Hasbro Designer Panel

[autobreadticon]

Live on TFW2005 now

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[griffin]

There are probably a lot of soiled seats in the panel room now, as most fans there wet themselves with excitement over all the new stuff shown.

Just about everything had rub signs on their concept art - not sure if they are coming back though (I will try to ask)

Legends class
G1 Optimus
G1 Starscream
G1 Prowl
G1 Megatron (proper G1 gun form - can even be held by MP Starscream)

Scout class
G1 Windcharger

Deluxe Class
Generations
Skullgrin - grey Darkmount redeco with G1 Skullgrin head
Scourge - stealth bomber, to complete the set of three movie Deceps in Deluxe form.
WFC Cliffjumper - Bumblebee redeco and new head
Thunderwing - similar Gen1 jet mode (Energon Megatron jet mode) WITH detatchable nose drone, similar to the actual Gen1 Thunderwing toy.
Tracks - even has the wings in car mode

Deluxe Class
HFTD
Tomahawk - and new head design shown
Terradive - also showed new head design for the later redeco
Mindset - Gen2 character (under Jhiaxus) using Hailstorm mould.
Fallback - can't get Outback name, but is that character, using Brawn mould

Maybe Generations, maybe HFTD
Gen1 Jazz - Gen1 form in both modes, including pop out speakers like in the cartoon.
Perceptor - Gen1 robot form, half-track vehicle alt-mode. Has shoulder cannon and flip open chest panel like Gen1 form. Redeco planned - Reflector.

Voyager
HFTD
(Blue) Fallen - Has a new head (show me your face scene), and will be a darker blue than the one in the display case.
Grapple - Universe Inferno mould with crane, new head and feet.
Highbrow - new Autobot twin-propellor plane in display case
Lugnut (I know someone here will be a happy little fanboy :p ) - similar to Lockdown, it is styled on the Animated version, with a more 'realistic' alt-mode.

PowerCore Combiners
2-pack
HeavyTread (Tank) w/ Groundspike (Autobot?)
Skyham(m)er (fighter jet) w/ Airlift (Decepticon)

5-pack
Steamhammer w/ Constructicons (construction vehicles of different colours)
Grimstone w/ Dinobots!!!! (dinosaurs - Grimstone is a Pachysaur (like JP Beast Wars Hardhead))
(not too Gen1 looking dino modes or colours)

Designer Aaron Archer then presented their story focus/mythology for the next several years (from where WFC and Exodus were born).
He showed us some of the first 13 (character art, no toys... at least not for a while).
Alpha Trion
Liege Maximo
Vector Prime
Prima (keeper/creator of the Matrix - Warrior of Light)
Megatronus (face is meant to look like the Decepticon logo - the 'god' that Megatron aspires to become)
The Fallen (once known as Megatronus - maybe the same character)

The rest are still a mystery (to us fans) at this time.
Each are 'Huge Epic Gods', so if a Toy is ever done for each, it will be big.

No more WFC toys are planned or expected, as they want to see how succesful the game is first. (which means at least a year minimum for more toys)

No Prime toys revealed - maybe not planning to release any when the show starts?

[Kyle]

Very very nice!!!

[SamLoi888]

No more WFC toys are planned or expected, as they want to see how succesful the game is first.

The game seems fairly popular in these early stages with the daily cycle on PS3 alone hitting over 6000 players.

[Bartrim]

Wow for a change I'm going to get most of these... Hope the poor house kept my room for me coz thats where I'll be living.

[griffin]

A lot of concept pics had rubsigns on the toys, so maybe they are returning to the toyline (Generations and Autobot Alliance toys).

One of the designers hinted at a Kup toy soon...

The blue Classics/Henkei Bumblebee toy seen a couple months back is not from Hasbro.

Success of Animated in Japan will not see any new moulds - only moulds created by Hasbro will be released, no matter how successful the series is in Japan.

Aaron Archer is now looking at revisiting Beast Wars, because of Dinobot winning the fan-voted Hall of Fame award.

An easter egg with the new Battle Ops Bumblebee toy - a button on one of the front wheels, plays the TFs theme-song on the first press, and plays more on the third press.

[5FDP]

Wow, there are some really good / interesting toys coming up. Particularly looking forward to those new legends and Tracks. Not surprised about a WFC Cliffjumper though... it had to happen :rolleyes:

EDIT: Just thought to myself if those legend class toys are going to have rub signs, where in the heck are they going to put them? They'd be tiny. Sure, even the original G1 minibots had 'em, but because of their 'blocky' designs it made it possible. With today's articulation in Transformer toys, it's going to be really interesting how they pull this off.

