can I combine them but now Minty fresh too :D:D

fatbot
26th June 2010, 06:01 PM
I've already got him, but i may get this reissue just to encourage Hasbro to do more

valkyrie_76
26th June 2010, 06:42 PM
I've already got him, but i may get this reissue just to encourage Hasbro to do more

Yeah I probably get two (one to open and other to keep minty) and I like the look of MP Grimlock too.

blackoptimus
27th June 2010, 12:13 PM
If anybody is going to replace there original seacon's with this set, let me know as I can offer good money. Hehehehe.....

hanprimus
29th June 2010, 04:32 PM
RK got the preorder up....which says start shipping on 15 July...yeahhh~
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFBC2010PS&lang=us

1AZRAEL1
29th June 2010, 04:42 PM
Wow, fairly cheap, and sooner than I thought.

MV75
29th June 2010, 04:46 PM
Yea, didn't they have the actual toys ready to go ages ago and just needed someone to sell them? That would account for a fast turn around, just pack them up.

Lordy
29th June 2010, 05:32 PM
Very cool, this plus the Fansproject addons for Bruticus Maximus will empty my wallet for July

foor
30th June 2010, 10:34 AM
BBTS has preorders up too!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19150&mode=retail


http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19151&mode=retail

MV75
30th June 2010, 10:50 AM
Anyone group ordering these?

kurdt_the_goat
30th June 2010, 11:10 AM
BBTS has preorders up too!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19150&mode=retail


http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19151&mode=retail

Different prices for different shipping dates? Or you could just get it earlier from Robot Kingdom (http://robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFBC2010PS&lang=us) for the cheaper price! BBTS doesn't deserve anyone's business pulling crap like that.

Lordy
30th June 2010, 11:22 AM
I usually find BBTS to be way more expensive than the Japanese online retailers. Unless it is something that none of the Japanese retailers or Transformersland has, then maybe use BBTS.

Paulbot
30th June 2010, 12:04 PM
Interestingly I just got an email from BBTS which claims the Seacons are BBTS exclusives for North America.

We're not forced to use BBTS, but it's an interesting precedent for online stores to get Hasbro exclusives now.

1AZRAEL1
30th June 2010, 12:20 PM
Different prices for different shipping dates? Or you could just get it earlier from Robot Kingdom (http://robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFBC2010PS&lang=us) for the cheaper price! BBTS doesn't deserve anyone's business pulling crap like that.

Yea BBTS is a bit funny when it comes to that. We only really use BBTS to get Living Dead Dolls, because they are a damnsite cheaper than Ebay.

MV75
30th June 2010, 12:23 PM
Interestingly I just got an email from BBTS which claims the Seacons are BBTS exclusives for North America.

We're not forced to use BBTS, but it's an interesting precedent for online stores to get Hasbro exclusives now.

So what they're really saying is that no B&M retailers are going to sell these.

I'd really like hlj to sell these too. They have the cheapest shipping.

reillyd
30th June 2010, 01:17 PM
Interestingly I just got an email from BBTS which claims the Seacons are BBTS exclusives for North America.

We're not forced to use BBTS, but it's an interesting precedent for online stores to get Hasbro exclusives now.

Didn't they have Battle Unicorn as a Hasbro exclusive back in the day?

SamLoi888
30th June 2010, 03:40 PM
Hi - We just could not wait until the next main newsletter to tell about
one of the biggest pieces of news in www.bigbadtoystore.com history!

BigBadToyStore is proud to present our first ever Hasbro Exclusive:
Decepticon Piranacon - G1 Commemorative Seacons!

The Seacons are available in their traditional G1 colors for the first
time in over 20 years since their initial release in 1988!

This limited edition set is only available in North America from BBTS!

This amazing exclusive comes packaged in an awesome collector gift-box,
includes: collector cards, all 6 figures needed to form Piranacon,
and weapons for each individual figure. This is the first time
Piranacon has ever been reissued with the G1 color scheme.

A portion of our shipment will be arriving by Air Freight in Late July and
the rest will be arriving by Ocean Freight in Late August - Pick the
release that works best for you here:

August Shipment - $59.99:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19150&mode=retail


July Early Arrival Air Shipment - $74.99:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has19151&mode=retail


Thanks for your interest in www.bigbadtoystore.com and reserve your
Seacons now!

Thanks!