[griffin]

THey commented on that, saying that WFC Cliffjumper was the worst kept secret thanks to the instructions... :p

[Deonasis]

The blue Classics/Henkei Bumblebee toy seen a couple months back is not from Hasbro.

So most likely it is/was a TakTomy thing. It has been around for quite a while now without knowing exactly what this one is.

[1AZRAEL1]

Wow, there are some really good / interesting toys coming up. Particularly looking forward to those new legends and Tracks. Not surprised about a WFC Cliffjumper though... it had to happen :rolleyes:


THey commented on that, saying that WFC Cliffjumper was the worst kept secret thanks to the instructions... :p

I'm still a little suprised for the fact that he has a new head :p

That being said, I think I will be living on the streets within the next 6 months :p

[autobreadticon]

can you please describe scourge? Any reference pictures for it's alt mode? G1 style head? Shaped like a hovercraft? Can you go into detail the best you can ?

[TheFallen]

There are probably a lot of soiled seats in the panel room now, as most fans there wet themselves with excitement over all the new stuff shown.

There is the same where I am sitting after reading this :)



Scout class
G1 Windcharger

Deluxe Class
Generations
Skullgrin - grey Darkmount redeco with G1 Skullgrin head
Scourge - stealth bomber, to complete the set of three movie Deceps in Deluxe form.
WFC Cliffjumper - Bumblebee redeco and new head
Thunderwing - similar Gen1 jet mode (Energon Megatron jet mode) WITH detatchable nose drone, similar to the actual Gen1 Thunderwing toy.
Tracks - even has the wings in car mode

Maybe Generations, maybe HFTD
Gen1 Jazz - Gen1 form in both modes, including pop out speakers like in the cartoon.
Perceptor - Gen1 robot form, half-track vehicle alt-mode. Has shoulder cannon and flip open chest panel like Gen1 form. Redeco planned - Reflector.

Voyager
HFTD
Grapple - Universe Inferno mould with crane, new head and feet.
Highbrow - new Autobot twin-propellor plane in display case
Lugnut (I know someone here will be a happy little fanboy :p ) - similar to Lockdown, it is styled on the Animated version, with a more 'realistic' alt-mode.


This is the best Transformers news I have seen since the announcement of Classics 2.0

Tracks and Jazz = 'nuff said

[1orion2many]

:)I'm just happy the fans voted the best candidate into the Transformer hall of fame, was there ever any doubt:D

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Legends class
G1 Megatron (proper G1 gun form - can even be held by MP Starscream)

Scout class
G1 Windcharger

Deluxe Class
Generations
Skullgrin - grey Darkmount redeco with G1 Skullgrin head
Scourge - stealth bomber, to complete the set of three movie Deceps in Deluxe form.
WFC Cliffjumper - Bumblebee redeco and new head
Thunderwing - similar Gen1 jet mode (Energon Megatron jet mode) WITH detatchable nose drone, similar to the actual Gen1 Thunderwing toy.
Tracks - even has the wings in car modeProbably all bought, and maybe the Kup too...oh my poor bank balance.:(
How G1-esque was Scourge btw?

Deluxe Class
HFTD
Tomahawk - and new head design shown
Terradive - also showed new head design for the later redecoAny guesses as to who the remolds will be @Griff?

Perceptor - Gen1 robot form, half-track vehicle alt-mode. Has shoulder cannon and flip open chest panel like Gen1 form. Redeco planned - Reflector.Interesting, especially with the Reflector redeco.

Voyager
HFTD
Grapple - Universe Inferno mould with crane, new head and feet.
Highbrow - new Autobot twin-propellor plane in display case
Lugnut (I know someone here will be a happy little fanboy :p ) - similar to Lockdown, it is styled on the Animated version, with a more 'realistic' alt-mode.Cool, looking forward to seeing pics. Interested to see how they'll eventually redeco Highbrow, love the look of the mold but not totally sold on the colours as is. Lugnut love, woohoo!

PowerCore Combiners
2-pack
HeavyTread (Tank) w/ Groundspike (Autobot?)
Skyham(m)er (fighter jet) w/ Airlift (Decepticon)Will wait and see how they look and/or what the redecos are like.

Designer Aaron Archer then presented their story focus/mythology for the next several years (from where WFC and Exodus were born).
He showed us some of the first 13 (character art, no toys... at least not for a while).Thank heavens, my wallet is going to be sore enough as is.:o

Fallback - can't get Outback name, but is that character, using Brawn mould*Kicks self for not waiting* On the plus side, the green and gold is suitably Australian-y for Brawn to work as Odieverse Outback as is.