Joel & The BBTS Crew
www.bigbadtoystore.com

k.wong23
30th June 2010, 04:17 PM
Wow glad I sold my TFCC Seacons back a while ago! haha so whos doing a Melbourne group order :D

MV75
30th June 2010, 05:48 PM
HLJ: "While we do carry a vast array of transformers goods, we do not carry the Hasbro items. "

Well, robot kingdom it is then.

GoktimusPrime
30th June 2010, 08:39 PM
Didn't they have Battle Unicorn as a Hasbro exclusive back in the day?
Battle Unicorn was never sold in Japan by Takara in the Beast Wars Returns line, so that would make him a Hasbro markets exclusive toy - but in the same vein as other BM toys that were never released for BWR such as Buzzsaw, Longhorn, Nightviper, Scavenger, Mirage, Blast Charge etc.

From TFwiki:
"Battle Unicorn had an exceptionally short "shelf life", leading to many fans never seeing him on the shelf at all. However, Hasbro worked out a deal with online toy store Big Bad Toy Store, selling them solid cases of the figure (which managed to fill their warehouse for a good eight years)."

From an Australian POV, like many later BM toys, Battle Unicorn was never released here.

reillyd
30th June 2010, 08:50 PM
Looks like we get the cheaper price AND early release date,
and save a sheer FORTUNE on scalper shipping

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFBC2010PS&lang=us

MV75
30th June 2010, 09:01 PM
That's twice now that people are reposting things that others have already posted on the same page. Seriously guys, have a read of threads first.

FFN
1st July 2010, 02:36 AM
Since it's going to ship very, very soon, should we consider a group order?

GoktimusPrime
1st July 2010, 12:10 PM
I'll join in for a Sydney group order. :)

bassbot
1st July 2010, 01:54 PM
man it's all too tempting. nice to see the G1 repaints of Devastator and the Seacons look sick!

FFN
1st July 2010, 02:31 PM
Then somebody (NOT ME, I don't know how to do all of this) should organise a Sydney group order QUICK SMART since it's shipping in a fortnight.

primatives
1st July 2010, 11:02 PM
hmm i wonder if takara are going to get their hands on this??? I also wonder if there was ever a diecast version of this mold around anyone know????

canofwhoopass_87
2nd July 2010, 01:09 AM
Heh noticed this in a recent BBTS email. This set is going really cheap! I can definitely see people going nuts for this. Expecting a drop in the $300US pricetag on complete G1 originals?

This is great news for people who don't have them yet. They're damn awesome...even more so with a shiny chrome sword :p

FFN
2nd July 2010, 03:55 AM
So I take it nobody wants to initiate a group order?

Doubledealer
2nd July 2010, 06:53 AM
Heh noticed this in a recent BBTS email. This set is going really cheap! I can definitely see people going nuts for this. Expecting a drop in the $300US pricetag on complete G1 originals?

This is great news for people who don't have them yet. They're damn awesome...even more so with a shiny chrome sword :p

Yeah man, as someone who doesn't have the original set I couldn't hit the 'add to cart' and 'checkout' buttons at RK fast enough! This has to be the best Transformers release since, well, damn I can't even think that far back. :D

reillyd
2nd July 2010, 12:55 PM
And is it just me, or is this set (under $60 retail) WAY too cheap for a G1 combiner? Think of the last encore release of the combaticons.

kurdt_the_goat
2nd July 2010, 01:05 PM
It is pretty cheap, but not exceptionally so... Bruticus retailed for 7350Y but could be had for around 6000Y most places.

Zippo
4th July 2010, 07:09 PM
I would normally jump on a reissue that I don't have, but I really do have a thing about getting Takara releases..

Oh well, who am I kidding, I will import this after my upcoming trip.

heroic_decepticon
7th July 2010, 02:59 AM
The Singapore guys are TFW are ordering this into Singapore at AU$55 per piece, inclusive shipping. What an absolute bargain price.

kaiden
8th July 2010, 06:34 AM
The Singapore guys are TFW are ordering this into Singapore at AU$55 per piece, inclusive shipping. What an absolute bargain price.

thats really unfair.

DarkHyren
8th July 2010, 08:10 PM
Looks like I came back just in time, this is exciting news.
If enough of these sell it might indeed encourage further reissues of combiners.
I'm pretty interested in getting this, depending on my savings.
So, anyone going to organise a Sydney group order?
I would think about it but I've been absent for awhile so I figure I might wait till I've been back awhile before doing this stuff again.