EDIT - and more Beast Wars! Bring on Rhinox!

[TheFallen]

It was also mentioned that the Hasbro designers want to do more Human and Cassette figures.

They better pull their finger out on the cassettes as Shadow Warrior is already out there.

It would be nice if the human figures were G1 in the HA line. Bumblebee w/Spike, Chip Chase w/Trailbreaker etc. I am sure even Animated characters could get some love in HA.

I love the HA concept and it should be expanded. Plus it is the closest thing to a M.A.S.K revival :)

[1AZRAEL1]

It was also mentioned that the Hasbro designers want to do more Human and Cassette figures.

They better pull their finger out on the cassettes as Shadow Warrior is already out there.

It would be nice if the human figures were G1 in the HA line. Bumblebee w/Spike, Chip Chase w/Trailbreaker etc.

Starscream with Dr Archevile...

I too agree with the Cassettes, need more retro stuff :p

glad to see Hasbro doing old school characters and giving them new life. Means all the old fans will most likely buy them, increasing their sales. Man my bank account is going to be zilch for a while with all these releases :D

[Deceptic_Optic]

PEEEEEEEEERCEPTOR with a SNIPER RIFLE o0o0o0o yeah my prediction came through *drool over 1AZRAEL1*...lol :D

[5FDP]

can you please describe scourge? Any reference pictures for it's alt mode? G1 style head? Shaped like a hovercraft? Can you go into detail the best you can ?

Taken from TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2010-hasbro-designers-panel-170066/) -


Scourge (G1, stealth jet, white in color, head elevates in vehicle mode, gun is a mixture of his G1 head-gun and his Targetmaster gun, NOT A TARGETMASTER TOY!

[griffin]

can you please describe scourge? Any reference pictures for it's alt mode? G1 style head? Shaped like a hovercraft? Can you go into detail the best you can ?

It's a lot like the Skystalker jet, but more triangular (longer nose). It's very curved/stealthy, but definitely a jet. The head is Gen1, and the gun looks like a combination of his two guns (doesn't turn into a targetmaster, but looks a bit like his targetmaster gun).


Probably all bought, and maybe the Kup too...oh my poor bank balance.:(
How G1-esque was Scourge btw?

Has the robot mode and colours, but the jet mode might put off some - it looks good as a jet, but isn't a 'hovercraft' looking jet mode that the Gen1 toy had.



Any guesses as to who the remolds will be @Griff?


Most they don't yet know or want to mention. In the case of original characters, they seem to just create heads that look nice, and then think up a character later.


It was also mentioned that the Hasbro designers want to do more Human and Cassette figures.


That was in response to a question about what the designers would love to do if they could. It doesn't mean that they are able to do any, as it would be their bosses deciding a series/theme or figures.

[Lint]

One of the designers hinted at a Kup toy soon...



Yayy S**tpiece! :D

[Paulbot]

Windcharger seems to be the odd one out. A lone Generations Scout doesn't seem likely so I wonder if Windcharger will be an yellow-packaged figure? Or maybe they'll repaint some previous scouts as Generations homages to boost Windcharger's assortment?

[TheFallen]

Griffin, can you give us a more detailed description of what was shown? Personally I want to know more about Tracks and Jazz :)

[i_amtrunks]

Lugnutz? Awesomesauce!

Some very good sounding toys coming in the next 12 months... Thankfully Uni will be over by he end of the ear and I can go back to earning money...

[snaketales]

my wallet just fainted...

[SharkyMcShark]

What were the new heads for Terradive and Tomahawk looking like? (I'm hoping cyberjet and G1 Whirl respectively)

[SpeedBreaker]

Can't wait to see Jazz, Lugnut and the G1 legends. :cool:

[autobreadticon]

Mindset - Gen2 character (under Jhiaxus) using Hailstorm mould.

cool do you remember the colours, guessing just a reco.?

Grapple - Universe Inferno mould with crane, new head and feet.
any other details :D?

[Sleeve]

Lugnutz? Awesomesauce!

And there it is. :p

[Hursticon]

Man, why can't they release pictures (if there were any) to those who aren't able to attend Botcon?. :mad:

I like lists, but I also like to see what is going to cause my wallet to turn inside out and vanish from existence!. :p

Damn looking forward to the Generations G1 goodness and very happy that Outback is making a return - I wonder who has acquired that name anyway?. :D

Really, really, really want to see and or hear what they plan to do with Beastwars in the future!. :D

[kurdt_the_goat]

Nevermind Outback, who took the names of the Seacons? Decepticon Seawing, Decepticon Snap Trap, Decepticon Tentakil & Decepticon Nautilator?