MV75
16th July 2010, 10:20 PM
http://www.hk-tf.com/discuz/upload/viewthread.php?tid=18147&extra=page%3D1

No apparent rub symbols either. Anyone else who has these confirm?

Would be good to ID sets trying to pass off as genuine vintage.

5FDP
17th July 2010, 12:27 AM
There are a few different paint apps that was mentioned in another thread so they shouldn't be that easily mistaken for vintage. And don't forget that rubsigns can be bought through reprolabels.

heroic_decepticon
17th July 2010, 05:31 PM
Pictures at TFW of this set. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/283590-spore-malaysian-toy-discussion-237.html#post5006558)

Overbite looks terrible. What happened to his dark purple? Snap Trap's head is green...

primatives
17th July 2010, 05:49 PM
yeah not digging that green head on snap trap. the pink shark is ok i guess. Hmm makes me wnder if takara is going to release a more accuare version of this toy. I reckon they will.

kurdt_the_goat
17th July 2010, 07:06 PM
Pictures at TFW of this set. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/283590-spore-malaysian-toy-discussion-237.html#post5006558)

Overbite looks terrible. What happened to his dark purple? Snap Trap's head is green...

Whilst the reason for the changes remains unknown, i can't say they look terrible.

Ask yourself, if they were originally in these colours, and now changing to black head + dark purple, would you'd be complaining all the same?

GoktimusPrime
17th July 2010, 08:53 PM
Ask yourself, if they were originally in these colours, and now changing to black head + dark purple, would you'd be complaining all the same?
I think some of us would be praising the changes. Fans have praised changes made to reissues before, e.g.:
+ blue eyes on TFC Sideswipe (nicer than just silver like the rest of his face)
+ separate colours for faces and eyes on reissue Multi Force... though technically it makes them less show-like, I think they look better.
+ reissue Action Master Optimus Prime's colours crap all over the original. :)
+ a lot of people prefer the new face and eye colours on reissue Wheelie
+ quite a few people are excited about the metallic gold decos on the upcoming Predaking reissue

...so it's not necessarily people hating the change just because it's different.


Whilst the reason for the changes remains unknown, i can't say they look terrible.
G1 bias aside, objectively speaking they do look dull compared to the original colours because they don't provide as much contrast. Original Snaptrap's turqoise head is offset by his black head, and the yellow eyes also better contrast against black. The turqoise head here just blends in with the same-colour chest and the yellow eyes don't contrast as well (since yellow is closer to blue/green). This new Overbite has way too much magenta which looks quite bland compared to the original which was predominantly purple which was accented by the magenta upper arms and fists.

A nicer change might be if they painted Snaptrap's faceplate silver to match his original G1 boxart (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/f/f9/G1Turtler_boxart.jpg). I'd consider that an improvement. But the current changes we've seen make them look worse.

Having said all that, the changes don't bother me too much as I already have the original Seacons. I really want the reissue for the Piranacon parts, and I actually like the chrome sword (IMO that's an improvement over lavender). I intend on displaying the reissues as Piranacon and my original Seacons as individual robots anyway. :)

kurdt_the_goat
17th July 2010, 09:10 PM
Yeah i see that opinions can and are of course allowed to differ. Even i prefer the purple (though arguably Piranacon is more unified now since there was never any other purple). And i also prefer the chrome sword.. the black head i'm indifferent on. But they're mostly arbitrary changes, so saying it looks Terrible just struck me as an odd thing to say - i'm not one to pull out dictionary excerpts but here's one for good measure :p


Terrible: extremely and shockingly or distressingly bad or serious

Though, knowing heroic_decepticons collecting tastes, i guess if anyone was truly going to think it was terrible, it'd be him :)

kup
18th July 2010, 01:24 AM
I personally believe that the changes here are lesser than the original color scheme. I agree with Gok that the blue head doesn't look as good as the black as it now blends in with the rest of the body rather than standing out. I also agree that Overbites colors are off and much more garish than the original and kind of break the uniform color scheme of the Seacons.

However having said that, if I didn't already own a complete 1988 G1 Piranacon, I would certainly go for this set. If the new colors continued to bother me, I would simply try to acquire a loose vintage Snaptrap and Overbite of Ebay. Loose Seacons with no accessories can be very cheap.

fatbot
18th July 2010, 02:42 AM
I personally believe that the changes here are lesser than the original color scheme. I agree with Gok that the blue head doesn't look as good as the black as it now blends in with the rest of the body rather than standing out. I also agree that Overbites colors are off and much more garish than the original and kind of break the uniform color scheme of the Seacons.

However having said that, if I didn't already own a complete 1988 G1 Piranacon, I would certainly go for this set. If the new colors continued to bother me, I would simply try to acquire a loose vintage Snaptrap and Overbite of Ebay. Loose Seacons with no accessories can be very cheap.


If it really bothers people that much, I'll sell you my G1 Seacons, I've bought the reissue, I had to have that sword!

MV75
18th July 2010, 07:02 AM
Ask yourself, if they were originally in these colours, and now changing to black head + dark purple, would you'd be complaining all the same?

Yes. I can just imagine a black head being called a third gun, and the purple garish and out of place.




G1 bias aside, objectively speaking they do look dull compared to the original colours because they don't provide as much contrast. Original Snaptrap's turqoise head is offset by his black head, and the yellow eyes also better contrast against black. The turqoise head here just blends in with the same-colour chest and the yellow eyes don't contrast as well (since yellow is closer to blue/green). This new Overbite has way too much magenta which looks quite bland compared to the original which was predominantly purple which was accented by the magenta upper arms and fists.

A nicer change might be if they painted Snaptrap's faceplate silver to match his original G1 boxart (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/f/f9/G1Turtler_boxart.jpg). I'd consider that an improvement. But the current changes we've seen make them look worse.



Snaptraps head no longer blends in with the back cannons.

Overbite now looks like it belongs to the set.

The colours are more thought out this time and create a more "tropical" monster. That, and it would've been cheaper to produce it like this. Those extra colours might've added $10 to the set. :p Gotta off-set the cost of the chrome sword too. :)

GoktimusPrime
18th July 2010, 08:51 AM
Yeah i see that opinions can and are of course allowed to differ. Even i prefer the purple (though arguably Piranacon is more unified now since there was never any other purple). And i also prefer the chrome sword.. the black head i'm indifferent on. But they're mostly arbitrary changes, so saying it looks Terrible just struck me as an odd thing to say
heroic_decepticon was just stating his opinion. There's nothing terribly odd about that, regardless of whether we agree with him or not. My last post I was just providing reasons for why people might dislike the reissue colours (aside from "cos it's different from G1") - and in MV75's recent post he's provided reasons for the affirmative.

As you said, everyone has their own different opinions. Hell, at this year's BotCon kitbash comp there were several custom Thundercrackers all based on his Action Master colours! A lot of people (myself included) think that AM Thundercracker has disgusting colours... and when I saw those customs I thought, "Who the hell would _want_ to make customs inspired by that garishly awful thing?!?" -- but clearly whoever made that is a big fan of AM Thundercracker's colours. Either that or had too much time and money to waste on a joke. :p

kup
18th July 2010, 11:26 AM
Personally, what happened here is a bit of an example of something I have seen on the board a few times before. It isn't just about isolated comments from a particular individual harshly putting down an opinion he doesn't agree with as I have seen this scenario happen with other people in separate threads too and this includes board staff.

When something is enthusiastically liked by the majority and someone expresses an opinion that goes against that, he is either attacked, ridiculed or accused of negativity even when the person in question is just expressing his opinion with explained points as to why he feels that way.

If an opinion is not agreed then do what MV75 did in the thread above and give your own reasons as to why you disagree and prefer the changes.

Sky Shadow
18th July 2010, 12:25 PM
When something is enthusiastically liked by the majority and someone expresses an opinion that goes against that, he is either attacked, ridiculed or accused of negativity even when the person in question is just expressing his opinion with explained points as to why he feels that way.

You do know we're joking when we make fun of your irrational hatred of Sea Spray, though, don't you Mr. Kup? :D

kup
18th July 2010, 12:35 PM
You do know we're joking when we make fun of your irrational hatred of Sea Spray, though, don't you Mr. Kup? :D

Yeah but more went on behind the scenes ;) and I don't hate Seaspray, I just don't like it and think he is a poor tribute and toy.

Now let's get back to talking about awesome Drift - oh sorry, Seacons :p

Sky Shadow
18th July 2010, 12:47 PM
Do we know for sure exactly what this set includes? (I know the images on the sides of the box picture the individual weapons and Targetmaster bases, but since they also show the toys and accessories in their original colours, so it would be good to know to what extent the 'product may vary' from the packaging in terms of number of accessories.)

kup
18th July 2010, 12:55 PM
Do we know for sure exactly what this set includes? (I know the images on the sides of the box picture the individual weapons and Targetmaster bases, but since they also show the toys and accessories in their original colours, so it would be good to know to what extent the 'product may vary' from the packaging in terms of number of accessories.)