Surely some other issues are at play, for the name Nautilator to be taken!

[liegeprime]

yyyaaaaaayyyyyy!!! although my wallet is shouting, naaaaaayy!!:eek::eek::eek::o:D:o - ahhh mind over matter.. - my mind is made up Im buying these G1 homages and the matter is my poor empty wallet...:D:o

I like their description of Scourge - triangular soapdish of doom heeheh

darn..... I need a bigger room and more shelves to house them all:(:(

[Robzy]

Oooo... all the G1 stuff sounds great! I'm liking those Legends... Megatron as a mini gun - cool! :cool:

Scourge is also great news, as is Tracks and Jazz!!! :eek:

Disappointed about WFC though... I was hoping we'd get Shockwave :(

[griffin]

Mindset - Gen2 character (under Jhiaxus) using Hailstorm mould.

cool do you remember the colours, guessing just a reco.?

Mostly grey, which I think is the colours of the Gen2 character.

[Zippo]

Man, there is some awesome news there ..
Love the decision to finally release Classics versions of Jazz and Tracks!

[jaydisc]

What make and model cars were Tracks and Jazz?

[MV75]

Tracks was a corvette, jazz was a porsche.

EDIT: Specifically corvette c3 and porsche 935 turbo.

[tinyJazz]

Deluxe Class
Maybe Generations, maybe HFTD
Gen1 Jazz - Gen1 form in both modes, including pop out speakers like in the cartoon.


FFFFSYES! ABOUT DAMN TIME! I'm going to buy at least five of these :B

I stayed up to read tfw's live coverage of this, and I thought Tracks was good news, until I read about this! Well, actually pretty much the whole panel was good news. Apparently the crowd went extra crazy for Grapple?

So um, does... does Jazz have stripes? :( blue and red or just blue? and on the wheel wells? Also door wings?


Man, why can't they release pictures (if there were any) to those who aren't able to attend Botcon?. :mad:


Usually us plebs get to see pictures after Hasbro's SDCC panel. I think it's their way of covering if something doesn't get the green light between then and now? oh! and making botcon attendees feel special and loved. :p

[FFN]

Tracks was a corvette, jazz was a porsche.

EDIT: Specifically corvette c3 and porsche 935 turbo. I think he's asking about the new toys.

[MV75]

I think he's asking about the new toys.

Well in that case, most likely nothing real, just something that looks like the g1 versions.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

And more fembot goodness...yippee!:)

[kup]

Some great news in there! Loving the Skullgrin news among others.

[Verno]

New BW huh. I'll believe it when I see it.

[kup]

New BW huh. I'll believe it when I see it.

Yeah, it hasn't been announced but since Dinobot won the Hall of fame thing then the chances have certainly increased. The next logical choice for a toy would be Rhinox or Rattrap so I am hopeful but not fully convinced that it will happen.

[Verno]

Yeh, not with all the diehard G1 fans currently jizzing in their pants about 'another' line of homage figures :p

[Hursticon]

Yeh, not with all the diehard G1 fans currently jizzing in their pants about 'another' line of homage figures :p

Even though I am one of those G1 fans Verno :p, I would really love to see an MP Dinobot :D, as unlikely as it is.

[Verno]

Even though I am one of those G1 fans Verno :p, I would really love to see an MP Dinobot :D, as unlikely as it is.

Your signature says otherwise :p

[Hursticon]

Your signature says otherwise :p

You do make a good point Verno :p, I had been thinking about changing my Sig and Avatar. :D

[kup]

You do make a good point Verno :p, I had been thinking about changing my Sig and Avatar. :D

Pinky Demon! :D

[Hursticon]

Pinky Demon! :D

Your a fan I take it Kup? :D:D:D

[kaiden]

well if WFC is popular to make more toys of, i'd be interested in

-arcee
-jazz
-sideswipe
-air raid
-warpath
-omega supreme

-shockwave
-slipstream
-brawl
-trypticon

they would make fantastic toys and also a set of all the 'in-game' weapons.

i noticed optimus' rifle isnt even in the game, yet they dont even give him the energon axe. hopefully a leader class toy will remedy this.

[ComicGuy89]

Yeah, it hasn't been announced but since Dinobot won the Hall of fame thing then the chances have certainly increased. The next logical choice for a toy would be Rhinox or Rattrap so I am hopeful but not fully convinced that it will happen.