From the pics at TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/283590-spore-malaysian-toy-discussion-237.html#post5006558), it seems that it comes with all the accessories that the 1988 release did and appear to be the same color as the original for the most part. This includes the 5 black stands and weapons matching the original colors except for Overbite's gun which is now red and the sword which is now chromed.

kurdt_the_goat
18th July 2010, 01:39 PM
Personally, what happened here is a bit of an example of something I have seen on the board a few times before. It isn't just about isolated comments from a particular individual harshly putting down an opinion he doesn't agree with as I have seen this scenario happen with other people in separate threads too and this includes board staff.

When something is enthusiastically liked by the majority and someone expresses an opinion that goes against that, he is either attacked, ridiculed or accused of negativity even when the person in question is just expressing his opinion with explained points as to why he feels that way.

If an opinion is not agreed then do what MV75 did in the thread above and give your own reasons as to why you disagree and prefer the changes.

Kup, harsh would have been calling him an *** idiot. I just said "i can't call them terrible", and then that i too actually preferred the purple on overbite, whilst being indifferent on the head.

sideswipes brother
18th July 2010, 04:30 PM
If you're on the fence about getting him this might help.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/just-got-piranacon-reissue-the-verdict-t67510.php

DarkHyren
18th July 2010, 04:57 PM
If you're on the fence about getting him this might help.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/just-got-piranacon-reissue-the-verdict-t67510.phpSee, now I am on the fence about getting it :confused:
I mean I dont have any Seacons and would like to have them though, so I suppose it depends, and maybe that's just an isolated incident.

If it isnt...

If it really bothers people that much, I'll sell you my G1 Seacons, I've bought the reissue, I had to have that sword!I might have to ask you about this :p

Hursticon
18th July 2010, 05:13 PM
If you're on the fence about getting him this might help.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/just-got-piranacon-reissue-the-verdict-t67510.php

Certainly isn't looking good is it?.

I am very seriously considering picking up this set, but with the issues that are arising, like the pin that holds the head to the body? really?, it is sort of making me second guess.

I just hope that these problems are localised to BBTS sets and that Robot Kingdom's have far better QC.

fatbot
18th July 2010, 07:20 PM
Certainly isn't looking good is it?.

I am very seriously considering picking up this set, but with the issues that are arising, like the pin that holds the head to the body? really?, it is sort of making me second guess.

I just hope that these problems are localised to BBTS sets and that Robot Kingdom's have far better QC.

The bloke who did the review implied that it's a stolen version. BBTS hasn't got them yet, Robot Kingdom only started to send them out a couple days ago.

It may be that the one he has didn't make it though QC and was dumped.

In any case I should have mine by the end of the week, I'll let you all know

5FDP
18th July 2010, 07:28 PM
Wow, with all these QC problems I'm kinda glad that I don't have the money to get this set. I hope that this is not the case for anyone here that ordered it.

Hursticon
18th July 2010, 07:34 PM
The bloke who did the review implied that it's a stolen version. BBTS hasn't got them yet, Robot Kingdom only started to send them out a couple days ago.

It may be that the one he has didn't make it though QC and was dumped.

In any case I should have mine by the end of the week, I'll let you all know

Excellent, cheers Fatbot, I look forward to reading your findings. :D

k.wong23
18th July 2010, 09:11 PM
Cmon guys one guy has some bad qc, let's not second guess till more of us have them in our own hands: )

Gutsman Heavy
18th July 2010, 09:21 PM
indeed, there were many complaints about the TFCC Seacons, but I had no issues with mine. I'll reserve judgement until I get mine.

GoktimusPrime
18th July 2010, 09:59 PM
Cmon guys one guy has some bad qc, let's not second guess till more of us have them in our own hands: )

Knowing my luck with QC... I'm screwed! :p

dirge
19th July 2010, 10:36 AM
Personally, I really like the purple on Overbite. I guess it sets him apart as the "gun" - although I prefer Nautilator for that, since his lobster legs wrap nicely around Piranacon's fist.