A Rattrap or Rhinox toy would be awesome; we haven't seen those two since Beast Machines, and their toys weren't really definitive versions of the characters.

[5FDP]

i noticed optimus' rifle isnt even in the game, yet they dont even give him the energon axe. hopefully a leader class toy will remedy this.

Unfortunately there won't be any leader class toys in the WFC line. Hasbro are sticking with deluxe class only :(

[GoktimusPrime]

That's fine with me. Deluxe Classes are usually better designed than your run of the mill gimmick-laden engineering-sacrificed Leader Class toys. I prefer a nice Deluxe over an ordinary Leader any day.

[FFN]

In the excitement, there's been some conflicting or unclear reports.

Generations is Deluxe only, so Legends class Prime, Starscream and Megatron are all in the Transformers 2010/HFTD line right?

And the same goes for Scout class Windcharger?

[1AZRAEL1]

In the excitement, there's been some conflicting or unclear reports.

Generations is Deluxe only, so Legends class Prime, Starscream and Megatron are all in the Transformers 2010/HFTD line right?

I too have been wondering about that. Maybe they will still continue to do other class sizes.

[griffin]

In the excitement, there's been some conflicting or unclear reports.

Generations is Deluxe only, so Legends class Prime, Starscream and Megatron are all in the Transformers 2010/HFTD line right?

And the same goes for Scout class Windcharger?

Yes, but Hasbro were saying some time ago that the main line was not just Movie characters - so I guess this is definite proof of that, and begs the question... what's the point of 'Generations' if the main line is gonna end up having other eras in it anyway?
I think they shouldn't have restricted Generations to one size class (probably necessary to not look like flooding of assortments to the retailers), because now there is no plausable reason for a separate deluxe line.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'd imagine the Generations name will just quietly drop from use after a few months is all.

[FFN]

Yes, but Hasbro were saying some time ago that the main line was not just Movie characters - so I guess this is definite proof of that, and begs the question... what's the point of 'Generations' if the main line is gonna end up having other eras in it anyway?
I think they shouldn't have restricted Generations to one size class (probably necessary to not look like flooding of assortments to the retailers), because now there is no plausable reason for a separate deluxe line. I think the Generations line exists because Hasbro wants the Generations toys (being G1/G2) to be distinct from the movie and neo-movie figures in the TF2010/HFTD line. As for why Generations doesn't have other size classes, I think it's because Hasbro will only do a handful of G1/G2-based figures in these other size classes, while Movie and neo-movie characters (like Breacher, Hubcap, Highbrow and Lugnut) will get the lion's share of these classes.

So far, we have three, maybe five G1-themed Legends (if you count Tracker Hound and Sandstorm), 1 G1 Scout (Windcharger) and 1 definite G1 Voyager (Grapple). Hardly enough to justify having these size classes in Generations as well.

[optimus1]

All great news :D

I'm mostly looking forward to the Generations figures but may be swayed into the new line with the look of Highbrow and Terradive :p

Legends G1 Megatron is a big surprise, I wonder if he will be a simplified version of the WST version (unlikely) or a new mold with G1 homages (more likely)?

I hope Jazz and Tracks will have 'vette Stingray and 935 homages

[gdmetro]

Hate to repeat what others have been saying, but DAMN.. im so excited.

Going to be buying alot.

Cant even wait for pics of Jazz... feed my current classics addiction.

[Robzy]

So.... when will the rest of us get to see pics? :o

[FFN]

SDCC possibly, which is in late July. Though it sounds like a lot of what people saw was control art, not prototypes, so it might be a long time.

[TheFallen]

So.... when will the rest of us get to see pics? :o

I just want more detailed explanations of what was seen. I haven't been able to find that information

[FFN]

Some of the wiki people talked to Aaron Archer about why Generations and Yellow Box existed as separate lines when (for all intents and purposes) they perform the same "everything from everywhere" function.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers_%282010_toyline%29#.22Archer.27s _clarification.22.3F

[SharkyMcShark]

Is Generations not specifically a homage line using Classics styling whereas the yellow box is like movie repaints or new movie style molds?

[FFN]

Considering G1 Legends class, G1 looking Scout Windcharger and Classics G1 looking Grapple is in there?

You'd have to read the response Archer gave them.

[SharkyMcShark]

So it's all a cunning plan then

[Bartrim]

So it's all a cunning plan then

Is it as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?:p

[SharkyMcShark]

Is it as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?:p

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