So for me it's a shame that Overbite has lost the purple, but I can see that it's not necessarily better or worse. No doubt it was done to reduce production costs, but also unifies the colours.

i_amtrunks
19th July 2010, 02:16 PM
indeed, there were many complaints about the TFCC Seacons, but I had no issues with mine. I'll reserve judgement until I get mine.

Nor I, mine did not even have problems with the stands which seemed to be the main gripe with them.

Its a nice looking set, although I do like my TF's bright, I actually like the TFCC Seacons...

kup
19th July 2010, 02:39 PM
Nor I, mine did not even have problems with the stands which seemed to be the main gripe with them.

Its a nice looking set, although I do like my TF's bright, I actually like the TFCC Seacons...

What's wrong with the stands? I ask because the original 1988 stands are not that great either.

i_amtrunks
19th July 2010, 03:14 PM
What's wrong with the stands? I ask because the original 1988 stands are not that great either.

They dont exactly like holding the figures up. Balance is an issue, but since I dont use the stands, not a big problem.

Other people claimed that some figures would not "stay on" the stands (I assume they wouldnt clip into the holders, but dont quote me as I am unsure as to their exact complaints).

kup
19th July 2010, 03:36 PM
They dont exactly like holding the figures up. Balance is an issue, but since I dont use the stands, not a big problem.

Other people claimed that some figures would not "stay on" the stands (I assume they wouldnt clip into the holders, but dont quote me as I am unsure as to their exact complaints).

You just pointed out pretty much the same problems that the 1988 stands have. I think this is something that is mostly a flaw of the original design rather than something exclusive to the reissue or Club exclusive versions.

GoktimusPrime
19th July 2010, 06:11 PM
The Seacons' Targetmaster modes were always pretty stupid. I never took care of keeping my stands as a kid for this reason.

kaiden
19th July 2010, 06:16 PM
i opened mine up and they stand fine.

gestalt mode is front heavy though and the head pegs are loose connecting to snap-trap :(

otherwise everything else is fine for me.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/prettyduck/Photo0010.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/prettyduck/Photo0011.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/prettyduck/Photo0012.jpg

Bartrim
20th July 2010, 11:29 AM
Can't wait for mine. According to the tracking number it's in customs atm.:cool:

kaiden
20th July 2010, 01:28 PM
Can't wait for mine. According to the tracking number it's in customs atm.:cool:

my seacons slipped through customs on the weekend and demolished my front door on monday morning - it was pleasant ^_^

Bartrim
20th July 2010, 01:50 PM
my seacons slipped through customs on the weekend and demolished my front door on monday morning - it was pleasant ^_^

I hope mine gets through. One time when I worked at a Subaru dealership I had to order a part from Subaru Japan and it happened to be put in a container with some sort of contraband. I had to wait 6 months for the part.

kaiden
20th July 2010, 02:22 PM
I hope mine gets through. One time when I worked at a Subaru dealership I had to order a part from Subaru Japan and it happened to be put in a container with some sort of contraband. I had to wait 6 months for the part.

ouch. hopefully customs dont seize them for beng imported marine life lol

sideswipes brother
22nd July 2010, 01:33 PM
Wasn't going to but i just broke down and bought the thing from RK. Damn plastic crack!!

MV75
22nd July 2010, 03:10 PM
ouch. hopefully customs dont seize them for beng imported marine life lol

Ha ha ha, that's classic.

GoktimusPrime
22nd July 2010, 03:13 PM
I never had any problems with the stands for my original 1988 Seacons. They held up just fine. Well... that's if you just leave them standing and don't use them as a gun (which is what they're meant to be). (-_-) Like I said, that Targetmaster gimmick was always pretty weak.

fatbot
22nd July 2010, 03:59 PM
Got mine yesterday. Everything is there, there are none of the reported problems that was posted by Diem on Seibretron. The only problem i have with it is that the combiner joints are a bit loose ie: where the limb attaches to the body isn't gripped tightly. Piranacon Still looks damn good, and since i don't really play with them, I'm not worried.

kup
22nd July 2010, 04:08 PM
I never had any problems with the stands for my original 1988 Seacons. They held up just fine. Well... that's if you just leave them standing and don't use them as a gun (which is what they're meant to be). (-_-) Like I said, that Targetmaster gimmick was always pretty weak.


Yeah they are good for the alt mode but fail for the TM mode which seem to be what they are officially for.

I think that they were originally designed to show off the Seacon alt modes in a suspended form as if they were 'swimming' as they balance out fairly well like that.